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[Solzhenitsyn]

I've fallen down the rabbit hole of that detransitioning stuff, and man, it's...eye-opening, to say the least. Especially when troons go in to try and argue with them.

One response that kinda stuck with me, though:

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

I've fallen down the rabbit hole of that detransitioning stuff, and man, it's...eye-opening, to say the least. Especially when troons go in to try and argue with them.

One response that kinda stuck with me, though:
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guy he's quoting probably just decided to become a pretty lady and hasn't gotten his penis cut off yet.

 

[Raging Capybara]

passes pretty well for a twink with weird nipples

But twinks are not men. When she hits her 30s this body will be a embarrassment.

 

[General Disarray]

Reconstruction is horrific. Insurance has to pay for it

It's not always covered by insurance - for born females, anyway, (Might be different for cancer patients). Mine certainly was not covered. Born females get to just deal with whatever they have on their chests even if they had invasive, life-saving surgery as a child that caused irregular breast development. Don't know why MTF troons can't just deal with what HRT "naturally" "creates" for them.

 

[Less Nasty Old Person]

It's not always covered by insurance - for born females, anyway, (Might be different for cancer patients). Mine certainly was not covered. Born females get to just deal with whatever they have on their chests even if they had invasive, life-saving surgery as a child that caused irregular breast development. Don't know why MTF troons can't just deal with what HRT "naturally" "creates" for them.

Yes, I should have clarified -- for cancer patients, reconstruction is covered. Thank the "save the ta-tas" lobby of the breast cancer "awareness" lobby. No matter what's happened to us, we MUST look acceptable to males. Fuck that shit, just save the women.

 

[NoFeline]

Thank the "save the ta-tas" lobby of the breast cancer "awareness" lobby. No matter what's happened to us, we MUST look acceptable to males. Fuck that shit, just save the women.

I knew a woman who refused the free reconstruction, a godly woman, saying that it was vain and worldly to have them fixed. Then months down the line she was crying about it. As it turns out, having a mangled nip-less monstrosity hanging off your lopsided chest does something awful to your self esteem, whether you care about the male gaze or not.

 

[NP 901]

It's not always covered by insurance - for born females, anyway, (Might be different for cancer patients). Mine certainly was not covered. Born females get to just deal with whatever they have on their chests even if they had invasive, life-saving surgery as a child that caused irregular breast development. Don't know why MTF troons can't just deal with what HRT "naturally" "creates" for them.

Just say ’women’, we know you don’t mean troons.

 

[Underestimated Nutria]

A few days ago I came across a Reddit post by a troon who had scheduled an orchiectomy (for those who don't know, it's med-speak for removal of the testes, which is a simple, relatively inexpensive procedure with a low overall rate of complications) with a SRS surgeon who ended up convincing the troon to go with a "full vaginoplasty" instead. He was badly botched and deeply regretted the whole thing. His post reeked of desperation. It wouldn't surprise me if this person ended up as a statistic in the 40% suicide rate.

(The post has been deleted now, so I'm just paraphrasing, but reading it really hammered in how much this "gender surgery" business is not about medicine and everything about sales.)

Since you seem more au fait with this sort of stuff than me ... is there any awareness that, by removing your testosterone, you put yourself in the catch 22 of subduing the libido that makes the idea seem like a good one to begin with?

If I can express bizarre related thought, with the proviso that I am way of my depth: I wonder if hormone therapy might genuinely be beneficial, if the appropriate therapy existed, to make the fetishism abate so that it can be dealt with as ... ego alien, I guess?

 

[Trappy]

Is there any awareness that, by removing your testosterone, you put yourself in the catch 22 of subduing the libido that makes the idea seem like a good one to begin with?

That's the great irony about AGPs rushing to get the chop, they think they're gonna get a real vagina ("my gyno couldn't even tell it from a cis womans vagina!") but they just end up as a mutilated eunuch with what can only be described as post nut clarity on steroids.

