Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[UA 674]

What was that scene? Was it the time when Kaworu originally said something along the lines of, “it means I love you”? What was the original and replacement?

"I love you" - "I like you"

 

[Eyeshield]

I remember being like 14 years old and getting volunteered to work at my hometown small-town festival thingy. I ran a booth. It was lawn bowling for babies. I set up the pins. I handed the toddler the ball. They threw the ball. We all clapped.

I ran that thing for 10 hours straight. Sure sometimes I wasn't the most attentive at the front to attract people. Sometimes I didn't clap and smile as well as I should have. What do you want? I was 14 working alone in some booth at a small town festival. Mail that shit in. But I never needed help. I did it. I ran it on my own all goddamn day.

At the end of it all when we were cleaning up my mom gave me a warm Bud Light and I got to drink it with the adults and feel like I really did something important.

This is what I assume the volunteer anime con staff feel doing whatever stupid crap they do. You set up crap that anybody could do, nobody cares about it, and it basically runs itself but just needs a minder, which is you. At the end of the day you get some shitty prize and then feel like you did something special because you are young/stupid/autistic.

These are the people we are looking to to dish the dirt on Vic. Yeah, no.

I helped make deals to get food booths and stands to come to a school event once, but I wouldn't feel self-righteous enough to brigade someone like this.

 

[TardBows]

This is probably what she's bitching about, from ANN of course.
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Japanese Fans, Official Translator Weigh in on Netflix Evangelion English Subtitle Debate

ANN spoke directly with Dan Kanemitsu about the ongoing debate over Kaworu and Shinji's relationship and Netflix's translation

www.animenewsnetwork.com

Japanese Fans, Official Translator Weigh in on Netflix Evangelion Eng…

archived 30 Jun 2019 05:43:39 UTC

archive.fo

"I love you" - "I like you"

TLDR; Japanese language makes queers mad.

 

[AnOminous]

TLDR; Japanese language makes queers mad.

They should quit being white supremacists.

 

[UA 674]

TLDR; Japanese language makes queers mad.

In other words, "MUH GAY FANFICS!"

 

[Immaculate Ape]

I remember being like 14 years old and getting volunteered to work at my hometown small-town festival thingy. I ran a booth. It was lawn bowling for babies. I set up the pins. I handed the toddler the ball. They threw the ball. We all clapped.

I ran that thing for 10 hours straight. Sure sometimes I wasn't the most attentive at the front to attract people. Sometimes I didn't clap and smile as well as I should have. What do you want? I was 14 working alone in some booth at a small town festival. Mail that shit in. But I never needed help. I did it. I ran it on my own all goddamn day.

At the end of it all when we were cleaning up my mom gave me a warm Bud Light and I got to drink it with the adults and feel like I really did something important.

This is what I assume the volunteer anime con staff feel doing whatever stupid crap they do. You set up crap that anybody could do, nobody cares about it, and it basically runs itself but just needs a minder, which is you. At the end of the day you get some shitty prize and then feel like you did something special because you are young/stupid/autistic.

These are the people we are looking to to dish the dirt on Vic. Yeah, no.

Basically, yeah. Touching story too.

Moreless, volunteers at (most) conventions are only "required" to work a set number of hours. The rest of the time, they get to run around and enjoy the convention. A lot of times the tasks they do are pretty menial, but there are times that they get to do exceptionally cool things - like, they'll get tapped to deliver drinks or food to some of the biggest name guests - they get to cut right past the line and have interactions with them.

Not ALL the time, but I can say from experience that some guests notice the work the kids do and they will go out of their way to make it special for the ones they see do work.

Not every job is a glorious one, but at the end of the day - they get in to a convention for free. When a weekend pass costs upwards of 150-200$, and the amount of work is laughably easy, it's an experience that is what you make it.

Every once in a while you get these egos that volunteer just to get the free pass, and then EXPECT to be allowed to roam free and have this sense of entitlement that they are owed something when they literally did nothing.

It's incredibly infuriating as an organizer when you literally spend 9-11 months out of the year working convention related things (between working full time for a living), and you have people who spend literally 8 hours of an entire year barely doing any work expecting the world.

The one year I did Anime Expo as a vendor they required everyone but attendees to do a background check. And you had to foot the bill. You also had to complete a course on anti harassment and con safe spaces.

