T. Greg Doucette / Thomas Gregory Doucette / greg_doucette / TGDLaw / fsckemall / lawdevnull / TDot - Super Lawyer, Failed Politician, Captain of The Threadnought, Drowning in Debt

[ThonyTheThaigirl]

I'm not sure what CPAPi Chulo's end goal here. Other than twitter cred.

Most of Law Twitter seems to be infected with TDS and Woke-titus-C.
I curious to find out what their opinions were on the Oberlin case or if they had any

CPAPi chulo is my new favorite insult for Thiccy Greg.

 

[king of pickles]

Nick told us not to engage those lolyer clowns for a reason. Whoever engages with them will just get dumped on for not being a lolyer. Their knowledge and opinions might be shit, but they got that printout on the wall that says they know better. In Douchette's case said printout is used to plug a hole in his window.

 

[tds]

Couchette is all in. TCPA granted 100% for all defenfants.

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I wonder how they will spin it when it fails for Toye.

At the beginning those 3-4 laswyers told us "we don't have anything to do with this case. Just talking about".
And now... They spin, spin, spin... I feel like I'm watching CNN after a presidential debate.

If we learn, sometimes, that Couchette was paid by defendants, I would not be surprised.

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Cat Whisperer 🐈 on Twitter

“@SuperMatt5546 @LoveMyTN @Halfcockedlaw @ClockmakerR @guardianelm @RichSeviora @NickRekieta @KULHWIPThr33 @Greytothebone @AkivaMCohen @greg_doucette @questauthority Greg does not look like a fool. His analyses and explanations are consistent with my own experience and education. I say this as a...

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Karla Ferrall on Twitter: "Greg does not look like a fool. His analys…

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how is it possible that they constantly contradict themselves?

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(it's not an answer to Karla. Just an answer to someone who contradict those clowns)

Akiva Cohen on Twitter

“@JoshuaZWalters @karhifer @Ian_PIP_M @SuperMatt5546 @LoveMyTN @Halfcockedlaw @ClockmakerR @guardianelm @RichSeviora @NickRekieta @KULHWIPThr33 @Greytothebone @greg_doucette @questauthority staaaahp. Just stop. You repeating bad legal information doesn't make that information accurate”

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[Dredgen]

Spoiler: rambling context post about Popehat and thus Tgreg

The context surrounding this goes back quite a ways, given that "law twitter" (and by extension Tgreg) is basically an extension of Popehat's ego and accomplishments manifested as orbiting twitter homunculi, I'd argue a good deal of this goes back to his writing on the topic of law and the internet especially pre-trump and pre-gamergate (this is all kind of by my memory of things but this is a while ago so if you think I missed something tag me and I'll add it in).

So, back at the tail end of the internet's golden age, when corporations were still delightfully amoral, internet lawsuits were almost exclusively crazy people suing over getting laughed at, and social media was in its infancy.

Popehat did a lot of writing and legal networking via the "popehat signal" for people being maliciously targeted by assblasted insane people. Marc Randazza is a relevant name in these sagas. Also the word "bumptious". He used that a lot. Also coined the phrase "snort my taint" in response to lawsuit threats. Ultimately he did a lot of good for free speech hooking up clients without 30k to drop on a competent lawyer to file anti-SLAPP motions to shoot down bogus lawsuits. In fact, if I recall correctly that is usually about all they had to do.

The general attitude he held at the time was a pretty hard line "internet speech is free speech and defamation probably isn't a thing here, also I may moderate or delete some comments that's because my blog is my living room" or something like that.

As one might imagine his, and thus his reader's (arguably proto-law-twitter) prevailing set of experience with defamation were not too many competence levels higher than Null's mountain jews; crazies with enough legal understanding or the resources to hire lawyers who had understanding and skills (sometimes) which meant that judges often weren't dismissing these things without a hearing, but again, ultimately defeated at anti-SLAPP. The prevailing legal attitude at the time was a very pre-social media attitude based on non-written communications which Nick has detailed in a general sense before as to why defamation suits generally have a poor reception in law circles, and Popehat wasn't wrong a lot back then, especially when it came to whether lawsuits could be nuked from orbit with an anti-SLAPP.

