Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

Pfft, fuck that. If they want to read what I post they can migrate over here. At least if they come pulling their Reddit culture "omg you have to use the right pronouuuuns!!!" and blogging bullshit they'll get autism-rated into outer space by old timers.
Anyway I still don't get this "let's report the mods!" business. You already have r/malingering and r/munchausenbyinternet if you want a PC hugbox that requires mods to approve "subjects" but not those particular mods. You have here if you want somewhere to mock freely where mods only bother you if you do something rétarded and no-blogging is enforced by doxing. And the LCF threads are back now if you want to mock freely in an anonymous space.
This is so true. I prefer to sit back in here and lol at the tards in IF.
some of the people in ifaftermath were actually banned for blogging. Will find
Im sure the one starting the mod revolution was one of them or defending blogging. Maybe that user could answer that.
If so go to malingering is indeed the answer.

I much prefer KF but somehow half the people on IFA can't figure out how to use KF even though JFC you guys it's a forum just like fucking reddit, just search the word "munchie" on the front page of KF and you'll fuckin find the thread you want. So I launched the report-the-mod business because everyone's too goddamn stupid or disorganized to use malingering or IFA. Thread flopped so hard I'm tempted to just delete it. My jimmies are genuinely rustled by the bad leadership in IF but that's just my own sperging flowing freely. You can check my post history though, I don't blog, lol. I don't give a shit about your problems and I don't feel the need to share my own.

Plus no one will accept my request to join r/munchausensbyinternet :(
 
When I'm feeling bored I just give the Ole chronicallyill hashtag a go and I can easily find tons and tons of ott "spoonies" or fakers. Most seem to have a serious eating disorder or mental disorder that just fits so well with one of these dime in a dozen diseases (pots, EDs, GP) they all claim to have and they run with it to get the attention they are seriously craving. It's quite sad... The real chronic illness accounts are hard to find and it's usually a cute kid with cancer, cp or other unfakeable illnesses. And every time I find one of these fake accounts I come here looking for them cause they all show up eventually. I might find too much enjoyment watching them scramble to make sense of their very holey stories. Found and old lolcow thread where a spoonies came in to defend herself and still couldn't keep her story straight...
 
I much prefer KF but somehow half the people on IFA can't figure out how to use KF even though JFC you guys it's a forum just like fucking reddit, just search the word "munchie" on the front page of KF and you'll fuckin find the thread you want. So I launched the report-the-mod business because everyone's too goddamn stupid or disorganized to use malingering or IFA. Thread flopped so hard I'm tempted to just delete it. My jimmies are genuinely rustled by the bad leadership in IF but that's just my own sperging flowing freely. You can check my post history though, I don't blog, lol. I don't give a shit about your problems and I don't feel the need to share my own.

Plus no one will accept my request to join r/munchausensbyinternet :(

Naw sorry, I wasn't trying to say you blogged. Everything I saw you post was good shit. I didn't realize you were also the one organizing it (my own fault for not checking the thread myself). Yeah I've had to walk a few redditors through using this forum which is odd... one had a legitimate issue that needed Null to bypass but the others were like "HOW 2 FIND MUNCHEE THRD?"
 
I don't know how many would be threadworthy on their own. Although the one I'm working on honestly might, jesus christ it's taken me like 4 weeks to even skim her accounts and my intro post is already several thousands of words long.
You tease! This sounds amazing.

Plus no one will accept my request to join r/munchausensbyinternet
Don't bother- there were maybe 15 total posts, all about Amanda/Ren. Once IF unbanned her as a topic of discussion the sub became a ghost town. The last post was from 4 weeks ago.
 
Naw sorry, I wasn't trying to say you blogged. Everything I saw you post was good shit. I didn't realize you were also the one organizing it (my own fault for not checking the thread myself). Yeah I've had to walk a few redditors through using this forum which is odd... one had a legitimate issue that needed Null to bypass but the others were like "HOW 2 FIND MUNCHEE THRD?"

no worries. I don't understand the fucking problem, fuuuuck. LC is admittedly a lot more complicated especially if you never fucked around on 4chan or similar, but this is just a forum, it's not that goddamn complicated. There's a search bar and everything.
 
