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Looks like Erica McCord, the person Stan Dahlin mentioned was pissed after being mentioned by Faisal, has decided to tell her side of things on twitter.

Including just non-party affidavits:

  1. Robin Michelle Blankenship McConnell @Lynchburg Christian Academy spring 1989 story - Vic wasn't there at the time, did someone have a direct refute from the school?
  2. Kara Edwards 2008 story - So many vids of her smiling at, flirting with, dancing with Vic afterwards e.g. https://youtu.be/JGHiBpHsv9k?t=271
  3. LJ Mantello "Vic stalked Mari Ijima and she was totes uncomfortable" - Did someone tease a Mari Ijima affidavit incoming? If not there's still no word from the alleged "victim"
  4. Faisal Ahmed - BTFO by Erica McCord
  5. Kelly Loftus - To be refuted
  6. Mary Reese - NOTHING TO REFUTE
  7. Whitney Falba - No names named, fantasy 14 y.o. teens spilling out of room
  8. Neysha Perry - names Dayna Price as hair-rape victim
  9. Emmett Plant - affiant confesses relationship with Neysha Perry (MORE civil conspiracy?), also names Dayna Price
  10. Adam Sheehan - no names, no evidence, squeezes in privileged Anime Matsuri slander, LIES about Shatner denying a friendship with Vic
  11. John Prager - Mari Ijima 3rd-hand + "I believe he is a predator" non-expert opinion

Incl. the parties Monica has been directly refuted by Stan Dahlin.

Obviously this is what he meant when Ron told us they were ready for the truth to come out!
 
I wonder how KickVic are gonna bully her. I mean she is a woman. Would go against their protecting women shtick
You disagree with the narrative, then you don't count as a woman. You're suffering from internal misogyny, and are a sex traitor since you clearly hate other women.

They'll call her every name in the book, hope that she dies while being violently raped, and will probably threaten to throw unsavory milkshakes at her while pretending that that's a totally okay thing to do because they're "On The Right Side Of History".
 
Including just non-party affidavits:

  1. Robin Michelle Blankenship McConnell @Lynchburg Christian Academy spring 1989 story - Vic wasn't there at the time, did someone have a direct refute from the school?
  2. Kara Edwards 2008 story - So many vids of her smiling at, flirting with, dancing with Vic afterwards e.g. https://youtu.be/JGHiBpHsv9k?t=271
  3. LJ Mantello "Vic stalked Mari Ijima and she was totes uncomfortable" - Did someone tease a Mari Ijima affidavit incoming? If not there's still no word from the alleged "victim"
  4. Faisal Ahmed - BTFO by Erica McCord
  5. Kelly Loftus - To be refuted
  6. Mary Reese - NOTHING TO REFUTE
  7. Whitney Falba - No names named, fantasy 14 y.o. teens spilling out of room
  8. Neysha Perry - names Dayna Price as hair-rape victim
  9. Emmett Plant - affiant confesses relationship with Neysha Perry (MORE civil conspiracy?), also names Dayna Price
  10. Adam Sheehan - no names, no evidence, squeezes in privileged Anime Matsuri slander, LIES about Shatner denying a friendship with Vic
  11. John Prager - Mari Ijima 3rd-hand + "I believe he is a predator" non-expert opinion

Incl. the parties Monica has been directly refuted by Stan Dahlin.

Obviously this is what he meant when Ron told us they were ready for the truth to come out!
The "truth" more defamortory statements in order to slander vic
 
There is also this picture of him where Vic literally looks like PRINCE CHARMING.
Vic's very good looking for his age- but HOLY FUCKING SHIT this man was gorgeous when he was younger!
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Is this going to turn into some Araki shit?

Roussey wore a Vegeta "Over 9000" shirt for her Wrestlemania 31 segment with Dwayne The Rock Johnson, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon, a few years before she joined WWE as a wrestler.

I also recall another UFC fighter (Barao IIRC, sp?) wearing a DBZ scouter for his fight entrance on PPV sometime around 2012-2013. He won.
And the next year, The New Day dresses like Saiyans. Still though, anime isn’t super popular to the average Joe.

I want some kickvic morons to start FLIPPING OUT about this on Twitter, but which group is stupid enough to believe that this 11-year-old video was made last week?

Personally I'm leaning towards REEEEEra, but PULL is also a strong contender. Kanzenshuu is out because I actually saw someone there say Nick wasn't Vic's lawyer.
Hard to say since FMA (either one) hasn’t been popular for a decade. Also, I’m watching Brotherhood right now and it’s really good. Mustang is cool, and Olivier is a bitch.
 
