Artcow WogglebugLoveProductions / Cynthia Hanson / Cherie Anne Hapney - One Womanchild's Fruitless Quest to Make Her Cockroach Husbando a Household Name

[WogglebugLover]

You're right. We should compliment your overgrown roach and you more. Personally, I thank you. If it wasn't for you I'd have no idea what an utter failure of an animator and storyteller does.

I bet it was you who posted the comment on my 7th vlog. I just want you to know I am no failure. I would only become such if I was to ever just quit. And I never will now. I already went through a period in my life many years ago when I had felt deeply like giving up on my dreams and it was the worst time in my life. I was mentally ill all the time and thinking of doing things I would regret if I ever did them and so I was in and out of the hospital by the year. I can't afford to go back to being that way at this time in my life. I will hold on to my dream and keep pursuing it until the day my life is said and done.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I will hold on to my dream and keep pursuing it until the day my life is said and done.

Then why are you doing absolutely everything to sabotage your own dream and why do you sweet fuck all to actually making it a reality.

 

[Blood Debts]

I just want you to know I am no failure. I would only become such if I was to ever just quit. And I never will now. I already went through a period in my life many years ago when I had felt deeply like giving up on my dreams and it was the worst time in my life. I was mentally ill all the time and thinking of doing things I would regret if I ever did them and so I was in and out of the hospital by the year. I can't afford to go back to being that way at this time in my life. I will hold on to my dream and keep pursuing it until the day my life is said and done.

There are a lot of people in this world who have stupid, shitty dreams---some have even succeeded in making them a reality. The cold hard fact of the matter is though, for some people no amount of hard work and perseverance is going to make that shitty dream come true. And you have to come to grips with the fact that you are one of those people.

That's not to say you should stop entirely. Keep making movies and stories about your faggot beetle husband if that's what you really want. But thinking that one day you can give this character newfound appreciation through those stories and movies, and that you can do better than the actual creator of said character? Never gonna happen. It's obvious from your output, past and present, that you don't have the talent or the willingness to even improve, and from the fact that you fell for a Nigerian scam that you don't have the intelligence or even common sense to make that happen.

Accepting that no one is going to like this character as much as you and just making this shit for your own enjoyment will make you a lot happier in the long run, trust me. Letting go of your dream might seem like quitting or giving up, but it's a reality that some people have to face at some point. Realizing your own limitations is actually more mature than holding on to a stupid, insane dream out of spite and arrogance.

 

[drain]

I was mentally ill all the time

Huh, but you're still mentally ill, you know that right?

I would only become such if I was to ever just quit.

No. Sometimes admitting defeat and that our '''work'' and ''dreams'' are unrealistic and sucks ass is a smart move. But you know, only smart people can recognize their mistakes and move on from them. But you can't see it because again, you're fucking mentally ill and refuse to get help.

You need a therapist and meds fam, not people coddling you and patting you on the back while saying your movie is great and to ''never give up on your dreams'' because that's a huge lie and actually, they're just trying to feel better about themselves because they're white knighting a retard. Nobody thinks your movie and dreams are inspirational and nice and cool and awesome. They're just trying to not hurt the feelings of a mentally ill person.

I actually feel bad for your mom and aunt, but they shouldn't give that much money to a person who is mentally stunted to a point of believing in literal nigerian scams. They should know better.

tl;dr your dreams are unrealistic and your movie is bad, moving on is a smart movie and you totally should do it but you're mentally ill and won't.

 

[Puddleduck]

I guess it depends what her dreams are. If she wants to make films for herself which portrays her character she loves in a way she likes, that's fine. If she wants them to be also enjoyed by others, that's fine too but less likely. If she wants to make a franchise, she needs help.

To be frank - what would therapy achieve? Allowing her to move on, and get a job in an office and start dating? Or would it mean she'd still be effectively trapped in her home by her condition, but without her comfort blanket?

It's not like her dream is to be a boxer, she's not actively harming herself by doing this, and criticism rolls off her back so she's not endangering her mental health. At the end of the day all that's being harmed is her wallet... even breaks etc.

 

[drain]

I guess it depends what her dreams are. If she wants to make films for herself which portrays her character she loves in a way she likes, that's fine. If she wants them to be also enjoyed by others, that's fine too but less likely. If she wants to make a franchise, she needs help.

