Extra Credits - leftie gaming channel that had two of its members accused of "misconduct" in only 2 months

You know maybe we should ask some Estonians what they feel about WW2. Or some Ukranian Banderists. You see a lot of appeals to a prioristic assumption of heer soldats = bad that just isn't as present in other areas of the world. Parts of the Ukrainian population were very happy when the Grenadiers rolled in and broke the bars on their churches. Estonians chose to throw in with the Germans to attempt to maintain their independence. The grey jackbooted yahtzees were people who often either had voted for the current german regime or whose families had. The iron cross and the stahlhelm may have different meanings in different regions beyond historical atrocities that have been elevated to religious levels of importance. Just a thought.

I also find the "if your WW2 game isn't 100% realistic down to every pebble in the bocage, it isn't accurate at all therefore scrub all the friendship windmills" line of thinking kind of bizarre. Like bruh, have you read any period memiors? Nobody remembers exact stuff from firefights and some notable people who get cited a lot straight up made stuff up.
 
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Archeopthryx said:
Well they are failed game developers. No wonder they failed.
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Yup, especially if you look at their background.

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Out of the loop here. When did the narration do away with the stupid pitch change, and is this a different guy narrating?
 
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"If you're exposed to Nazi symbols you don't have a strong reaction to them anymore, then you go on a website full of Nazis you might not be immediately alarmed and hear what they have to say, THEN you might become a Nazi!"

Extra Credit literally thinks their audience is too stupid to have situational awareness.
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One doesn't need a strong reaction to a Nazi symbol in a game to be against Nazis but I wouldn't be surprised if Extra Credit lacked that awareness.
 
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It feels like every time you call out people like this you always have white knights who say stuff like “we’re not saying it causes people to be fascist it just causes people to develop fascist attitudes,” And bring up “much birth of a nation” as an example of media influencing people as if that film was solely responsible for causing the Klan to have a resurgence.

Case in point this asshat
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“I don’t have proof of a connection but their is one”
 
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Trying to scrub Nazis from existence and dismiss them all as "objectively evil demons who just hate for the sake of hate" is how you get more Nazis.

By dismissing these ideas as "just evil" you never actually give any hard reasoning against them. You need to point by point explain the reason why these ideologies are bad.

You also have to humanize the Nazis. Why do they think this way? What attracted them to that way of thought? Why do some people still support it despite such public disapproval? That way you can get into their heads and better counter their arguments. If you just say "Nazis are evil, just beat the shit out of them in the streets!" it makes you seem like a crazy person, and the Nazis can use that as ammo to show potential recruits how insane the other side is.

I also don't see how the argument that playing as a Nazi is bad because the Nazis did awful things is different than arguing that playing GTA is bad because criminals do awful things.
 
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Manly-Chicken said:
Trying to scrub Nazis from existence and dismiss them all as "objectively evil demons who just hate for the sake of hate" is how you get more Nazis.

By dismissing these ideas as "just evil" you never actually give any hard reasoning against them. You need to point by point explain the reason why these ideologies are bad.

You also have to humanize the Nazis. Why do they think this way? What attracted them to that way of thought? Why do some people still support it despite such public disapproval? That way you can get into their heads and better counter their arguments. If you just say "Nazis are evil, just beat the shit out of them in the streets!" it makes you seem like a crazy person, and the Nazis can use that as ammo to show potential recruits how insane the other side is.

I also don't see how the argument that playing as a Nazi is bad because the Nazis did awful things is different than arguing that playing GTA is bad because criminals do awful things.
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The difference is that they genuinely think 60% of the people they hate online are Nazis.
 
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Extra Credits "Stop humanizing Nazis!"
Also Extra Credits "Tune in to our Extra History episodes on the Mongols and Ottoman Empire where we kiss the asses of genocidal warlords but it's okay because their brown and they were kinda, sorta, tolerant for the time if you squint."
 
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Pablo Escobar said:
Out of the loop here. When did the narration do away with the stupid pitch change, and is this a different guy narrating?
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We don't know. Or at least nobody did last time I asked. However, it seemed to be timed around the time James was accused of harassing some coworker. It might hint he wanted to distance himself from James.

Which is a shame as I really like Dan. He has a channel for animations now and seems to be also keeping a distance from EC (despite being its creator).
 
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It's pretty horrifying the direction lefties like these want to take historical art and media. I hate the be the faggot who references 1984, but eventually WW2 discourse is literally just going to become the Two Minutes of Hate, where kids will be taught to hate the Nazis because... they were evil and don't question it. There is so much nuance to history, especially something as massive as WW2, simply boiling it down to Good vs Evil is so fucking childish and disrespectful. As someone who loves history and revels in it, this idea of making every possible reconstruction of historical events as simple as black and white is a terrifying notion.

This also isn't anything new, not by a long shot. Leftwing frauds art critics have been doing this for the last few decades, too. One of my all-time favorite historical films, Gettysburg (1993), was attacked by many critics for being "Confederate propaganda." In reality, all the film did was showcase the events as civilly and openly as possible. Hell, it openly discussed slavery and racism, showcasing how these issues were at the forefront for soldiers in the Union but not for the Confederates, because that was what actually fucking happened. A lot of these critics literally hated the fact that the film didn't pick a side or create a narrative. Doesn't that sound familiar?

I've already seen this happen to games, too. Games journalists are literally pissing themselves over games that don't want to pander to one political ideology (their's). Ironically, these are the same fags who constantly praise games that tackle tougher themes and ideas. Do they not realize that by removing the ability to be nuanced, they are essentially taking away these deep discussions?

God this stupid video made my brain hurt.
 
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"players should have to wait longer to play as Nazi forces to deter them from picking them"
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I'm tired...


InspMagnum said:
God this stupid video made my brain hurt.
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Them: "Players need to know that the Nazis are evil"

Me: "So we should let them do evil stuff like orchestrate the holocaust in a game?"

... The politically correct brain is an enigma. Paradox bans stuff like the holocaust from their game to stop people from glorifying the Nazis and in the process of doing so they whitewash history.

Imagine if Paradox let players orchestrate the holocaust via build camps. You know that James would be seeing red.
 
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>"Trolling"

Pro tip for you, kids, any online personality who unironically says that they have swarms of "trolls" and "haters" who constantly attack them are, 9 times out of 10, terrible fucking content producers. These out-of-touch online personalities legitimately believe that receiving hate and "trolls" on this level is absolutely normal and in no way related to the type of content that they produce. I remember hearing people from Buzzfeed talking like this, too.

"Oh, we just receive hate on a daily basis, but so does everyone"

Yeah, back in 2005. Sure, good quality content creators get their share of haters and people who disagree with them, but 1) it's usually relegated to very controversial topics and 2) most people will just ignore them or move on, only a small percentage of these people stick around to poke fun at them. But to have an audience this massive and this united in how much they hate your content, it isn't normal. This is why the only people who complain about trolls, outside of some political-based channels, are almost all clickbait authors, soulless internet "media" companies, games journalists, or just lolcows.
 
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I honestly think they are delusional if they think they are fighting Nazis in 2019. The nazis were beaten when WW2 ended.

I mean I know neo-nazis exist, but they are talking about historical nazis as portrayed in videogames as if they were still a major political power and Hitler was planning on invading the U.K. tomorrow.

I might agree with them if their point was "don't normalize racism" and the game was unironically promoting racial segregation, but this is just laughable.
 
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