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madethistocomment said:
According to my ex-First using friends who are quite pissed with RT right now, RT moved a lot of privileges that the First users had to First+, while also jacking the price of First+ up to 120 dollars that you have to pay upfront and all at once, which a lot of them just can't afford.

RT just doesn't have enough content, let alone good content, to warrant that sort of price. Netflix at least has the excuse of having an absolute shit ton of content on it so it's worth the money. They also break up the payment method into monthly increments so it's not such a blow to your wallet. RT, on the other hand, has like four semi-watchable shows of varying quality. Nobody wants to pay $120 just to watch a handful of "meh" shows.

It makes me wonder what's going on to make them hike up their prices so much. Is it the Vic situation? Them hemorrhaging viewers? The fact that they got multiple multi-million dollar actors to do voices for a show that like eight people watched? Them finally trying to pay their animators decent wages? The world may never know.
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As much as the Vic situation might seem important or big news to people in the know like you and me, I don't think that it's likely that the Vic drama is a primary cause of RT going under. In fact, I think it explains why RT was more than willing to just terminate their relationship with Vic without a single moment's hesitation, because they want to avoid any bad press or any bad publicity at all costs. It was a knee-jerk, poor business decision more than anything because the folks they are in bed with are highly toxic cretins like Chris Sabat and his cavalcade of knuckledragging epsilons who make forum posts and go on Twitter whining about how "they'll never watch an RT production again if Vic is a voice actor".

In many ways, I think that it's a symptom of some greater media "collapse" that is imminent. I don't think it'll be a full crash a la video games circa 1983 but something seems to be happening across the board in all media industries from comicbooks, to video games, to movies, and TV shows. I couldn't for the life of me tell you why this is happening. Some people think it has to do with the "get woke go broke" (GwGb) principle, but I'm not wholly convinced that that principle has as big of an effect as one might think.

Perhaps is has something to do with over-saturation. Perhaps GwGb is at play after all. Perhaps nothing is wrong and we're just making a big deal about nothing. Like you said, we may never know.
 
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
So they’re so out of ammo that they have to attack his looks like petty high school girls, huh?
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It all just boils down to envy in the end. There's a big reason why envy is considered one of the seven deadly sins, not to mention that Envy in FMA is also popular in their own right. (It's also been a long while since I last saw FMA, but Envy is considered to be one of the most backstabbing, and dangerous of the Homunculus, right? Art imitates life, and vice versa.)
 
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Doodle said:
Perhaps is has something to do with over-saturation. Perhaps GwGb is at play after all. Perhaps nothing is wrong and we're just making a big deal about nothing. Like you said, we may never know.
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Much of the media is so shit people are avoiding it because it's just garbage. It's probably not even a conscious decision for people who don't care about culture war bullshit in the least. It's just that the complete shit these people are churning out wouldn't be worth spending time on for free, much less actually giving money to scummy, reprehensible shit people.
 
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jameshameson said:
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Just typed the brian s thompson name on facebook.

The dude is litreally a moderator for monica rials facebook fan club
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Yeah that explains how much of a sperg.from what I've seen so far most people who support the defendants turn out to be very exceptional individual like brian for example.
 
Kari Kamiya said:
It all just boils down to envy in the end. There's a big reason why envy is considered one of the seven deadly sins, not to mention that Envy in FMA is also popular in their own right. (It's also been a long while since I last saw FMA, but Envy is considered to be one of the most backstabbing, and dangerous of the Homunculus, right? Art imitates life, and vice versa.)
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Yes, he is, and he really lives up to his name. Envy makes people fight other; the catalyst for the war that has a significant impact on the show's main characters was by his doing.
 
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Doodle said:
As much as the Vic situation might seem important or big news to people in the know like you and me, I don't think that it's likely that the Vic drama is a primary cause of RT going under. In fact, I think it explains why RT was more than willing to just terminate their relationship with Vic without a single moment's hesitation, because they want to avoid any bad press or any bad publicity at all costs. It was a knee-jerk, poor business decision more than anything because the folks they are in bed with are highly toxic cretins like Chris Sabat and his cavalcade of knuckledragging epsilons who make forum posts and go on Twitter whining about how "they'll never watch an RT production again if Vic is a voice actor".

In many ways, I think that it's a symptom of some greater media "collapse" that is imminent. I don't think it'll be a full crash a la video games circa 1983 but something seems to be happening across the board in all media industries from comicbooks, to video games, to movies, and TV shows. I couldn't for the life of me tell you why this is happening. Some people think it has to do with the "get woke go broke" (GwGb) principle, but I'm not wholly convinced that that principle has as big of an effect as one might think.