The parallels with Nick are interesting, because Popehat's, and thus law twitter's, credibility rests on these laurels of built up credibility from past good works and "being right" from the days of yore, and built in a similar manner to how Nick has built his reputation on being correct in the present day. Their choice of medium differs...also their beliefs most divergently, but I'd almost call Popehat a bit of a proto-Nick, though he largely kept his day job where as Nick has turned what he does into his day job.

Back to law twitter itself, shockingly, most of the attitudes of law twitter towards defamation appear to have not evolved since this period of time damn near 10 years ago, back when the "job lynch mob" and total war defamation strategy on political enemies had not really gone mainstream, and it seems to me like major contributing factor to the reason a lot of them continue to hold on to this set of beliefs regarding defamation, especially on the intertubes, is because after several people stopped blogging on popehat (would it shock you to learn this was around when Gamergate started?) it became a bit of a center-left echo chamber in line with Popehat's beliefs, causing either apathy at best or cheering at worst because it typically wasn't "their side" on the receiving end of anything which could be considered defamation. Which is fine I guess...but when you no longer have contradictory ideas in your sphere you can get left behind and that appears to be what has occurred with law twitter, and why they could get Gawker and Oberlin wrong.

Now, in fairness to Popehat, despite his obvious seething hatred for Dick Masterson and Co., he did throw out a popehat signal for that LOLsuit generally but with primary goal of helping Asterios. So there are principles buried in there somewhere, also that LOLsuit was exactly the kind of thing he'd been seeing for years prior.

tl;dr:
Not surprising law twitter has been wrong a lot about defamation lately, they haven't meaningfully updated their resume since the early 2010s.

Popehat and his orbiters seem to knee jerk dismiss anyone suing someone over something said on the internet as though they’re Brett Kimberlin. Add in TDS, woke clout chasing, and the combined smugness of attorneys and blue checkmarks sucking each other’s dicks over how brilliant they are.

They’re like the Captain Planet of dismissive douchebags.

 

[The Littlest Shitlord]

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I wonder how they will spin it when it fails for Toye.

At the beginning those 3-4 laswyers told us "we don't have anything to do with this case. Just talking about".
And now... They spin, spin, spin... I feel like I'm watching CNN after a presidential debate.

If we learn, sometimes, that Couchette was paid by defendants, I would not be surprised.

It's not like they would have to pay him very much, after all. They'd just have to choose a payment method that his creditors wouldn't notice. He obviously doesn't give a shit about paying his student loan debt back and is probably actively trying to stiff the lenders out of spite. Because it's somehow their fault that he's such a fuckup that he tanked not just one, but two careers and walked into the college loan trap not just once but twice.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

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Couchette is all in. TCPA granted 100% for all defenfants.

T. Greg Doucette on Twitter: "Let's be clear here: this deposition is…

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I wonder how they will spin it when it fails for Toye.

At the beginning those 3-4 laswyers told us "we don't have anything to do with this case. Just talking about".
And now... They spin, spin, spin... I feel like I'm watching CNN after a presidential debate.

If we learn, sometimes, that Couchette was paid by defendants, I would not be surprised.

"I can tell you, with 100% certainty, that this deposition, as I have it, with at least 43% of it MISSING, was D I S A S T R O U S for Vic. So disastrous was it, that the FIRST thing I commented on when it came out before it was publicly available, was something about the GFM that the filing lawyer is using to argue a zombie statute that was probably overruled by Citizens United.

If you try to ask me questions about my sheer exceptionality, I will be unable to answer them-- not because I'm actively ignoring you, but because my massive smokescreen I call a "Threadnaught" to which I attach infinitely more famous properties obscures even my vision."

 

[ShortRound]

Because I was bored

 

[Superman93]

Because I was bored

Duuuude chilllll

 

[ShortRound]

Duuuude chilllll

Its not like they could sue him hes fucking bankrupt

 

[tds]

It's not like they would have to pay him very much, after all. They'd just have to choose a payment method that his creditors wouldn't notice. He obviously doesn't give a shit about paying his student loan debt back and is probably actively trying to stiff the lenders out of spite. Because it's somehow their fault that he's such a fuckup that he tanked not just one, but two careers and walked into the college loan trap not just once but twice.

No with his massive dept, I was thinking that he could have accepted something like 0.1$ the tweet.

 

[ShortRound]

LOL even Douchebaguette can't defend Toye's depo
And what points would Vic have fucked up that would render his case moot? Yeah Vic is a Christian. Yeah he cheated on his wife. Yeah he was a pussy-slayer at cons. SO???? What does that have to do with Ron furiously defaming him while fapping in his cage?

