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Fmr. Antifa member reacts to group's attack on conservative writer Andy Ngo (VIDEO)

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Here's the article / video Adams was referencing.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

The problem with this take, of course, is that Antifa might enjoy fighting, they might be motivated mostly because they like fighting, but it's not a consensual fight. They're not showing up at an agreed upon place and time and attacking the proud boys or what have you. They're picking targets that the radical left, backed up by the mainstream left, will allow them to assault under the cover of calling them bad names.

It's mob mentality, by people that are complete failures otherwise; it doesn't matter what competitive venue you pick, they're not winners, and never have been, because their parents didn't teach them that failure is a reason to improve, and they were constantly bubble-wrapped against any form of hardship. They're absolutely in this under the cover of "punch nazis" to try and prove to the world that they aren't actually failures.

 

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HE LIED! Portland Police Release Statement - Claim Mayor Wheeler Gave Police Stand Down Order During Violent Protests

On Saturday afternoon Quillette gay Asian journalist Andy Ngo was beaten and robbed by several Antifa attackers at a Portland protest march. Ngo was later hospitalized Saturday night with a brain bleed following the brutal Antifa attack as he covered dueling left-right demonstrations in...

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HE LIED! Portland Police Release Statement - Claim Mayor Wheeler Gave…

archived 2 Jul 2019 15:20:55 UTC

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The Police just tossed the Mayor under the bus.

Turns out letting Domestic Terrorists throw acid on people and beat journalists to near death in the streets isn't acceptable. Well... eventually it isn't.

 

[Garm]

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Stay classy Independent.

Also, just take a look at this fucking dude.

This is the embodiment of "DERP!"

 

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HE LIED! Portland Police Release Statement - Claim Mayor Wheeler Gave Police Stand Down Order During Violent Protests

On Saturday afternoon Quillette gay Asian journalist Andy Ngo was beaten and robbed by several Antifa attackers at a Portland protest march. Ngo was later hospitalized Saturday night with a brain bleed following the brutal Antifa attack as he covered dueling left-right demonstrations in...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

HE LIED! Portland Police Release Statement - Claim Mayor Wheeler Gave…

archived 2 Jul 2019 15:20:55 UTC

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The Police just tossed the Mayor under the bus.

Turns out letting Domestic Terrorists throw acid on people and beat journalists to near death in the streets isn't acceptable. Well... eventually it isn't.

And that's going to be some serious shit right there. I expect Ngo's attorney is cracking her knuckles, and giggling a lot.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

His take is that any free speech protesters or proud boys or what have you are also just really fight clubs too.

Any free speech protesters aren't, but I'm not sure that's a terribly inaccurate moniker for the Proud Boys

 

[Vitoze]

Any free speech protesters aren't, but I'm not sure that's a terribly inaccurate moniker for the Proud Boys

I wouldn't say fight clubs, but from what I've heard second and third hand about the NYC chapter its a multicultural but supermajority white drinking/party group that holds some fairly racialist views considering their Alt-Lite allegiances.

Mike Enoch of TRS will talk about it occasionally, but I can't dig a source out easily.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

I like how pretty much every pro-Antifa post is "what are we supposed to do? NOT impulsively enact violence on people we disagree with?" and then if they get challenged on that it devolves to "UM it's okay because fascists like YOU want to genocide us".

You'd think if gun toting mobs wanted to genocide you, throwing milkshakes at them, punching them, and insulting them might not be an outstanding move

This. We can talk about the ethicality of "punching Nazis" and how that quickly degrades civil discussion for everyone, but I think something that everyone can appreciate is the question of whether the "Nazi" you decided to roundhouse kick cuck style has a gun, which at that point you have legally enabled them to use on you

I can say, without a doubt, that even the most deluded ones among them are not ready to square up against someone with a gun. Maybe they should have listened in church, and they would have considered the line "he who kills by the sword dies by the sword".

 

[GethN7]

Maybe they should have listened in church, and they would have considered the line "he who kills by the sword dies by the sword".

And that's something these criminal scum don't understand.

What they keep saying is they want an actual war, and they think they are soldiers.

