Extra Credits - leftie gaming channel that had two of its members accused of "misconduct" in only 2 months

[KanaPostsonKiwi]

Agreed, at least channels like Kurzgesagt make an effort to have their scripts proof-read by experts (and credit them). Extra Credits have delusions of being education tools for children at school but don't want to put the work in to make them even YT-credible, let alone real life-credible.

You know i actually wonder how many school teachers and profs actually use them now that you mention it. I hope that the number is close to zero because a lot of teachers are very overworked (at least here) and have little time to doublecheck. I have done a few rounds in the education system as a paid specialist for coursework on game dev for instance, and in some schools the state of at least the IT teachers was worrisome.
I'm reminded going over the existing course material that was no more than 6 months old in around 2016 that spoke of using Unity 3 and techniques of Unity 3. By this point 5 was around the middle of its life cycle. When i queried the teacher, they showed me some ancient tome from 2012 that supposedly had all about Unity development. I'm sure that book had "never obsolete" sticker on it somewhere too. This was pretty emblematic of a larger scale issue, not just one teacher. I ended up visiting a few schools and the same can be said for quite a few people i knew from IGDA meetings, all of which had a similar impression.

 

[Kheapathic]

You know i actually wonder how many school teachers and profs actually use them now that you mention it. I hope that the number is close to zero because a lot of teachers are very overworked (at least here) and have little time to doublecheck. I have done a few rounds in the education system as a paid specialist for coursework on game dev for instance, and in some schools the state of at least the IT teachers was worrisome.
I'm reminded going over the existing course material that was no more than 6 months old in around 2016 that spoke of using Unity 3 and techniques of Unity 3. By this point 5 was around the middle of its life cycle. When i queried the teacher, they showed me some ancient tome from 2012 that supposedly had all about Unity development. I'm sure that book had "never obsolete" sticker on it somewhere too. This was pretty emblematic of a larger scale issue, not just one teacher. I ended up visiting a few schools and the same can be said for quite a few people i knew from IGDA meetings, all of which had a similar impression.

Not as a student, but there was an issue with a college in my area. Professor is teaching a not-beginner game development class, and near the end for the final project, students come and ask for clarification and such. Come to find out, the students never learned how to make assets in other programs. They had no training on anything, but were in a class about how to assemble everything and make it work. Professor goes to the Dean and it took a long discussion to explain to the Dean that the students aren't learning anything that should be a requirement for that level of a class. Not sure how it ended though.

 

[KanaPostsonKiwi]

Not as a student, but there was an issue with a college in my area. Professor is teaching a not-beginner game development class, and near the end for the final project, students come and ask for clarification and such. Come to find out, the students never learned how to make assets in other programs. They had no training on anything, but were in a class about how to assemble everything and make it work. Professor goes to the Dean and it took a long discussion to explain to the Dean that the students aren't learning anything that should be a requirement for that level of a class. Not sure how it ended though.

I've seen quite a bit of this kind of ass-backwards learning in the schools. We have "programming studies" from grade 3 onward, but when pressed even the better performing students of grade 7 and 8 can't simply explain what are bool, int, float and double, nor do they know what a method is or what a method does. I guess this technically is a good thing because of how competitive the programming world already is and how you have to excel to be worth anything, but what on earth are they teaching for so many years?

 

[Zirkus]

What a bunch of pansies

 

[Zaragoza]

That guy is a fucking retard, people like to play WW2 games because of the Nazis.

 

[Floop]

What a bunch of pansies

It’s just a vidya game lol.

 

[AsbestosFlaygon]

What a bunch of pansies

Wow, I don't think I've ever so quickly hated a video, what do you mean that no one should ever play as a Nazi? Anyone that knows even the slightest amount on the Nazi's knows of all the cool shit you can use in a game with them in it. Why is it so hard for these SJW twats to understand that you don't actually support the Nazi's just because you want fly weird Nazi fighter jets.

 

[Vitoze]

Wow, I don't think I've ever so quickly hated a video, what do you mean that no one should ever play as a Nazi? Anyone that knows even the slightest amount on the Nazi's knows of all the cool shit you can use in a game with them in it. Why is it so hard for these SJW twats to understand that you don't actually support the Nazi's just because you want fly weird Nazi fighter jets.

