TGWTG Linkara / Lewis Lovhaug - HMMMMMMM? (Dead Gay Muppet Gangbang)

[BigTubboWithLittleChina]

Doug's a really bad writer but is Linkara at or below his level?

They're about the same level. Both narcissistic spergs. Doug thinks he's a comedy scream and Linky thinks he's a great dramaturge.

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

They're about the same level. Both narcissistic spergs. Doug thinks he's a comedy scream and Linky thinks he's a great dramaturge.

Nah. I disagree. Doug is also bad, but he isn't Linkara levels of bad. I will give him some credit in how Channel Awesome only exists because everyone wanted to leech off his fame and most people there are inferior copies of him including Linkara.

Doug is like a cheap McDonald's hamburger trying to be an expensive steak. It's not great, but it's, at least, eatable. Linkara is more like spoiled M1lk.

My experience with Power Rangers is that traditionally, you stop caring about them when you hit between 5-8 or so. Any kid who still cared about them were either aware of this, or mentally challenged. Given that we've seen that Lewis is unable to improve on anything he works on and will actually make excuses for this, we can safely assume that he is in fact mentally challenged and so was hired by Channel Awesome as a diversity hire.

I would be a bit more generous and say a kid up to 14-15 tops. On the risk of repeating myself, sure adults caring for kiddie stuff is more accepted nowadays. However, Power Ranger is very straightforward cheesy.

Which is why the history of power rangers seems a bit odd to me. Surely the target audience of 14-year-old boys doesn't care about a "documentary" or how there are "plot holes" in a show about explosions and "cool" martial arts. And the adults really only care about the old shows they are nostalgic. No wonder it's got so low views.

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

I really enjoy Linkara's Power Rangers documentaries, if only for the pure autism/I loved late Saban Power Rangers and some of Disney Rangers.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

The History of Power Rangers stuff was fun if only it gave me an abridged overview of what happened after I stopped watching PR.

I'd like to say someone else probably could have done it better than Linkara, but I don't know anybody on the net who would go into as much detail or have as strong an opinion as him about that stuff.

 

[Doctor Stan]

Nah. I disagree. Doug is also bad, but he isn't Linkara levels of bad. I will give him some credit in how Channel Awesome only exists because everyone wanted to leech off his fame and most people there are inferior copies of him including Linkara.

Doug is like a cheap McDonald's hamburger trying to be an expensive steak. It's not great, but it's, at least, eatable. Linkara is more like spoiled M1lk.



I would be a bit more generous and say a kid up to 14-15 tops. On the risk of repeating myself, sure adults caring for kiddie stuff is more accepted nowadays. However, Power Ranger is very straightforward cheesy.

Which is why the history of power rangers seems a bit odd to me. Surely the target audience of 14-year-old boys doesn't care about a "documentary" or how there are "plot holes" in a show about explosions and "cool" martial arts. And the adults really only care about the old shows they are nostalgic. No wonder it's got so low views.

Yeah I could see kids up into mid teens maybe enjoying it unironically, but after like, 12-13, I suspect most non autisimos would find it cringy and goofy.

Now later on I could understand someone wanting to go back to it out of a sense of ironic enjoyment, probably with some pot or alcohol to laugh at the cheesy wire stunts and bad acting. Linkara seemed to talk about the show as if it was a masterpiece of entertainment, and not a cheesy toy commercial

 

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[MisterBee]

Yeah I could see kids up into mid teens maybe enjoying it unironically, but after like, 12-13, I suspect most non autisimos would find it cringy and goofy.

Now later on I could understand someone wanting to go back to it out of a sense of ironic enjoyment, probably with some pot or alcohol to laugh at the cheesy wire stunts and bad acting. Linkara seemed to talk about the show as if it was a masterpiece of entertainment, and not a cheesy toy commercial

I'm still sure he's doing it out of pure spite, lol.

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

I really enjoy Linkara's Power Rangers documentaries, if only for the pure autism/I loved late Saban Power Rangers and some of Disney Rangers.

