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I agree with the last part, but is this really cancel culture's doing? When I started looking into it I saw some parallels to the Vic case but as I kept going it became apparent that he'd been a major shit to lots of people and it had all just come to a head because of the age we live in.

He'll be back, being a shitty boyfriend/co-worker/friend isn't a crime so heinous that his talent wont be able to outweigh the negatives, breaking his NDA wasn't a smart idea but hey at least they did go around telling people he fucks kids every chances he gets.

I mean, we could just have different conclusions, but when I looked at the accusations I determined they didn't have enough merit to be true. I know he confessed, but...you know, confessing doesn't mean you actually did it, it means you think admitting to it will punish you less than denying it. So, in my opinion, he's a victim of cancel culture. Still a dick, mind you, but ultimately ruined by people making accusations and people believing them. (Even before he apologized, he still got the 'Vic treatment', it was just the pre-2019 Vic treatment)

He probably has a better chance than Vic since there's less people running around calling him a rapist (though tumblr still is), but he's also one of those 'just getting his foot in the door' kind of VAs, so him recovering is in my opinion harder than if it were Vic. Why bring in a guy with a history of scandal, even if it's relatively minor, when he has nothing to offer that another young talent might not have? From my understanding he used TFS as a springboard to help him grow, and as they're allergic to any kind of scandal I assume they're also dropping him from any future projects as well, so I assume he's burnt that bridge too.

🤷‍♀️ I can't say for sure. I just assume a minor VA like him can be felled much more easily than a major one like Vic. I accept I could be wrong, though.
 
I mean, we could just have different conclusions, but when I looked at the accusations I determined they didn't have enough merit to be true. I know he confessed, but...you know, confessing doesn't mean you actually did it, it means you think admitting to it will punish you less than denying it. So, in my opinion, he's a victim of cancel culture. Still a dick, mind you, but ultimately ruined by people making accusations and people believing them. (Even before he apologized, he still got the 'Vic treatment', it was just the pre-2019 Vic treatment)

He probably has a better chance than Vic since there's less people running around calling him a rapist (though tumblr still is), but he's also one of those 'just getting his foot in the door' kind of VAs, so him recovering is in my opinion harder than if it were Vic. Why bring in a guy with a history of scandal, even if it's relatively minor, when he has nothing to offer that another young talent might not have? From my understanding he used TFS as a springboard to help him grow, and as they're allergic to any kind of scandal I assume they're also dropping him from any future projects as well, so I assume he's burnt that bridge too.

🤷‍♀️ I can't say for sure. I just assume a minor VA like him can be felled much more easily than a major one like Vic. I accept I could be wrong, though.
If he's innocent like you speculate then admitting to it was dumb as fuck, looking at his apologies it seems pretty obvious that he feels that he's wrong these people in some way. It wasn't even one of those blanket apologies like the one Vic put out (which was monumentally stupid as well). I think this'll hurt him short term, as we've come to see the world of VAs is full of dickheads so I doubt too many studios will hold that against him in the long term. Being small time might actually benefit him as it's less likely to be far reaching unlike Vic where he'd just had a starring role in a big anime movie and had been a 20 year veteran. I only think ugliest and saltiest of tumblr or PULL denizens will even remember most of this by the start of winter.

I actually think him breaking an NDA is worse for his future business prospects than the rest of it, that was a big oof to be making this early on in a career. "Chris breaks NDAs" is probably more off putting for studios than "Chris was kind of a shitty person at one point".
 
Toei will for sure never let TFS voice any character that VA had voiced before, but it's possible they might be allowed as another character. Toei hasn't stopped Funimation from casting multiple TFS members as custom voices in Xenoverse games yet. That said, I remember people saying Japan demanded Vic to be cast as Broly again, so regardless even if Sabat had hoped to give them Broly, Toei clearly didn't go along with that.
Toei doesn't do anything in relation to the video games cause that's up to Namco Bandai's discretion for the most part. And when it comes to localization for the video games, it's done by Bandai themselves which then gets dubbing done by Sabat's studio directly.