Perhaps is has something to do with over-saturation. Perhaps GwGb is at play after all. Perhaps nothing is wrong and we're just making a big deal about nothing. Like you said, we may never know.
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It's happening because of their favorite word..."Intersectionalism." Just not the kind they worked for.

First, you have to understand that a lot of this is hard left political at the core. The media/Hollywood messaging, the schools pushing diversity/sex/politics on kids, the various issues on as a result of social media, the snowflake BS...all this crap are things most people just don't want to deal with and they are pissed when they are being forced to change their values, behaviors and lives to comply with shit they want no part of.

Everyone has a pain threshold. Some people are willing to endure a lot before they finally say ENOUGH! and so far, that's been why the dipshits have been able to grab all manner of power across the various institutions and media.

Now, finially, people are hitting that threshold and seeing that they/their social circles, arent the only ones.

As for entertainment itself, just compare any modern outlet/product to 20-30 years ago. The modern crew is just rehashing/rebooting what was great then and fucking it up. Where is today's Evangellion, Terminator or Star Trek/Star wars? The modern versions are pure shit and no one in the mainstream has the talent to make anything new that's worth a fuck. Thats why the streaming services have failure after failure and their vintage content is their solid revenue stream.

And with nothing but snowflakes making games//TV/Movies/Books/Comics in the mainstream...and doing it with political/woke agendas, don't expect a change.
 
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jameshameson said:
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Just typed the brian s thompson name on facebook.

The dude is litreally a moderator for monica rials facebook fan club
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That is correct, he is a misinformation agent for Monica they same way Shoe Eater was for Ron Toye and DumbSkye is for Marchi.

Edit: now that I think about it, Manjaw is associated with ShayuKitsune who was caught in the Marchi discord leak.
 
Doodle said:
As much as the Vic situation might seem important or big news to people in the know like you and me, I don't think that it's likely that the Vic drama is a primary cause of RT going under. In fact, I think it explains why RT was more than willing to just terminate their relationship with Vic without a single moment's hesitation, because they want to avoid any bad press or any bad publicity at all costs. It was a knee-jerk, poor business decision more than anything because the folks they are in bed with are highly toxic cretins like Chris Sabat and his cavalcade of knuckledragging epsilons who make forum posts and go on Twitter whining about how "they'll never watch an RT production again if Vic is a voice actor".

In many ways, I think that it's a symptom of some greater media "collapse" that is imminent. I don't think it'll be a full crash a la video games circa 1983 but something seems to be happening across the board in all media industries from comicbooks, to video games, to movies, and TV shows. I couldn't for the life of me tell you why this is happening. Some people think it has to do with the "get woke go broke" (GwGb) principle, but I'm not wholly convinced that that principle has as big of an effect as one might think.

Perhaps is has something to do with over-saturation. Perhaps GwGb is at play after all. Perhaps nothing is wrong and we're just making a big deal about nothing. Like you said, we may never know.
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As someone who's been watching general culture and trying to guess where it is going, I can give a good guess. The rubberband snapped.

Our culture was pushing for an ideal that demanded tons of benefits. Equality of opportunity, and relief for the lowest of status. But eventually, it demanded so much that systems holding their ideals together snapped and now everything is falling apart.

Equality of sexes was something that was being pursued, but the metoo movement is ironically creating a patriarchal system due to men not wanting to engage with woman in the workplace anymore.

And now we have social networking being on track to allowing information to spread on a speed never before seen bending used in a way that forces the people to inherently distrust it leading to social bubbles where information isnt spread.

It isnt a takeover form some nebulous force or the actions of a secret cabal. It's just the natural result of the endless pursuit of liberty. It's ironic that I would say liberty is the problem, because that would imply i have an issue with being free. I dont of course, but I do have an issue with the lack of responsibility these people have.

Look back at all the people in this controversy. Has anyone owned up to anything yet? Theres always mentioning of "doubling down" but why would they always do that? Because if they didn't they would have to own up to their mistake and take responsibility for their actions. They want to do anything they want and not deal with any negative consequence that comes from that action. They want to make publish their political opinions but get offended and remove the other sides opinions. They want to change popular products to ones that appeal to them and their beliefs. And if you disagree, they'll ignore you, remove you, or even destroy you. Because they want to do anything without negative consequence.

But the rubberband snapped, and now they have no choice but to deal with it.
 
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AnOminous said:
Much of the media is so shit people are avoiding it because it's just garbage. It's probably not even a conscious decision for people who don't care about culture war bullshit in the least. It's just that the complete shit these people are churning out wouldn't be worth spending time on for free, much less actually giving money to scummy, reprehensible shit people.
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Pretty much. I just kinda stopped subscribing to cable at least a year ago. Between all the free shit you can watch on the internet (legit and otherwise) and paid services who needs that shit? Especially the news channels. They all fucking suck, right and left.
 
