TGWTG Linkara / Lewis Lovhaug - HMMMMMMM? (Dead Gay Muppet Gangbang)

Earlier someone mentioned that he apologized for his videos about fuck ups being simply excuses. Well, the problem is he did it only after people had pointed 100 times that these were excuses. Same for him lightly(pun intended) admitting that Lightbringer was shit. It's not because he realized that it was shit, but because people multiple times told him that criticizing bad, but comparably much better comics, when you wrote this(and still was writing while doing Atop the 4th wall) is kinda gay. I'm sure deep inside he still doesn't think that it is shit.
 
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He made the character public domain right? I wonder what his reaction would be if someone retooled Lightbringer as oh I don’t know... pro comicsgate
He did make it public domain.
Since Lovhaug has other priorities to attend to (also another webcomic called Revolution of the Mask), Lightbringer has not updated since August 19, 2012. Lovhaug eventually deemed it too time consuming and officially released the comic and all of its characters into the public domain.

Well, it's finally time to just do this: I am releasing Lightbringer to the public domain.

I've been reluctant to do this for a while, partially out of a desire to go back to it, partially because a friend of mine said I shouldn't in case someone else gets it big and starts making money off of it, but I can't sit and wait for that to happen. If no one's working on it, then nothing will happen with the character. I started Lightbringer because I was an angry, opinionated 17-18 year-old who really wanted to make comic books and saw webcomics as the best way to do that. I was a crappy writer and a crappier artist who didn't understand how a lot of comic books actually WORK, but it got people interested and excited to some degree. I tried to keep up with it as my interests and focus shifted towards more criticism instead of writing and my schedule became much more hampered by other projects that I needed to do in order to get money, but the passion just isn't there like it once was.

I still wanted to do right by the character, especially since the artist at the time, Sergio, still wanted to work on it, so I asked people if they were interested in writing and I got plenty of submissions... which I never found time to sit down and read. I'm glancing through most of them now, mostly because I feel bad that I never got back to these people. It's my own fault for opening the floodgates when I wasn't ready for it, so my sincerest apologies go out to all the people who submitted pitches or were really enthusiastic about it. I hope you still are and are trying to do interesting things with your own writing and artwork. And hopefully now you'll have the opportunity to do so with Lightbringer if you so desire with my full blessing.

Now what does me releasing it to the public domain MEAN exactly? Well, it means the character and the pages that I produced (you'd have to check with the other artists' themselves for permission to use their artwork, since I'm only releasing MY work into the public domain) are free to be printed, reused, and altered by people any way they see fit. If you want to create your own story and use all the characters in Lightbringer with it, even horribly mutilate them as some kind of catharsis for hating me for some reason and then print it for money... yep, that's completely within your right. If you want to tell new stories with Lightbringer and the characters, you're free to do so as well. That being said, once YOU create something with it, that's yours to do with as you see fit. No one else can reproduce YOUR work with the character, since you've basically created something new and original by your hands. It just means that if someone else wants to make their own interpretation of the character, they can do that, too, as long as the work they're doing with it is their own.

What does that mean for the actual Lightbringer webcomic page? Eh, probably just going to leave it to die on its own if it hasn't already. By this point, Sergio has long since moved on with his own work, including his current webcomic Thirteenth Child, so he probably won't be available to work on it if you were still hoping to do so.

I'm still proud of what I did with Lightbringer, even though most of it is bad. It taught me new tools to use in art programs, the harsh criticism I received helped get me on track for producing slightly better stuff and, at least, taught me more about the medium and eventually into criticism as a profession. A lot of ideas that I have for Lightbringer's future I may end up using in Atop the Fourth Wall itself, but otherwise if you ask me about some of the stuff I had planned or at least ideas I had, I'll answer them.

Still, I'm hoping that some of you out there will produce something more with it than I ever did and I wish all of you the best of luck. ^_^
 
He did make it public domain.
Since Lovhaug has other priorities to attend to (also another webcomic called Revolution of the Mask), Lightbringer has not updated since August 19, 2012. Lovhaug eventually deemed it too time consuming and officially released the comic and all of its characters into the public domain.

Well, it's finally time to just do this: I am releasing Lightbringer to the public domain.

I've been reluctant to do this for a while, partially out of a desire to go back to it, partially because a friend of mine said I shouldn't in case someone else gets it big and starts making money off of it, but I can't sit and wait for that to happen. If no one's working on it, then nothing will happen with the character. I started Lightbringer because I was an angry, opinionated 17-18 year-old who really wanted to make comic books and saw webcomics as the best way to do that. I was a crappy writer and a crappier artist who didn't understand how a lot of comic books actually WORK, but it got people interested and excited to some degree. I tried to keep up with it as my interests and focus shifted towards more criticism instead of writing and my schedule became much more hampered by other projects that I needed to do in order to get money, but the passion just isn't there like it once was.