To be frank - what would therapy achieve? Allowing her to move on, and get a job in an office and start dating? Or would it mean she'd still be effectively trapped in her home by her condition, but without her comfort blanket?

It's not like her dream is to be a boxer, she's not actively harming herself by doing this, and criticism rolls off her back so she's not endangering her mental health. At the end of the day all that's being harmed is her wallet... even breaks etc.

She lacks intelligence and self-introspection to pursue any kind of activity without messing it up. She can't function normally and she already proved it. People like her need mental help, not because they're ''harming only themselves'' but because they're mentally nonefficient and a danger to themselves and possibly others. (Because believing in literally anything you read on the internet can get you in some serious trouble)

@WogglebugLover spent so much money on scams that allowing a person like her to handle money is crazy. She needs to move back home and seek treatment, because she's clearly delusional. What therapy will achieve I don't particularly know because I'm not even in the mental health field, but it sure would be 100x better than her just sitting around and spending other people's money.

She's naïve to a point of believing some random nigerian was in love with her. Just imagine if she encounters people like him irl. She would allow them in her house, putting herself and others around her in danger.

I don't want her to get a job and start dating, because I don't really care what she does with her life, but she needs mental help. Untreated mental illness is a huge problem, and even if the person isn't harming anyone, eventually something will go awry. She isn't a kid anymore, she's an adult interacting with other adults, she needs AT LEAST basic common sense, and she's lacking it.

 

[dirtydeanna96]

If I read/watch/ play the first part in a series and it sucks I know it's not worth my time to continue it.

Exactly. That is why I want to know why @WogglebugLover read all of baum's books when she didn't enjoy them.
What books *do* you enjoy, Cynthia?
The best way to become a good writer is to read.

 

[AnOminous]

It's not like her dream is to be a boxer, she's not actively harming herself by doing this, and criticism rolls off her back so she's not endangering her mental health.

She'd have more chance of being a boxer than of making this hideous blood sucking bed bug a popular character.

 

[Sosig_muncher]

I bet it was you who posted the comment on my 7th vlog.

No it wasn't me. Actually I saw the comment on it and was inspired by it to copy it down and show it to you here.

I just want you to know I am no failure. I would only become such if I was to ever just quit. And I never will now. I already went through a period in my life many years ago when I had felt deeply like giving up on my dreams and it was the worst time in my life. I was mentally ill all the time and thinking of doing things I would regret if I ever did them and so I was in and out of the hospital by the year. I can't afford to go back to being that way at this time in my life. I will hold on to my dream and keep pursuing it until the day my life is said and done.

Are you sure about that? No one else likes your roach except you, your animating sucks, and you should've given up on these useless dreams and find an actual hobby.

 

[Misaki Nakahara]

This bitch is seriously trying to claim she loves the Wogglebug more than me? Fuck outta here, poseur.

 

[Koresh]

@WogglebugLover

I drew Wogglebug when I ate breakfast this morning. It's not your design, but it's how I pictured him from the books.

Spoiler: doodle

I also wanted to say that I really empathize with you. I know a lot of people have made futile efforts to try and make it through to you, and honestly, it wouldn't sit right with me if I didn't give it a go because you remind me of myself.

Spoiler: Dear Cynthia

I understand what it's like to be schizophrenic and have a cluster A personality disorder.

I understand what it's like to hate reality and retreat into a fantasy world. I understand what it's like to only be able to go on because of that world, because of something that everyone says doesn't exist. I was in an abusive environment too and the only way I survived was to create stories, just like you. I spent a year and a half doing nothing but attending classes, working a shitty minimum wage job, and then immediately went to work bringing these precious stories into reality. I slept 1 to 3 hours a night because I spent all my time writing and drawing. I didn't do it for the fame or money, I did it because I felt like I owed it to these characters, that I was alive because of them and the only way to express my gratitude and love would be to bring them to life. I know what you mean when you say that you need to do Wogglebug right, because I felt the exact same way. I didn't want my shitty life anymore, I wanted to give it to these characters and spend my days for their sake.