Never married it was his fiance

 

[UnderwaterOlympics]

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I wonder if he'll bet that CPAP machine on this prediction. It's 100% after all.

 

[JosephTX]

Just to put this in perspective, this is roughly the same amount of time that it takes to "Credential" a Physician for a new facility or practice. This is pretty common for the sort of background and reference checks that will be going on. This sort of thing is not generally a formality. It says much that his first thing was to admit he now has to try and think up where he is going to get 12 credible references from. I mean lets be upfront about this, from everything we know of Doucette he would seem to be more or less unemployable as a staff attorney by a typical law firm, which is why he is private practice. His dead broke deadbeat criminal clients are more employable than him. At least Waffle House would hire them on the belief that everyone deserves a second chance. I think the Waffle House founders would have immediately flagged Doucette as the snake he is and told him to kiss off.



It will be even more hilarious when they kick his application back seeking more information. Or outright reject it on some background problems. ("tax returns? What do you mean you want Tax Returns?")



It's not HMS Dreadnaught. It is the USS Texas. The last surviving (sort of) pre WW2 "Dreadnaught" type Battleship. It's a (barely) floating museum outside Houston.
https://tpwd.texas.gov/state-parks/battleship-texas

It's actually an even more hilariously unintentional bit of allegory to Doucebagette here. The Texas is decaying badly, the bottom has largely rotted out. It suffers major flooding. It can more or less be considered sunk in its berth. And plans to build a dry berth around it to preserve it and prevent further deterioration have been cancelled because the main support structure was discovered to be 90% rust. Such that they doubt it can still support its own weight out of the water. In other words it's a complete broken down wreck hidden from view by a few coats of paint. Sound Familiar?

Actually the state just in the past few months approved a few million dollars to tow it to a shipyard and rebuild the hull

 

[RodgerDodger]

I find it funny that he uses a picture of HMS Dreadnaught, after all she was designed for use in a naval strategy which was already obsolete.

Actually the state just in the past few months approved a few million dollars to tow it to a shipyard and rebuild the hull

Again? The problem from what I understand isn’t just the holes in the hull. It’s that the central load bearing structural supports in the lower ship are “90% rust”, so much so that they are terrified that the ship might collapse if forced to bear it’s own weight in a dry berth. And I’m not sure there is any way to fix that? The last time they towed it out to dry dock and repair it, it nearly foundered when a new hole opened up while moving it.

 

[talk talk talk]

Since the Douche apparently can't make a living practicing law, maybe he can get a gig as a ship ironworker trying to rebuild the Texas. Good pay, but hard work.

Or maybe not, considering the "hard work" thing.

Carry on, counselor. Carry on.

 

[ThonyTheThaigirl]

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T. Greg Doucette on Twitter: "Let's be clear here: this deposition is…

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I wonder how they will spin it when it fails for Toye.

At the beginning those 3-4 laswyers told us "we don't have anything to do with this case. Just talking about".
And now... They spin, spin, spin... I feel like I'm watching CNN after a presidential debate.

If we learn, sometimes, that Couchette was paid by defendants, I would not be surprised.

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Cat Whisperer 🐈 on Twitter

“@SuperMatt5546 @LoveMyTN @Halfcockedlaw @ClockmakerR @guardianelm @RichSeviora @NickRekieta @KULHWIPThr33 @Greytothebone @AkivaMCohen @greg_doucette @questauthority Greg does not look like a fool. His analyses and explanations are consistent with my own experience and education. I say this as a...

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Karla Ferrall on Twitter: "Greg does not look like a fool. His analys…

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how is it possible that they constantly contradict themselves?

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(it's not an answer to Karla. Just an answer to someone who contradict those clowns)
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Akiva Cohen on Twitter

“@JoshuaZWalters @karhifer @Ian_PIP_M @SuperMatt5546 @LoveMyTN @Halfcockedlaw @ClockmakerR @guardianelm @RichSeviora @NickRekieta @KULHWIPThr33 @Greytothebone @greg_doucette @questauthority staaaahp. Just stop. You repeating bad legal information doesn't make that information accurate”

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Karla Ferrall, the oh-so-great and well-known Senior Assistant Attorney General for the appellate division of the DOJ for the state of Oregon (there are many of these assistant attorneys, around 300 actually), was paid, as a full time attorney for the state, $101,824/year. Her fellow attorneys with the same job title were making, on average, $20k-$60k/year more than her at the time, and there were only maybe 30-35 senior asst. attorneys general in the Oregon DOJ making less than her. Yikes. She's solidly bottom 10% in her field. I'm sad to say that even CPAPi chulo and Akikea Cohen impress me more than this bottom feeder attorney.