I'll admit the history of power rangers isn't that bad on itself. It's a decent time-waster on youtube. But I do recall there was one series he was reviewing and Linkara complaining about how the power rangers were getting many upgrades. All while missing the obvious fact that power rangers, like a toy commercial, of course, will try to shoehorn as many toys models as possible.

I'm still sure he's doing it out of pure spite, lol.

I didn't know it was out of spite. Some nerds tried to make fun of him for liking Power Rangers more than super sentai?

To give him credit, I haven't checked, but I sincerely doubt super sentai isn't also a cheesy toy commercial.

 

[MisterBee]

I'll admit the history of power rangers isn't that bad on itself. It's a decent time-waster on youtube. But I do recall there was one series he was reviewing and Linkara complaining about how the power rangers were getting many upgrades. All while missing the fact that power rangers, like a toy commercial, of course, will try to shoehorn as many toys models as possible.




I didn't know it was out of spite. Some nerds tried to make fun of him for liking Power Rangers more than super sentai?

To give him credit, I haven't checked, but I sincerely doubt super sentai isn't also a cheesy toy commercial.

Yup, that's how I heard it. I won't try to pretend one is better than the other; that's Lewis who does that, lol.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

That gives it quite the advantage over TBF. I honestly believe if you took out all the cultural references [and by that I mean line-for-line, shot-for-shot copies from more successful films] TBF would probably be two hours.

At least tell me that if there are any jokes or plot points I won't see coming from ten miles away from the TGWTG movies. Doug's a really bad writer but is Linkara at or below his level?

The thing about Linkara is that his storylines are not good. In fact they can get pretty cringe. But despite this there’s something compelling about it. I think it’s because I can see that he is legitimately trying to make something great but it fails so hard that it honestly ends up being compelling in its own weird way.

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

The thing about Linkara is that his storylines are not good. In fact they can get pretty cringe. But despite this there’s something compelling about it. I think it’s because I can see that he is legitimately trying to make something great but it fails so hard that it honestly ends up being compelling in its own weird way.

Yeah.I've to admit that his serious attempts at creating plots are a dirty guilty pleasure of mine

I read Lightbringer and a bit of his sailor moon fanfic out of a fascination of how he misses basic storytelling rules. Makes me even curious about his light-bringer novel.

He wants to emulate big franchises, and is even able to make a living critiquing them. But when it comes to execution, he can't help but rant and self insert himself in them.

Linkara wants to be original, but he can’t help himself of being extremely derivate verging on plagiarism.

It's very interesting how he tries so hard to make deep philosophical statements about morality and philosophy all while his plots are Saturday morning cartoon levels of good vs evil. “Must stop bad guy from taking over the word”.

I think Lewis would improve a lot if he stopped using Mary Sue self inserts, and got the fact that people love underdogs. If he portrayed himself sincerely as an awkward person and a struggling failed comic book writer , that would be far more interesting than seeing him trying to be the awesomest person ever that can do no wrong.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I'll admit the history of power rangers isn't that bad on itself. It's a decent time-waster on youtube. But I do recall there was one series he was reviewing and Linkara complaining about how the power rangers were getting many upgrades. All while missing the obvious fact that power rangers, like a toy commercial, of course, will try to shoehorn as many toys models as possible.






I didn't know it was out of spite. Some nerds tried to make fun of him for liking Power Rangers more than super sentai?

To give him credit, I haven't checked, but I sincerely doubt super sentai isn't also a cheesy toy commercial.

It’s funny because in MLP, people bitched when Twilight Sparkle was going to get wings and become an alicorn.

 

[MisterBee]

The thing about Linkara is that his storylines are not good. In fact they can get pretty cringe. But despite this there’s something compelling about it. I think it’s because I can see that he is legitimately trying to make something great but it fails so hard that it honestly ends up being compelling in its own weird way.

But there's no honesty or something truly special behind it.