If they actually get their wish, they will quickly learn war is terrible, there is no refining it, and to further quote General Sherman, they WILL deserve all the curses and maledictions that can be meted out against them.

All they are is cowardly street thugs too chickenshit to operate where they have no cover from corrupt officials turning a blind eye, but if they ever get any braver, their blood will run in the streets, because their delusions of being soldiers and that their cause is glorious is a crock.

On some level, they know this, hence the cowardice, but if they aren't stopped before they get bolder, this will turn into an actual war where ANTIFA will be slaughtered.

Ideally, I love to see them incarcerated and punished by the legal system for mere crime before it gets to the point they need to be crushed for public insurrection because, despite their delusions, they DON'T want to be treated like soldiers, they don't have the stomach for it and they know it, even if they won't admit it.

 

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This. We can talk about the ethicality of "punching Nazis" and how that quickly degrades civil discussion for everyone, but I think something that everyone can appreciate is the question of whether the "Nazi" you decided to roundhouse kick cuck style has a gun, which at that point you have legally enabled them to use on you

Didn't some 4channers get put away for using a gun in self defense on some BLM thugs that assaulted them for the crime of being white (or asian, which is close enough for BLM)? I seem to remember hearing something about that.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Ideally, I love to see them incarcerated and punished by the legal system for mere crime before it gets to the point they need to be crushed for public insurrection because, despite their delusions, they DON'T want to be treated like soldiers, they don't have the stomach for it and they know it, even if they won't admit it.

We need another Kent State on the streets of Portland. They've been watching too many movies where they think that if you open fire on a mob maybe four or five people in the front ranks get hurt, so they have no fear of the cops opening up or the National Guard opening fire on them.

It's the only way these dipshits are going to learn.

"Give them a wiff of the grape."

 

[Memento Malum]

We need another Kent State on the streets of Portland. They've been watching too many movies where they think that if you open fire on a mob maybe four or five people in the front ranks get hurt, so they have no fear of the cops opening up or the National Guard opening fire on them.

It's the only way these dipshits are going to learn.

"Give them a wiff of the grape."

Counterpoint: This is how you get martyrs. Dead Antifa become heroes of the (idiot) revolution, and inspire more dolts to follow in their exceptional footsteps.

Rather, arrest them, haul them into court, and sentence them to prison where the actual downtrodden can help them understand what Marx was on about. Also, don't let any of them have twitter while they are incarcerated; that is a fate worse than death to virtue-signalling Marxist LARPers.

Edit: This is of course assuming that the authorities want to solve the problem and not enable the pack of nutcases further. Optimistic, I know.

 

[GethN7]

Counterpoint: This is how you get martyrs. Dead Antifa become heroes of the (idiot) revolution, and inspire more dolts to follow in their exceptional footsteps.

Rather, arrest them, haul them into court, and sentence them to prison where the actual downtrodden can help them understand what Marx was on about. Also, don't let any of them have twitter while they are incarcerated; that is a fate worse than death to virtue-signalling Marxist LARPers.

Edit: This is of course assuming that the authorities want to solve the problem and not enable the pack of nutcases further. Optimistic, I know.

Amen.

ANTIFA are little more than terrorists. If you grant them the recognition of political importance they seek, they have won.

They are criminals and should be regarded as such. Their rhetoric is little more than an excuse for crime, their goal is nothing more than the dissolution of society's laws, and they do not deserve the honors conferred upon uniformed combatants, because if they gain that, you give their terror legitimacy.

The only reason they exist is they are encouraged by those who pervert the normal course of justice and they shield themselves in the false disguise of liberators from oppression, but they already have the rights they claim to seek, and then they want to deny said rights to others they disagree with, even if their methods will lead to bloodshed.

Their true enablers are those who would pervert the pillars of society to turn a blind eye to their crimes. Stop them, and this terror group will no longer have a shield and become little more than a loose band of thieves and vandals, and that's the only regard they deserve.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

We need another Kent State on the streets of Portland. They've been watching too many movies where they think that if you open fire on a mob maybe four or five people in the front ranks get hurt, so they have no fear of the cops opening up or the National Guard opening fire on them.

It's the only way these dipshits are going to learn.