 

[AnOminous]

tl;dr:
Not surprising law twitter has been wrong a lot about defamation lately, they haven't meaningfully updated their resume since the early 2010s.

They also seem almost pathologically lazy about actually looking at facts in the case, instead spitting out easy bromides like "it's hard to win a defamation case" rather than, for instance, reading Ron Toye's actual trash fire of a social media presence packed with statements that were clearly defamatory on their face and literally explicitly directed at harming Vic.

This is reminiscent of how wrong many of these people were about Gawker as well. General legal principles are one thing but you couldn't look at what was actually going on in that courtroom and not realize the judge and jury were at a certain point not even attempting to conceal their seething hatred of the defendants, who were behaving atrociously and, just in one example, making jokes about releasing child sex tapes if the kid was over four.

People in the courtroom said they were just looking at the defendants like they were some kind of disgusting insects much of the time. Nobody, much less the defendants, should have been at all surprised at the outcome.

 

[Genkoda]

They also seem almost pathologically lazy about actually looking at facts in the case, instead spitting out easy bromides like "it's hard to win a defamation case" rather than, for instance, reading Ron Toye's actual trash fire of a social media presence packed with statements that were clearly defamatory on their face and literally explicitly directed at harming Vic.

This is reminiscent of how wrong many of these people were about Gawker as well. General legal principles are one thing but you couldn't look at what was actually going on in that courtroom and not realize the judge and jury were at a certain point not even attempting to conceal their seething hatred of the defendants, who were behaving atrociously and, just in one example, making jokes about releasing child sex tapes if the kid was over four.

People in the courtroom said they were just looking at the defendants like they were some kind of disgusting insects much of the time. Nobody, much less the defendants, should have been at all surprised at the outcome.

So pretty much laziness and then doubling down instead of admitting they were in error is what this is? Or maybe they are assblasted about the farms and think the farms is connected to vic(even though he probably would not like anything about us).

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Karla Ferrall, the oh-so-great and well-known Senior Assistant Attorney General for the appellate division of the DOJ for the state of Oregon (there are many of these assistant attorneys, around 300 actually), was paid, as a full time attorney for the state, $101,824/year. Her fellow attorneys with the same job title were making, on average, $20k-$60k/year more than her at the time, and there were only maybe 30-35 senior asst. attorneys general in the Oregon DOJ making less than her. Yikes. She's solidly bottom 10% in her field. I'm sad to say that even CPAPi chulo and Akikea Cohen impress me more than this bottom feeder attorney.

I become more and more certain of the possibility that Rial and co are literally paying every lawyer that has come out of the woodworks for them with every passing minute to run smokescreen do PR for them, which actually means they've been paying way more than three whole firms.

I've already reached 200%-- I don't know how that's possible or what that's even supposed to materialize as, but that's where I am presently.

 

[AnOminous]

So pretty much laziness and then doubling down instead of admitting they were in error is what this is?

I fully expect when things don't go their way, they will hurl insults at the judge, the fact that he was originally appointed by Rick Perry, Texas, Texans in general, and everything but the idiots defendants and their shockingly arrogant and unlawful behavior.

Also, just to give a grasp on the sheer dumbness of what Twitter law is saying, they are saying that repeatedly calling a man a rapist and child molester, not once, not twice, but dozens, literally hundreds of times is, under no circumstances, actionable defamation, and no conceivable jury could find it to be so. That's what they have to convince the judge of, at least specifically with regard to Ron Toye.

Defamation per se consists of four things: allegations you are not competent in your profession, that you have committed a criminal act, that you have engaged in sexual misconduct, or that you have a foul disease. All they'd have to do to turn this trifecta of three of those claims into having them all would be to claim he has AIDS too.

And don't forget they did all this with the publicly stated up front intention of not only costing the man his current employment, but permanently rendering him unemployable for reasons such as "I want his head. I want his balls." More or less admitting they want to destroy him solely because they hate him.