Jeffrey Epstein Arrested For Sex Trafficking of Minors

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Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was arrested for allegedly sex trafficking dozens of minors in New York and Florida between 2002 and 2005, and will appear in court in New York on Monday, according to three law enforcement sources. The arrest, by the FBI-NYPD Crimes Against Children Task Force, comes about 12 years after the 66-year-old financier essentially got a slap on the wrist for allegedly molesting dozens of underage girls in Florida.

For more than a decade, Epstein’s alleged abuse of minors has been the subject of lawsuits brought by victims, investigations by local and federal authorities, and exposés in the press. But despite the attention cast on his alleged sex crimes, the hedge-funder has managed to avoid any meaningful jail time, let alone federal charges.

The new indictment—which, according to two sources, will be unsealed Monday in Manhattan federal court—will reportedly allege that Epstein sexually exploited dozens of underage girls in a now-familiar scheme: paying them cash for "massages" and then molesting or sexually abusing them in his Upper East Side mansion or his palatial residence in Palm Beach. Epstein will be charged with one count of sex trafficking of minors and one count of conspiracy to engage in sex trafficking of minors—which could put him away for a maximum of 45 years. The case is being handled by the Public Corruption Unit of the Southern District of New York, with assistance from the district's human-trafficking officials and the FBI.

Several of the billionaire's employees and associates allegedly recruited the girls for Epstein's abuse, and some victims eventually became recruiters themselves, according to law enforcement. The girls were as young as 14, and Epstein knew they were underage, according to details of the arrest and indictment shared by two officials.


Epstein's attorney Martin Weinberg declined to comment when reached by The Daily Beast on Saturday night. The SDNY also declined to comment.

“It’s been a long time coming—it’s been too long coming,” said attorney David Boies, who represents Epstein accusers Virginia Roberts Giuffre and Sarah Ransome. “It is an important step towards getting justice for the many victims of Mr. Epstein’s sex trafficking enterprise.

“We hope that prosecutors will not stop with Mr. Epstein because there were many other people who participated with him and made the sex trafficking possible," he told The Daily Beast.

In an era where #MeToo has toppled powerful men, Epstein’s name was largely absent from the national conversation, until the Miami Herald published a three-part series on how his wealth, power and influence shielded him from federal prosecution. For years, The Daily Beast has reported on Epstein’s alleged abuse, and his easy jail sentence and soft treatment by the U.S. Attorney’s Office, which ultimately scrapped a 53-page indictment against Epstein. An earlier version of Epstein’s plea deal included a 10-year federal sentence—before his star-studded lawyers threatened to go to trial in a case prosecutors feared was unwinnable, in part because Epstein’s team dredged up dirt on the victims, including social media posts indicating drug use.

Meanwhile, the financier flitted among his homes in Palm Beach, New York City, and the Virgin Islands, as well as his secluded Zorro Ranch in Stanley, New Mexico, transporting young women on his private jet to facilitate the sexual abuse that’s gone unchecked by authorities, his alleged victims say.

In an announcement planned for Monday the FBI is expected to provide a number for other victims to contact the SDNY.

As early as 2003, Vicky Ward’s Vanity Fair profile cracked into Epstein’s enigmatic facade and, as Ward noted, revealed “he was definitely not what he claimed to be.” Back then, allegations of sexual abuse leveled by one accuser, Maria Farmer, and her family were excised from Ward’s piece after Epstein pressured the magazine.

Epstein’s bust comes mere months after a federal judge ruled his 2007 non-prosecution agreement—secretly inked under former U.S. Attorney and current Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta—violated federal law by keeping Epstein’s victims in the dark. Under the sweetheart deal, Epstein dodged federal charges that might have sent him to prison for life. He instead pleaded guilty to minor state charges in Palm Beach, and served 13 months in a private wing of a county jail, mostly on work release.

The alleged victims, who sued the government for violating the Crime Victims’ Rights Act, asked the court to rescind Epstein’s non-prosecution agreement and called for the feds to hold him criminally liable. The NPA also granted immunity to Epstein’s co-conspirators, identified in the document as “including but not limited to Sarah Kellen, Adriana Ross, Lesley Groff, or Nadia Marcinkova.”