I still wanted to do right by the character, especially since the artist at the time, Sergio, still wanted to work on it, so I asked people if they were interested in writing and I got plenty of submissions... which I never found time to sit down and read. I'm glancing through most of them now, mostly because I feel bad that I never got back to these people. It's my own fault for opening the floodgates when I wasn't ready for it, so my sincerest apologies go out to all the people who submitted pitches or were really enthusiastic about it. I hope you still are and are trying to do interesting things with your own writing and artwork. And hopefully now you'll have the opportunity to do so with Lightbringer if you so desire with my full blessing.

Now what does me releasing it to the public domain MEAN exactly? Well, it means the character and the pages that I produced (you'd have to check with the other artists' themselves for permission to use their artwork, since I'm only releasing MY work into the public domain) are free to be printed, reused, and altered by people any way they see fit. If you want to create your own story and use all the characters in Lightbringer with it, even horribly mutilate them as some kind of catharsis for hating me for some reason and then print it for money... yep, that's completely within your right. If you want to tell new stories with Lightbringer and the characters, you're free to do so as well. That being said, once YOU create something with it, that's yours to do with as you see fit. No one else can reproduce YOUR work with the character, since you've basically created something new and original by your hands. It just means that if someone else wants to make their own interpretation of the character, they can do that, too, as long as the work they're doing with it is their own.

What does that mean for the actual Lightbringer webcomic page? Eh, probably just going to leave it to die on its own if it hasn't already. By this point, Sergio has long since moved on with his own work, including his current webcomic Thirteenth Child, so he probably won't be available to work on it if you were still hoping to do so.

I'm still proud of what I did with Lightbringer, even though most of it is bad. It taught me new tools to use in art programs, the harsh criticism I received helped get me on track for producing slightly better stuff and, at least, taught me more about the medium and eventually into criticism as a profession. A lot of ideas that I have for Lightbringer's future I may end up using in Atop the Fourth Wall itself, but otherwise if you ask me about some of the stuff I had planned or at least ideas I had, I'll answer them.

Still, I'm hoping that some of you out there will produce something more with it than I ever did and I wish all of you the best of luck. ^_^

I'm sure Marv Wolfman and George Perez would have something to say about 'releasing' the copyright of a character they created.

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Now I'm curious on how he'd handle a person that then asked why he can't bother to improve. Then ask why is he being a yes man and intentionally not listening. And then why he thinks he can be a critic when he can't even take it beyond mindlessly saying "I agree" and clearly just trying to get said person off their back.
I don't think he even knows how to improve. I can understand if he just wants to get someone off of his back, but in all the time that Lewis has done creative work, he's never gotten better. Even his own internal self-critique mechanism, which all creators have, should have sparked some sort of inclination to improve, but it never happens.

He writes exactly the same way now as he did in his fanfic days. He tries to write big, but I believe his problem is that he doesn't know how to make the audience feel anything. He tells you what the stakes are (in exquisitely boring detail, I might add), but he can't linger on a single non-verbal emotion.

It's difficult to say why he does that. Maybe he thinks that this might be the first time anyone has ever watched AT4W, so he has to bring the viewer up to speed ON EVERYTHING, but he doesn't see how that kills the drama.

For example, in his own fucking movie, he has that scene in which Mechakara reveals himself, and Linkara freezes. If he had the courage to simply linger on his character's fear for one fucking second instead of having his robot self to shove boring plot exposition down our throats, that would have been amazing (by Linkara standards). Heck, he does the slow turn. If he could mute the audio of that stupid robot for just a moment, he might have actually captured something. (Also doesn't help that Mechakara kind of sounds like Daffy Duck.)

And no, that wouldn't make the movie watchable, but it's an incremental improvement. If... oh, I don't know ...Linkara had, say, a decade-and-a-half of incremental improvements, maybe he'd be the industry comic book writer he always wanted to be.

He clearly wanted to make his own version of Wrath Of Khan. He should have tried actually watching the movie.
 
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I'm 100% sure if he was confronted about the quality of his work, his fans would swoop in and shield him. "He already said it was bad, what more do you want?". These are the same folks that said "let the ads play" was Lewis asking 'politely' because the word 'please' was in the video somewhere.

The arrogance is also what gets me. He thinks his show impacts comic sales.
 
His fans can react however they want. I don't "want" anything. It's just amazing how a guy can buck the projected growth of a writer for so long. Imagine someone who writes all their life but still uses the same story cliches as when they were twelve.

I'm just saying, this is the guy they like.

I'm sure Marv Wolfman and George Perez would have something to say about 'releasing' the copyright of a character they created.
I suspect that the degree to which Linkara "released" the character has more to do with how indefensible his true and original copyright is in the first place.
 
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So I finally got around to reading Sailor Moon T (or at least what I could stomach). I never would have thought to marry together Sailor Moon and Diablo 2 into some expanded universe. I knew his fan-fiction was terrible, but how did he think the Sailor Moon characters were the proper people to fight demons? And yes, it reads like a script. He didn't bother to write normally, or what might be appropriate in a traditional story. And that's self-inserted Mary Sues aside.
 