Plus no one will accept my request to join r/munchausensbyinternet :(
was involved in the start of r/munchausensbyinternet before I realized the other proposed mods were all munchies. messaging me off their chronic illness instagrams. nope-d tf outta there before it took off.
also, no one posts there. you're not missing anything.
 
I much prefer KF but somehow half the people on IFA can't figure out how to use KF even though JFC you guys it's a forum just like fucking reddit, just search the word "munchie" on the front page of KF and you'll fuckin find the thread you want. So I launched the report-the-mod business because everyone's too goddamn stupid or disorganized to use malingering or IFA. Thread flopped so hard I'm tempted to just delete it. My jimmies are genuinely rustled by the bad leadership in IF but that's just my own sperging flowing freely. You can check my post history though, I don't blog, lol. I don't give a shit about your problems and I don't feel the need to share my own.

Plus no one will accept my request to join r/munchausensbyinternet :(

Yeh my bad I confused you with some else I think.
You were the one in the autobot thread who pointed out that the rules lit say you can blog. & mbi was like ok we’ll change them but I’ll ban you anyway because you dared to say it lol. If I’ve got that right?

But there was a couple of other users who was crying that they were banned for blogging and i just assumed you were one of them. My bad.
 
Yeh my bad I confused you with some else I think.
You were the one in the autobot thread who pointed out that the rules lit say you can blog. & mbi was like ok we’ll change them but I’ll ban you anyway because you dared to say it lol. If I’ve got that right?

But there was a couple of other users who was crying that they were banned for blogging and i just assumed you were one of them. My bad.

Yeah that was me! Ya know, the person who knew the rules better than the actual moderators. I was wtf-ing afterwards because I didn't intend for them to change the rules to NO MENTIONING YOURSELF EVER VERBOTEN without ever, you know, asking the rest of the sub or anything. A long time ago on an account that I DFE'd due to it having waaaay too much personal info (HS me was dumb) I kept mentioning transparency but nothing ever seem to come of that....

oh well, munchies will munch on wherever I choose to chat about them
 
a rétard I know IRL who just got herself a shiny central line to kill herself with
I would LOVE to hear everything you know about her! I'm so interested in what she is like in person/how she differs from her IG persona (if at all)...I want the juice!!!! Were you ever friends? Oh, and is her voice really THAT fucking annoying in person? I swear, listening to her videos and stories and such is so painful. What does she even do with her life? Eat, drink sugar drinks, and lie about it so she can get the precious liquid gold? Is that it? Because I have never seen a picture of her outside of her fucking disgusting room. Her living habits look absolutely disgusting...like how does anyone live in a room looking like that? It seems like she spends every second of every day lying in bed surrounded by food and sugar-filled drinks. Does she ever wash her head linens? She looks like a hoarder, too. I'm surprised she even has a place to lay because her bed looks just like the rest of her unsanitary, dirty, grimy looking room. I just shudder thinking about her level of cleanliness. I would love to hear if you have any insight on that!!
 
I would LOVE to hear everything you know about her! I'm so interested in what she is like in person/how she differs from her IG persona (if at all)...I want the juice!!!! Were you ever friends? Oh, and is her voice really THAT fucking annoying in person? I swear, listening to her videos and stories and such is so painful. What does she even do with her life? Eat, drink sugar drinks, and lie about it so she can get the precious liquid gold? Is that it? Because I have never seen a picture of her outside of her fucking disgusting room. Her living habits look absolutely disgusting...like how does anyone live in a room looking like that? It seems like she spends every second of every day lying in bed surrounded by food and sugar-filled drinks. Does she ever wash her head linens? She looks like a hoarder, too. I'm surprised she even has a place to lay because her bed looks just like the rest of her unsanitary, dirty, grimy looking room. I just shudder thinking about her level of cleanliness. I would love to hear if you have any insight on that!!

i've posted a few things about her already but...

1) She changed a LOT over the years I knew her. When I first met her she was working crazy hours (two jobs at a time and worked like three weeks in a row without a day off) plus going through online pharma tech classes. She had one job in a hospital (i think environmental services/janitorial), worked at a candy shop, she worked for Old Navy a while, worked for Walgreens after she got her pharma tech certification. My first impression was that she was really driven if a little stunted. She was definitely and obviously anorexic and while we joke about the "worst case in New Jersey" the photos do not give away how terrifyingly thin she looked irl. She didn't complain much that I remember. After going to Renfrew Philadelphia she seemed like she just wanted to move on with her life and get back on her feet. Then maybe a year later she relapsed again and was sent to Nevada for treatment. When she came back she was a totally different person. This is when the health complaints started. The first thing I remember her complaining about other than ED-related pain, dizziness, and insomnia was fibromyalgia.

