Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention


Thoughts on this family?

Wow this FB page is wild.

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I found a chronically ill person just randomly on YT the other day and I was struck by how normal she is. She's got this cute little 40's aesthetic and even though you'll see her occasionally with a brace or crutches or a wheelchair, she doesn't make her whole thing about that. She doesn't really like bringing attention to it. She has several diagnoses that she was gifted with by heredity, but you rarely ever see her looking ill. I believe she has HNPP, MCTD, CFS, and POTS. The only reason I really believe her is that she is partially deaf and I think blind in one eye or something like that. She talks about her illnesses, but never in a woe is me sort of way, but in a more educational kind of way. She never e-whores for money from what I can tell. She's married to a woman who seems very nice who works in the medical field. She's always put together and prepared for any problem without it looking like she's taken the entire damned hospital with her. She just seems like a nice, normal person who's getting on with it.

Let me know if any of you have heard of her and let me know if I'm missing something. I think at this point that if you're going to have a channel about being chronically ill then this is how you do it. Her name is

Jessica Kellgren-Fozard
She's actually adorable. I love when people can be positive despite their illness, I tend to see it more often than I have caught munchies in my life, so it's been pretty refreshing.

One thing I have to ask about when I do happen to come across a munchie on the net is, "when did their life get so bad they had to 'ree' for attention?" Do they not get it enough in their life? Is there some substantial factor that causes them to have to be overly verbose about everything and every detail?

To imagine, I've seen people actually get kicked around on the internet for not sharing 'enough' these days. It's refreshing to see something educational and kind of cute.
 
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What normal human feels sick and thinks, "You know what? I'm going to set up a camera so I can film this moment and edit it for the internet"? Anyone without munchiesque thought patterns only thinks about one thing: "I'M GONNA HURL." The amount of effort and thought she spent on uploading some barf on the 'gram seems like a pretty lousy way to waste her pReCiOuS eNeRgY.

I have never thought " gee, i should record this and share this" when i am about to puke. My thoughts are more like:

"I hope i make it to the toilet. Please God!

Please dont let me puke noodles on the wall again.

Thank god no one is here to hear me puke.

I am hideous and repulsive, my eyes are bugging out, please let me die here"

Those are my thought pre- puke. I hate for people to even hear me throw up. Once a bf went to the bathroom with me when i became suddenly ill ( damn tequila!) . I remember begging him to turn off the light and to not look upon me when i was in such a repulsive and wretched state.

I just cant imagine any situation in which videoing a puking session is warranted. I cant imagine anyone is interested in seeing it.
 
One thing I have to ask about when I do happen to come across a munchie on the net is, "when did their life get so bad they had to 'ree' for attention?"

As far as I’ve seen, BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder) is hugely common among munchies. Some of the major BPD behaviors are needs for attention, intense fear of betrayal, emotionally attaching yourself to people, not understanding boundaries.. So basically the reason they munch. I’ve seen many munchies profess themselves that they have BPD, but I bet if they did a study they’d find a link. Imo it seems to fit in perfectly with their need for social media and IRL attention, affection and care/babying by hospital staff and all of the people in their lives. As well as their abuse of others to get what they want, thinking they are “natural empaths” but really are the most selfish people. I’m not saying all people with BPD have all of those negative traits but the behavior patterns seem to line up. It’s a theory, anyway.
 
This 8 Crazy Shanks family (seriously what kind of name is that?) is a unique blend of absurdity. They've just moved out of their house due to mold issues (fair enough - mold is mold), and they've just solicited 10k in donations from the public and are now roadtripping "out west" in a CAMPER. Picture it: eight humans living full time in a camper smaller than the size of an average living room. And at least two kids use wheelchairs. I can't wrap my head around it. How does it work logistically? Where does everyone sleep? Is it like a sardine can? How does healthcare work? I have questions.
 
Too lazy to quote the multiple posts about Jessica, but I love her. She’s one of the few disabled/chronically ill “influencers” I tolerate. She makes Deaf and disabled people look normal, too, which is nice.

A lot of us actually live normal lives that aren’t “omg look at me I’m so sick I need a feeding tube because I shoved my fingers down my throat here’s proof so you can see how sick I am” and “here’s my hot pink wheelchair and service dog dressed in neon gear but don’t look at us please she’s working.” She’s one of the good ones. Sure she’s sometimes a little bit extra, but she’s not nearly as bad as a lot of these girls with their outright lies. She has the conditions she claims to have... and she has an adorable dog.
 

Thoughts on this family?

Attaching some of the posts that I felt were off-kilter. Are the diagnoses she is talking about actual conditions that the children likely have? They’ve been surviving off donations from other people for awhile. If you look at the fb page there are videos of the kids experiencing the tics/spells she talks about.
Are they inbred? Hills Have Eyes tier.
 