Toei needs to get grow a sense of humor anyway, they are way too upset about something that is clearly mocking the show in good fun. Also the Buu saga is getting released in batches, so that they're not drip feeding episodes. They've said this multiple times
Toei doesn't hate DBZA cause they mock DBZ, they hate it cause it uses their property (i.e. the anime footage) without permission and make money off the property. TFS can call it a parody all they want and give that little blurb in the beginning of videos but it would not save them were Toei to actually pursue legal action.
 
Just a reminder that Japan still controls copyright to many of the IPs these companies dub for and that at the end of the day because of this, all dub companies are beta bitches to chad japan.

ie piss off japan with this shit for too long and they'll just search for a non-exceptional dub company.

Edit: oh and fun fact? hanlei may have fucked her chances at getting a job in the anime industry. They do not like shit-stirrers. Further, its likely they've heard of the incident that got her so made.... and let's just say, that kinda art is distasteful even in japan.

Vic should start his own dubbing studio and call it Chad Dubbing. :v
 
Toei doesn't hate DBZA cause they mock DBZ, they hate it cause it uses their property (i.e. the anime footage) without permission and make money off the property. TFS can call it a parody all they want and give that little blurb in the beginning of videos but it would not save them were Toei to actually pursue legal action.
Exactly this, and their incestuous relationship with Funi VAs is the buoy that keeps them afloat. Cross-contamination with VA swapping needs to end, it's no wonder quality is mocked in dubs. TFS got some reparations to pay Toei big time.
EDIT: Looks like Monica is playing a character in Why The Hell Are You Here, Teacher!? which is a show from last season. Not a Funi dub, but a Sentai dub.
Doesn't that feature teachers fucking under-aged students? HMMM, surely that isn't awkward given the current Vic case.
They'd better fuckin not make Rial the brown swimsuit QT...
 

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>She said that this incident has gone down in convention lore and that she and Travis get asked about it a lot. "When I'm 60 I'll be able to show my grandkids like, remember when mom was cool and grandma was cool and she used to drink tequila, here watch 48 videos about it."

"When I'm 60 I'll be able to show my grandkids..."
isn't this bitch over 40 already, with not a single kid in sight? i wonder where those grandkids are supposed to come from :thinking:

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>She said that this incident has gone down in convention lore and that she and Travis get asked about it a lot. "When I'm 60 I'll be able to show my grandkids like, remember when mom was cool and grandma was cool and she used to drink tequila, here watch 48 videos about it."

"When I'm 60 I'll be able to show my grandkids..."
isn't this bitch over 40 already, with not a single kid in sight? i wonder where those grandkids are supposed to come from :thinking:
The fact she wanted to do stupid stuff so that her non existent grandkids could hear it is pathetic. What, you don't think your voice acting career is cool?
 
Shane claimed it was so a few months back. They took it as gospel, even though afaik Vic isn't currently dating.
even if he was, i dont see the relevance outside of this supposed date having the same last name as his lawyer. but i guess people like shame are too dumb to realise multiple people can have the same last name and not be related (for generations at least)
 
even if he was, i dont see the relevance outside of this supposed date having the same last name as his lawyer. but i guess people like shame are too dumb to realise multiple people can have the same last name and not be related (for generations at least)
Though I think he wants to focus on the age gap. Which is different from grooming when it's just by knowledge.
 
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in a duet with Nathan Sharp, who apparently got caught making false rape accusations a year or so ago

Natewantstobattle? Wait someone made accusations against him or he made a false accusation? Also funny you should bring him up, he's the one performing the Dub opening theme for the universe survival arc

or he wanted the opportunity to squeeze in a TFS member as Broly

Explained later on, I really doubt they could've gotten away with this given what a big hate boner they have for TFS. Also I doubt Sabat or whoever at Funi would immediately put them in a starring role. They'd give it to another VA (like Sabat)

A much earlier (circa Kamehacon) video had Nick hinting that Sabat had refused to cast some women who wouldn't have sex with him. He's never backed that claim up though, and basically never talks about it. It's been suggested and theorized that the woman in question was Nadolny, but since she's kickvic, it's hard to say.

