Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Random Internet Person]

She said that she didn't try to get Vic replaced for Super Broly but in one of her tweets she said she and Sabat tried to

Is that where we got the rumor that Toei hand picked Vic for Broly? And that that this is all a temper tantrum over Toei putting their foot down?

 

[CBBD]

She said that she didn't try to get Vic replaced for Super Broly but in one of her tweets she said she and Sabat tried to

Twitter has an advanced search feature if you search anything and then go to the left hand side of the screen after it loads btw, lets you search by dates, names, replying to, hashtags, keywords, etc. Search filters > show > advanced search.

She must have deleted it though because the most recent time she even mentions the name Sabat is in 2018. As well as the most recent time she mentioned Broly was early January and it wasnt about kickvic.

 

[AnOminous]

Most messy break ups result in women throwing all sorts of claims about, her reactions are perfectly normal albeit bitter and mean.

So is a man murdering his ex. The fact that people are understandably angry at a breakup, especially after the ex did some fairly shitty things, doesn't excuse literally anything they do afterwards.

 

[ShaggyDawg]

Well the thread is finally over 2000 pages. Mazel tov to you glorious autistic bastards

Also seems the Twitter brigade have been back pedaling after Stan's affidavit. We went from "Stan knows everything, you see? There was a witness so it was real" to "pssht well of course he wouldn't remember, it was 12 years ago" (just like to point out that if a story like this ever came out, I'm pretty sure you'd remember a woman looking distressed in a hotel room) to "Monica never said that Stan saw the incident"



Anyone want to highlight the portion of Monica's depo or statement where she said that Stan saw the distress in her face for her?

I'm sorry....but I'm beginning to have some doubts. There are many testimonies in here. Three could be lying, yeah, but ALL of them?

I will say Kara's bothers me because if he scared you so much, why did you agree to audition for STC? He scares you and harassed you every time you saw him yet you're gonna use him to further your acting career? Yeah, I don't buy that one.

But the handlers talking about his behavior. Why would they lie?

I just don't know. Michele claims someone who was underage when vic slept with her told her. Many people have come to her. Her letter is the most damning.

I don't feel safe airing my doubts anywhere else. Can I here? Is this a safe place for me to do so?

I'm very upset to the point of tears. I suffer from depression and this is really taking me out right now..

Jesus Tits, you need to relax a little bit. Unless you're named in the suit, you don't have anything to worry about.

Unplug and have a Fresca.

I feel you dude, I really do. When this case first started out I felt the same and thought to myself "oh well, another guy is a sex offender" then I saw people asking questions and making good points against the accusers. I think the nail in the coffin that made me think that maybe that people were making a bigger deal of things than is should be was around the time that schemmel and heart reported fake swats.

The perspective you need to look at it is basically, people were OK with it at the time, it's only when they look back at it, do they think something might be wrong. There are different factors that affect this. Maybe it's your perception of things (For example, in some cultures having a polygamous marriage is a considered normal and ok for some religious reason, whilst to people on the outside it just looks the person is a deviant of some sort). Maybe it's for clout or envy or jealous or revenge. Maybe it's a facade, to make it look like you've always been the "Christian virgin angel" you are now and like you weren't gobbling dick behind the bleachers like a fat guy at a hot dog eating contest.

People Lie.

It's an unfortunate reality we have to come to terms with today. It's fine to have these doubts. The best thing to do is to review the case. Who is accusing who of what and what evidence is there to support their claims. Whose stories are constant and unchanging. Note their reactions to certain questions and statements.

Most importantly, there is no reason to pick a side. The farms are here for debate. If there was actually any evidence to back up these claims that were made, the farms would be tearing Vic a new one as well. At the end of the day, we all just want justice. If vic is a predator and rapist, let him rot in jail, but if he isn't, he doesn't deserve all of what's been done to him.

 

[Garm]

This is unnecessarily damaging to the dignity of Jar Jar.

That feeling when you're such a sad human being that Jar Jar could look down on you.

 

[ConSluttant]

Wow, that's certainly... a take.

While I find the allegations of sexual assault from clowns like Rial and Marchi to be highly dubious at best, I don't find any reason to question the credibility of Vic's ex-fiance particularly when in his responses to her he doesn't even deny a single thing she says about him.

You are right about one thing, though. It all could have been avoided with a simple discussion. One in which Vic says to his girlfriend and then fiance "hey, while I go on tour I bang lots of women and hire prostitutes, does that bother you?", but he didn't. He hid it from her. And he didn't hide it from her because he cared about her, he hid it from her because she was his long-term bang that cleaned the house, cooked his meals and catered to his every whim. He wasn't preserving her immediate feelings, he was a coward that didn't want to have to choose between having a stable and honest relationship with her or banging convention groupies that were nothing to him but weekend ass. When it comes to Vic's relationship with Michele, Vic comes across as a deceitful asshole. I'm pretty sure that the only thing she'd have been wrong about was believing Vic when he said he was committed to their relationship.

When I left my spouse and got a similar type of letter - which was about the fifteenth time they had tried to browbeat me with false guilt attempts - my response to them did not involve any sort of denial of the behavior alleged. Mainly because if I had said anything about it it would have opened even more accusations being made. That part of his response doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's typical de-escalation when you've been on the receiving end of this type of diatribe before and are sick of it.

 

[Disheveled Pizza]

So is a man murdering his ex. The fact that people are understandably angry at a breakup, especially after the ex did some fairly shitty things, doesn't excuse literally anything they do afterwards.

Right, I wasn't defending her actions, but pointing out that a professional shouldn't resort to using that kind of email and 'testimony' as an assertion of fact. She is going to be angry and do stupid things that she shouldn't so no one is going to give her claims any merit especially with how salacious they are, it hurts their motion more than anything because it shows a reliance on defamatory and unverifiable claims.