But in June, prosecutors for the government advised the judge to uphold the plea deal, saying that voiding it would “cause unintended harm to many of” the victims and jeopardize monetary settlements that more than a dozen of them received.

Epstein reportedly supplied valuable intel to federal investigators in exchange for his lenient plea deal; it’s been speculated this information may have been related to Bear Stearns executives’ alleged crimes in the lead-up to the 2008 financial crisis.

According to one Page Six report, Epstein lost $57 million in Bear Stearns’ collapse and was a victim identified as “Major Investor No. 1” in the indictment of hedge-fund managers Ralph Cioffi and Matthew Tanin. (A federal jury acquitted Cioffi and Tanin of securities fraud charges.) But in March 2019, FOX Business reported that Epstein “did not provide any meaningful cooperation to obtain his relatively light sentence in the hedge fund case or likely any case tied to the financial crisis.” Jack Goldberger, one of Epstein’s attorneys in the Palm Beach sex-crimes case, told FOX of the Bear Stearns’ prosecution, “Mr. Epstein was never spoken to by any of the authorities on this subject. He was a very large investor. No more, no less.”

One former federal prosecutor on the Bear Stearns case agreed. “Bottom line, I have no knowledge of Epstein cooperating in any way in the Bear Stearns case. There was no reason to use him,” the ex-prosecutor told FOX.

Epstein’s Victims
Once a math teacher at the elite Dalton School, Jeffrey Epstein left for Bear Stearns before starting his own firm, J. Epstein & Co., which supposedly only managed the fortunes of billionaires. Les Wexner, chairman of Limited Brands, is his only known client. (In April 2019, a new accuser came forward with claims that Epstein and his alleged madame, Ghislaine Maxwell, assaulted her at Wexner’s Ohio residence in the 1990s. Epstein, Maxwell and Wexner have not commented on these allegations.)

Epstein’s financial career has always been shrouded in mystery.

Over the years, Epstein billed himself as a renowned philanthropist and pledged $30 million for Harvard’s Program for Evolutionary Dynamics. He’s palled around with a host of famous faces including Donald Trump and Bill Clinton; the latter traveled with Epstein to Africa to address issues like economic development and AIDS.

In a 2002 profile in New York, one fellow Wall Streeter described Epstein as a “mysterious, Gatsbyesque figure” who “likes people to think that he is very rich” and “cultivates this air of aloofness.” Another prominent investor added: “He once told me he had 300 people working for him, and I’ve also heard that he manages Rockefeller money. But one never knows. It’s like looking at the Wizard of Oz—there may be less there than meets the eye.”

Vanity Fair’s 2003 take on Epstein compared him to the self-made Jay Gatsby, too. “The trading desks don’t seem to know him. It’s unusual for animals that big not to leave any footprints in the snow,” one insider told the magazine.

During his high-flying finance years, Epstein also allegedly harbored a dark secret: his widespread abuse of underage girls. In 2005, Palm Beach police launched an investigation into Epstein after a 14-year-old girl told police an older man named “Jeff” had molested her at his residence, a two-story pink mansion on a dead-end street.


Authorities would discover a disturbing teen sex ring, where victims were allegedly paid to recruit other young girls to provide “massages” inside Epstein’s lair. The victims would be led to Epstein’s bedroom, and Epstein would enter and order them to remove their clothing, police said. The financier would then assault them—sometimes forcing them into intercourse with him or a young woman he described as his “sex slave”—and pay them $200 to $1,000 per visit, according to court documents.

Police say Epstein’s massages were booked with the help of his personal assistants, including Sarah Kellen, who kept a rolodex of underage girls.

