Containment Official Decision Regarding Gender and Chris/Gender Discussion Megathread

I don't buy Chris being a woman because he doesn't understand women at all and his concept of what a woman is is extremely cartoony and molded almost exclusively by TV shows, he is just a dumbass playing dress up who repeated to himself how he hated even his own dick in a childish attempt to come up as straighter than straight until he ended up brainwashing himself.


But if I think about it... all of that applies about Chris as a man and his particular brand of cartoony 'masculinity' back in the day too...
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Chris gender is simply "fucking 'tard" I guess.
 
I don't buy Chris being a woman because he doesn't understand women at all and his concept of what a woman is is extremely cartoony and molded almost exclusively by TV shows, he is just a dumbass playing dress up who repeated to himself how he hated even his own dick in a childish attempt to come up as straighter than straight until he ended up brainwashing himself.


But if I think about it... all of that applies about Chris as a man and his particular brand of cartoony 'masculinity' back in the day too...
:thinking:

Chris gender is simply "fucking 'tard" I guess.

Nailed it.
 
Given Reddit's largely liberal community, I'm surprised they actually voted for that.
They're discussing Chris, like we do. That alone would be frowned upon by most liberals. I think it's not that unreasonable to assume they're somewhat similar to the members of KF.
 
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I still think of him as a him. I know he identifies otherwise and if it were anyone else I'd give them the respect of refering to them with whichever they perfer. But for all we know he could just be crossdressing because no straight girls will fuck him so maybe lesbians will, knowing Chris it's probably just another bizzare attempt at getting laid.
 
Isn't this the sort of thing that can get you smacked down for wrongthink on Reddit?

all day every day reddit's fempire defends transtrenders like they're an endangered species hunted for their blue and green pelts.

we only enforced the rule one time though as an excuse to get rid of Drunekndragon/DarkSeed/IronHeart. the rest of the time it just gave bitches something to bitch about. the butthurt was fun.

the procedure for banning a mis-ms.-genderer was longer than 2 sentences, so the average redditor couldn't follow the instructions. out of 3000 users we only had about 5 people having fun with it, commenting "ban" like we asked. everyone else was clutching their pearls and making sure they were seen objecting to our disregard of civil rights n shit.

the dumbest by far were complaining they wanted DrunkenDragon banned and complaining about the "she" ban at the same time. there were 3 of these...
https://old.reddit.com/r/ChrisChanSonichu/comments/a2b4zi/luvshak214_paid_me_200/eb1hwfx/

i spelled it out for them and only 1 of them finally went, "i can get him banned?!"
 
Given Reddit's largely liberal community, I'm surprised they actually voted for that.

they didn't. :)
reddit's vote algorithm puts more weight on upvotes. they think it helps negate vote brigades organized offsite. it changes as posts get older but generally, in a sub this size, a downvote is only -1/5th a vote in the 1st 12 hours of a post.

the vote was really "Disagree" by a landslide for the 1st week and a half.
after 2 weeks it was barely a tie.
 
I'm sorta stuck in the middle when it comes to the issue.
I honestly think Chris is using this to get sympathy, like he did with his autism in the past. Yet, I feel like he has had trouble with his own identity and figuring out who he really is and what his desires are beyond his childish viewpoint. He hates men. There must be some disdain then for himself, thus his transition being a way to escape rather than what he feels his true gender should have been.

How he defines a man or a woman calls back to what Chrus Chundlur stated,
his concept of what a woman is is extremely cartoony and molded almost exclusively by TV shows, he is just a dumbass playing dress up who repeated to himself how he hated even his own dick in a childish attempt to come up as straighter than straight until he ended up brainwashing himself.


But if I think about it... all of that applies about Chris as a man and his particular brand of cartoony 'masculinity' back in the day too...

Men can be effeminate, women can be masculine. Gender identity is more of a grey area than the more black and white biological sex. I don't think Chris really understands and is basing his identity off of influences from others. But hey, I don't know how his mind works. Maybe he really has gender dysphoria.
 