I think why he never brought it up is because he couldn't verify it or he was implying that he doesn't know if it does happen, but there are scenarios around Sabat that indicate that might be.

I'm confused. Why is kickvic dragging up a niche anime? Does it have some relevance? Are they really still that butthurt that one mangaka decided to just man up and follow through on the incest instead of flirting with it and then making a flimsy excuse about how it doesn't count? It didn't even get a dub because people got so pissy about it. How is it relevant?

The Japanese are weird, either that or they're way ahead of their time. Plenty of good things get pissed on because of that.

uh oh

Did hanleia just pussy out.

And completely destroy funimations TCPA claiming hanleai was the reason the investigation over vic mignogna started

LOL. Probably doesn't want to go to court and explain to everyone about exactly why she didn't like Vic.

They might be able to do extra voices in DB, but no way Toei would let a TFS member play Broly with how asshurt they are about the abridged series.

Toei will for sure never let TFS voice any character that VA had voiced before, but it's possible they might be allowed as another character. Toei hasn't stopped Funimation from casting multiple TFS members as custom voices in Xenoverse games yet. That said, I remember people saying Japan demanded Vic to be cast as Broly again, so regardless even if Sabat had hoped to give them Broly, Toei clearly didn't go along with that.

KaiserNeko is a random Frieza soldier in Resurrection F.

Quite surprised to hear that and that he was part of that fake cell re-enactment too, but yeah, Toei *really* doesn't like them. A shit load of their episodes got copy struck last year or the year before leaving their entire channel fucked for a while.

The last few videos for DBZA have been pretty hot and cold

Lol. That's a mild way of putting it. That 3 parter for episode 60 was probably the only good work they've put out in a while. That Dbz Kai abridged episode was shit IMO compared to their previous work

Going to be interesting to see if they say anything about daddy Sabat when his role in the Vic saga is revealed, especially with all the skeletons that are apparently hiding in his closet (if Nick's blueballing is to be believed).

They won't say shit about it because per their social media appearance, they support victims but don't want to take a stance on the whole thing. Basically, they're kickvic but trying to pretend otherwise. It's been established. Further I think their chichi VA had a sperg out and accidentally revealed she was kickvic last month or earlier this month. I glossed over it in my feed but I think Senpaiishome and Emosh tweeted about it.

The Broly Movie meme came from people ignoring that they make the movies in order and constantly demanding that they skip right to Broly. (That, and I think Lanipator is part of the half of the fandom that just hates pre-Super Broly)

All of the DB content creators hate pre super Broly because

1) he's voiced by vic (and we know what their take on him is),

2) he very neatly summarizes Dragon Ball in his characater (beefy characters fucking the shit out of everyone and having weird and cool transformations)

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3) per 2, they try to vehemently disagree that that's what dragon ball is about (despite it absolutely being the case, just with martial arts sprinkled in). Also because this is what 99% of the Dub community believes DB is about, and the content creators are sub elitists trying to pretend like they didn't grow up on the Funimation and Ocean dubs.

They'll almost certainly not say a single thing about Sabat unless Vic comes in and becomes the new Don or something. Even if Sabat gets knocked off his perch, they exist on Funi's whim and it's in their best interest to always stay on Funimation's good side.

At the end of this, Vic will not take over Sabat's role as Don. As unfortunate as it may be, if you look and pay attention to vic you can see that's not what the guy is about. Also he won't have that kind of pull with funimation because he doesn't have his own studio like Sabat does.

