Plagued Pizzagate / Pedogate - Batshit Conspiracy Nuts Who See Pedos Everywhere

I don't think it's particularly fair to discredit the entirety of the Pizzagate theory without providing any reasons as to why it's unreasonable (or otherwise ignorant to the point where it's not even worth properly addressing). All I've seen here are people calling the believers "crazies" and "nut-cases" without really elaborating as to why. It almost seems like gaslighting.

I personally feel that the connections the investigation draws are reasonable, such as the odd paintings and artwork involving children as well as the odd logos that the businesses near Comet Ping Pong have since changed. Could someone at the very least explain these?
 
I personally feel that the connections the investigation draws are reasonable, such as the odd paintings and artwork involving children as well as the odd logos that the businesses near Comet Ping Pong have since changed. Could someone at the very least explain these?
Well they need some operations base, and Pizza Restaurants that arent run by the mob are pretty save.
 
I don't think it's particularly fair to discredit the entirety of the Pizzagate theory without providing any reasons as to why it's unreasonable (or otherwise ignorant to the point where it's not even worth properly addressing). All I've seen here are people calling the believers "crazies" and "nut-cases" without really elaborating as to why. It almost seems like gaslighting.
Pizza-gate has always been gas-lit to sound more preposterous than it really is. The emails were important before comet ping pong became a circus. everyone become distracted with the sacrifice that the media sensationalized with FF and bull shit until it was no longer plausible to Americans. more people recognize that human trafficking is governed and more corruption will be exposed- it's not going to vindicate "pizza-gaters" in any way other than proving, the media is manipulating the situation to the public leading to compliancy.

the spiral triangles and hearts are already symbols associated with organized pedophilia, i don't think that's a coincidance but idk what it was. maybe no one sacrifices kids in the basement of Comet Ping Pong but something is fucked up blatantly. a family pizza restaurant that seems way too rough and sexual for kids. bad to host pedo-fakebands like Heavy Breathing and let them joke about kid-fucking with the audience. or hosting mock cannibal rituals. It's weird to see so many pictures that Elenfonte has on Instagram with young children that aren't his, and young girls with their hands bound by tape. Well adjusted people that you can trust your kids with, know thats inappropriate.
 
Pizza-gate has always been gas-lit to sound more preposterous than it really is. The emails were important before comet ping pong became a circus. everyone become distracted with the sacrifice that the media sensationalized with FF and bull shit until it was no longer plausible to Americans. more people recognize that human trafficking is governed and more corruption will be exposed- it's not going to vindicate "pizza-gaters" in any way other than proving, the media is manipulating the situation to the public leading to compliancy.

the spiral triangles and hearts are already symbols associated with organized pedophilia, i don't think that's a coincidance but idk what it was. maybe no one sacrifices kids in the basement of Comet Ping Pong but something is fucked up blatantly. a family pizza restaurant that seems way too rough and sexual for kids. bad to host pedo-fakebands like Heavy Breathing and let them joke about kid-fucking with the audience. or hosting mock cannibal rituals. It's weird to see so many pictures that Elenfonte has on Instagram with young children that aren't his, and young girls with their hands bound by tape. Well adjusted people that you can trust your kids with, know thats inappropriate.
Allow me to systemically address your argument, point by point.
1. Good Humor ice-cream uses a spiral heart logo as well; many other companies incorporate spiraled or nested triangles/hearts. To argue that using a symbol that looks like another symbol means that the meanings of the two symbols are connected is, quite literally, the exact same argument used to assert the Illuminati controls the United States Government from behind the scenes.
2. You may notice that this family restaurant hosts these "rough" events during the evening and night. It is very common for restaurants to cater to a family-friendly crowd during lunch and early dinner, and then transition to more adult entertainment during the night.
3. Accusing a band of being "pedos" or "fake" without substantiating that claim is moronic. Here's their site: all I'm seeing is a crappy Bandcamp noise-rock group. If you could link to direct evidence of them joking about "fucking kids" with the audience? Or these "mock-cannibal rituals" for that matter.
4. Because, of course, the only explanation for an adult being in the same photo as a child that isn't related to them is that they're a pedophile and that child is a sex slave. That is prima facie demented.
5. That image of the young girl with her hands tied to the table by tape (note that this was one photo: trying to imply his social media presence is full of these kinds of images by leaving out that piece of context and using the plural is intellectually dishonest) was the daughter of a personal friend. The caption "Found a way to get her to stay still" suggests this is a stupid, silly picture making fun of how little kids are hyperactive.