From time to time, I'll throw on a Chris-classic playlist and put it on random, just to vary it up and see how much he's changed versus how little he's progressed. This one from the Calling Out series popped up and it's an amazing coincidence (timestamped at 5:36):
Transcript from the Cwcki:
And I cannot be changed. So I would- so I would say, good luck being a fake woman because you'll never be able to achieve true femdom! And you'll always be a dang homosexual male, 'cuz you're born that way, you gonna to stay that way pretty much even if you're gonna- if you're gonna have your dick either chopped off or tucked in! People are still gonna look at you so ill. In the majority of this country.
It actually feels like he's talking to his future self and not just stinkditch-Phil.

Fast forward to 2018, and ADF did chop his dick off, and Chris now tucks his dick in. It's a wonderful life after all.
 
I'm pretty sure the APA still officially uses the WPATH model, which has extensive gatekeeping.



This isn't nearly the smoking gun that you think it is. Chris has no problem doing a 180 and bragging about things he hates, simply because he thinks it'll get him ahead in life. The critical element is that he's able to disassociate himself from whatever it is affecting him personally.

Like you could probably get him to brag about how high the fires of his house fire burned, in the right circumstances.

When Chris is alone, one on one, just him and his penis, it viscerally bothers him because it reminds him he's a man. That's dysphoria.

I think how Chris behaves when he's alone says a lot more about how genuine his dysphoria about his penis is.

So for example, remember how Chris rigged up that strap-on harness to hide his penis because the mere sight of it would bother him? I think that's a lot more interesting than how Chris behaves when he's on a stage, performing like a dancing monkey.

I think people are overconfident about their reasons for not taking Chris' transitioning seriously.

Ultimately, if Chris actually has gender dysphoria, autism, along with the fact that he performs on a stage (thus nothing he says publicly is said in good faith), is going to make him behave unpredictably. You shouldn't take Chris seriously that he's proud of his dick any more than you should take Chris seriously when he says he's starving and needs money for nutritious bananas. He's trying to get something out of you.

We simply cannot pick apart what's autism / dishonesty and what's genuine dysphoria from our vantage point, and I think it's overconfidence that makes people think otherwise.

Though I will say, I also never was in the camp to assume Greta's transitioning was illegitimate. Now, I'm sure they doctor shopped and shoved their way through, but just because the system is flawed, doesn't mean we should assume she's full of shit, by default. Nor should we assume that, because she's a loud, shitty person, that she's not trans. Heh, trans people can be shitheads too.

I only reserve that for the most blatant scammers who don't even try to pass. There's a spectrum of tranny legitimacy, with Brianna Wu at one end (for all her weird shit, she has her story and she sticks to it) and people like Jonathan "Jessica" Yaniv at the other, and a vast gulf of question marks in between.

On average, genuine GID is more common in autistic populations than neurotypical. There’s a high comorbidity with women with the ‘tism in particular—many are FTM or have a general vague sense of discomfort in their bodies, or a mild form of “human body dysphoria.” Some men have this too, whether MTF or in a similar “human body dysphoria.” (It’s more noticeable/common in women, and the prevailing theory at the moment revolves around “extreme male brain theory.”

Autistic people in general just can’t grasp reality and it overwhelms them, whether through sensory overload or OCD. Many aspies describe themselves as feeling like aliens, robots, or “unreal.” While not part of an official doagnosis, dissociation is incredibly common. Basically autistic people on average feel like miswired meat puppets. A second scrolling through the wrong planet forums shows throws of people talking about a general “human” dysphoria.

tl;dr: CWC, like many (if not most) autists has a deep disconnect and discomfort from the human body itself. Thinking about gender on a nuanced level is difficult for non autists, let alone someone as tenuously high functioning as CWC. Chris likely doesn’t even have the capacity to understand dysphoria on that level, as it would require him to have a realized concept of his body in relationship to his surroundings, like a “human dysphoria,” which many, many autistic people talk about at length as feeling like an alien, or a robot. He has no real sense of self essentially.
 
Never say never. Chris is completely unrecognizable from when he was discovered in 2007. Nobody thought he would ever self harm himself and then he did. Nobody could believe that Chris actually thought cartoon characters were real and his friends, but here we are.

Despite what he may claim and disguise he may put on, Chris is still a man.

I don't believe for one moment but he's ever truly given up wanting a pretty girlfriend who does everything for him.
 
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