But as The Daily Beast previously reported, the state attorney’s office in Palm Beach declined to pursue serious charges against Epstein (filing only a single felony count of soliciting prostitution), claiming the girls weren’t credible. The local police chief, Michael Reiter, accused prosecutors of giving Epstein special treatment and in 2006 referred the case to the FBI. By May 2007, the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Miami drafted a 53-page indictment against Epstein, alongside an 82-page prosecution memorandum. That summer, however, Epstein’s lawyers worked to unravel the case, claiming Epstein wasn’t guilty of any federal crimes.

Epstein and the feds drew up a non-prosecution agreement in September 2007. Without informing any of the victims, the two sides decided that Epstein would plead guilty to a pair of state charges (solicitation of prostitution and procurement of minors for prostitution) and waive his right to contest damages, if the victims decided to sue him over the abuse. He also agreed to pay for the girls’ attorney’s fees.

Indeed, the NPA stated that “the United States, in consultation with and subject to the good faith approval of Epstein’s counsel, shall select an attorney representative for [the victims], who shall be paid for by Epstein.”

The NPA also granted immunity to any “potential co-conspirator” of Epstein’s and ensured the deal would “not be made part of any public record.”

Epstein could have faced multiple federal charges, the NPA noted, including: sex trafficking of children or by force, fraud or coercion, 18 U.S.C. 1591; the use of a facility or means of interstate commerce to entice minors into prostitution, 18 U.S.C. 2422(b); and traveling for the purpose of engaging in illicit sexual conduct with minors, 18 U.S.C. 2423(b). The document states Epstein might have committed those crimes from around 2001 to September 2007

Other women claim that Epstein’s alleged abuse spanned many years and many locations, according to civil court filings.

“Epstein could have faced multiple federal charges, the NPA noted, including sex trafficking of children or by force, fraud or coercion.”
In an April 2019 affidavit, a woman named Maria Farmer said she met Epstein and Maxwell sometime in 1995, at one of Farmer’s art shows in New York. In 1996, Epstein offered her a job to help him acquire art. But according to Farmer, she instead ended up manning the door at Epstein’s Upper East Side mansion and keeping records of his visitors.

Some of those visitors, Farmer claimed, were underage girls in school uniforms who would be led to an upstairs bedroom for what Maxwell called interviews for “modeling” positions. Farmer witnessed Epstein’s lawyer and friend, Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, head upstairs where the girls were present, the affidavit stated.

Dershowitz has denied Farmer’s accusations. “Maria Farmer stopped working for Epstein before I ever met Epstein,” Dershowitz told The Daily Beast. “It’s a totally perjured affidavit. It’s all totally made up. For her lawyers to submit these obviously perjured affidavits raises serious questions about their role in this case.”

In the summer of 1996, Epstein allegedly arranged for Farmer to work on a special art project at Leslie Wexner’s mansion in New Albany, Ohio. Farmer and her two younger brothers stayed at the property at the time.

Farmer claims Maxwell and Epstein sexually assaulted her at the Ohio property, and Wexner’s security team refused to let her leave. She said she tried calling the sheriff’s office but didn’t get a response. Her father had to drive from Kentucky to help her.

Once she returned to New York, Farmer visited the NYPD’s sixth precinct to report the Ohio assault, but officers there told her to contact the FBI. Farmer called the feds, but they didn’t appear to take any action, the affidavit states.



Trafficking Crimes
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Meanwhile, Farmer claims Epstein and Maxwell preyed on her 15-year-old sister, molesting her at Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico. Epstein also held her sibling’s hand at a New York movie theater, where he “was rubbing her in a sexual manner without my knowledge,” Farmer added.

“I was terrified of Maxwell and Epstein and I moved a number of times to try to hide from them,” Farmer stated of the powerful pair’s alleged threats against her and their alleged efforts to sabotage her reputation in the art world.

Another accuser, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, has long claimed that Epstein and Maxwell abused minor girls across the country and abroad, and that Epstein loaned his victims out to his famous friends, including Dershowitz and Prince Andrew.

Giuffre filed a declaration in 2015 as part of the Crime Victims’ Rights Act suit and detailed Epstein’s alleged sex ring. She said she met Epstein in 1999 after Maxwell approached her during her summer job at Mar-a-Lago. She was 15 years old.