This 8 Crazy Shanks family (seriously what kind of name is that?) is a unique blend of absurdity. They've just moved out of their house due to mold issues (fair enough - mold is mold), and they've just solicited 10k in donations from the public and are now roadtripping "out west" in a CAMPER. Picture it: eight humans living full time in a camper smaller than the size of an average living room. And at least two kids use wheelchairs. I can't wrap my head around it. How does it work logistically? Where does everyone sleep? Is it like a sardine can? How does healthcare work? I have questions.
When munchie grift and Christian grift overlap!
 

Thoughts on this family?

Attaching some of the posts that I felt were off-kilter. Are the diagnoses she is talking about actual conditions that the children likely have? They’ve been surviving off donations from other people for awhile. If you look at the fb page there are videos of the kids experiencing the tics/spells she talks about.
So ok, applying basic scientific reasoning to this person's story, it's highly unlikely she is being truthful/non-delusional:

1. All FIVE kids...all five of them...got horribly ill at once? Not with a simple virus, but with an array of terrible disabling freak occurrence illnesses?

2. Some of the diseases she names off are not exactly real or are commonly diagnosed mostly by naturopathic hacks (like the mold toxicity thing...yes, it's possible to get poisoned by mold, but when some crazy who lives in a van says her kids have mold toxicity, it was diagnosed by a quack.)

3. Doctors are clearly not buying what she's selling, as in the second cap.

4. She is seeking the typical munchie swag like IVIG and fancy wheelchairs and extreme makeover home edition gimmes.

5. The thing with the kids "not breathing" is really alarming, as smothering and drowning are two common mom-specific methods of homicide. So...
 
So ok, applying basic scientific reasoning to this person's story, it's highly unlikely she is being truthful/non-delusional:

1. All FIVE kids...all five of them...got horribly ill at once? Not with a simple virus, but with an array of terrible disabling freak occurrence illnesses?

2. Some of the diseases she names off are not exactly real or are commonly diagnosed mostly by naturopathic hacks (like the mold toxicity thing...yes, it's possible to get poisoned by mold, but when some crazy who lives in a van says her kids have mold toxicity, it was diagnosed by a quack.)

3. Doctors are clearly not buying what she's selling, as in the second cap.

4. She is seeking the typical munchie swag like IVIG and fancy wheelchairs and extreme makeover home edition gimmes.

5. The thing with the kids "not breathing" is really alarming, as smothering and drowning are two common mom-specific methods of homicide. So...

She seems to be trying to provide a counterclaim to the trope of the kids who hold their breath during a temper tantrum. But if doctors just shrug it off, it sounds like it's "my kids choose not to breathe" and not "my kids can't breathe." Her wording is really weird on this.

Also worth note: This kid looks like he's being held against his will. I don't blame him for wanting to take breaks from breathing in the crazy.
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ETA: It also seems that "Chiari" was thrown into the mix at some point, though I don't see any signs of it elsewhere. From what I understand, Chiari is one of those things that people tend to do a lot of doctor shopping to be diagnosed and to have surgery. Also note that "ALL of her siblings started falling ill with frightening neurological problems." All of them, guys. Go big or go home...to your RV.
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okay i just now got a chance to watch this and I know we're all laughing at her justifying purging in order to claim she has gastroparesis but her fake shakey/wobbly legs when she stands up are like chronically.court levels of bad acting. Girl. Give it up. No one fucking believes you.
She addressed the person who made the comment on why she was sticking her finger down her throat and wiping her finger: "So I just blocked them. I was like, 'Okay, you might be one of those people who are just undercover looking at what they call 'munchies.'"

Ah, yes, Sarah-Jean. Break that fourth wall. Witness us.
 
She addressed the person who made the comment on why she was sticking her finger down her throat and wiping her finger: "So I just blocked them. I was like, 'Okay, you might be one of those people who are just undercover looking at what they call 'munchies.'"

Ah, yes, Sarah-Jean. Break that fourth wall. Witness us.
Isn't she getting a bit old for this shit? She's like 10 years older than most spoonies featured on here. I can't imagine failing to effectively play sick into your mid thirties is particularly rewarding.
 
What's KF philosophy on cowtipping? @amelioratingmylife has been on a slow burning rant over IG stories the past few days after someone linked her to the posts about her on here and has since been replying (and I think deleting?) questions on tellonym re her faking.

Y'all, this shit already got @beyond.bendy to nuke everything. All this cowtipping is BS that'll just give her evidence of people being cruel without cause, instead of actually criticising her for the questionable shit she does
 
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