It was exceptional as fuck and everyone hated it. The con eventually paid for checks themselves.

Imagine a world of conventions that force all of their vendors and guests to pass a certification to be accepted... good lord, that'll be the end of fan conventions.

Considering most beyond the top echelon of conventions, vendors and artists seem to barely make enough for it to be worth their time, effort and wage. Charging them more on top of that is just seppuku

 

[Dr. Dingo DVM]

It's funny you say that. Due to events from our last event, our convention is ACTUALLY instituting a strong screening process, with references and are planning on getting some material put down on paper (like a handbook for volunteers) for how to handle situations that come up.

We're a relatively small convention but have been changing industry standards in the past few years, so we're hoping that it'll spark a trend. Other conventions in our area have been seeing very similar sperging as of late, it's like they're on a timer.

The one year I did Anime Expo as a vendor they required everyone but attendees to do a background check. And you had to foot the bill. You also had to complete a course on anti harassment and con safe spaces.

It was retarded as fuck and everyone hated it. The con eventually paid for checks themselves.

 

[wickedlilium]

I remember being like 14 years old and getting volunteered to work at my hometown small-town festival thingy. I ran a booth. It was lawn bowling for babies. I set up the pins. I handed the toddler the ball. They threw the ball. We all clapped.

I ran that thing for 10 hours straight. Sure sometimes I wasn't the most attentive at the front to attract people. Sometimes I didn't clap and smile as well as I should have. What do you want? I was 14 working alone in some booth at a small town festival. Mail that shit in. But I never needed help. I did it. I ran it on my own all goddamn day.

At the end of it all when we were cleaning up my mom gave me a warm Bud Light and I got to drink it with the adults and feel like I really did something important.

This is what I assume the volunteer anime con staff feel doing whatever stupid crap they do. You set up crap that anybody could do, nobody cares about it, and it basically runs itself but just needs a minder, which is you. At the end of the day you get some shitty prize and then feel like you did something special because you are young/stupid/autistic.

These are the people we are looking to to dish the dirt on Vic. Yeah, no.

My school back when I was in first grade did a fund raiser event, I lasted like 1hr (maybe less) of setting up before I was told I could do w/e I wanted, that shit was so booring, can't imagine manning a booth for 10hrs.
Back in grade 5 we had this small cafeteria with pre-made food that was designed for the students to get some hands on experience, all the grade 5 students had to participate (3 at a time), it was so mind numbing boring I honestly can't even remember anything about my experience besides being the guy garbing the food from the fridge. I also walked home (lived like 3 blocks away) so I only had to do it once.

Really hard to imagine those "volunteers" enjoying themselves if that's their career path.

 

[Hotfartz :)]

Really, with the pants he wears I doubt it. Frankly, in the beginning watching several videos of him I thought he was gay.

I used to see him as very effeminate, and always thought he had some liberal leanings before all this.

 

[Allanon]

No clue, but here's the thread.
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https://twitter.com/jessiepridemore/status/1144547195749715971

Jessie Pridemore @ AX on Twitter: "So the guy that translated the new…

archived 28 Jun 2019 15:37:38 UTC

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So basically, he made some erotic(probably) doujins about a popular waifu game franchise that happens to be set in WW2. She's an idiot, as usual, and he probably made bank off of people wanting to buy it. Expecting animu nerds to be appalled by loli waifus is expecting disappointment.

This is probably what she's bitching about, from ANN of course.
View attachment 821375

Japanese Fans, Official Translator Weigh in on Netflix Evangelion English Subtitle Debate

ANN spoke directly with Dan Kanemitsu about the ongoing debate over Kaworu and Shinji's relationship and Netflix's translation

www.animenewsnetwork.com

Japanese Fans, Official Translator Weigh in on Netflix Evangelion Eng…

archived 30 Jun 2019 05:43:39 UTC

archive.fo

Wasn't it one-sided anyway? Who cares? The translator himself said he wanted to leave it open because just saying love outright didn't make people think enough, or something like that. 99.99% of the people watching an old anime about mechas probably don't care whatsoever about the 'queer representation' in it.