Dershowitz and Prince Andrew vehemently denied Giuffre’s claims, and Buckingham Place quickly released a statement: “It is emphatically denied that HRH The Duke of York had any form of sexual contact or relationship with Virginia Roberts. The allegations made are false and without any foundation.”

“The story is totally made up,” Dershowitz told the BBC after Giuffre’s court filing made international headlines. He added, “My only feeling is if she’s lied about me, which I know to an absolute certainty she has, she should not be believed about anyone else.”

“It wasn’t just sexual training—they wanted me to be able to cater to all the needs of the men they were going to send me to.”


Maxwell allegedly offered Giuffre professional training in massages. But when Giuffre arrived at Epstein’s Palm Beach home, she was allegedly forced into sexual activity with the billionaire and would become trapped in his web.

She said that when she began “working” for Epstein, he flew her to New York on his private jet and molested her at his Manhattan mansion. “I was trained to be ‘everything a man wanted me to be,’” Giuffre said in the declaration. “It wasn’t just sexual training—they wanted me to be able to cater to all the needs of the men they were going to send me to.”

Maxwell and Epstein allegedly ordered Giuffre to pay attention to what the men wanted, so she could report back to them. Giuffre said she traveled with Epstein from 1999 through the summer of 2002, to his homes in New York, New Mexico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and Paris, France.

“I had sex with him often in these places and also with the various people he demanded that I have sex with,” Giuffre stated. “Epstein paid me for many of these sexual encounters. In fact, my only purpose for Epstein, Maxwell and their friends was to be used for sex.”


Giuffre added that “Epstein had sex with underage girls on a daily basis” and that his interest in minor girls was “obvious” to those in his orbit. His code word for this abuse was “massage,” and Maxwell would often have sex with the victims, too, Giuffre claimed.

Maxwell denied Giuffre’s claims as early as 2011, after Giuffre gave an interview to the Daily Mail, releasing a statement that claimed “the allegations made against me are abhorrent and entirely untrue and I ask that they stop.”

In 2015, Maxwell called Giuffre’s allegations “obvious lies,” and Giuffre filed a defamation suit against the socialite. The Miami Herald and other news outlets have asked the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit to unseal all pleadings in that case, which was settled in 2017. Paul Cassell, one of Giuffre’s lawyers, told the court that if the records are made public, they “will show that Epstein and Maxwell were trafficking girls to the benefit of his friends, including Mr. Dershowitz.”

Last week, the court ordered the release of sealed documents in the case.

Epstein allegedly forced Giuffre to have sex with Britain’s Prince Andrew at least three times, including during an orgy. (The court filing includes a photo of “Andy” putting his arm around Giuffre’s partially bare waist, while Maxwell smiles in the background.)

Giuffre said she was also forced to have sex with another Epstein confidant, Jean Luc Brunel, who runs the MC2 modeling agency.

Brunel supplied Epstein with girls as young as 12, luring aspiring models from poor countries or poor backgrounds to the United States, Giuffre alleged. “Jeffrey Epstein has told me that he has slept with over 1,000 of Brunel’s girls, and everything that I have seen confirms this claim,” Giuffre stated. (Brunel, in a previous statement, denied being involved “in the actions Mr. Jeffrey Epstein is being accused of” and said “I have exercised with the utmost ethical standard for almost 40 years.”)

Giuffre said she finally escaped Epstein’s abuse after he sent her to Thailand to learn Thai massage and to recruit another young girl for his alleged sex ring. Instead, Giuffre met her future husband and relocated to Australia.

Years later, in 2011, two FBI agents from Florida visited Giuffre to discuss Epstein. In another declaration, Giuffre said the investigators “seemed like they were being blocked from doing what they wanted to do—which I thought was to arrest Epstein and his powerful friends for all their illegal sexual crimes.”

In 2014, Giuffre tried to contact the FBI again for an update on the Epstein investigation. “I have never been able to figure out who was (and still is) stopping a prosecution,” Giuffre stated in the declaration.

