Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

yeah ok so monica did lie about the reason they talked about recasting him, right? she said in her depo that it was because the japanese VA had been recast for the new movie, and nick said he thought it probably wasn't true, and i'm sure others have checked but i did too and it turns out it's complete bullshit, the japanese VA didn't change. and the tone of her voice and general expression during that answer--as well as her comment about her poor name not being on the box of tsubasa reservoir chronicle--does lend credence to the idea that it was out of jealousy, even though i'm torn.

because it was obviously a lie. she made it sound like funimation had told her that were talking about replacing vic because the other VA changed, but since that's not true, they obviously made no such statement to her.

maybe i am just naive but i really struggle hard to believe that they did this just out of petty, jealous, junior-high spite.
You're naive then. These people are incredibly petty to the point that they'd rather commit career seppuku than be outed for being a bunch of liars. They just block out the other side for not sharing their same opinions and refuse to listen to counter points. They know they are lying but hoping they can play on the human factor to garner sympathy for themselves in a desperate attempt to drum up support for their side. They've lied to a man's face for a decade and they've taken to making fun of him like they were a bunch of school children on a playground. They are absolutely capable of doing all this for purely petty reasons.
 
Should probably mention: Erica, just like Stan, isn't just coming in blank here.

She, just like Stan, is pissed the hell off for getting dragged into this shitstorm.

 
From Jamie's TCPA
"Plaintiff then has the audacity to interpret how Jamie should have felt" (in regards to the supposed hair pulling incident.

Is this not exactly what every single defendent and "victim" is doing? "vic hugged me cause he wanted to rape me" "vic kissed me cause he's a creepy sexual deviant" "vic touched me in a sexually suggestive way"

All of the stories are each person's interpretation. Vic interpreted it as kindness, friendship, whatever. SJW's (and/or those with a reason to grind a man into the dirt) interpret it as rape. None of the claims are grabbing genitalia, penetration, hand down the pants etc etc. Even my own decision to support either IV or ISWV is all my interpretation. There is NO evidence one way or the other on either side. It's interpretation of someone's demeanor, personality, mannerisms. I feel (interpret) these women and men are all nasty bitches with an axe to grind. Reading between the lines is so much easier when none of them shut the fuck up and every tweet piled on the real reasons they brigaded to do this to Vic.
So, cooties? It’s worse than high school, then! We’re full Little Rascals, only not funny.

This Vic situation has taught me not to believe random rumors on the internet but I 100% believe this one.
It's bad enough Vegeta and Piccolo sound the exact same, last thing Super dub fans need is a 3rd main Sabat character.
While this seems believable, I’m still doubting because this rumor is just an extension/derivative of the Toei rumors.
 
Well there's Yamcha
At least it's more than just deep gravily voice, he has an accent. But seriously, how many fucking characters does he need to voice?

Originally I was hoping that the Broly moving wouldn't get added to the show like BoG and R:F but now with this Vic situation I hope Broly becomes Goku's new BFF and the sequel to Super revolves all around him.
 
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Should probably mention: Erica, just like Stan, isn't just coming in blank here.

She, just like Stan, is pissed the hell off for getting dragged into this shitstorm.

Is this a normal thing, regular people being po’d that they’re being used as pawns in SJW chess? Also, does Ty have any course for getting Stan and Erica to prove the affidavits wrong?
 
Should probably mention: Erica, just like Stan, isn't just coming in blank here.

She, just like Stan, is pissed the hell off for getting dragged into this shitstorm.


This is the kind of shit that makes me believe they're petty highschool kids. They gossip and run off rumor enough to put it in a fucking court doc.

I completely believe the random younger people who have said that the kiss on the cheek or whatever made them uncomfortable. Everything makes weebs uncomfortable. These bitches he worked with though? Not for a moment. If they can by their own words lie for a decade why on Earth are they trustworthy now.

Is this a normal thing, regular people being po’d that they’re being used as pawns in SJW chess? Also, does Ty have any course for getting Stan and Erica to prove the affidavits wrong?

From their perspective these people are endangering their future business prospects. Would you want to hire the girl falsely accusing her last boss?
 
I wonder if it's misconduct to completely fail to fact check an affidavit by a guy who was arrested for filing a false police report. As a lawyer you can't know everything and to some extent have to take the word of people who swear to something outside of your specific knowledge, but J. Dolf Lemongrab has produced nearly nothing but pure perjury, and it's not even like it's been hard to expose it.