Including just non-party affidavits:

  1. Robin Michelle Blankenship McConnell @Lynchburg Christian Academy spring 1989 story - Vic wasn't there at the time, did someone have a direct refute from the school?
  2. Kara Edwards 2008 story - So many vids of her smiling at, flirting with, dancing with Vic afterwards e.g. https://youtu.be/JGHiBpHsv9k?t=271
  3. LJ Mantello "Vic stalked Mari Ijima and she was totes uncomfortable" - Did someone tease a Mari Ijima affidavit incoming? If not there's still no word from the alleged "victim"
  4. Faisal Ahmed - BTFO by Erica McCord
  5. Kelly Loftus - To be refuted
  6. Mary Reese - NOTHING TO REFUTE
  7. Whitney Falba - No names named, fantasy 14 y.o. teens spilling out of room
  8. Neysha Perry - names Dayna Price as hair-rape victim
  9. Emmett Plant - affiant confesses relationship with Neysha Perry (MORE civil conspiracy?), also names Dayna Price
  10. Adam Sheehan - no names, no evidence, squeezes in privileged Anime Matsuri slander, LIES about Shatner denying a friendship with Vic
  11. John Prager - Mari Ijima 3rd-hand + "I believe he is a predator" non-expert opinion

Incl. the parties Monica has been directly refuted by Stan Dahlin.

Obviously this is what he meant when Ron told us they were ready for the truth to come out!
Emmett Plant also tweeted the day after he alleges he saw Vic assault the woman. He makes no mention of Vic pulling hair, but instead creepily talks about how pretty he thinks Vic's hair is.

 
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You realize there actual victims criticizing you right? And you try to come off like you're some unsung hero. If you knew this for years, why didn't you tell anyone. The whole notion that he's too powerful in the industry is BS man
 
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You realize there actual victims criticizing you right? And you try to come off like you're some unsung hero. If you knew this for years, why didn't you tell anyone. The whole notion that he's too powerful in the industry is BS man

She literally, 100%, completely and utterly, outright fucking says that she was TRIGGERED by some FAKE TICKLE RAPE and a mother fucking dance THAT SHE DRAGGED VIC INTO. Kara- Eat shit and go hurl yourself off a building you disgusting, pathetic waste of human life.

Kara Edwards is the perfect example of the type of person that should have never been born- she should have been nothing more than a crusty jizz stain on the parking lot ground behind your local DENNY'S.

And before anyone beats me to it- you bet your Kiwi Asses I'm MAD AT THE INTERNET. God DAMN I hate these fucking scumbags, I hope she gets crucified by Chupp.
 
I don't get how they thought people would just accept this shit when it comes to localization considering anime itself started out from a bunch of subtitled edited vhses
it's basically alienating a niche hobby even further.

As someone who doesn't bother to watch subs unless it's something I really want to see and I don't want to wait, I didn't notice there was anything different at all. I'd still watch the dub over the sub with Hajimete no Gal because I prefer the localized jokes enough to ignore the one scene. Something like Gamergate would be noticeable even to a casual/dub fan, because Japan shouldn't know about that, but in general the edits just fly under the radar. I never knew there was this controversy at all until this whole situation, and I rarely bother to watch anything that isn't anime.

Fake Jesus enters the fray, finds NASCAR man without even being tagged.

Is retweeted by Shane:


Who is this guy lol? His entire timeline is cringe. Him and the twitter account who plays "God" grind my gears with their holier than thou attitude, ironically.

It's annoying these kinds of things are just accepted. It's always some snarky atheist playing these kinds of things, and their jokes are always lame 'this is how I think this religion I don't believe in should be' quips.

It's the UK version. Vic is literally the only VA listed on the front. And it's on multiple boxes like that one.

Fai's also one of the most popular characters. It doesn't matter that he isn't the 'main' character. Li and Fai are the most popular characters in the anime, the former because he's the protagonist, and the latter because he's the prettiest man there - whether you like the pretty boys or whether you're a fujo, it has the same popularity boost. I suspect crediting him had more to do with who he was playing than who he was.

I would love to know why they asked not to be assigned to vic in those years, but honestly it could be something simple like handling his fans or just not wanting to deal with a large crowd those years.

That yahoo mail group mentioned that it's tough to be his handler. You have to establish his boundaries for him (not because he doesn't understand boundaries, but because his fans don't), you have to watch him to make sure you can yank him out in time for his panels, make sure he takes breaks for food (or bring it to him) and you don't really get breaks. He's a tough guest to wrangle.

I want some kickvic morons to start FLIPPING OUT about this on Twitter, but which group is stupid enough to believe that this 11-year-old video was made last week?

Personally I'm leaning towards REEEEEra, but PULL is also a strong contender. Kanzenshuu is out because I actually saw someone there say Nick wasn't Vic's lawyer.

Remake the video with topical images instead of Edward and then post it on youtube if you want them to take the bait.