Oh, worth noting, her behavior change from focused anorexic to munchie whiner happened right around when her baby sister (who is quite a bit younger than her, like 6 years maybe?) graduated from a good university and moved to SE Asia to start an exciting job. Dani and her sister were really close and I've always wondered if that wasn't Dani's "oh shit I wasted my life" moment that made her desperate to make it not be her fault. Like people tend to see eating disorders as a moral failing but a "real" illness would be a more legitimate reason she was stuck at age 14 while her baby sister was off living her dream life. Could just be tinfoil there because it's not like she's the only ana-chan to move on to "I'm just really really physically ill now and can't eat, nothing to do with my eating disorder!" Also worth noting she has an aunt (?) who's also a munchie. She used to comment on her facebook all the time giving her advice on how to demand what she "needed" from doctors and stuff.

2) I wouldn't say we were ever "friends". She's really self-absorbed and hard to be friends with. She wouldn't remember anything you said from one conversation to the next because she didn't listen to or care what you had to say. It was all waiting for you to shut up so she could talk. I wouldn't have invited her over for dinner or something. She used to talk to me on social media a lot though.

3) Yes, her voice is that annoying IRL. That's not a character she puts on for the internet.

4) I haven't seen her in quite a while, but mostly she dicks around on the internet. Goes shopping with her mom and aunt (I think) once a week. Takes bullshit online classes and reads books for teenagers. Watches a LOT of netflix and youtube, especially chronic illness vloggers (shocking I know.) She was super obsessed with Jaquie when Jaquie was at her most popular and would constantly compare herself to Jaq's vlogs. Towards the end of when I lived near her she was going to ER several times per week and would even dress up and do makeup before she went as if she was going to dinner. She did go out a little but she doesn't have money to blow or friends to hang out with so her options are kind of limited.

5) Her apartment is tiny and imo poorly laid out. Public housing low-rise tower from the 1960s, they designed it so every unit had a balcony with sunlight but as a result every unit is also weirdly oriented and shaped. It's hard to keep a space like that clean to begin with, but she does collect a lot of crap. Borderline hoarder? She would keep old medicine bottles to make it look like she had tons of pills to take every day.* I don't know if she cleans her sheets regularly. She doesn't bathe herself regularly or do anything in the way of skincare. Her excuse when I knew her was she couldn't wash regularly because she didn't have a shower chair or a bath tub and she was afraid she'd pass out standing in the shower (because you can't sit on the floor of the shower apparently.) And the book hoard is newer. I don't remember books being a significant part of her life before. I actually remember her having a really short attention span for them. She didn't clean much and even when she did it was not... real clean? Like she would clear off her desk to do her meds but not wipe down the table so it would still have a layer of schmutz on it. Now remember that she was trying to get a service dog in that apartment. Augh.

(*IIRC she also used to put OTC meds and vitamins in them sometimes so it looked like she was taking a bunch of prescription pills when really it was like tylenol and vitamin C tablets. I distinctly remember seeing someone pull a pill out of a prescription bottle and immediately I recognized it was a tylenol capsule, the red and blue ones with the grey stripe down the middle. However I can't be sure it was Dani. It might have been Amanda/Ren because I seem to remember it was on an Instagram Live video and she used to do them like 4 times per night.)

Sarah-Jean's definitely going after EDS.

*She and EvilDad are switching living spaces within his house and about 1/3rd of the video is her shampooing a rug. Riveting.
*Despite that she has a SEVERE KNEE SUBLUX she bends down and stands back up a bunch of times with no difficulty.
* Eats a vegan grilled cheese sandwich with faux bacon while lipsyncing to Madonna.
*She and EvilDad are going to Hawaii for Christmas for 13 days and he bought her a bunch of camera gear. So evil, what a terrible parent.
*shows off some leg braces
*uses some kind of TENS unit on her knee. This is what's in the thumbnail.
*shows a PT exercise plan from 2018 claiming it's new
Save yourselves the 15 minutes of intense boredom.
 
