Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Zero Day Defense]

He is some kind of hippy jesus lower, not a real christian.


Some song and dance is no Sunday service, those services are very strictly regulated.
do it right or dont do it at all, working is better than a wrong service.

He's Evangelical, I'm pretty sure, and the Evangelical movement definitely had a hippie phase as they erroneously believed that the secular's issue with Christianity was that it presented as organized religion and the solution was to eschew organization and make a false dichotomy between religion and lifestyle by misinterpreting what the former means.

All that to say is that he does what he knows (or knows best). We can argue the particular merits of the Evangelical mindset and praxis, but that's putting the cart before the horse when it's clear that people take umbrage with him even identifying and operating-- if even only superficially-- as Christian, because they have very clear contempt for Christianity and by extension, Christians.

 

[Son of Sparda 84]

I know this is sad subject and its honestly more serious than any BS KickVic shenanigans but holy this sounds like sappy Shojo manga

Also here's Marchi TCPA

https://kiwifarms.st/attachments/2019-07-19_tcpamotiontodismiss-pdf.850379/

 

[TJ-Weber]

He's Evangelical, I'm pretty sure, and the Evangelical movement definitely had a hippie phase as they erroneously believed that the secular's issue with Christianity was that it presented as organized religion and the solution was to eschew organization and make a false dichotomy between religion and lifestyle by misinterpreting what the former means.

All that to say is that he does what he knows (or knows best). We can argue the particular merits of the Evangelical mindset and praxis, but that's putting the cart before the horse when it's clear that people take umbrage with him even identifying and operating-- if even only superficially-- as Christian, because they have very clear contempt for Christianity and by extension, Christians.

I think it was mentioned earlier in the thread, but their particular form antagonism towards Christianity is a throwback
to the Bush era reaction against conservative Christians. The anime industry seems to be trapped in 2008 culture.

 

[Crazedking]

So we finally have all 3 TCPA down. I guess another week of Nick reading the TCPAs.

Will this train finally slow down? Is BHBH gonna release more of their info?

See you all in the next episode of Dragon cucks Z.

 

[Botchy Galoop]

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[UA 674]

Most (not all) women are dumb, childlike, short sighted, petty, creatures who act 100% on emotion and cause huge swaths of destruction in one's life.. Rent, don't buy.

Most women on the internet. Women you can see in real life regularly tend to have their head on straight, you only notice the stupid ones more than the cool ones while you're browsing online.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

Wow, that's certainly... a take.

While I find the allegations of sexual assault from clowns like Rial and Marchi to be highly dubious at best, I don't find any reason to question the credibility of Vic's ex-fiance particularly when in his responses to her he doesn't even deny a single thing she says about him.

You are right about one thing, though. It all could have been avoided with a simple discussion. One in which Vic says to his girlfriend and then fiance "hey, while I go on tour I bang lots of women and hire prostitutes, does that bother you?", but he didn't. He hid it from her. And he didn't hide it from her because he cared about her, he hid it from her because she was his long-term bang that cleaned the house, cooked his meals and catered to his every whim. He wasn't preserving her immediate feelings, he was a coward that didn't want to have to choose between having a stable and honest relationship with her or banging convention groupies that were nothing to him but weekend ass. When it comes to Vic's relationship with Michele, Vic comes across as a deceitful asshole. I'm pretty sure that the only thing she'd have been wrong about was believing Vic when he said he was committed to their relationship.

I think the thing you missed here, is that they're both at fault.

You got to see a lot of Vic's demons because Michelle vomited out all of her side of the story. There are always multiple sides to a relationship, and emotions are complex.

It's easy to write someone off as an asshole, and you'd be wrong. Michelle is just as deceitful as Vic in this scenario, because she isn't owning any of her part in this. That's not saying Vic is completely clean sheet in this, just saying it's dirtier than one may think it is.

I've seen these issues in countless couples. Yes, men and women may think/handle things differently to a degree, but at the end of the day, human nature is universal.

At the end of it, they were incompatible personalities and weren't going to work together. If people want to be angry about that who aren't involved in the relationship, they should probably spend some time looking at their own flaws, because if it stirs up emotion in you, it's likely because you're seeing something that you don't like within yourself that you should probably deal with.