“Because nothing is being done,” Giuffre added, “it makes me think that Epstein was right when he told me he had so many people in his pocket. Maybe those people are still helping him escape being prosecuted for what he did against me.
 
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What if Trump was hiding under mj's bed and it was him who diddled those kids?

Naw, it was Mj. Let's not be stupid.

If there is evidence Trump was involved he should burn like the rest. But I would think that would have already come out by now. Of course, if the Dems stand to be equally embarrassed maybe not...

All I am saying is
Well here you go then, you insufferable faggot.

Notable arrests before and after Trump took office. That's an itemized list with citations. You'll notice far fewer in the "2016" tab.

Eat a bag of dicks, would you kindly?
You realize he will just ignore that because he's not actually interested in facts? He's just here to push 'Trump is rapist' regardless of logic, facts, or basic observable reality.

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Not everyone. But those who spent the most time with him definitely were. That includes Dersh, Clinton and the Duke of York. It also includes Trump, who was Epstein's neighbor in Palm Beach, and Trump's modeling agency (which was a thinly-veiled human-trafficking operation) was the inspiration behind Epstein's modeling agency.


Epstein has dirt on a lot more people than just Donald Trump, but that includes people who can very successfuly try to have him killed. Namely his old girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father was a notorious mogul, spy, and swindler. Ghislaine's a lot like Paris Hilton, only with more money, more sexual depravity, and deeper ties to hostile intelligence agencies and organized crime.

The worst stories about Trump have been out there for longer than most people on this forum have been alive. Lost Tycoon was published in the early '90s, and his reputation before then was less than stellar. It's the biggest reason why he was able to catch the NY media bubble by surprise. Nobody took him seriously because he'd been such a joke for so long, and everybody there already knew The Apprentice had absolutely nothing to do with business.


It wasn't part of a fact-finding expedition. Trump said it himself to Landon Thomas Jr. back in '02 of his own free will to a magazine with hundreds of thousands of subscribers. Reading an article from a relatively popular magazine that's available online for free, even if it's from '02, can't even be called a trip to the library. Let alone an expedition.


Trump and Epstein were neighbors in Palm Beach. And guys like Epstein generally like to stay put of the news as much as they can on account of being criminals. Plus there's the fact that two of Epstein's co-conspirators, Dersh and Acosta, are respectively a shameless Trump shill and a secretary in Trump's cabinet. And the fact that there were three sworn declarations in court against Trump by Katie Johnson, one of her confidants, and one of Epstein's recruiters.

The case was never dismissed. Rather, Katie withdrew because she was most likely afraid of being killed, just like Manafort and Epstein are now.


Hillary Clinton wasn't Donald Trump's neighbor. And Trump explicitly praised Epstein for his love of younger girls years before Epstein was arrested for rape and human trafficking.


Nobody in the MSM wants to run a story that sinks two POTUSes from both major parties, the most famous lawyer in the country, Woody Allen, and the Duke of York. It'll make the fallout from the Cosby story look tame.

CNN is not the be-all, end-all of news. They, along with the rest of the televised MSM, deliberately missed out on every major Trump scandal 'til he clinced the GOP nom because they didn't want to sink the ratings they were getting from his campaign. These scandals require long-form reporting and journalism, an attentive audience, the infuriation of a lot of important people, and the sinking of profitable ratings magnets. Which is why you don't see 'em covered like they should be.
Stop dropping nonsense copypasta into the thread you goddamn rapist sped who rapes people! If you can't responds to a simple argument without dropping a novel then consider that perhaps you have nothing worthwhile to say.
 
And Trump explicitly praised Epstein for his love of younger girls years before Epstein was arrested for rape and human trafficking.
I don't read it as praise at all. To me, it reads like Trump is actually distancing himself from Epstein's proclivities. "Yeah we're both horny players, but Jeff likes 'em a little young for my tastes."
 