In conclusion, I will reiterate: the cornerstones of Pizzagate are that rings of elite pedophiles positioned at the highest levels of government:
-Use the exact same slang as 4channers when it comes to child porn and molestation.
-Publicly advertise their pedophilic allegiances through coded signals borrowed from NAMBLA.
-Lack any kind of infosec.
-Send each other emails that, once "decoded", boil down to "I sure love raping children, see you at the next loli snuff orgy, kthxbye!"
- Conveniently are only affiliated with one side of the political aisle.
 
Allow me to systemically address your argument, point by point.
1. Good Humor ice-cream uses a spiral heart logo as well; many other companies incorporate spiraled or nested triangles/hearts. To argue that using a symbol that looks like another symbol means that the meanings of the two symbols are connected is, quite literally, the exact same argument used to assert the Illuminati controls the United States Government from behind the scenes.
2. You may notice that this family restaurant hosts these "rough" events during the evening and night. It is very common for restaurants to cater to a family-friendly crowd during lunch and early dinner, and then transition to more adult entertainment during the night.
3. Accusing a band of being "pedos" or "fake" without substantiating that claim is moronic. Here's their site: all I'm seeing is a crappy Bandcamp noise-rock group. If you could link to direct evidence of them joking about "fucking kids" with the audience? Or these "mock-cannibal rituals" for that matter.
4. Because, of course, the only explanation for an adult being in the same photo as a child that isn't related to them is that they're a pedophile and that child is a sex slave. That is prima facie demented.
5. That image of the young girl with her hands tied to the table by tape (note that this was one photo: trying to imply his social media presence is full of these kinds of images by leaving out that piece of context and using the plural is intellectually dishonest) was the daughter of a personal friend. The caption "Found a way to get her to stay still" suggests this is a stupid, silly picture making fun of how little kids are hyperactive.

In conclusion, I will reiterate: the cornerstones of Pizzagate are that rings of elite pedophiles positioned at the highest levels of government:
-Use the exact same slang as 4channers when it comes to child porn and molestation.
-Publicly advertise their pedophilic allegiances through coded signals borrowed from NAMBLA.
-Lack any kind of infosec.
-Send each other emails that, once "decoded", boil down to "I sure love raping children, see you at the next loli snuff orgy, kthxbye!"
- Conveniently are only affiliated with one side of the political aisle.
1. Im sure you're right. spirals are everywhere and there's only so many shapes. I was refferancing the buildings on the same block as and near Comet Ping Pong: Besta Pizza (Which had the "boy lover" symbol in the logo untill it was altered after PG), Terasol (Which has the heart within heart-spiral, symbol for "girl lover" on it's webpage), Beyond Borders (Hillary Clinton Foundation' charity center for ending child slavery in Haiti, odd given Clinton Foundation's communications with Laura Silbey who was found guilty of seXtrafficking children through Haiti.)
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2. I guess so man but i have seen profanity written on the walls inside, specifically "shut up and fuck". The menus at both of his restaurants make allusions and inuendos to dicks and trashy sex. It makes him seem disingenuine to me when he tries to explain on npr that it's just a harmless pizzashop when ive seen videos inside at night that look like a bunch of drag queens are getting fucked up on meth.
3: Heavy Breathing. I probably don't need to spend much time linking things that you can find easily. I remember seeing the cover of an ep or something that they did and as far as i could tell, it looked like real child pornography. i believe this was in their previous incarnation, The Apes. zir in the mask makes casual little jokes with the with two pedos in the front row. you've probably seen the video where majestic ape coerces an underage character into sex over a chat room. And they suck. Their music is just awful, it is the most unapealing aesthetic based generic garbage-"scene" I have ever heard. I am refering to several of the other bands that play at cpp, "pedo-post-punk", it all sounds similar but heavy breathing is the worst. regarding spirit cooking being performed at cpp, i can't seem to find any clips but she gets around,
4. i'm not saying that hes a pedo for taking pictures with a kid but when paired alongside other circumstantial evidence it doesn't help. Before PZ, Alenfantes had arguments with some neighbor and he filmed a bunch of young kids running around unsupervised at night in and outside of cpp. idk where to find it
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a lot of circumstantial evidence says something weird has been going on there. people are very defensive of the media narrative with this and i think that without the context of being snopesed , most people would be concerned. Oh and I absolutely don't think that one political side is responsible or whatever, i bring Hilary up because she is so corrupt

 

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Wow, it's stupid, drunken repartee of the sort you'd expect from this kind of act, making fun of Jared Fogle. To decide that was instead some kind of overt admission of pedophilia, you'd have to START at the conclusion "This band and the people in the audience are all evil pedophiles" and work back from there. If this is scandalous and evil, than the average metal show probably makes you have an attack of the vapors.
 