You can argue that he can open his own studio (which, again, I doubt he will) and get all the business, but Sabat probably has a monopoly of all things VA in Texas atm. Not to mention alot of the guys giving him work really don't give two shits if Sabat tried to sabotage vic. Most of them are on Sabat's side. Prime example, Funimation.

There's still a better than average chance the waves of this lawsuit will wash TFS away by the end of this.

Probably not if they aren't involved in any way or if they're smart. We all know what they're really like, but the more stupid fans might be swayed by their "we don't have a stance" statement. Likewise, these stupid fans could also be swayed if they release a statement about just how "sorry" they feel for vic, should all of Sabat's shit go public.

Not worked up in the slightest, guess I'm just fed up with the "making youtube videos is soooooo hard you guys, I'm totally depressed again!" spiel that comes out of every bigger youtuber's mouth at least once a year.

Although it might be justified in some cases, it's sad that YT has become a job now rather than a hobby for alot of people.

The issue is not making the videos, the issue is trying to keep your view and sub counts stable or increasing. The real test is whether you're quick and smart enough to adapt your content to keep your viewers sufficiently entertained. Pewdiepie is probably a good example for this. His content keeps changing. When he first started out he did games, then he did comedy skits, then he was a commentary Channel, heck, up until about a month back he was all about Memes and now he's doing minecraft vids
 
Evidently she can see the farms.

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Edit: The dumb thot is doubling down.
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I'd concede that it'd be unpleasant to think that a person would go through so much effort to track down a relatively ugly (on the outside, completely ugly on the inside) nobody cosplayer, except that the point is that it was really really easy to dox the thot because she posted all of her shit publicly online. It's hard to make the "really hateful to go through the effort" argument if it took basically no effort at all.

Also I always have a solid chuckle when they don't dare to say "Kiwi Farms," like it's their version of Voldemort. Additional chuckle at the remark that the forum is full of hateful men when our local Doxemon WeebWars gym master is @emspex
 
I'd concede that it'd be unpleasant to think that a person would go through so much effort to track down a relatively ugly (on the outside, completely ugly on the inside) nobody cosplayer, except that the point is that it was really really easy to dox the thot because she posted all of her shit publicly online. It's hard to make the "really hateful to go through the effort" argument if it took basically no effort at all.

Also I always have a solid chuckle when they don't dare to say "Kiwi Farms," like it's their version of Voldemort. Additional chuckle at the remark that the forum is full of hateful men when our local Doxemon WeebWars gym master is @emspex
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So one of the law maggots who gloats about dunking on "normies" gets dunked on completely destroying his attempt to try and say "Just hire pr firm lay low and comeback a couple of months later" statement.
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For you Kiwis elsewhere than in God's country, we have fireants. These insidious little bastards make soft little mounds waiting for someone (or something) to step into or otherwise disturb the mound. They come boiling out, coloring the ground like some kind of angry liquid. If you know you've stepped in one, you run for your life. But typically you keep on going in ignorance until the swarm has taken up positions all over you and in a single assault, death!

The mega dose of formic acid hits your nervous system and you screech like a banshee and jerk around like a marionette tangled with a rabbit. You have to beat yourself within an inch of your life and dousing yourself in gasoline seems attractive (ask me how I know). I have seen cows killed and planes crashed by inadvertently coming into their little pockets of hell.

TL;DR This shit brain just willingly stood in a fireant hill.
 
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I'd concede that it'd be unpleasant to think that a person would go through so much effort to track down a relatively ugly (on the outside, completely ugly on the inside) nobody cosplayer, except that the point is that it was really really easy to dox the thot because she posted all of her shit publicly online. It's hard to make the "really hateful to go through the effort" argument if it took basically no effort at all.

Also I always have a solid chuckle when they don't dare to say "Kiwi Farms," like it's their version of Voldemort. Additional chuckle at the remark that the forum is full of hateful men when our local Doxemon WeebWars gym master is @emspex

I think atleast around 50% of the people doxxed are male, well genetically atleast.
 
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