I understand how frustrating it is to work really hard on something, to bring a project to life and then have no one acknowledge it or like it. That's what happened to me. After spending all that time writing and finishing a book, I gave it out only for no one to read it. No one has read it. That tore me apart for years and I can only imagine that you're going through that same pain. People don't get that it's not just not liking a movie, not just not watching it or not reading a book. They don't get that this product is your life. It's what you've poured yourself into and them not liking it and saying it's a failure is them saying that you're a failure. That you failed to repay the characters who've done so much for you. And I understand that it's easy to think it's their fault, that they don't get it. I understand that when you're faced with reality, it's so much easier to just retreat back into the fantasy and hope that things will work out, and take the easy way instead of facing reality.

But for the sake of Wogglebug, you need to understand that your product isn't good enough. The issue with my product was that there was too much of me in there, I'd put every injustice and gripe I had with the world in there, and as a result, it was a bloated bunch of nonsense. The issue with my first comic was that I drew in a way that only appealed to me and I was rightly laughed at and mocked for it. The issue with your movie is that there's too much of you in it. If you love the Wogglebug, you're not doing this for yourself, you're doing it for him and you need to create a world that he can thrive in. Not literally, but a world where he can show his morality, his inner strength, his struggles and how he overcomes it. That's a world where the Wogglebug can grow as a character and be empathized with and truly beloved by everyone. It's a world where the Wogglebug can be the Wogglebug you love, and he'll be in reality.

Reality is like marble, you can stare at it all you want and imagine the sculpture inside, but staring at it won't do anything. You can use cheap tools to chip at it and shortcuts to make it easier for yourself, but people will see the shoddy craftsmanship. You need to get better tools, practice with them so you know how to use them and can demonstrate mastery, and then you need to apply the hard honest effort of chiseling the marble into what you want to show the world.

I know this probably won't get through to you, but it really does sadden me when I see people chasing their dreams in a way that won't bring them to fruition. My dreams haven't come true yet either, but now I'm able to make a living in that field and I'm already on a path where, if I work hard enough, they're certainly in reach. You need to start making an honest effort because Wogglebug deserves it. You should have enough gratitude in him to do unpleasant things for his sake. People won't understand, and that's okay, you just need to work harder to build a bridge where they finally can understand. Communication is all about what's being received and you need to change the message being sent into the message you want being received.

I will accept my powerlevel and autism ratings because sweet Joseph, I deserve them for this.

 

[drain]

@WogglebugLover

I drew Wogglebug when I ate breakfast this morning. It's not your design, but it's how I pictured him from the books.

Spoiler: doodle

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I also wanted to say that I really empathize with you. I know a lot of people have made futile efforts to try and make it through to you, and honestly, it wouldn't sit right with me if I didn't give it a go because you remind me of myself.

Spoiler: Dear Cynthia

I understand what it's like to be schizophrenic and have a cluster A personality disorder.

I understand what it's like to hate reality and retreat into a fantasy world. I understand what it's like to only be able to go on because of that world, because of something that everyone says doesn't exist. I was in an abusive environment too and the only way I survived was to create stories, just like you. I spent a year and a half doing nothing but attending classes, working a shitty minimum wage job, and then immediately went to work bringing these precious stories into reality. I slept 1 to 3 hours a night because I spent all my time writing and drawing. I didn't do it for the fame or money, I did it because I felt like I owed it to these characters, that I was alive because of them and the only way to express my gratitude and love would be to bring them to life. I know what you mean when you say that you need to do Wogglebug right, because I felt the exact same way. I didn't want my shitty life anymore, I wanted to give it to these characters and spend my days for their sake.

I understand how frustrating it is to work really hard on something, to bring a project to life and then have no one acknowledge it or like it. That's what happened to me. After spending all that time writing and finishing a book, I gave it out only for no one to read it. No one has read it. That tore me apart for years and I can only imagine that you're going through that same pain. People don't get that it's not just not liking a movie, not just not watching it or not reading a book. They don't get that this product is your life. It's what you've poured yourself into and them not liking it and saying it's a failure is them saying that you're a failure. That you failed to repay the characters who've done so much for you. And I understand that it's easy to think it's their fault, that they don't get it. I understand that when you're faced with reality, it's so much easier to just retreat back into the fantasy and hope that things will work out, and take the easy way instead of facing reality.