Wow, it's stupid, drunken repartee of the sort you'd expect from this kind of act, making fun of Jared Fogle. To decide that was instead some kind of overt admission of pedophilia, you'd have to START at the conclusion "This band and the people in the audience are all evil pedophiles" and work back from there. If this is scandalous and evil, than the average metal show probably makes you have an attack of the vapors.
If you work backwards from that presumption you can make anybody seem like a pedo.

Even somebody who signed up for an Internet forum to white knight for pizzagaters.
 
1. Im sure you're right. spirals are everywhere and there's only so many shapes. I was refferancing the buildings on the same block as and near Comet Ping Pong: Besta Pizza (Which had the "boy lover" symbol in the logo untill it was altered after PG), Terasol (Which has the heart within heart-spiral, symbol for "girl lover" on it's webpage), Beyond Borders (Hillary Clinton Foundation' charity center for ending child slavery in Haiti, odd given Clinton Foundation's communications with Laura Silbey who was found guilty of seXtrafficking children through Haiti.)
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2. I guess so man but i have seen profanity written on the walls inside, specifically "shut up and fuck". The menus at both of his restaurants make allusions and inuendos to dicks and trashy sex. It makes him seem disingenuine to me when he tries to explain on npr that it's just a harmless pizzashop when ive seen videos inside at night that look like a bunch of drag queens are getting fucked up on meth.
3: Heavy Breathing. I probably don't need to spend much time linking things that you can find easily. I remember seeing the cover of an ep or something that they did and as far as i could tell, it looked like real child pornography. i believe this was in their previous incarnation, The Apes. zir in the mask makes casual little jokes with the with two pedos in the front row. you've probably seen the video where majestic ape coerces an underage character into sex over a chat room. And they suck. Their music is just awful, it is the most unapealing aesthetic based generic garbage-"scene" I have ever heard. I am refering to several of the other bands that play at cpp, "pedo-post-punk", it all sounds similar but heavy breathing is the worst. regarding spirit cooking being performed at cpp, i can't seem to find any clips but she gets around,
4. i'm not saying that hes a pedo for taking pictures with a kid but when paired alongside other circumstantial evidence it doesn't help. Before PZ, Alenfantes had arguments with some neighbor and he filmed a bunch of young kids running around unsupervised at night in and outside of cpp. idk where to find it
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a lot of circumstantial evidence says something weird has been going on there. people are very defensive of the media narrative with this and i think that without the context of being snopesed , most people would be concerned. Oh and I absolutely don't think that one political side is responsible or whatever, i bring Hilary up because she is so corrupt
First off, learn to use spellcheck, for Christ's sake. Second, your argument consists entirely of "Well it seems like to me", blurry videos, and saying that edgy shitty noise rock bands being edgy shitty noise-rock bands is solid proof of pedophilia. The strongest point you have (unsupervised kids running around in an adult space) happens all over, because some people are shitty parents. I've been to Slayer and Cradle of Filth concerts (both musical acts that heavily incorporate blood, gore, overt Satanic imagery, and sexual obscenity in their music and shows) that people had brought their 8-year olds to.

Once again: you have started with the conclusion "Comet Ping-Pong is a secret haven for pedophiles" and are seeking out any evidence that fits your theory, no matter how tenuous. This is the opposite of reason.
 
First off, learn to use spellcheck, for Christ's sake. Second, your argument consists entirely of "Well it seems like to me", blurry videos, and saying that edgy shitty noise rock bands being edgy shitty noise-rock bands is solid proof of pedophilia.