Lynn Hunt and the John Prager both give similar accounts of Vic stalking Mari Iijima and her needing to change rooms, except she says it happened in 2007 while he says it was 2010. She also says that Vic was found in his hotel room with one underage girl while Whitney Falba says that it was three. Their alleged head of security, John Prager, doesn't mention this incident at all. Another Tekko staffer said on Twitter that he got a DUI shortly before the 2007 convention and was replaced that year and his apparent absence was not mentioned at all in his affidavit.

Jacqueline L. Miller is the woman who accused Vic of asking her husband if she was "easy"
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So personally i suspect what Vic actually said, assuming it's true, is something to the effect of "Wow, she's part of the Miniskirt Army, huh? [I expect her husband might have been a Ranger] Is she easy to live with/is it easy to live with her?" Her having a poor grasp of English and probably not paying much attention then thought he said 'is she easy' as in an easy lay.

Of course, there's the slight possibility that he really did say "Wow, she's part of the Miniskirt Army? Is she easy?" and meant it like that, but it wasn't a scummy womanizer thing to say, it was just a crass joke playing into the rivalry, same as any other derogatory joke he could have made about smeone being part of his rival's faction. You can make a dirty joke between adults and not have actual sexual intent to it. Even a phrase that means "Is she an easy lay" has a huge difference between 'a friendly jab', 'a cruel remark', and 'a perverted inquiry like one Lemoine might make about consluts'.

Again, though, that subtlety would be lost on someone who didn't understand English very well. (Which is why a normal and well adjusted person would communicate that discomfort so it could be cleared up, instead of holding a grudge for ten years and lambasting them on twitter long after the person in question would have totally forgotten that conversation).
 
She literally, 100%, completely and utterly, outright fucking says that she was TRIGGERED by some FAKE TICKLE RAPE and a mother fucking dance THAT SHE DRAGGED VIC INTO. Kara- Eat shit and go hurl yourself off a building you disgusting, pathetic waste of human life.

Kara Edwards is the perfect example of the type of person that should have never been born- she should have been nothing more than a crusty jizz stain on the parking lot ground behind your local DENNY'S.

And before anyone beats me to it- you bet your Kiwi Asses I'm MAD AT THE INTERNET. God DAMN I hate these fucking scumbags, I hope she gets crucified by Chupp.
Now now, revenge is best served cold. Unlike karma or praying that they'll change, the pay off will be quite real. Assuming funi doesn't get out of the lawsuit, Sony will clear house. The conventions will have to rethink policies. And every person who gave an affidavit will be remembered for it. Looking for new voice acting work? Sure, but please tell me you're not so-and-so from the Vic case? Oh. You are. We'll get back to you.

To be fair, it's a rose tinted look at things. At worst the roaches will slink off elsewhere and spew their filth about someone else to everyone who'll listen, but the past crops up when you least expect it. What I would give to see how things are a year or two from now...
 
Now now, revenge is best served cold. Unlike karma or praying that they'll change, the pay off will be quite real. Assuming funi doesn't get out of the lawsuit, Sony will clear house. The conventions will have to rethink policies. And every person who gave an affidavit will be remembered for it. Looking for new voice acting work? Sure, but please tell me you're not so-and-so from the Vic case? Oh. You are. We'll get back to you.

To be fair, it's a rose tinted look at things. At worst the roaches will slink off elsewhere and spew their filth about someone else to everyone who'll listen, but the past crops up when you least expect it. What I would give to see how things are a year or two from now...

Of all the things I have heard from Shane, Amanda Winn Lee, Monica, Ron, Jamie, and whoever the fuck else... NO ONE has pissed me off like Kara "Tickle Rape" Edwards has.

God... sorry for my Autistic Sperging, but fucking christ these people are the goddamn worst.
 
Looks like Erica McCord, the person Stan Dahlin mentioned was pissed after being mentioned by Faisal, has decided to tell her side of things on twitter.

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Here's Faisal's story from his affidavit for a lie check:
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Are we able to confirm that this is actually her? Cause this is devastating if we can.
 
Looks like Erica McCord, the person Stan Dahlin mentioned was pissed after being mentioned by Faisal, has decided to tell her side of things on twitter.

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Here's Faisal's story from his affidavit for a lie check:
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I wonder if it's misconduct to completely fail to fact check an affidavit by a guy who was arrested for filing a false police report. As a lawyer you can't know everything and to some extent have to take the word of people who swear to something outside of your specific knowledge, but J. Dolf Lemongrab has produced nearly nothing but pure perjury, and it's not even like it's been hard to expose it.

I would love to know why they asked not to be assigned to vic in those years, but honestly it could be something simple like handling his fans or just not wanting to deal with a large crowd those years.

She specifically said she NEVER asked that. It's just a completely made-up lie.
 
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