Sure, he WANTS to tell a good story, but there's nothing personal about it. Even Chris, when he tells a bad story, there's something honest and personal in it, like the one about his dog. Lewis lacks the ability to make any sort of emotional connection to the audience.

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

But there's no honesty or something truly special behind it.

Sure, he WANTS to tell a good story, but there's nothing personal about it. Even Chris, when he tells a bad story, there's something honest and personal in it, like the one about his dog. Lewis lacks the ability to make any sort of emotional connection to the audience.

Yeah. And I think it’s because he writes to entertein himself not his audience

In a sense I think be does tell us a lot about himself. Like all mary sues, he is teling us how he wished he was not how he is. Say, his sailor moon self insert is a “mysterious” cool guy that gives one liners and all girls were in awe about how cool he was.

 

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Oh nice dude

I think Lewis would improve a lot if he stopped using Mary Sue self inserts, and got the fact that people love underdogs. If he portrayed himself sincerely as an awkward person and a struggling failed comic book writer , that would be far more interesting than seeing him trying to be the awesomest person ever that can do no wrong.

I think that's something a lot of very amateur authors need to get past, even myself from personal experience, I did do this at a point. Unlike Lewis I did grow out of it, and I've taken a lot of criticism to heart as well, which I feel like he's never really done. Though being fair, I don't know the guy, I'm just saying what I feel about him and his work, it's very high school.

 

[MisterBee]

Oh nice dude

I think that's something a lot of very amateur authors need to get past, even myself from personal experience, I did do this at a point. Unlike Lewis I did grow out of it, and I've taken a lot of criticism to heart as well, which I feel like he's never really done. Though being fair, I don't know the guy, I'm just saying what I feel about him and his work, it's very high school.

He says he understands, and even 'agrees' with criticism as a coping defense mechanism. If someone tells him something of his sucks, if he goes "I agree", he learned long ago that the conversation fizzles out and stops. I doubt he actually agrees; he just doesn't want to hear his stuff slagged for 20 minutes.

The proof in the pudding is the fact that he never improved.

 

[Doctor Stan]

He says he understands, and even 'agrees' with criticism as a coping defense mechanism. If someone tells him something of his sucks, if he goes "I agree", he learned long ago that the conversation fizzles out and stops. I doubt he actually agrees; he just doesn't want to hear his stuff slagged for 20 minutes.

The proof in the pudding is the fact that he never improved.

It's even further in the pudding, as was pointed out earlier in this very thread, because in his video about his own screwups, he mostly made excuses as opposed to owning up and fixing H his mistakes and general problems

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

I just checked lighrbringer on the bad webcomic wiki. He does address and acknowledges the criticism, but as you said, he never improved.

Lightbringer... well, he sometimes comes off as a Mary Sue when you keep talking about his philosophies in line with your own...

That's a fair criticism. Mostly this is due to the fact that I didn't want to write a character I disliked writing about and subsequently included those elements in. Another part of this is what I mentioned above about having philosophical topics that I wanted to bring up and discuss.

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"I know it's a mary sue. But I like it so it's fine"

 

[Adamska]

He says he understands, and even 'agrees' with criticism as a coping defense mechanism. If someone tells him something of his sucks, if he goes "I agree", he learned long ago that the conversation fizzles out and stops. I doubt he actually agrees; he just doesn't want to hear his stuff slagged for 20 minutes.

The proof in the pudding is the fact that he never improved.

Now I'm curious on how he'd handle a person that then asked why he can't bother to improve. Then ask why is he being a yes man and intentionally not listening. And then why he thinks he can be a critic when he can't even take it beyond mindlessly saying "I agree" and clearly just trying to get said person off their back.

 

[MisterBee]

Now I'm curious on how he'd handle a person that then asked why he can't bother to improve. Then ask why is he being a yes man and intentionally not listening. And then why he thinks he can be a critic when he can't even take it beyond mindlessly saying "I agree" and clearly just trying to get said person off their back.

His fans insulate him so deep in his hug box that'll never happen