She specifically said she NEVER asked that. It's just a completely made-up lie.

What does it say regarding the filing that the affidavit is filed as part of? What does it say when there are multiple instances of this? At what point is not simply the included exhibits, but the TCPA itself struck for being complete bullshit, if not actual perjury? That front page picture for example. If that is the one we believe it is, the one that ANN had to takedown, than more and more the document resembles an attempted fraud on the court. What is the remedy for that?
 
You're naive then. These people are incredibly petty to the point that they'd rather commit career seppuku than be outed for being a bunch of liars. They just block out the other side for not sharing their same opinions and refuse to listen to counter points. They know they are lying but hoping they can play on the human factor to garner sympathy for themselves in a desperate attempt to drum up support for their side. They've lied to a man's face for a decade and they've taken to making fun of him like they were a bunch of school children on a playground. They are absolutely capable of doing all this for purely petty reasons.

yeah i didn't mean i think they are just being petty now, i meant that i really would rather not believe that such petty, juvenile thinking was the initial impetus behind this (clearly coordinated) attack.

i have sisters though, so i do know how insanely evil girls can be to each other for no reason. i guess i am just horrified by the fact that this goes far beyond a bunch of catty D-list celebrities taking out one of their long-time colleagues with baldly false accusations. this could only occur at this point in the larger gender/culture war, which gives you an idea of the climate, and not just that, but they are promoting this as righteous to young girls (who populate twitter in droves). the best i can say is that i really sincerely hopes this court ruling sets a precedent, and more men are successful in fighting back. if i'm being honest, i think they deserve a lot more than to pay an arm and a leg to him.

the issue as i see it is they are stopping just short of calling him a rapist, but because they are heavily implying that he's basically everything else, he may as well be a rapist. i suppose because if they made actual false rape claims, they would be subject to a lot more scrutiny, and this does the job just as well for their purposes without getting too messy for them (or so they thought). my point is, if a false rape accuser should get jail time (and i think they should), then these fucking whores ought to get the same because of the way they're using their accusations. i think we never really dealt with the fact that social media started off as considered just virtual fun and games, but now is used as a serious, basically primary means of communication that might as well serve the same purpose as a street corner used to. these bitches deserve to burn.
 
Is this a normal thing, regular people being po’d that they’re being used as pawns in SJW chess? Also, does Ty have any course for getting Stan and Erica to prove the affidavits wrong?

He already has an affidavit from Stan regarding Monica’s testimony, and her statements to Funi, etc. Stan is devastating because it attacks not simply anaother witness, but the defendants direct claims. And those claims were already rife with inconsistency. And Monica’s claims were referenced in both Funi and MoRonica’s TCPA.
 
Should probably mention: Erica, just like Stan, isn't just coming in blank here.

She, just like Stan, is pissed the hell off for getting dragged into this shitstorm.

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Jesus fucking christ, The KickVic side keep accidentally redpilling people by accidentally throwing them under the legal bus based on... rumor and the hope that the rumors are true / that they hate Vic as much as they do?
 
yeah i didn't mean i think they are just being petty now, i meant that i really would rather not believe that such petty, juvenile thinking was the initial impetus behind this (clearly coordinated) attack.

i have sisters though, so i do know how insanely evil girls can be to each other for no reason. i guess i am just horrified by the fact that this goes far beyond a bunch of catty D-list celebrities taking out one of their long-time colleagues with baldly false accusations. this could only occur at this point in the larger gender/culture war, which gives you an idea of the climate, and not just that, but they are promoting this as righteous to young girls (who populate twitter in droves). the best i can say is that i really sincerely hopes this court ruling sets a precedent, and more men are successful in fighting back. if i'm being honest, i think they deserve a lot more than to pay an arm and a leg to him.

the issue as i see it is they are stopping just short of calling him a rapist, but because they are heavily implying that he's basically everything else, he may as well be a rapist. i suppose because if they made actual false rape claims, they would be subject to a lot more scrutiny, and this does the job just as well for their purposes without getting too messy for them (or so they thought). my point is, if a false rape accuser should get jail time (and i think they should), then these fucking whores ought to get the same because of the way they're using their accusations. i think we never really dealt with the fact that social media started off as considered just virtual fun and games, but now is used as a serious, basically primary means of communication that might as well serve the same purpose as a street corner used to. these bitches deserve to burn.