Mary Catherine Reese

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(also pictured, some old mare)
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Another of the affiants from Rial and Toye's recent TCPA motion. Mary has works at conventions as a handler and Special Guest coordinator. She really went the extra mile in her affidavit to slag Vic, and it really appears that she outright hates him.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MaryReese_FL
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mary.reese.50

Dox:
16033 Sharewood Dr.
Tampa, Florida 33618
DOB: 6/14/1958
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And what an amazing piece of property it is. This picture is amazing for so many reasons.

But before we talk about the elephant in the room, we should talk about the elephant in the room. It's not very often you see someone in red trunks in the KickVic corner.

Breaking the law, breaking the law:
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It seems like even though Mary was wise enough to protect her Twitter account some time ago, she's still fallen in with a bad crowd:

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The archive actually catches Mary's account before she went protected.

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Of course Mary's connection to all of this is Kara Edwards. She's the person Kara reported Vic to immediately after . . . the next day . . . two days after he supposedly trapped her in his room and kept whispering, "Let me bet sweet to you," to her. Here's Kara and Mary at Shadocon 2010.

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They were recently together again at Metrocon 2019 along with a few other familiar faces. That's Monic in front, you can see Kara peeking up her head in the back. Why even Josh Grelle is there. If you don't remember him (I mean who would) he was one of the idiots that bailed on Kameha Con to join Monica at her own little signing event. I doubt anyone missed him. Maybe you should actually try to avoid making it look like a conspiracy guys.

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But let's cut right to meat. In her affidavit, Mary has a lot to say about Vic, but she recalls two very specific events with a considerable amount of detail for something that happened almost two decades ago.

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(Affidavit of Mary Reese - pg. 326 — 327 Rial and Toye's TCPA Motion)

I wonder if there's anything to corroborate those statements. Why it appears that there is! I wonder if they used these to help refresh their memory a little bit when trying to put together a convincing story.

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What I'm really curious about is how these appear to be spun as something else well after the fact. In particular, the smiley face in the photo with Vic at the piano seems like an odd touch. Now it wouldn't be so strange if she had posted these on Friday right after they were taken, but these were posted in November, several months after the convention and after Kara would have told Mary about the terrible assault perpetrated on her by Vic Mignogna. Sounds more like she might have mentioned a slightly intimate encounter that's since been blown completely out of proportion.

Bonus Cow Crossover: ShadoCon 2010 Edition

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Bonus Hot Take: Mary is better looking at 61 than Monica is at 43
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Credit to @Far Queue for the write up
 
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Doodle said:
As much as the Vic situation might seem important or big news to people in the know like you and me, I don't think that it's likely that the Vic drama is a primary cause of RT going under. In fact, I think it explains why RT was more than willing to just terminate their relationship with Vic without a single moment's hesitation, because they want to avoid any bad press or any bad publicity at all costs. It was a knee-jerk, poor business decision more than anything because the folks they are in bed with are highly toxic cretins like Chris Sabat and his cavalcade of knuckledragging epsilons who make forum posts and go on Twitter whining about how "they'll never watch an RT production again if Vic is a voice actor".

In many ways, I think that it's a symptom of some greater media "collapse" that is imminent. I don't think it'll be a full crash a la video games circa 1983 but something seems to be happening across the board in all media industries from comicbooks, to video games, to movies, and TV shows. I couldn't for the life of me tell you why this is happening. Some people think it has to do with the "get woke go broke" (GwGb) principle, but I'm not wholly convinced that that principle has as big of an effect as one might think.

Perhaps is has something to do with over-saturation. Perhaps GwGb is at play after all. Perhaps nothing is wrong and we're just making a big deal about nothing. Like you said, we may never know.
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I think it is a combination of things.

One, loans and credit constantly forcing companies to look for new markets.

Then social media hit its stride so companies created new jobs to handle it. Unfortunately all of these were given to leftists.

So SJWs start saying "hey, gay and trans people are a market that would be interested in your products."

Companies responded with "yes, help us speak homo and feminist."

Then when the backlash came management was shut into an echo chamber by the social media department. No one is questioning why their actions aren't translating into success.

So these corporations are stumbling around like blinded giants.
 