 

[Peaches Demure]

Since you seem more au fait with this sort of stuff than me ... is there any awareness that, by removing your testosterone, you put yourself in the catch 22 of subduing the libido that makes the idea seem like a good one to begin with?

If I can express bizarre related thought, with the proviso that I am way of my depth: I wonder if hormone therapy might genuinely be beneficial, if the appropriate therapy existed, to make the fetishism abate so that it can be dealt with as ... ego alien, I guess?

Both yes and no; some actually ask specifically for testosterone blockers (the type of stuff they give to sex criminals to induce "chemical castration") because they recognize how much their abnormal libido is running the show and want to reduce its influence. And lo and behold, a lot of autogynephile fetishists immediately desist when wearing frilly knickers doesn't produce the same, ahem, happy experience in their nether regions.

IMO, orchiectomy should only be considered as a treatment option if the patient experienced clinical relief in having their testosterone blocked. Should you change your mind after an orchiectomy, you're dependent on exogenous shots of testosterone for life. That being said, sexual function (a castrated male with artificially boosted hormone levels can become erect, orgasm and ejaculate like any normal dude, except there won't be any sperm cells in his ejaculate) and urological function usually remain intact. Not so much with a neo-vagina, and yet we have troons who go from "questioning" to having dick-butchering surgery scheduled in less than six months.

I personally think that testosterone blockers only (i.e. no estrogen) sounds like a promising treatment against clinically pathological expressions of autogynephilia and other fetishes. It requires, of course, that the patient recognizes their condition for what it is and complies with the treatment plan. And we all know that once you've been caught up in online troon echo-chambers, it's difficult to break out and adopt a different perspective, so I am in no ways hopeful.

EDIT: Fixed misspelling

 

[Wallace]

A study has been done which suggests that feelings of dysphoria (troonism) may subside when patients are prescribed same-sex hormones as opposed to opposite sex hormones, so maybe.

Makes me wonder if a placebo could treat troonism.

 

[CheezzyMach]

I've fallen down the rabbit hole of that detransitioning stuff, and man, it's...eye-opening, to say the least. Especially when troons go in to try and argue with them.

One response that kinda stuck with me, though:
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This sounds exactly like stories I've heard of gay people trying to "live straight" when homosexuality was still taboo.

Most either ended up killing themselves or got fed up trying to live a lie.

Trangenderism sounds exactly like trying to "live straight".

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

This sounds exactly like stories I've heard of gay people trying to "live straight" when homosexuality was still taboo.

Most either ended up killing themselves or got fed up trying to live a lie.

Trangenderism sounds exactly like trying to "live straight".

and yet for the majority of troons who get sucked into the cult, having them live as their own sex is seen as "conversion therapy".
Thing is, other than aids, sticking your dick in another man's butthole or licking another girl's snatch is largely an unproblem when it comes down to it.
Troonism's endgame is complete mutilation. It's like telling an anorexic girl (as a professional) being 65 pounds is fine because her bloodwork checks out at the moment or telling a cutter that the gash wide enough to leak fat is perfectly okay because "at least you kept from killing yourself". People would purposefully tell their five year old kids they'll get fat if they eat all their dinner (some women do this, but they're not seen as sane), or give them a knife and tell them how to make the hurt go away. And the woke left would pat the kid with infected gaping wounds on the back. That's what this is fucking like.

what the fuck kind of world do we live in

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

what the fuck kind of world do we live in

One that we need to get out from.

 

[666vampire999]

not to get too off topic, but the more i learn about the contemporary trans movement the more repulsed i am by it. if some of these individuals weren't so clearly pathological sociopathic monsters or degenerate clowns i’d hesitate to derive any pleasure from this thread. thankfully we have those more exceptional individuals to keep it a bit lighter, but that insanely dark undercurrent is inescapable. so many vulnerable young adults and now even children have been lured into this mess by a dishonest medical industry that wants nothing more than new bodies to exploit.

i’d bet you most of the doctors, psychiatrists, and pharmacists butchering these miserable bastards don’t believe half shit they say. i mean honestly, look at any of the examples of top surgery or srs itt, what ernest and well intentioned human would be able to do these procedures every day and not have second thoughts?? profit is a profit though, and i doubt they care.

