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I did check all of it. Y'all are acting like it was frivilous; just happened that I didn't think those details impacted anything, beyond further confirmation.
Okay. Here's something you didn't consider in your rush to get this dox out. It is actually possible that they are committing fraud by having two active voter registrations in two separate states (y'know, being able to vote twice in different states), but, since you were digging publicly about them, you didn't have time to verify what this could all mean and if it is innocent or not. A dox has to present all the information gathered to draw an inference.

Florida and Texas specifically doesn't crosscheck voter registration, so that seems rather convenient.
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Also, they are flight attendants, so it's not hard to get state to state to get away with these kind of things.
 
Okay. Here's something you didn't consider in your rush to get this dox out. It is actually possible that they are committing fraud by having two active voter registrations in two separate states (y'know, being able to vote twice in different states), but, since you were digging publicly about them, you didn't have time to verify what this could all mean and if it is innocent or not. A dox has to present all the information gathered to draw an inference.

Florida and Texas specifically doesn't crosscheck voter registration, so that seems rather convenient.
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I'm not interested in investigating their potential fraud. That can be up to proper authorities

As the cursory evidence is there to support voter fraud, there is much more that needs to be investigated; a lot of which is not accessible to public. So, I don't want to jump to any conclusions. That's all that I mean by it.
 
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It's not spectacular. Average at best.
Depends on what you mean by average, even for an amateur group it's definitely sub average. First half, I was thinking, this blocking/choreography is awful, the 'dancing' is not even dancing, and I was thinking "Maybe they are on an uber limited space stage (maybe 4-6' deep), that would explain the blocking issues" then the video zooms out and the stage looks at least 10-15' deep.
 
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Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but is it possible that these two were a honeytrap all along? It seems really weird for them to following Vic around at conventions, and then not know what he had in mind when he invited them to his room - they don't seem like the shy, socially awkward types that might not understand what was going on. Additionally, as cosplayers and stewardesses, I imagine they get hit on a-plenty. Considering that they were living with MoRonica, and that MoRonica apparently hated Vic for quite some time, it doesn't seem as far fetched to me as it once did. And, if they idolized him as much as Vic seemed to think (admittedly humility wasn't his strong suit...), I find it hard to believe they would suddenly hate him enough to ruin him just because he wanted them.
 
Okay. Here's something you didn't consider in your rush to get this dox out. It is actually possible that they are committing fraud by having two active voter registrations in two separate states (y'know, being able to vote twice in different states), but, since you were digging publicly about them, you didn't have time to verify what this could all mean and if it is innocent or not. A dox has to present all the information gathered to draw an inference.

Florida and Texas specifically doesn't crosscheck voter registration, so that seems rather convenient.
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I don't know if being registered in two states will do them any good even if they are committing some kind of election fraud. From their Twitter accounts they look like Bernie supporters. Missouri is solid red and Florida leaned Trump last election.

Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but is it possible that these two were a honeytrap all along? It seems really weird for them to following Vic around at conventions, and then not know what he had in mind when he invited them to his room - they don't seem like the shy, socially awkward types that might not understand what was going on. Additionally, as cosplayers and stewardesses, I imagine they get hit on a-plenty. Considering that they were living with MoRonica, and that MoRonica apparently hated Vic for quite some time, it doesn't seem as far fetched to me as it once did. And, if they idolized him as much as Vic seemed to think (admittedly humility wasn't his strong suit...), I find it hard to believe they would suddenly hate him enough to ruin him just because he wanted them.

Based on their ages and Vic's deposition testimony, this probably would have happened back in 2015 or maybe 2016 before they would have had their stewardess jobs. Going from some of their earliest tweets, it looked like the met with and befriended Monica back in 2012 so I suppose that it's possible, but you'd need some really solid evidence to make me believe something like that. That would be one hell of an op for a group of idiots that have fucked everything up so badly.
 
Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but is it possible that these two were a honeytrap all along? It seems really weird for them to following Vic around at conventions, and then not know what he had in mind when he invited them to his room - they don't seem like the shy, socially awkward types that might not understand what was going on. Additionally, as cosplayers and stewardesses, I imagine they get hit on a-plenty. Considering that they were living with MoRonica, and that MoRonica apparently hated Vic for quite some time, it doesn't seem as far fetched to me as it once did. And, if they idolized him as much as Vic seemed to think (admittedly humility wasn't his strong suit...), I find it hard to believe they would suddenly hate him enough to ruin him just because he wanted them.
It is possible they were used as a trap laid out by Moronica, it all seems pretty coincidental but, that's just speculation.
 
It is possible they were used as a trap laid out by Moronica, it all seems pretty coincidental but, that's just speculation.

Considering one of them actually worked at the Tuttle Group, and apparently they lived with them at some point, it's not that far a stretch - but not really anything out there to support it beyond speculation
 
I'm not interested in investigating their potential fraud. That can be up to proper authorities

As the cursory evidence is there to support voter fraud, there is much more that needs to be investigated; a lot of which is not accessible to public. So, I don't want to jump to any conclusions. That's all that I mean by it.
I agree, it does have to be investigated. Just try and include the kind of info for that discussion so the proper autists can look into it after the damage is already done. That's all I'm saying. Not everyone might catch stuff like that.
 
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I agree, it does have to be investigated. Just try and include the kind of info for that discussion so the proper autists can look into after the damage is already done. That's all I'm saying. Not everyone might catch stuff like that.