 

[P5Fever]

Most women on the internet. Women you can see in real life regularly tend to have their head on straight, you only notice the stupid ones more than the cool ones while you're browsing online.

Sad pathetic twats come online looking for attention and bully others because they don’t seem to realize people have long grown out of their Mean Girls High School movie phase. Maybe if they had real jobs or went outside more often they’d learn some perspective about the world. Instead they want to stick their head in the sand of “safe spaces” because being wrong for once in your life is earth shattering and needs to be canceled. They refuse to go outside their comfort zone because that’s triggering apparently.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Most women on the internet. Women you can see in real life regularly tend to have their head on straight, you only notice the stupid ones more than the cool ones while you're browsing online.

They are easy to spot as their go-to move is to pull the "as a woman" mommy blogger bullshit.

Normal people just make their point and let it stand on its own merits. The reader doesn't know or care what their chromosomes are. Unless they are in are hugbox.

 

[N1bbaN3rd]

What are the odds these TCPAs will actually pass? I was hoping to watch a bloodbath 8 months down the road. Would be a shame if all this was dismissed...

Nick has stated that Funimation probably has the best chance of winning on TCPA, which I'm inclined to agree with.
However, as more and more info about the Funimation show trial investigation of Vic starts to trickle out, their case is also beginning to look a bit shaky.

 

[KittyLoaf]

I've shifted to thinking that Jamie Marchi has the best case for winning on TCPA. Though, her's is still shaky. Vic's deposition and whatever Ty's been working on ... Nick's allusions to something brewing ... makes me think FUNi's about to be hammered to the wall.

Just a gut feeling.

 

[GeneralMint]

If Vic isn't a real christian, then these accusers are not real feminists.

Christians, for the most part, get really pissed when atheists start pointing out stuff they consider non-Christian. If the defense does that in front of a jury, they're going to have a whole new hurdle.

 

[troondetector]

Are you sure? I heard a dozen sort of lawyers tell me it's literally impossible to have reckless disregard for the truth.

It is incredibly difficult, but Toye being a fucking moron really helps with that.

Toye not bothering to confirm the identities of anyone on a forum called pretty ugly little liars and just electing to believe anonymous internet postings from it without making any attempt to verify that it's even more than one person goes beyond negligent. Publishing based wholely on unverified anonymous testimony is actually one of the few things that get you there. Now you could say Toye's publishings weren't based wholely upon that, but he has made other statements that are (100s of wamen, relies on that.). His little I do not recall spiel also means he can't claim to have believed them 100% at the time of publishing. He can say he believes them now, but that's not all that matters.

I suspect that will be enough to overcome actual malice, at least for the purposes of the TCPA. I could certainly be 100% wrong.

For Monica, since Vic's position is that she's currently lying about their alleged encounter in a hotel room, maintaining the lie would probably be to be knowingly and willfully lying. His claims that Marchi is lying are a little less solid because it's more interpretive of a root event that both people claim happened.

I think Marchi wins her TCPA. Funi is a toss up. I think Monica might have the worst shot at TCPA actually. Since Vic is alleging that she's lying, her alleged lying would be knowing and willful unless she's insane. Ron probably loses his for being a complete dumbass and admitting that he used anonymous sourcing froma forum with liars in the title, believed it unquestioningly, and proceeded to prevent himself from being able to claim he believed them 100% at the time he published them.

 

[MildlyAmused]

March 1st Ty tweets the now infamous "We will be in touch"
March 14th "several months before any of this became public" (according to Teresa) Specht sends an email to Vic that reads more like a public statement to fans and followers than a genuine heartfelt correspondence. Even when you are disgusted and angry and over someone there would still be emotion in written words, not a spewing of data.

It was prepared and sent in preparation for this lawsuit. They knew they would get it included in the testimony so no better way to make it defame further than make it 2 pages long and include all the dirt you can muster. Yet they screech that Vic is attempting to "grind women into the dirt" Guess it's ok when women grind men, their reputations and careers into the dirt though.