But for the sake of Wogglebug, you need to understand that your product isn't good enough. The issue with my product was that there was too much of me in there, I'd put every injustice and gripe I had with the world in there, and as a result, it was a bloated bunch of nonsense. The issue with my first comic was that I drew in a way that only appealed to me and I was rightly laughed at and mocked for it. The issue with your movie is that there's too much of you in it. If you love the Wogglebug, you're not doing this for yourself, you're doing it for him and you need to create a world that he can thrive in. Not literally, but a world where he can show his morality, his inner strength, his struggles and how he overcomes it. That's a world where the Wogglebug can grow as a character and be empathized with and truly beloved by everyone. It's a world where the Wogglebug can be the Wogglebug you love, and he'll be in reality.

Reality is like marble, you can stare at it all you want and imagine the sculpture inside, but staring at it won't do anything. You can use cheap tools to chip at it and shortcuts to make it easier for yourself, but people will see the shoddy craftsmanship. You need to get better tools, practice with them so you know how to use them and can demonstrate mastery, and then you need to apply the hard honest effort of chiseling the marble into what you want to show the world.

I know this probably won't get through to you, but it really does sadden me when I see people chasing their dreams in a way that won't bring them to fruition. My dreams haven't come true yet either, but now I'm able to make a living in that field and I'm already on a path where, if I work hard enough, they're certainly in reach. You need to start making an honest effort because Wogglebug deserves it. You should have enough gratitude in him to do unpleasant things for his sake. People won't understand, and that's okay, you just need to work harder to build a bridge where they finally can understand. Communication is all about what's being received and you need to change the message being sent into the message you want being received.

I will accept my powerlevel and autism ratings because sweet Joseph, I deserve them for this.

Dude, I think you made some fair points here, but the main problem with her is that she lacks self introspection. I mean, that's good for you to learn with your mistakes and all, but @WogglebugLover refuse to listen to advice. She needs to treat her mental illness first, because she won't listen to you.
She think we are all mean and shit for pointing obvious issues with her work. I particularly don't hold any grudges against her (or any other lolcow for the matter), but keep in mind that talking to her is pointless.
She needs help. Asap. She's delusional and the only thing I see when looking at her and her ''work'' is that she keeps digging her own grave.

 

[Koresh]

Dude, I think you made some fair points here, but the main problem with her is that she lacks self introspection. I mean, that's good for you to learn with your mistakes and all, but @WogglebugLover refuse to listen to advice. She needs to treat her mental illness first, because she won't listen to you.
She think we are all mean and shit for pointing obvious issues with her work. I particularly don't hold any grudges against her (or any other lolcow for the matter), but keep in mind that talking to her is pointless.
She needs help. Asap. She's delusional and the only thing I see when looking at her and her ''work'' is that she keeps digging her own grave.

Yeah, I know it's a wasted effort, but for my own relief I wanted to try.

Thing is that the Wogglebug is directly tied to her mental health and identity. All the doctors and meds didn't help me, they just turned me into an obedient zombie who was still miserable and delusional. Cynthia can be on a drug regiment and have the best doctors in the world, but I don't think she can be happy independent of the Wogglebug. What ended up helping in the end was a single person taking me aside and telling me that she believed in me and that I could do it, I just needed to work harder. Do I think I or anyone here will be that person for Cynthia? Hell no. Do I think that a person like that even exists for her? I don't know.

Yeah, I'm optimistic and seeing way too much of myself in her. But it's the internet and it doesn't really matter.

 

[XYZpdq]

I still think something like the plush as a rod puppet would work great.

 

[drain]

Yeah, I know it's a wasted effort, but for my own relief I wanted to try.

Thing is that the Wogglebug is directly tied to her mental health and identity. All the doctors and meds didn't help me, they just turned me into an obedient zombie who was still miserable and delusional. Cynthia can be on a drug regiment and have the best doctors in the world, but I don't think she can be happy independent of the Wogglebug. What ended up helping in the end was a single person taking me aside and telling me that she believed in me and that I could do it, I just needed to work harder. Do I think I or anyone here will be that person for Cynthia? Hell no. Do I think that a person like that even exists for her? I don't know.

Yeah, I'm optimistic and seeing way too much of myself in her. But it's the internet and it doesn't really matter.

Well, I'm glad you got the help you needed. I'm not some heartless fucker, I actually want to see people improving themselves.
@WogglebugLover just gave me the impression she isn't interested in help, at all. She just comes here and acts smug and arrogant, refusing to see the mistakes on her work. I still think she needs professional help, but again, I'm not mentally ill, so idk.