JosephTX said:
Mary Catherine Reese

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(also pictured, some old mare)
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Another of the affiants from Rial and Toye's recent TCPA motion. Mary has works at conventions as a handler and Special Guest coordinator. She really went the extra mile in her affidavit to slag Vic, and it really appears that she outright hates him.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MaryReese_FL
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mary.reese.50

Dox:
16033 Sharewood Dr.
Tampa, Florida 33618
DOB: 6/14/1958
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And what an amazing piece of property it is. This picture is amazing for so many reasons.

But before we talk about the elephant in the room, we should talk about the elephant in the room. It's not very often you see someone in red trunks in the KickVic corner.

Breaking the law, breaking the law:
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It seems like even though Mary was wise enough to protect her Twitter account some time ago, she's still fallen in with a bad crowd:

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The archive actually catches Mary's account before she went protected.

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Of course Mary's connection to all of this is Kara Edwards. She's the person Kara reported Vic to immediately after . . . the next day . . . two days after he supposedly trapped her in his room and kept whispering, "Let me bet sweet to you," to her. Here's Kara and Mary at Shadocon 2010.

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They were recently together again at Metrocon 2019 along with a few other familiar faces. That's Monic in front, you can see Kara peeking up her head in the back. Why even Josh Grelle is there. If you don't remember him (I mean who would) he was one of the idiots that bailed on Kameha Con to join Monica at her own little signing event. I doubt anyone missed him. Maybe you should actually try to avoid making it look like a conspiracy guys.

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But let's cut right to meat. In her affidavit, Mary has a lot to say about Vic, but she recalls two very specific events with a considerable amount of detail for something that happened almost two decades ago.

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(Affidavit of Mary Reese - pg. 326 — 327 Rial and Toye's TCPA Motion)

I wonder if there's anything to corroborate those statements. Why it appears that there is! I wonder if they used these to help refresh their memory a little bit when trying to put together a convincing story.

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What I'm really curious about is how these appear to be spun as something else well after the fact. In particular, the smiley face in the photo with Vic at the piano seems like an odd touch. Now it wouldn't be so strange if she had posted these on Friday right after they were taken, but these were posted in November, several months after the convention and after Kara would have told Mary about the terrible assault perpetrated on her by Vic Mignogna. Sounds more like she might have mentioned a slightly intimate encounter that's since been blown completely out of proportion.

Bonus Cow Crossover: ShadoCon 2010 Edition

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Bonus Hot Take: Mary is better looking at 61 than Monica is at 43
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Credit to @Far Queue for the write up
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Fucking christ I wasn't expecting a wild nostalgia critic to enter the fray.
 
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Tipsy Tea Cup said:
The insurance agency is gonna need receipts for those parts that you claim to be OEM.


He was a daily sperg for awhile. I reference him as BT Sperg in my summaries. His full name is Brian S Thompson from South Carolina. I was going to doxx him but I have doubts in my sources atm.
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If it has to do with his age his birthday is listed on his MAL page. http://archive.fo/L2xaJ
 
DanDanielson said:
Pretty much. I just kinda stopped subscribing to cable at least a year ago. Between all the free shit you can watch on the internet (legit and otherwise) and paid services who needs that shit? Especially the news channels. They all fucking suck, right and left.
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People forget that cable was a legitimate solution to the problem of distributing niche programming at a profit. What we're seeing now is the start of a collapse for the system that replaced it.

Remember the old complaint, "there's 150 channels and nothing's on!" Well, there was something on, you just weren't the market for it at that moment. There was a sci-fi channel, kids' channel, fashion/gossip channel, military history channel, country music channel, food channel, etc. There is no consumer demographic that would have willingly purchased all those channels at once. They were only profitable because they were part of the bundle pricing.

Fast-forward to the "unplugged world". Netflix, Hulu, and YouTube have everything, so I'll cancel cable! A bold new world of digital streaming!

And then the streaming services fragment. Now you can't get everything on Netflix and Hulu; you need HBO for Game of Thrones, Starz for The Evil Dead series, CBS Access for Star Trek: Discovery, Crunchyroll for your weeb shit, etc. You still need Netflix for The Office and Hulu for all those sitcoms you binge. And soon you'll need Disney for their entire catalog, the DC app for your terrible superhero soap operas, and so on.

Then the adpocalypse hit YouTube. Now your favorite creators can't make money any more. Support my Patreon or I go back to my 9-to-5 jobs! And anyone big enough to not need Patreon has a new show behind the YT Red paywall.

Which brings us to RT, who made their own individual paywall. That makes them Yet Another Streaming Service, which means they're only a must-have as long as they are holding very popular titles hostage with exclusivity.

If they were on cable, they could survive a low point by coasting on the package deal inclusion, and rebuild their channel (or their portion of someone else's channel). But they're an a la carte service, which carries both potential for higher profits and risk of completely failing.
 
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