I hesitate to do it often because I don't want the casual person to take it and run to harass the police etc. But, it's good advice
 
Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but is it possible that these two were a honeytrap all along?

I doubt it.

Monica's friendliness with Vic during the Broly press tour tells me that none of this was planned. I think she saw an opportunity during KickVic and used what he knew to complain to Funimation. If she was that clever, she would have had better stories and more witnesses for the investigation. She only had a week to put something together and it shows.
 
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don't mind me just dropping this by. For some reason I can't get archive site to archive instagram.


All i got was this http://archive.fo/EOyYP
Lol Monica’s dentures.
 
I am still flabbergasted that in the transcript for Vic’s deposition they actually put out the accurate X’s associated to Sara’s first and last name.

You know how much of a boomer Nick is? He's actually phenomenally tech savvy for a lawyer. Most lawyers are super boomers.

Maybe it has something to do with the spacing? Idk why but legal documents seem to always use monospace fonts.

Because you know how lawyers are boomers? Well, there are literally still judges from the Greatest Generation and they're super conservative about style. Courier New and Times New Roman are the norm. Even Arial is a bit racy for their blood.

Just your daily reminder that people like monica are exactly why the dubbing scene in america needs to be scorched to the earth and japan needs to tard wrangle to the extreme, whether america likes it or not.

Japan needs to just train up its own crop of voice actors and do their own dubs, whether using natives who can do an American or English accent, or imports. The only reason they use Funi at all is they're cheap, but their cheapness stops being cheap when it starts actually bleeding money and fans and damaging the reputation of your properties.

If Toei realizes they're losing face here, Funi has way worse problems than just Vic.

Sexual harassment of coworkers, on the other hand, instantly makes you a radioactive hire and torpedoes any professional career. Nobody wants to take on the legal liability of hiring a known sexual harasser and being held liable for condoning and accepting their harassment.

This is probably why Vic sued Funi, in addition to the whole deep pockets thing. You really, really don't want to sue an ex-employer. That's bad.

But being a sexual harasser of co-workers is fatal. You simply can't let that stand.

It's only enforceable if they give a severance package that's tied to accepting the terms, and even then only if you pay them enough money that they're willing to abide by the terms.

Lol at Sony thinking they could tell Vic to do shit after firing him. Bitch, I don't work for you assholes any more.

Okay. Here's something you didn't consider in your rush to get this dox out. It is actually possible that they are committing fraud by having two active voter registrations in two separate states (y'know, being able to vote twice in different states), but, since you were digging publicly about them, you didn't have time to verify what this could all mean and if it is innocent or not. A dox has to present all the information gathered to draw an inference.

No, there's nothing illegal about being registered to vote in two or even more states. It's only illegal actually to vote in two states, and even then, it's somewhat ambiguous and differs from state to state what "voting in two states" means. It's unquestionably illegal to vote for the same federal office in both states, such as in a Presidential election. It is probably illegal to vote in the same Senate or House election in two states. It may be illegal (and probably should be) to vote in two state elections for state offices on the same day. But you're generally allowed to vote where you're living.

If I'm registered in Florida and Connecticut, for instance, and move back and forth, if I'm residing in Florida on one day and there's a governor election, I should probably be allowed to vote for that until the literal day I move, and if I vote for the governor in Connecticut the day I arrive, that is probably legal.

The usual kind of fraud here is where someone votes by absentee ballot in the same election as they vote in person in another state. Unless they actually did something like that, it isn't illegal by itself to be registered in two states. It's up to the state to purge voter rolls, and your registration doesn't just magically turn off when you leave.
 
Okay. Here's something you didn't consider in your rush to get this dox out. It is actually possible that they are committing fraud by having two active voter registrations in two separate states (y'know, being able to vote twice in different states), but, since you were digging publicly about them, you didn't have time to verify what this could all mean and if it is innocent or not. A dox has to present all the information gathered to draw an inference.

Florida and Texas specifically doesn't crosscheck voter registration, so that seems rather convenient.
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Also, they are flight attendants, so it's not hard to get state to state to get away with these kind of things.
No one gives a fuck if they're committing fraud, all that matters is that the dox are good.
 
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Just your daily reminder that people like monica are exactly why the dubbing scene in america needs to be scorched to the earth and japan needs to tard wrangle to the extreme, whether america likes it or not.
Not just dubbing, the entire localization industry. Despite now being a sizable chunk of the market, localizers (this includes official subtitles) still pay companies a one time payment as they did in the 90s, when most anime didn't make back what you spent and you were gambling until you got a dragonball or pokemon. Most localization rights for anime, unless you're a massive company like toei, are sold for less than the cost to produce half an episode (for a standard 13 episode cour). This allows companies like crunchyroll to operate at near 100% profit margins and have a buffer for any pushback they get for their sjw politics, meanwhile, the struggling japanese industry they fleece wholesale is entirely cut out of a market that is constantly growing to larger percentage of the customer base.
 
I doubt it.

Monica's friendliness with Vic during the Broly press tour tells me that none of this was planned. I think she saw an opportunity during KickVic and used what he knew to complain to Funimation. If she was that clever, she would have had better stories and more witnesses for the investigation. She only had a week to put something together and it shows.
Frankly, I'm not sure which is more disgusting, the notion that someone might have planned this out in advance (which wouldn't be new in human history), or that the first thing one or more of these people thought off the top of their head(s) when a degenerate started accusing Vic of sexual assault was "how can this benefit me" with the followup "and how can I lie to make that happen?". Because man, if it wasn't planned it came together real fast.
 
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