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I dont see how these women can stand going to the hospital multiple times a week. I just had a recent trip down there after a long while and I quickly remember why I hated it, or generally why I remember why I hate doctors or people at hospitals in general.

Sure, theres an attention factor, but if you're really feeling bad, the last thing you want is to be smiles and prodded. Hell, even battery operated machines having to be swapped out had me so pissed I found myself cursing in front of the nurse, much to my dismay.
 
Sarah-Jean's definitely going after EDS.

*She and EvilDad are switching living spaces within his house and about 1/3rd of the video is her shampooing a rug. Riveting.
*Despite that she has a SEVERE KNEE SUBLUX she bends down and stands back up a bunch of times with no difficulty.
* Eats a vegan grilled cheese sandwich with faux bacon while lipsyncing to Madonna.
*She and EvilDad are going to Hawaii for Christmas for 13 days and he bought her a bunch of camera gear. So evil, what a terrible parent.
*shows off some leg braces
*uses some kind of TENS unit on her knee. This is what's in the thumbnail.
*shows a PT exercise plan from 2018 claiming it's new
Save yourselves the 15 minutes of intense boredom.

This is why I was coming and glad you covered it already!

Yes, she is indeed setting the stage. I think I saw a comment where someone suggested it and she passed it off as "nah, I don't have that and if I look into it people will just call me a munchie" (not exact quote but you get the gist). Next vlog will hopefully be an appointment with a doctor telling her she really needs to make that psych appointment! (again)


Edit: EvilDad sounds like an awful, horrendous person for taking her to Hawaii for THIRTEEN days. Terrible, terrible man and father!
Edit 2: Did anyone see her Vogmask collection video? Too boring to comment about....

I don't know how many would be threadworthy on their own. Although the one I'm working on honestly might, jesus christ it's taken me like 4 weeks to even skim her accounts and my intro post is already several thousands of words long.

I am so excited for this, you have no idea. Is it almost ready? I need a Christmas countdown or something!
 
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Her excuse when I knew her was she couldn't wash regularly because she didn't have a shower chair or a bath tub and she was afraid she'd pass out standing in the shower (because you can't sit on the floor of the shower apparently.

You can get proper shower stools/chairs off Amazon for dirty cheap. Such shitty excuses for stank.
 
Random thought but did anyone try to get the OP updated for this thread? I remember talking about it and saved that post as a bookmark but did anyone try to get it changed? I can’t remember how we get OPs changed? It would help with all the people jumping ship from IF asking about the people we post about.

Edit this was the post. Guess we’d add that chroniccarly is brochure anon now and that our sickbed princess has her own thread now.

I was thinking more along the lines of something like this:


A post with a sentence or two with a link to the post in the thread with all of the screenshots etc. @Kate Farms Shill has been great with posting these summaries, they are really helpful thank you!

Here is an example of #48 with the above list together, I think it would work better than the current OP.

The Basics:
Munchausen's Syndrome is a psychiatric disorder listed in the DSM. The disease causes the sufferer to draw attention or reassurance to themselves (whether this effort is conscious or not on the part of the sufferer is still debatable). It is named after the fictional character (who was loosely based n a real person) Baron Munchausen, who would frequently tell tall tales of his own struggles in life.

There are a couple of subcategories. These are "Munchausen's by Proxy" and "Munchausen's by Internet". This thread will focus on communities built by and for people who have this and asspat each other in online circlejerks instead of getting actual mental/medical help for the root of their issues.

Why Are They Also Called "Spoonies"?:
From lolcow.farm, "What Is A "Spoonie"?

People who identify as 'Spoonies' are referencing 'The Spoon Theory,' written by a woman with lupus to explain the chronic illness experience to a healthy friend who asked her what it really feels like to live with her medical problems.
https://butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory/

The 'Spoonie' Community is, in general, a legitimate supportive network for people dealing with chronic illness. In recent years, however, it has become polluted with SJW types and has attracted a new breed of attention-seeking catfish: people who lie about, fake having, and/or exaggerate existing medical problems and crises for no benefit other than to garner attention.