Yeah, that is just how it looks to me but I'm not trying to say that's solid proof. I heard the rumors going around and as soon as I researched it I was finding way way more suspicious shit than I thought I would. I really just think it's weird and I want to know what they're really doing because many things don't make sense to me,
I think kids should like Slayer, kids love edgy shit like death metal. I would be concerned if there were all these rumors going around that Slayer is trafficking children to elite politicians, then I go on Gary king's Instagram and see all these weird pictures he's taking with differant children and he's referancing code words about pedo shit and on stage he makes little jokes about fucking kids. Mostly stuff I mentioned before but if you think it's all normal than idk what to say.
Slayer is a real band though with a real sound and real fans of their music. Fake-bands are not distinct within a scene or a genre or whatever. Bands like KIX, or any less popular 80's hair metal band. I mostly feel like they're terrible the pedo-creep-act seems to be the emphasis of the band. Idk
 
Yeah, that is just how it looks to me but I'm not trying to say that's solid proof. I heard the rumors going around and as soon as I researched it I was finding way way more suspicious shit than I thought I would. I really just think it's weird and I want to know what they're really doing because many things don't make sense to me,
I think kids should like Slayer, kids love edgy shit like death metal. I would be concerned if there were all these rumors going around that Slayer is trafficking children to elite politicians, then I go on Gary king's Instagram and see all these weird pictures he's taking with differant children and he's referancing code words about pedo shit and on stage he makes little jokes about fucking kids. Mostly stuff I mentioned before but if you think it's all normal than idk what to say.
Slayer is a real band though with a real sound and real fans of their music. Fake-bands are not distinct within a scene or a genre or whatever. Bands like KIX, or any less popular 80's hair metal band. I mostly feel like they're terrible the pedo-creep-act seems to be the emphasis of the band. Idk
1. I've explained what they are doing in general; I am not going to exhaustively go through the guy's Instagram feed and analyze every single photo to show you that he's not a pedophile, but I feel like I've given sufficient explanation to show that these evidence is wildly insufficient to draw the kind of conclusions you are drawing. If you think that this isn't sufficient, it would be very nice if you would outline what your actual threshold for evidence to disprove Pizzagate (here meaning "Comet Ping-Pong is a front for child sex trafficking to pedophile elites") would be. Because every other time I've had this discussion, I've simply had my increasingly exhaustive points waved aside with "that's not enough to convince me" to the point where I realized that their rigor threshold for disproving Pizzagate was effectively infinitely high and I'd rather not trudge that road again.
2. Call me old-fashioned, but I personally don't think children should be exposed at 8 to songs about suicide, Mengele, Ed Gein, and murdering people for being "sheep", at least not by any responsible parent. I will also point out that, first off, it wasn't the owner of CPP referencing "pedo code words", supposedly, nor was the owner the person on stage. For the sake of your argument you are conflating three people into one, which, well... if you think holding people responsible for what other people say, in some cases what they say miles away and months removed from any contact with you, I don't know what to say to you. Also, joking about pedophilia is up there with dead baby jokes, swastikas on bathroom stalls, and wearing a death-metal t-shirt in church in terms of "edgy shit".
3. So the only "real" bands are famous corporate sellouts, huh? Let's make something clear: to be a band, you need to be a group of people who play instruments and record music, and nothing else. Just because you think Heavy Breathing is shit, like the 99.4% of humanity that doesn't like noise rock, doesn't suddenly make them a "fake" band that must obviously only exist to cover up other things. Also, you haven't shown my that the pedo-creep-act is the focus of the band beyond one picture that, if you squint real hard, kind of looks inappropriate and drunken banter. Serious question: have you ever seen a live show by an underground rock band? Especially one at an establishment that serves alcohol? Because that clip is TAME compared to what some post-punk groups get up to.
 
Because that clip is TAME compared to what some post-punk groups get up to.

Wait until they learn of GG "Smear my shit everywhere and cut my face open with my bare fists" Allin and all the times his shows ended with him being arrested for things that ran the gamut from indecent exposure to assault and battery.

He was the true definition of hardcore.
 
Wait until they learn of GG "Smear my shit everywhere and cut my face open with my bare fists" Allin and all the times his shows ended with him being arrested for things that ran the gamut from indecent exposure to assault and battery.

He was the true definition of hardcore.


Oh man i totally forgot about GG Allin

That guy was nuts
 
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I assume this has something to do with the whole "abducted children are brainwashed using MKULTRA to have hidden alternate child sex slave personalities" aspect of the shit sundae?

Basically a shared name between Epstein's modeling/trafficking and the Podesta email leak baby farm.

In other words, we can be sure that Hilary Clinton eats babies.
 