I know the obvious answer to this, but can someone give me their opinion on how come so many rumors swirled around this monster and his friends for SO LONG and not one "journalist" either put their life on the line, career on the line or tried to make a career out of finding out if the rumors were true? It looks like all you had to do was be an influencer and well you might get a trip to happy liberal alternative lifestyle island.
Not one journalist thought to put the lives of the kids above their own. Not one.
And people wonder why I have a hate boner for people who are or want to be journalists.
How many people looked the other way on Pill Cosby? Kevin Gaycey? Jimmy Savile? The guys in Motley Crue? Jerry Lee Lewis? R. Kelly? Charlie Rose? Matt Lauer? Harvey Weinstein? Bryan Singer?

Phil Spector was one of the most feared men in music going back decades before his arrest for murder. OJ beat Nicole and was covered for it right up 'til his own arrest. Chris Brown's arrest for rape didn't get nearly as much attention as his beating of Rihanna, and Chris Brown being one of the most despicable musicians alive isn't a secret.

People looked the other way on Michael Jackson after he died, and his predelection for boys wasn't a secret in showbusiness before he was first accused in the '90s. He was always hanging around young boys, even on his dates with Brooke Shields he took Webster along out in public.

People are looking the other way on Dan Schneider now. There were even puff pieces written to defend him. Since deleted, but the web never forgets.

People are looking the other way on Sean Combs, even after he admitted to waking up in the same bed as a very underage Usher (who would go on to have his own suspect relationship with the not-quite-as underage Justin Bieber), and was arrested for assaulting his son's college footbal coach with a kettlebell.

People are looking the other way on Birdman Williams. Even after Li'l Wayne admitted he was raped (his own words) at Birdman's command and for Birdman's viewing pleasure. This was before Birdman and the ridiculously suspect Young Thug tried to have Li'l Wayne assassinated. Cash Money Records is one of the most obvious criminal organizations on the planet, yet you rarely see anyone dig into it.

These stories are the same because they require going up against powerful people. Some of whom have even killed people, or sure as hell look like they've killed people, who went against them. They require long-form investigative journalism, which only gets harder with each passing year due to news media being almost totally worthless as far as money's concerned. They require an attentive readership, and they don't translate well to video, which always leaves out important details.

The Miami Herald proved that this doesn't always have to be the case, but this is an uphill battle where the hill's only getting higher and steeper.
 
I am reasonably goddamned certain that Hawking wasn't exactly capable of raping people
Hawking was actually notorious for going to strip clubs and brothels and changing out wives faster than tires.

you'll literally find absolutely fuck all other than that one quote about how Trump said, "Epstein's a great guy."
Trump also says that about everyone who is powerful or he feels he needs to butter up.
Kim Jong-un: great guy
Vladimir Putin: great guy
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Hawking was actually notorious for going to strip clubs and brothels and changing out wives faster than tires.


Trump also says that about everyone who is powerful or he feels he needs to butter up.
Kim Jong-un: great guy
Vladimir Putin: great guy
...

This proves Trump has endorsed Eminem and everything he's ever done, including orange man bad rap.

 
Every line of that document had a citation. Every single one. Disingenuous fuck.

You realize he will just ignore that because he's not actually interested in facts? He's just here to push 'Trump is rapist' regardless of logic, facts, or basic observable reality.
QAnon has made more failed predictions than the combined efforts of the Millerites. Hussein has never been seen in tribal attire with an AK. Hillary's yet to be arrested Zuckersperg's still CEO of Facebook. The Weekly World News has more credibility than anyone associated with the Q Network. And there's nothing in the documents that compares the actual arrest rates of sex offenders to previous administrations, other than the word of a source less trustworthy than Pravda that Trump's totally cracking down on pedos y'guys!

Hawking was actually notorious for going to strip clubs and brothels and changing out wives faster than tires.
Like I said, ties to Epstein don't necessarily indicate involvement in sex trafficking. They only suggest it, and the suggestion goes stronger the tighter the ties and the more said bigshot has a record of being a predator.

I sure hope Hawking wasn't one of them. I don't give a fuck what horrible shit happens to Allen, Dersh, Trump, Clinton, Spacey, or the Duke of York. But Hawking actually made meaningful contributions to humanity, battling a horrific illness all the while. Losing him would be a tragedy, but the case'll go where the case'll go.