From Specht herself they were in a relationship for 12 years. These trangressions span a lot of time. This was not just in the last month of their engagement. If all of it is true, she has every right to be pissed at Vic. But she should also be angry at herself for staying in a relationship like that. Her email reads like she knew about most of these incidents and forgave over and over again. Your bad Michele. Probably where the bulk of her anger comes from....the fact she couldn't change and "fix" Vic. I also wonder how come these Vic rumours that have been circulating for "decades" and are known by "everyone in the anime community"...how did Michele not hear them prior to beginning a relationship with Vic? Her and Monica have the same selective hearing I guess.

Last point is her own statements in the email. They met at a con, spent hours together that weekend, and then right after began a long term relationship. Then goes on to complain about Vic meeting people at cons and then doing the dirty. I guess considering he picked her up at a con with a terrible pick up line maybe she should've been a bit more careful in jumping into a relationship with him. There's no doubt in my mind he's a man whore....but who the fuck cares? That isn't illegal. All these women thinking they're the special ones and then get mad when they're not. Get some self esteem girls.

 

[Nontransferable]

It's obviously Ayers. Gay man who has a problem with Vic because of his faith even though Vic has been on record defending gay people. Whodathunk.

I thought so too, but there's nothing in the TCPA from Greg Ayers.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I've shifted to thinking that Jamie Marchi has the best case for winning on TCPA. Though, her's is still shaky. Vic's deposition and whatever Ty's been working on ... Nick's allusions to something brewing ... makes me think FUNi's about to be hammered to the wall.

Just a gut feeling.

It also helps that Jamie Marchies lawyer is not an arrogant spastic who assumed he was going to get a huge payday out of this.

 

[troondetector]

Most women on the internet. Women you can see in real life regularly tend to have their head on straight, you only notice the stupid ones more than the cool ones while you're browsing online.

I don't even think it'd be most women on *the internet* it's just the shrieking ones saying dumb shit desperate for attention are more likely to be encountered than a normal person just posting about their daily lives occasionally. Their social media reach gives a disproportionate impression of their numbers. A dumb thott with 100k followers vs a normal woman with 100 is getting a thousand times the exposure.

Don't get me wrong, shrieking harpy numbers are certainly rising due to indoctrination in college (and sooner now) and the increased focus on victimhood culture, but I still don't think it's the norm. It's just something narcissists gravitate to, and they'd be narcissists regardless anyway. I genuinely believe social media is giving society an increased predilection to narcissism, which causes those people to collectively champions broken ideologies that insists disputing their lies or daring to question their stories is an attack or form of violence.

 

[Teignmouth Electron]

It also helps that Jamie Marchies lawyer is not an arrogant spastic who assumed he was going to get a huge payday out of this.

It's amazing that of all the people involved on the KV side, Jamie turned out to have the best legal judgment.

 

[troondetector]

It's amazing that of all the people involved on the KV side, Jamie turned out to have the best legal judgment.

I suspect Jamie is the most practical of them who has actually had to hustle in life a bit. I suspect when actual consequences came into play her first priority became making sure she wasn't part of them rather than public sympathy and trying to further smear Vic.

Nick has stated that Funimation probably has the best chance of winning on TCPA, which I'm inclined to agree with.
However, as more and more info about the Funimation show trial investigation of Vic starts to trickle out, their case is also beginning to look a bit shaky.

Nick changed his assessment to Marchi having the best chance.

 

[mindlessobserver]

It's amazing that of all the people involved on the KV side, Jamie turned out to have the best legal judgment.

He's a strip mall attorney whose practice is similar to Nicks. He represents people who got DUI's, arrested for shoplifting, petty assaults etc. Basically he has alot of experience with clients who are Fucked with a capital "F". Monica and Ron went online and went to find some slick corporate lawyers with fancy office buildings and expensive "super lawyer" credentials. That type of Attorney is fine...if you are willing to blow through 100,000 dollars in the span of a few months. They are able to pull on tremendous assets to get you out of trouble. But Monica and Ron can't pay for those services so they are getting the absolute bare fucking minimum effort out of their attorneys.