and this isn’t even getting into the whole cultural aspect of it all. what you lot have been saying about gay erasure and sterilization is dead on. what easier way to control such a population than to make it cool to sterilize yourself? god i shudder to think where this all ends. sorry for being a downer, but it’s hard to lurk here and see all this without making comment

 

[Wallace]

i’d bet you most of the doctors, psychiatrists, and pharmacists butchering these miserable bastards don’t believe half shit they say. i mean honestly, look at any of the examples of top surgery or srs itt, what ernest and well intentioned human would be able to do these procedures every day and not have second thoughts?? profit is a profit though, and i doubt they care.

Some are driven by profit, but I think many are also covering their asses with both hands. There's a hefty dose of emotional blackmail and peer pressure when dealing with troonery, and they don't want to be seen as invalidating a group of people with a ridiculously high suicide rate.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

so many vulnerable young adults and now even children have been lured into this mess by a dishonest medical industry that wants nothing more than new bodies to exploit.

History repeats itself. So many things where seen as THE cure for mental problems. Lobotomy, the drug thorazine in the 50s, hysterical paroxysm in the 1900s, electric shock therapy and so on. Only in hindsight people realize how dumb & barbaric it was...and then something new comes around.

 

[remiem]

Yes, I should have clarified -- for cancer patients, reconstruction is covered. Thank the "save the ta-tas" lobby of the breast cancer "awareness" lobby. No matter what's happened to us, we MUST look acceptable to males. Fuck that shit, just save the women.

IMO. This post is dumb. I'm mad on the internet, too. Your argument is so nonsense. Breasts aren't just about the male gaze. A lot of women are very happy with their boobs and the loss of them for any reason is devastating. Same with them being deformed or any other number of issues they can have. Too big, too small, etc. It's not about what men think, a lot of the time it's a body part that makes women happy. A woman doesn't choose a cleavage bearing shirt just for men to look at her cleavage, she does it because she likes how it looks. Stop trying to make it out like shit is done for the male gaze when it's the choice of women to get it done.

Losing your breasts can be as devastating to the self esteem of a woman as losing their hair.

Anecdotally;

I knew a woman who refused the free reconstruction, a godly woman, saying that it was vain and worldly to have them fixed. Then months down the line she was crying about it. As it turns out, having a mangled nip-less monstrosity hanging off your lopsided chest does something awful to your self esteem, whether you care about the male gaze or not.

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It's not about looking acceptable to males, it's about looking acceptable to ourselves. There may be a component of women liking attributes that make them more attractive to men but at the end of the day it's about the comfort the woman. Losing your breasts can make you feel as though you've lost part of yourself not just physically but mentally. They aren't just sexual objects, they're an inherent marker of womanhood, they provide nourishment to children- you ask women what they'd like to change if they could and i's rarely their breasts unless the breasts have an issue. Breasts are more than just fat lumps on the body of a woman that men usually happen to like- they mean just as much if not more to actual women. There are even tattoo artists out there who specialize in tattooing realistic nipples on reconstructed breasts and the women who get it done will cry seeing themselves looking whole again after a loss that has affected them deeply.

So frankly, take your male gaze argument here and shove it.

 

[Wallace]

History repeats itself. So many things where seen as THE cure for mental problems. Lobotomy, the drug thorazine in the 50s, hysterical paroxysm in the 1900s, electric shock therapy and so on. Only in hindsight people realize how dumb & barbaric it was...and then something new comes around.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

Not to get too OT (if it is, give me a slapping) but is /r/detrans considered part of the r/trans community? Because I read some of the stuff on there and it is utterly, gob-smackingly awful. Posts from people in genuine distress when they've realised what they've done. But there always seems to be a few people commenting on there about "It will be FIIIIIIINNNNEEEEEE", like they're trying to gloss over it all.

when did people become so exceptional about dangerous, risky surgery? "picking a gender" isn't like choosing your outfit for the day