 

[UA 674]

So basically, he made some erotic(probably) doujins about a popular waifu game franchise that happens to be set in WW2. She's an idiot, as usual, and he probably made bank off of people wanting to buy it. Expecting animu nerds to be appalled by loli waifus is expecting disappointment.



Wasn't it one-sided anyway? Who cares? The translator himself said he wanted to leave it open because just saying love outright didn't make people think enough, or something like that. 99.99% of the people watching an old anime about mechas probably don't care whatsoever about the 'queer representation' in it.

Fun fact: The artwork for Valkyria Chronicles was done by a known doujin artist known as Raita Honjou and I didn't hear too much complaining back then or now, despite Sega having him onboard.

So I don't particularly see why the other shit with Strike Witches or whatever should be any different, Netflix doesn't give a shit about that stuff (at least, for now) and they just want to focus on getting the project done. He's not making anyone fuck each other.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

So he has a degree in communications and he is a call center SME?

Pretty common. I know several people with Communication degrees, even Masters Degrees, and they ended up doing shit work like that. The main thing a communications degree prepares you for is teaching communications.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

No clue, but here's the thread.
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https://twitter.com/jessiepridemore/status/1144547195749715971

Jessie Pridemore @ AX on Twitter: "So the guy that translated the new…

archived 28 Jun 2019 15:37:38 UTC

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"fire the pedo and retranslate"

She isn't even trying.

Does she want the alleged pedo to pay them back, too?

 

[Eyeshield]

Fun fact: The artwork for Valkyria Chronicles was done by a known doujin artist known as Raita Honjou and I didn't hear too much complaining back then or now, despite Sega having him onboard.

So I don't particularly see why the other shit with Strike Witches or whatever should be any different, Netflix doesn't give a shit about that stuff (at least, for now) and they just want to focus on getting the project done. He's not making anyone fuck each other.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 IIRC was also done by a doujin artist called saitom. In both cases, the artists were mostly restrained... Well, less so for saitom.

They both did work for Fate Grand Order. And they REALLY went wild there.

Raita (One Example) https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Minamoto_no_Raikō

Saitom: https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Bradamante#Skill_Reinforcement

 

[ShortRound]

Oh god, that hilariously condescending title "Subject Matter Expert"

Coming from the Medical/Police/Military side a SME is someone who knows their shit, Has been there done that got the shirt and is now here to teach you how to survive it

 

[Immaculate Ape]

Coming from the Medical/Police/Military side a SME is someone who knows their shit, Has been there done that got the shirt and is now here to teach you how to survive it

It's sadly a term that has been bastardized, raped, thrown in an alley and picked up by the call center industry - dusted off and given to people who pass new hire probation

 

[UA 674]

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 IIRC was also done by a doujin artist called saitom. In both cases, the artists were mostly restrained... Well, less so for saitom.

They both did work for Fate Grand Order. And they REALLY went wild there.

Raita (One Example) https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Minamoto_no_Raikō

Saitom: https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Bradamante#Skill_Reinforcement

Oh I didn't know that, that's pretty cool. I still love how Raita draws women, especially Selvaria lol.

Spoiler: Best Army Waifu

 

[ShortRound]

It's sadly a term that has been bastardized, raped, thrown in an alley and picked up by the call center industry - dusted off and given to people who pass new hire probation

So hes like the Shane of SME's

 

[Hotfartz :)]

If my experience with these people can answer any of this:

1. They're afraid to speak up because they don't want to be blacklisted from the community. Because they enjoy it so much, it's easier for them to just let the problem keep going rather than speaking up and making it an issue or seeking a resolution.

That makes them JUST as bad as the action itself, because they're enabling it - when the action itself may be unintentional, the ignorance of the action IS intentional.

2. They won't quit, because free stuff. Not until it becomes such a detriment that they can't sleep at night (or until they lose attention from their communities) is it a problem. This usually happens once the baby-fat gets replaced with bad metabolism and they stop getting requests for swimsuit photo shoots.

3. This is a popular one, they can pretend the problem didn't exist until it's under someone else's control. THEN they can claim it is worse for the new staff to have NOT fixed the old staff's issue, rather than owning the issue to begin with. It's some weird mental gymnastic that once you hand off a broken toy to someone else, claim it's their fault it's still broken.

You're on fire tonight.

 

[UA 674]

You're on fire tonight.

Just like my eyes everytime your pfp shows up.