Trump also says that about everyone who is powerful or he feels he needs to butter up.
Kim Jong-un: great guy
Vladimir Putin: great guy
...
If this were true, Trump would always do it to every head of state, especially ones who have excellent nuclear arsenals. Remember him and Macron and how well that worked out?

He does this to Putin and Kim because he genuinely admires them, and wants what they can provide, and have provided.
 
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Stop dropping nonsense copypasta into the thread you goddamn rapist sped who rapes people! If you can't responds to a simple argument without dropping a novel then consider that perhaps you have nothing worthwhile to say.
I pretty much gave up arguing with him after he somehow didn't deduce that there's something seriously wrong with his """""sources""""" when they're dropping any bitch who gets proven to have lied from their counts of accusers.
 
QAnon has made more failed predictions than the combined efforts of the Millerites. Hussein has never been seen in tribal attire with an AK. Hillary's yet to be arrested Zuckersperg's still CEO of Facebook. The Weekly World News has more credibility than anyone associated with the Q Network. And there's nothing in the documents that compares the actual arrest rates of sex offenders to previous administrations, other than the word of a source less trustworthy than Pravda that Trump's totally cracking down on pedos y'guys!
Well if you're trying to source any information from QAnon and you think that's where everybody else is getting their information from then it's no wonder you're so goddamned confused. The only thing QAnon is good for is giving Boomers something to LARP about on Facebook, no one sane believes in it and a very significant swathe of people who aren't Orange Man Bad think that it's just as ridiculous as everyone else. The only people yammering about QAnon on either side of the fence are crazy people.
 
Well if you're trying to source any information from QAnon and you think that's where everybody else is getting their information from then it's no wonder you're so goddamned confused. The only thing QAnon is good for is giving Boomers something to LARP about on Facebook, no one sane believes in it and a very significant swathe of people who aren't Orange Man Bad think that it's just as ridiculous as everyone else. The only people yammering about QAnon on either side of the fence are crazy people.
Then why are you blasting me?

@moocow's the one who brought up the Q thing, unironically, as a defense for Donald Trump, by citing an associate of Q in said defense. Which you'd know if you took ten seconds to look at who ArrestAnon is, like I did:

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I appreciate you demonstrating that you're incapable of elementary research, though.
 
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Then why are you blasting me?

@moocow's the one who brought up the Q thing, unironically, as a defense for Donald Trump, by citing an associate of Q in said defense. Which you'd know if you took ten seconds to look at who ArrestAnon is, like I did:

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I appreciate you demonstrating that you're incapable of elementary research, though.
No he didn't, he linked you to an incredibly specific chart that you clearly did not read. The front page of it is slathered in QAnon crap, but that's not even close to the bulk of the information being provided. Go back to the website, go to the Noteable Human Trafficking Arrests, and actually read it. All of the information is very clearly sourced and cited, it's not just made-up jargon meant to get people riled up on social media, it's a comprehensive, detailed, and thoroughly-cited list. You can hate the organization/person citing the information all that you like, but if you're going to blatantly ignore a massive, source-citing info-dump purely because "ree qanon" then you're just being ridiculous.

Don't insult people for "demonstrating that [they're] incapable of elementary research" when you yourself are incapable of clicking on a different tab in a window. That's rude.
 
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Didn't think I would agree with that grifter on anything, but that sounds believable. Film director Juzo Itami made a movie in the 90s ("Minbo") where the Japanese mafia does something like that. After the movie's release he was physically attacked by the mafia and there are rumors that the mafia was also behind his death a few years later.
 
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Didn't think I would agree with that grifter on anything, but that sounds believable. Film director Juzo Itami made a movie in the 90s ("Minbo") where the Japanese mafia does something like that. After the movie's release he was physically attacked by the mafia and there are rumors that the mafia was also behind his death a few years later.
but of course according to everyone here, clinton is guilty and trump is not lol
 
lol look at how optimistic you all are.
This will go away either by him being found "innocent" or else if it looks like he might roll over and start giving up some important names, he'll mysteriously suicide in his cell with a .45 to the back of the head six times.
Lot of people are going to want Jeff to die before he talks.