Links:
current /snow/ thread
Wikipedia Page on Munchausen's by Internet
Time Magazine Article
Guardian Article
Reader's Digest Article
the Stranger Article
Website about the Disease (Written by Psychiatrist Dr. Mark Feldman)
http://www.rd.com/health/conditions/munchausen-syndrome-by-internet/
Examples:
Kadeelyn Konstantino, was possibly the most famous lolcow to come from this community. She died early in 2017 from an undisclosed cause, possibly related to her often inaccurate diagnoses.

Belle Gibson is an Australian woman who was covered in a Guardian piece after being caught faking a battle against Cancer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_Gibson


Here is an alphabetical directory of people who are discussed in this thread:

Abby/Abby Cappleman/Abby the Aspienaut: Has her own thread. Autism/EDS faker and service dog sperg who throws a scene at any business who doesn't let her pet Shih Tzu come in with her. Parents know she's full of shit.

Amanda Baggs: Has her own thread. was a gifted but weird teenager, did a lot of drugs, now claims to have severe, non-verbal autism and gastroparesis that requires a PEG-j despite being enormous. Wears her dead dad's clothes. Actually has PCOS and a healthy beard to prove it.

Amanda/Ren: Only sometimes comes up here, usually by IF veterans. Fakes literally every disease she hears of, poorly. Her own family constantly tells her to quit her bullshit.

Amanda/Skinwalker: Former Jaquie acolyte, anorexic, munchie combo plus Guillain-Barre Syndrome. Used to copy Jaquie to a terrifying degree until Jaquie tried to steal GBS from her.

Amy/Chronically Amy: anorexic, exceedingly stupid Jaquie-clone nursing student. Once claimed to have CF and be terminal but dropped that lie. GFM scammer.

Amy Lee Fisher/Chronically Ams: EDS/POTS/GP/MCAS and hypokalemic periodic paralysis faker on TPN who likes to purge through her tubes and then drink champagne and eat burgers when no one's looking. Shoops herself skinny.

Anelise/Tina/ts.fight: super duper anorexic, often suicide baits, claims the typical munchie combo platter, fucks with all her tubes and lines.

Anna/Ginge/Fit Vegan Ginger: Has her own thread. jesus freak skelly who claims to have cystic fibrosis and just got an ostomy. Formerly known for making absolutely atrocious low calorie vegan foods that Kiwis had a fun time making and torturing ourselves and our loved ones with.

Anqi/Angie/Skagra: has her own thread. Claims complex regional pain syndrome after falling down some stairs and is totally bedbound and will DIE IF YOU DON'T DONATE TO HER RIGHT NOW. Inactive.

Ash/Ashley Isaacs/Lich Queen: Has her own thread. not a munchie. Just a hardcore anorexic who refuses to die or seek help. Used only as an example of how much abuse a human body can take. Do not feel pity for her as she is a hateful human being who sabotages other ana-chans' recovery efforts and was so insufferable her mother moved across the country to get away from her.

Aubs/Aubrey's Lyme Journey: has her own thread; Lyme/cancer/EDS/GP faker. inactive.

Cassie/CassieMNolin: former godawful ballerina, claims the combo platter plus complex regional pain syndrome, also claims to have recurring bouts of amnesia that cause her to forget her husband and have to "fall in love with him all over again." Had a party when she got her port.

Christine/SickbedPrincess: has lupus her stupid doctors are too dumb and mean to diagnose. Obsessed with Victorian-era tragic suffering, purple prose, downvoted to oblivion wherever she posts. Inactive/scared off the internet.

Courtney/ChronicallyCourt: has her own thread; gerson therapy idiot, claims a vaccine gave her Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome which is not how genetics do. Tried to make a very sick puppo be her service dog.

Dani/LifeofDani/ChronicallyDani: legitimately re.tarded former anorexic, drug-seeker, fakes gastroparesis, POTS, fibromyalgia, et al and now Rheumatoid Arthritis. Inserted her own NG tubes that she bought off the internet because her doctors wouldn't tube her. Chimps out if you question anything she does. Inactive/scared off the internet.

Jan/the raw life: Jaquie's best friend turned Single White Female. In control of Jaquie's social media.