 

[ShaggyDawg]

Twitter has an advanced search feature if you search anything and then go to the left hand side of the screen after it loads btw, lets you search by dates, names, replying to, hashtags, keywords, etc. Search filters > show > advanced search.

She must have deleted it though because the most recent time she even mentions the name Sabat is in 2018. As well as the most recent time she mentioned Broly was early January and it wasnt about kickvic.

I remember this I think it might be archived or screencapped early on in the thread or in the Monica and Ron thread

 

[Hallstein995]

Yeah Chuck's mediation attempt really didn't help. I don't even know whether to say his heart was in the right place considering how shitty and reputation damaging that sex addict writeup is (though the conditions for the other side weren't great either). Well, it may help yet considering Kickvic's claims that if he just hired a PR firm and apologized it would've turned out fine, considering he said he hired PR in deposition and the emails show that apologies were very much not being accepted.

You also have to account for the fact that this is probably the first time Mr. Huber has ever served as a mediator for a potential lawsuit. Up until this point his background was actor and former HS principal.

 

[GeneralMint]

You also have to account for the fact that this is probably the first time Mr. Huber has ever served as a mediator for a potential lawsuit. Up until this point his background was actor and former HS principal.

Good intentions. Poor execution.

 

[ShaggyDawg]

Yeah Chuck's mediation attempt really didn't help. I don't even know whether to say his heart was in the right place considering how shitty and reputation damaging that sex addict writeup is (though the conditions for the other side weren't great either).

Calling yourself a nypho is still considerably better than being labeled a pedo or rapist. Chuck obviously doesn't believe anything he wrote (whether for vic only or for both is unknown) as he still continues to hang around vic.

He was probably trying to draft up a statement that would explain why so many people were accusing vic of rape by brushing it all off as consensual encounters that people were taking out of context for clout or out of spite etc

 

[In Heaven]

Good intentions. Poor execution.

I give him an A for effort, but an F- for... pretty much everything else. Can't really hate the guy, though, considering all the shit he's getting from KickVic re.tards.

 

[Coach Kreeton Of All That]

Cockminique Sleeve really trying to get that "uguu notice me senpai uguu" from Chuck Huber.

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[REGENDarySumanai]

Cockminique Sleeve really trying to get that "uguu notice me senpai uguu" from Chuck Huber.

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Oh look, actual sex pest Josh Clark decided to chime in on this. The fact that these idiots claim that it isn't a conspiracy is laughable.

 

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Damn, looks like Chucks getting the fencer sitter treatment. He was better off staying out of it and just playing dumb.

 

[TJ-Weber]

Weeb Wars lurker here, I finally made an account to add my pair of coppers.

The more I think about the attempt at mediation by Vic's friend (the name escapes me at the moment) the more I get pissed off. People who try to mediate so often fall into this trap of having to assume that both sides they are trying to find the middle ground for are valid and worthy of hearing. This is so rarely the case its laughable. Morons have nothing but spite, jealousy, bigotry, and sjw callowness. But this bastard, in the cowardly whinging of the conflict adverse (seriously people, fights are often necessary) tries to make it all go away where one side just admits to hyperbole while the other commits career seppuku and admits serious sexual deviancy. With a friend like that who needs an enemy? Maybe its just I who hate those who cover behind both-side-ism to avoid and cover up the conflicts inevitable to social discourse to protect their pampered illusion of everyone being friends.

Or hells, maybe I just introduced myself to all of you and revealed I'm an idiot sperg.

Nah, you make sense. I'd like to also add that mediators tend to be approached by both parties and selected for their OBJECTIVE opinion by being a third party with no claim in the issue. Chuck Huber was over his head in thinking he could be a good mediator.

 

[ShaggyDawg]

Cockminique Sleeve really trying to get that "uguu notice me senpai uguu" from Chuck Huber.

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OMG this is priceless

Kickvic out here saying they don't harass people yet the biggest, dumbest thot of them all has the audacity to post this. Monica and Ron got the best deal out of all the statements and Vic literally got labeled a sex pest in these things, Yet I doubt anyone has called for chuck's head on ISWV.

 

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[Ie Nay Nein No]

Its not so much the tactical blunder of the mediation attempt that I take issue with, its the disingenuous nature of even attempting such a thing in the first place. These are not two co-equal sides of a dispute to be settled with, its harpies and their sycophants destroying a man's life. And to suggest that this is resolved by the accused, with no proof against him, accept being labeled a sex addict and voluntarily ending his career while the other side gets off with nothing even approaching this all while having the official backing of companies and new outlets is remotely fair or sensible is absurd in the extreme.

I've had too many personal experiences with people like this where in they are so scared of conflict they try to hide and bury any potential cause of friction, to always appease the status quo side to prevent escalation, and play an equivalence fallacy beyond parody. Its the same with the concern trolling, like that shit stain whom Nick did the dms with, whining about how this has divided the fanbase, or the #BeThere nonsense the VAs pulled. Guess what, sometimes you need to burn everything down, sometimes people need to be bloodied, and not allowed to continue to be in established positions of power to exert their personal ideologies and vendettas over a community. And allowing this to continue in order to keep the peace, to pretend the people you thought were your friends are not monsters, and stay neutral is cowardly.

Maybe I'm being too harsh, but the times where two sides are genuinely equal almost never happen, and burying your head in the sand and trying to make it all go away with this kind of politicing is an insult.

(Edit; I do agree with the idea that he was working from a pre-#MeToo mindset in his thinking.)

 

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I think I just experienced real physical pain from a cringe.
Also I find it impossible to believe a real lawyer would ever do something like this on purpose. I refuse to believe it.