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So are you guys just gonna sit here jerking each other off about those zany conspiracy theorists while you carefully ignore the epstien podesta shit happening right out in the open now?

I predict in 2 years this threads devolves into "Well yeah, pretty much the whole thing was true, but those pictures of the kids being murdered was taken on a tuesday evening, not afternoon. HAHAHA BTFO conspiritards!"

How are you not all supremely embarrassed now that the epstein shit is out? You morons were covering for him and podesta, and you still are, to pwn some mentally ill weirdos obsessed with a pizza shop.

But yeah, it's all crazy right wing conspiracy theorists, there's definitely not a network of human trafficking and pedophiles. Except trump, though, he definitely was at epstein island (which is just a crazy conspiracy theory!) having sex with all the underage girls who don't exist except when he raped them.

@Senior Lexmechanic Are you a professional narrative designer or do you just do that for fun?
 
So are you guys just gonna sit here jerking each other off about those zany conspiracy theorists while you carefully ignore the epstien podesta shit happening right out in the open now?

I predict in 2 years this threads devolves into "Well yeah, pretty much the whole thing was true, but those pictures of the kids being murdered was taken on a tuesday evening, not afternoon. HAHAHA BTFO conspiritards!"

How are you not all supremely embarrassed now that the epstein shit is out? You morons were covering for him and podesta, and you still are, to pwn some mentally ill weirdos obsessed with a pizza shop.

But yeah, it's all crazy right wing conspiracy theorists, there's definitely not a network of human trafficking and pedophiles. Except trump, though, he definitely was at epstein island (which is just a crazy conspiracy theory!) having sex with all the underage girls who don't exist except when he raped them.

@Senior Lexmechanic Are you a professional narrative designer or do you just do that for fun?
1. Please do not insert words in my mouth.
2. I am not covering for Epstein. His crimes are dispicable. I'm counter-arguing the point that, based on arguments with the depth of rice paper, much of the US government is controlled by a vast, possibly Satanic, cabal of pedophiles and child murderers, at least in part because this moral panic is not only ridiculous it's virtually a re-run of the Satanic Panic at points.

The fact that there are wealthy pedophiles who cover up their crimes does not "prove" Pizzagate. In fact, there being a ring of elite pedophiles in Washington still won't prove Pizzagate. The Earth is not a sphere, and it isn't a flat disk either, but to say that the person who calls the Earth a sphere is as wrong as the person who calls it a flat disk is ludicrous.

But, if I remember correctly, you're one of the people who has an infinitely-high skepticism threshold when it comes to disproving Pizzagate, and you've already accused me of being one of "them" (which, as usual, you will handwave by saying it was "just banter"), so I will just reiterate for everyone else that Pizzagate rests on the idea that this elite ring of pedos who exist at the highest levels of government;

-Use the exact same slang as 4channers when it comes to child porn and molestation.
-Publicly advertise their pedophilic allegiances through coded signals borrowed from NAMBLA.
-Lack any kind of infosec.
-Send each other emails that, once "decoded", boil down to "I sure love raping children, see you at the next loli snuff orgy, kthxbye!"
- Conveniently are only affiliated with one side of the political aisle.
 
So are you guys just gonna sit here jerking each other off about those zany conspiracy theorists while you carefully ignore the epstien podesta shit happening right out in the open now?

I predict in 2 years this threads devolves into "Well yeah, pretty much the whole thing was true, but those pictures of the kids being murdered was taken on a tuesday evening, not afternoon. HAHAHA BTFO conspiritards!"

How are you not all supremely embarrassed now that the epstein shit is out? You morons were covering for him and podesta, and you still are, to pwn some mentally ill weirdos obsessed with a pizza shop.

But yeah, it's all crazy right wing conspiracy theorists, there's definitely not a network of human trafficking and pedophiles. Except trump, though, he definitely was at epstein island (which is just a crazy conspiracy theory!) having sex with all the underage girls who don't exist except when he raped them.

@Senior Lexmechanic Are you a professional narrative designer or do you just do that for fun?
If you wanna discuss elites pedopholia problem, feel free to start a thread on it in politics or deep thoughts subforum.

But even if you are concerned about this topic, you should realize a bunch of schizophrenic boomers who worship Qanon and see conspiracy connections everywhere won't help uncover it, they'll only work as obfuscation and a liability to law enforcement as they make rich and famous pedophiles cover up their deeds just to be safe, complicating legitimate investigations.
 
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