Janeye/servicedogcolt: has her own thread. Primarily fakes epilepsy, famous for taking selfies of what looks like chocolate pudding coming out of her mouth and claiming it's blood. Superficially sliced her head open and stapled it back together to make it look like she had a craniotomy. GFM scammer.

Jaquie/ChronicallyJaquie. Former queen of the munchies, now rendered to ash after she munched herself to death. Has her own thread, inactive/dead.

Julian/thedisabledhippie: FTM transgendered former BFF of Jaquie, claims all the same disorders Jaquie did but also demyelinating polyneuropathy. Julian and Jaquie traded diagnoses like baseball cards when they were friends.

Kat/KatVonWheels: went from skinny to morbidly obese and married to divorced in the same time frame, all because she wanted to be on TPN but also to continue to eat junk food. Bought a hospital bed for her house.

KaydeeLynn: has her own thread but she's dead. Morbidly obese anorexic, faked the most insane crises ever like multiple pulmonary emboli and a coma, but her family would confirm she was on the couch eating cheetos while she claimed this. Died of a heroin overdose while trying to make it seem like she was a hardcore addict for internet sympathy.

Katy/ Invisiblei/ invidisible Katy: Asbergers and Fibromyalgia, welsh chronic illness Youtuber, used to post a lot of videos about how to navigate the benefit system.
Kelly Carragher/Palette Face: Kaydee's friend. Anorexic, now claims to have hundreds of seizures per day unless she wants to go on vacation.

Kelly Ronahan/Vampire Kelly: has her own thread. DO NOT POST IN HER THREAD UNLESS YOU HAVE NEW CONTENT because she's fucking crazy and posts her dox/gossip all the time trying to bait us into talking about her. Used to drain her blood through her port to get transfusions, now picks at her necrotic legs and fakes Behcet's. Has a whole subplot about a satanic pimp who stalks her, forced her to eat a dog, and crazy glued her hand to her vagina.

Morgan/Morgan's Medical Journey: Claims to have "Brain on Fire" autoimmune encephalitis. Weirdly codependent relationship with her mother.

Nicole/JustbreatheNicole: admits she has a psychosomatic vomiting condition and has never lost weight from it, but needs a feeding tube anyway because therapy is hard. Inactive?

NinaJean/kittenbread: founded /r/Illnessfakers to hide the fact that she's a gigantic munchie herself. Screeches about disability access and tries to sue people to get into the papers.

Robyn Brown (better known as LifeUndiagnosed and HybermobileGeek) is a Munchie case that was once described by a lolcow.farm anon as "Kadeelyn on Steroids". She is a British woman who has been blogging about her supposed illnesses for years upon years, and frequently hops to a new alias once people catch on to her fakery and she loses her sweet asspats. She is likely to deserve her own spinoff thread in the near future.

Tara: dead as fuck and no1curr.

Tina: see Anelise

I added in the links for Belle Gibson and Katy because they were at the beginning of the thread. I don't know how to make the link from the word so I just spoilered Katy's links. I like the idea of the incubator list but it would require the OP to be updated regularly.

In the incubator as of May, 2019:
Carly/Chronicarly: athlete turned spoonie. Has a port between her tits for some reason. Likes to paint on her body for "awareness".

Janina/AssistanceDogAdventures: friends with Amy Lee Fisher. Service dog sperg. Walks out on any doctor that doesn't tell her exactly what she wants to hear.

Kiera/AdventuresofaZebraSpoonie: Has a list of diagnoses longer than your entire CV. Former ballerina. All the usual tubes and lines.

Victoria/Lemons 'n' Lyme: as the name suggests, "chronic lyme" sufferer. Tries to fix her non-existent health problems with a toxin-free existence.

Edited to add in an example for updating the OP for the thread. I don't want to flood the thread talking about this. Also apologies if I am stepping on anyone's toes here.
 
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Random thought but did anyone try to get the OP updated for this thread? I remember talking about it and saved that post as a bookmark but did anyone try to get it changed? I can’t remember how we get OPs changed? It would help with all the people jumping ship from IF asking about the people we post about.

Edit this was the post. Guess we’d add that chroniccarly is brochure anon now and that our sickbed princess has her own thread now.
must be an tard moment but was brochure anon a poster here or on reddit? the name is familiar but I can't remember
 
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