I just hope he mumbles "Clinton." before he commits suicide by shooting himself in the head 3 times.

He'll commit suicide by shooting himself 7 times in the back, with a .38 Saturday Night Special.

Wait, what?

The Public Corruption Unit is designed, essentially, to create a "wall" between corrupt DAs and the actual administration of justice--in this case forming a solid wall between the SDNY and the case itself--so control of cases that might otherwise be suspected of mishandling due to a corrupted investigator don't actually land on that person's desk, it's handled externally. It's very unusual that the PCU would be handling a sex trafficking case, because that means they preemptively expected some bullshit to go down in the SDNY to try and protect this guy.

This isn't New York investigating New York this time, the DOJ just shoved its whole ass through the door and started calling the shots. It also heavily implies that someone highly-placed in New York City politics or business is also getting roped into this. (Scream 'Trump' if you want?) Now I'm wondering why his indictment isn't going to be unsealed until Monday, because that just makes me think there's going to be another defendant in this case. If they already have him under arrest, why would they keep the indictment sealed?

This is the kind of case I'm talking about when I say that the "Leak Hunters" did their jobs and now nobody can see what the law is actually doing anymore, because if there was one person who really, really should have been tipped off that he was about to have a hammer come down on his head, it was Epstein. They picked him up fresh off a plane coming in from Europe, though. He had no fucking idea.

Suicide by Clinton, confirmed.
 
No he didn't, he linked you to an incredibly specific chart that you clearly did not read. The front page of it is slathered in QAnon crap, but that's not even close to the bulk of the information being provided. Go back to the website, go to the Noteable Human Trafficking Arrests, and actually read it. All of the information is very clearly sourced and cited, it's not just made-up jargon meant to get people riled up on social media, it's a comprehensive, detailed, and thoroughly-cited list. You can hate the organization/person citing the information all that you like, but if you're going to blatantly ignore a massive, source-citing info-dump purely because "ree qanon" then you're just being ridiculous.

Don't insult people for "demonstrating that [they're] incapable of elementary research" when you yourself are incapable of clicking on a different tab in a window. That's rude.
Notable Human Trafficking Arrests is a subsite of intheMatrixx.com, which is a Q website, which they say on their front fucking page of the cite proper:

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And the "About" section of the NHTA subsite:

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The data wasn't shared by somebody from Q. It's from Q, plain and simple.

Now, far be it from me to speculate that, if I'm right about Donald Trump cultivating a multi-decade friendship with the most famous human trafficker in America, it means that those who're on record spreading outright lies to defend him would bullshit out a sheet to make it look like he's a hero in the fight against modern-day slavery.

I'm just very heavily implying it.

Nah it's just the evolution of "everyone I don't like is a Nazi" but with pedophiles.
Not everybody. I don't think Jared Kushner or Hillary Clinton are pedophiles. I just think they're closet cases in phony marriage.

And that the disapperance of Jared's coworker Paul Allen ought to be seriously investigated. I think the guy who said he just had lunch with Allen recently was misremembering a name.
 
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And there's nothing in the documents that compares the actual arrest rates of sex offenders to previous administrations, other than the word of a source less trustworthy than Pravda that Trump's totally cracking down on pedos y'guys!
The document cites all known arrests in 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019 (up to April, I believe) for sex offense and related crimes. With citations for each arrest. 2016 was the previous administration. Count the records and compare the record count to 2017 or 2018.

If you believe arrests are missing from the 2016 list that makes it deliberately seem shorter than the list for 2017, name them.

Again, each record in the document has a citation from a reliable source.

Keep on ignoring all that though, you disingenuous fuck.

Also, there's no way this disingenuous fuck isn't on someone's payroll. These talking points and this behavior all stink of ShareBlue/CTR-style forum disruption tactics.
 
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