 

[Ido]

@WogglebugLover remember when you asked me how you could make more friends (or get friend requests) on this website? This isn't how you do it.

I've recommended getting out and doing things and even sent you a link to the slime rancher steam because that's a simple game I think you could handle. I didn't expect you to play it or like it, but that's a thing you easily could've had a conversation on with me a multiple other people, handed to you on a platter. YOU are the only thing holding yourself back, you NEED to get off your ass and get new hobbies. You're lonely because you're obsessed with a character hardly anyone knows of, let alone likes, and you're actively chasing the ones who know off if they don't have the same opinion of the wogglebug. Wiki calls him "too conceited for anyone to want to associate with" and "no ones favorite", so of course no one is going to have the same opinion as you. You've isolated yourself and you refuse to develop any interests apart from the one that literally no one else in the world has.

Do you do ANYTHING outside of wogglebug?

 

[TurboNAS]

Slime Rancher is a ton of fun. Launching chickens into the pens doesn't get old.

 

[WogglebugLover]

@Ido I wasn't interested in playing and then discussing a new game that has nothing that interests me. I have a variety of interests in other characters and fandoms. But Wogglebug is my main favorite of anything and I have relationships of any kind they have to a common interest in him.

And it's not true that I am the only one who likes the character. I have in years past both made friends with people younger than me who either had never heard of him before reading a story I wrote about him and were able to come to love him regardless of what the Oz books said that they later read, and also people who had read the Oz books and all along had formed much the same opinion as I had. If this wasn't the case I wouldn't keep coming back here to defend myself so many times.

@Koresh Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences with me. We seem to be kindred spirits. And your drawing of your vision of Wogglebug was pretty good even if it wasn't in the design of my movies.

And I actually do have a very close friend who has in her own right done for me what you said you had someone do for you that you needed and that I also needed. And she is a combination of both kinds of people I mentioned before I found freinds in. I won't give out any personal information about her other than she goes by the name Amy. I don't have her or any other friends of mine come on here for good reasons. White Knighting isn't allowed, and I don't want any of them being harassed on here, and Amy suffers a few mental health problems of her own and wouldn't like being on here.

And @DrainRedRain I don't care to seek out "professional help" because I have too much trouble with talking to strangers about my personal issues and can't trust them not to be rude to me if I do. For instance I once went to a well reputed mental health center called NetCare (only because my mom insisted on it) and the phychiatrist who saw me did little more than just talk to me in a way that made me feel he thought I was a bad person just because I had gone to the hospital because of my mental illness. I never went back and never will.

 

[howyadoin]

And @DrainRedRain I don't care to seek out "professional help" because I have too much trouble with talking to strangers about my personal issues and can't trust them not to be rude to me if I do. For instance I once went to a well reputed mental health center called NetCare (only because my mom insisted on it) and the phychiatrist who saw me did little more than just talk to me in a way that made me feel he thought I was a bad person just because I had gone to the hospital because of my mental illness. I never went back and never will.

If you met one psychiatrist, you met one psychiatrist. What I'm saying is that you can always look for another psychiatrist if one doesn't suit you.

And you can tell your potential psychiatrist any problems you've talked about with us strangers, even about the Wogglebug. You can even talk about how "The Kiwifarmers are mean to you". I'm curious how they would respond.

 

[Ido]

@Ido I wasn't interested in playing and then discussing a new game that has nothing that interests me. I have a variety of interests in other characters and fandoms.

Name 10 of both, none of them can be oz or wogglebug related. I want to know what other shit you like so I can legit have a conversation with you that doesn't involve giant talking bugs.

I have in years past both made friends with people younger than me who either had never heard of him before reading a story I wrote about him and were able to come to love him regardless of what the Oz books said that they later read, and also people who had read the Oz books and all along had formed much the same opinion as I had.

Younger? How much younger? Also, what made them your friend prior to telling them about wogglebug? Did you still talk after you told them? So you still talk to them now? What things did you talk about?

If this wasn't the case I wouldn't keep coming back here to defend myself so many times.

If you literally hadn't and were chill I think all of us would've jumped on the wogglebug bandwagon.