You are overly optimistic. This isn’t something unique and new. It’s one of the darker aspects of human history. People forget that things like the Salem Witch trials were predicated on “mean girl” shit. There is a reason the Bible goes into detail regarding the sin of “bearing false witness”. It’s been a problem and a mechanism for petty power and influence for all of human history. Men used to duel. Women... did this. And white knighting for the womenfolk is nothing new.
 
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Jesus fucking christ, The KickVic side keep accidentally redpilling people by accidentally throwing them under the legal bus based on... rumor and the hope that the rumors are true / that they hate Vic as much as they do?

By the time we get to trial, I expect every single thing the KV side to be so poisoned by the refutations we've gotten and are still getting that all Ty will have to do is run down a list of inconsistencies in the other side's case, then wait for the verdict to render his client the win he wants.
 
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Jesus fucking christ, The KickVic side keep accidentally redpilling people by accidentally throwing them under the legal bus based on... rumor and the hope that the rumors are true / that they hate Vic as much as they do?

TCPA Arc isn't even over yet and we already have a potential best girl thrown into the mix.

Now this is weeb wars.
 
By the time we get to trial, I expect every single thing the KV side to be so poisoned by the refutations we've gotten and are still getting that all Ty will have to do is run down a list of inconsistencies in the other side's case, then wait for the verdict to render his client the win he wants.

Really wonder what Volmer will report to the rest of Funi after representing them since he's having to answer for a stupid mean girls cult at their workplace.
 
You are overly optimistic. This isn’t something unique and new. It’s one of the darker aspects of human history. People forget that things like the Salem Witch trials were predicated on “mean girl” shit. There is a reason the Bible goes into detail regarding the sin of “bearing false witness”. It’s been a problem and a mechanism for petty power and influence for all of human history. Men used to duel. Women... did this. And white knighting for the womenfolk is nothing new.

lol. i must have just stumbled on the single most cynical corner of the internet then, for myself to be called an optimist.

i completely understand the mechanism by which these people are trying to gain ground, but these things appear to come in cycles, and i guess i am saying, it seems we have become particularly off-balance at this point, at least compared to the early-to-mid-20th century. and i don't think the purpose of ISWV is merely to shove it up rial and marchi's bitch asses. the goal would be to push back the other way and bring things back into some semblance of balance.

but right, i know--we all die anyway lol.
 
1. Disassociative Identity Disorder is a very debated mental illness with a lot of professionals contending that it's not real or at least certainly nothing like how it's been described. Really doesn't help that the most prolific cases of DID have admitted to playing up symptoms or outright making shit up at the encouragement of their doctors.

2. The few that do diagnose people with DID generally describe symptoms akin to BPD or PTSD. Nothing close to the anime-esque "completely different person inside me" shit. Actually, IIRC, the "real" DID cases aren't even supposed to be aware of the other personalities, their thoughts, or even their actions (assuming, of course, that symptom isn't just made up bullshit).

It is a contended diagnosis for sure but it's certainly real, albeit a bit outdated. DSM-5 is quite clear about it and the diagnosis procedures. It will likely be reclassified under the same umbrella as stuff like schizophrenia and other dis-associatives, but it's still a valid diagnosis as of now. It still describes the pattern of behaviour shown by Shayu, namely a sense of possession, breaks of memory and different perspectives. Now there is always the possibility of patients lying, but that is mitigated by long term observation. From what I've seen over the past months I would most certainly say he has some form of psychosis at least, warping his perspectives. I also feel he is playing it up after years of not seeking help making him more grounded in his delusions, but that doesn't mean the symptoms aren't there, just that the patient strengthens them. DID? I'd say so from what i've seen and heard from him, but differential diagnosis is often possible with dis-associative disorders. My point is more to demonstrate that he isn't fully aware of what he's saying all of the time, and frankly says some stupid shit because of it. Not to insert morals, but more to illustrate what you're looking at.

Also, remembering the other personality's actions isn't a diagnostic criteria, but it's not uncommon for them to forget swathes of time. What you say about borderline personalities is something I'd earlier attribute to frequent comorbitalities, in the same manner schizophrenia has many comorbitalities, meaning that people with disassociative disorders often have many symptoms of other disorders or conditions that would otherwise not be present in someone with only, say, DID. These are more or less frequent, depending on the disorder. This would explain the lying by prominent subjects.
 
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