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So I finally got around to reading Sailor Moon T (or at least what I could stomach). I never would have thought to marry together Sailor Moon and Diablo 2 into some expanded universe. I knew his fan-fiction was terrible, but how did he think the Sailor Moon characters were the proper people to fight demons? And yes, it reads like a script. He didn't bother to write normally, or what might be appropriate in a traditional story. And that's self-inserted Mary Sues aside.

Doesn't Lewis's oc get together with the senshi that was a dude?
 
None of the scouts were dudes. You're thinking of the Starfighters that were way later in the series.

There were legit lesbo scouts, though. Which ones did Linky's OC get wit?
 
None of the scouts were dudes. You're thinking of the Starfighters that were way later in the series.

There were legit lesbo scouts, though. Which ones did Linky's OC get wit?

Probably Sailor Uranus both due to being a lesbo and reflecting the TGWG brand of "humor"
 
I don't think he even knows how to improve. I can understand if he just wants to get someone off of his back, but in all the time that Lewis has done creative work, he's never gotten better. Even his own internal self-critique mechanism, which all creators have, should have sparked some sort of inclination to improve, but it never happens.

He writes exactly the same way now as he did in his fanfic days. He tries to write big, but I believe his problem is that he doesn't know how to make the audience feel anything. He tells you what the stakes are (in exquisitely boring detail, I might add), but he can't linger on a single non-verbal emotion.

It's difficult to say why he does that. Maybe he thinks that this might be the first time anyone has ever watched AT4W, so he has to bring the viewer up to speed ON EVERYTHING, but he doesn't see how that kills the drama.

For example, in his own fucking movie, he has that scene in which Mechakara reveals himself, and Linkara freezes. If he had the courage to simply linger on his character's fear for one fucking second instead of having his robot self to shove boring plot exposition down our throats, that would have been amazing (by Linkara standards). Heck, he does the slow turn. If he could mute the audio of that stupid robot for just a moment, he might have actually captured something. (Also doesn't help that Mechakara kind of sounds like Daffy Duck.)

And no, that wouldn't make the movie watchable, but it's an incremental improvement. If... oh, I don't know ...Linkara had, say, a decade-and-a-half of incremental improvements, maybe he'd be the industry comic book writer he always wanted to be.

He clearly wanted to make his own version of Wrath Of Khan. He should have tried actually watching the movie.
You say he hasn't gotten any better. My question is, has he gotten worse?

I'm 100% sure if he was confronted about the quality of his work, his fans would swoop in and shield him. "He already said it was bad, what more do you want?". These are the same folks that said "let the ads play" was Lewis asking 'politely' because the word 'please' was in the video somewhere.

The arrogance is also what gets me. He thinks his show impacts comic sales.
That's funny. I thought his show was bad comics with some time past, and anytime he does something modern, he has to make it a super epic review.

So I finally got around to reading Sailor Moon T (or at least what I could stomach). I never would have thought to marry together Sailor Moon and Diablo 2 into some expanded universe. I knew his fan-fiction was terrible, but how did he think the Sailor Moon characters were the proper people to fight demons? And yes, it reads like a script. He didn't bother to write normally, or what might be appropriate in a traditional story. And that's self-inserted Mary Sues aside.
As somebody who's read the manga and watched all 200 episodes of the original anime, I think Sailor Moon and her squad fighting demons isn't too out there since in the series, they take out some pretty gnarly fuckers, including the final boss of the series. Hell, the anime's formula is basically fighting whatever monsters the villains unleash, which changes every season. Granted, my knowledge of that is fuzzy and I could never really care enough to give an impassioned argument, but Sailor Scouts fighting demons isn't the dumbest thing you could do.
 
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"He already said it was bad, what more do you want?".
Yeah, the guy gets mad at every little detail in bad comics, but if somebody doesn't like his own work - "yeah, it's bad, NOW LEAVE HIM ALONE". Though you perfectly described his fans. They are like people, who still give money to Spoony. Sociopathic in their loyalty and incredibly autistic.
 
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His novel doesn't seem to be any better. The self insertion mary sue it's even more blatant as he just changed his name slightly: Lewis to Louis. And the main character also happens to be a "Christian" just like him

And the book description just outright tells us how awesome he is.

Speaking of him being a Christian, that's why I find his relationship with Iron liz odd. Not because of Liz, but rather due to the fact that most Christian denominations wouldn't approve of him dating Liz.
 
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His novel doesn't seem to be any better. The self insertion mary sue it's even more blatant as he just changed his name slightly: Lewis to Louis. And the main character also happens to be a "Christian" just like him

And the book description just outright tells us how awesome he is and how he is going to win.

Speaking of him being a Christian, that's why I find his relationship with Iron liz odd. Not because of Liz, but rather due to the fact that most Christian denominations wouldn't approve of him dating Liz.
16 dollars for this? And I thought Alpha Destiny was greedy with his book, but at least you will lift weights with that shit. With poor results and possible trauma, but still. Also, does"Empress Theresa" costs more or less?
 
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