I own close to 300 1/100 hand painted scale miniature nazis, they are pretty cool. Even their tanks looked interesting and weird in comparison to the allies. People love nazi aesthetics, so much its even a fetish.

 

[Floop]

Accurate portrayal of nazi level censorship extra credits is trying to push.

 

[Archeopthryx]

Well they are failed game developers. No wonder they failed.

 

[Jaimas]

What a bunch of pansies

....When you're parroting talking points from Lyndon fucking Larouche, that's often a good point to stop a moment and figure out where the fuck you may have gone wrong.

 

[The Last Stand]

Around the 2:30 mark, that same video mentions that "spending 100 hours as a Nazi makes you celebrate them or make fun of them." Maybe they're happy they're playing a game they like or fooling around with their friends. That logic really made me HUH?!

 

[Burning Fanatic]

What a bunch of pansies

I like how everything's always so black-and-white with these guys.
Never mind all the historical complexity of WWII, with many young men forced to be a part of the war machine. It will forever always come back to "muh-nazis" being the worst people to ever exist, and playing as them in a video game will forever make you one of them.
And for bonus points, include how they disliked LGBTQ+ people. Cause of course, we all know how bigoted those Nazis were to our trans-folks.

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Around the 2:30 mark, that same video mentions that "spending 100 hours as a Nazi makes you celebrate them or make fun of them." Maybe they're happy they're playing a game they like or fooling around with their friends. That logic really made me HUH?!

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Why the Hell do these same people always hate it when you make fun of the Nazis? The Nazis literally hated it when you did that. It always blows my mind how backwards this logic is.

 

[FitBitch]

"If you're exposed to Nazi symbols you don't have a strong reaction to them anymore, then you go on a website full of Nazis you might not be immediately alarmed and hear what they have to say, THEN you might become a Nazi!"

Extra Credit literally thinks their audience is too stupid to have situational awareness.

 

[Lemmingwise]

What a bunch of pansies

Honestly the only time a multiplayer shooter made me scratch my head and think; this is kinda weird from a propaganda standpoint, was when I played america's army and both sides see themselves as americans and the other side as terrorists. Like you could stand in front of someone of the opposing team, and you both see the other as a terrorist and yourself as an american soldier.

I find the game always telling me I'm on the right side somehow much more orwellian than a game where I can be put into the shoes of either a bad guy or a good guy.

 

[Marco Fucko]

DL'd it just in case they feel like walking it back.

 

[Vitoze]

Honestly the only time a multiplayer shooter made me scratch my head and think; this is kinda weird from a propaganda standpoint, was when I played america's army and both sides see themselves as americans and the other side as terrorists. Like you could stand in front of someone of the opposing team, and you both see the other as a terrorist and yourself as an american soldier.

I find the game always telling me I'm on the right side somehow much more orwellian than a game where I can be put into the shoes of either a bad guy or a good guy.

There is a reason I'd much rather play TF2 than I would any of the new wolfenstein games. And its not because TF is free (lord knows I've poured money into that game).

 

[Unog]

... are these not the exact same kind of people who would've been the first to mock Jack Thompson for his retarded take on violence in videogames? What the fuck.

 

[kadoink]

There is a reason I'd much rather play TF2 than I would any of the new wolfenstein games. And its not because TF is free (lord knows I've poured money into that game).

Just think, you have a whole closet full of hats that you wont play with anymore now.

 

[A Logging Company]

What a bunch of pansies

I used to watch extra credits years ago. This was back when I was much more into video games and didn't know much about the inside baseball of game development or the gaming industry. I stopped watching because after awhile I began to find the format condescending (cutsey cartoons with a tone of someone talking down to a child), and they had the tendency to state opinions as objective facts, which annoyed the hell out of me, especially with the faux-educational vibe they were trying so hard to hit.

This Nazi video is the first one of their videos I've watched in years. How they got more condecending while becoming more dumbed down is beyond me. I'd ask what happened to their old voice actor, but I'll just read though the thread for that.