"Give them a wiff of the grape."

Pls no, every time a Portland cop discharges a firearm, nay, even a beanbag gun, no matter how justified, the little twit activists throw a full on toddler tantrum in the streets and whatever brute got ventilated becomes their new hero. I mean the protest that was mentioned a couple times in this thread, from last year, was about a gang banger who was shot while in the process of trying to kill other gang bangers. But still, the cops must have shot the black man to stop him from killing other black men only because they rayciss. They threw a complete shitfit about the cops taking down a psychotic man who was trying to kill people waiting in a mental health clinic--obviously that one happened because the police hate the mentally ill! And the suburban NPR listeners eat this crap up because they live a life completely insulated from the bullshit that goes on out on the street.

 

[GinStar]

This. We can talk about the ethicality of "punching Nazis" and how that quickly degrades civil discussion for everyone, but I think something that everyone can appreciate is the question of whether the "Nazi" you decided to roundhouse kick cuck style has a gun, which at that point you have legally enabled them to use on you

I can say, without a doubt, that even the most deluded ones among them are not ready to square up against someone with a gun. Maybe they should have listened in church, and they would have considered the line "he who kills by the sword dies by the sword".

Sure, but do you actually believe any nazis are being punched here? Anyone who might actually get punched is an easy target, some 160 pound scrawny white guy who opened his mouth a bit too right of the playing field and might get decked by an angry moron. No one's going to go against anyone who looks like they might fight back. It's all empty threats and wishful thinking/fantasies which is what 90% of these fuckers are made of.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Pls no, every time a Portland cop discharges a firearm, nay, even a beanbag gun, no matter how justified, the little twit activists throw a full on toddler tantrum in the streets and whatever brute got ventilated becomes their new hero. I mean the protest that was mentioned a couple times in this thread, from last year, was about a gang banger who was shot while in the process of trying to kill other gang bangers. But still, the cops must have shot the black man to stop him from killing other black men only because they rayciss. They threw a complete shitfit about the cops taking down a psychotic man who was trying to kill people waiting in a mental health clinic--obviously that one happened because the police hate the mentally ill! And the suburban NPR listeners eat this crap up because they live a life completely insulated from the bullshit that goes on out on the street.

True, true. I forgot that Portland is even more pozzed than memory wants to admit.

 

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Counterpoint: This is how you get martyrs. Dead Antifa become heroes of the (idiot) revolution, and inspire more dolts to follow in their exceptional footsteps.

Rather, arrest them, haul them into court, and sentence them to prison where the actual downtrodden can help them understand what Marx was on about. Also, don't let any of them have twitter while they are incarcerated; that is a fate worse than death to virtue-signalling Marxist LARPers.

Edit: This is of course assuming that the authorities want to solve the problem and not enable the pack of nutcases further. Optimistic, I know.

The problem is... these people have some Marxist Lawyer's guild protecting them. The Bike Lock Basher of Berkeley tried to kill 7 people on camera. He got off scott free despite there being video evidence of it.

What is going to change this is civil rights lawsuits. I am not a Civil Rights lawyer, but from what I understand if you're being attacked by say, the KKK, and the local police don't do anything because they -- heh -- don't wanna get involved in "no Negro shit," then it turns out that's them violating your civil rights, and they're liable.

In other words, Andy Ngo needs to sue the fuck out of The Mayor of Portland, the Police Department of Portland, Portland itself, and Oregon itself, for violating his civil rights. Because "Stand Down" orders should be illegal.

 

[Kornula]

Andy's lawyer said just that today; she is going to sue as many people in Portland as possible!

 

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Man, the Antifa apologists are on top of this Cement Milkshake thing. I think they realized just how bad it is.

"It wasn't Cement, it was VEGAN! And STUPID DUM DUM NAZIS don't even know what Kale tastes like!"

"The police have NO EVIDENCE that the milkshakes were filled with Cement! Or at least they haven't spurted out all of said evidence over social media so we can use that information to coverup what we did. Therefore, it's a HOAX!"

etc etc.

 

[Marissa Moira]

I wonder how much involvement bullshit organizations like Scientology and other fringe cults have with Antifa?