Megathread Insane Parents of "Transgender" Kids - Parents who push a transgender identity on their children


'The treatment of GD in childhood with hormones effectively amounts to mass experimentation on, and sterilization of, youth who are cognitively incapable of providing informed consent.'
This was also in the abstract.

"A review of the current literature suggests that this protocol is founded upon an unscientific gender ideology, lacks an evidence base, and violates the long-standing ethical principle of 'First do no harm.'"

It's disturbing that a scientific report is needed to tell people this shit is harmful.
 
Turns out puberty blockers aka cancer drugs/sex offender castration drugs are bad. Who would have thought?


Puberty blocking drugs: ‘For the past four years I’ve been stuck as a child’

Lucy Bannerman

Jacob has just turned 16 and for the past four years the teenager’s body has been put on pause. He has been on hormone blockers to stop puberty while he decides how far he is willing to go to become a transgender man.

He claims that taking blockers was “the worst decision I’ve ever made”.

Jacob was born a girl but felt unhappy with his gender. “I always felt so weak and pathetic and inferior to the men.” He started using the male pronoun and imagined himself growing up and “dating a woman”.

When Jacob became one of thousands of young adolescents to be referred for puberty blockers by the NHS’s main gender clinic for children he was delighted. “It was sold to me as a miracle cure for being trans,” he claimed. He told another trans school friend about them, who started requesting blockers too.

Hormone blockers are only licensed in Britain to delay the onset of puberty for children suffering “precocious puberty” — that is, those who start developing abnormally early before the age of eight or nine.

However, their use is promoted by the transgender campaign group Mermaids as a way of giving young people “a pause button” while deciding whether to graduate to the irreversible, cross-sex hormones that will trigger the life-changing, fertility-reducing jump from one gender to another, once they reach 16. The vast majority of children who begin blockers go on to take that step.

Blockers are physically reversible, insofar as puberty will eventually restart once someone stops taking them. But no one — not even the directors of the country’s leading gender clinic, the Tavistock’s Gender Identity Development Service [GIDS] — knows their long-term impact, for example, on the teenage brain.

After just a few consultations at the Tavistock, Jacob was referred to the endocrinology clinic at University College London Hospitals [UCLH]. He claimed the clinic did not consider his background, such as the trauma of a sexual assault at primary school, or his parents’ difficult divorce. He and his mother were soon making regular visits to London from their small village in the west of England for the injections.

“They promise you that your breasts will disappear, that your voice will be deeper, that I would look and sound more like a boy. For me, that was the best thing that could have happened,” he said.

Only, Jacob found that wasn’t what happened at all. Far from becoming one of the lads, as he’d hoped, he felt even more alienated from them as their physiques changed and Jacob’s remained the same.

“At school, other people were maturing into adults. The guys I grew up with were growing hair and growing up. For someone who’s trying to fit in as a boy, that’s not what you want.”

Jacob had always been the tallest among his friends. Now he was the shortest. When his little brother overtook him in height and strength, he found it too upsetting to be in the same room as him.

“My little brother is 18 months younger and now he has completely outgrown me. I go to school and I feel like other people are developing and I still feel like a child,” he said.

Jacob also claims he was not warned about the side-effects of the drugs.

These have included insomnia, exhaustion, fatigue, low moods, rapid weight gain which caused his skin to become covered with angry, itchy stretch marks, and a reduction in bone density. “I’d never broken a bone before [taking puberty blockers],” he says. “I’ve since broken four bones.

“I stubbed my toe, it broke. I fell over, my wrist broke. Same with my elbow.”

As he took the blockers, Jacob’s mother watched her child become even more introverted and body-conscious. “The blockers contributed more to the self-image problems that were already there,” she said.

Jacob found it increasingly difficult to concentrate on schoolwork. If sitting GSCEs is hard enough with raging hormones, it’s even harder without them, he said. “I’m someone with the developing mind of a 12-year-old who’s doing exams designed for a 16-year-old.”

He added: “The worst part was probably the depression. There were moments when I wanted everything to stop. Weight gain and depression — for someone who is already self-conscious about their body, that’s a lethal combination.”

Clinicians who resigned from Gids for ethical reasons said one of their main concerns was that young people were being sent down a medical pathway without proper exploration of the possibility they may simply be gay.

Jacob is no closer to understanding who he may be attracted to at 16 as he was at 12. “My friends are all talking about having sex and girlfriends, and going to prom. . . but I’ve never had a crush. I’ve never felt sexual attraction to anyone. I feel so out of place.”

In hindsight, Jacob finds it surprising how little his background — and the reasons why he didn’t want to be a girl — were discussed before being referred for treatment.

“They didn’t even look at my history or trauma,” claimed Jacob. “They sent a child whose circumstances and feelings they didn’t understand [for hormone treatment].”

Jacob is speaking out about his experience to warn other transgender youngsters to think twice before starting blockers.

“I was sold a miracle cure. They promised happiness with little evidence behind it. Then four years in, you realise, oh my God, I’ve no idea about the long-term effects.

“They asked a 12-year-old to make a decision an adult would struggle with.

“It was like, ‘here are the drugs’ and off we went. It’s a ridiculous process. It’s not gone the way they told me it was going to go.”

Mermaids, the transgender lobby group, claims that puberty blockers are safe and “completely reversible” and that not giving them to youngsters who request the can be more damaging than prescribing them.

Gendered Intelligence, another trans campaign group, claims on its website that hormone blockers give children “breathing space to ensure that they are sure about the permanent effects of cross-sex hormones, without the adverse effects of an incorrect puberty.”

Jacob is scathing about such claims. “Breathing space! It really isn’t. I’ve not had any space to breathe the last four years.

“They sell it to you as a break from feeling like a girl, and that’s fine for the first few months but as soon as everyone else around you starts developing it becomes ‘spot the transgender kid’, which is so easy because you’re stuck as a child.

“If anything, I’ve been more depressed than before. My thyroid is messed up. I’m hungry all the time. I have no idea how my breast tissue will develop.”

He claimed: “They push and push you on to this one-way train you’re not allowed off.”

Asked whether it was misleading to promote puberty blockers as a “pause button”, a spokesman for Mermaids said: “Mermaids cannot comment on clinical cases as we are not involved in any individuals’ medical pathways.

“We offer young people and their families information, support and access to others in similar circumstances.”

Gendered Intelligence declined to respond.

Jacob claims the main focus of his treatment at the Tavistock was on the milestones of transition — “how far you’re willing to go” — rather than discussion of the consequences.

He claims: “My Tavistock worker was saying to me, ‘once you have the testosterone, you’ll be a boy’.

“But it shouldn’t be about milestones. Being trans is how you think; it should not be about how far down the line you’re will to go.”

A spokesman for Tavistock said: “All young people considering the puberty blocker or cross-sex hormones are repeatedly made aware of the known potential impacts of these medical interventions . . . as well as the areas of impact that remain to some extent unknown.

“The information that we give patients about the blockers makes it clear that they may get tired and experience low mood. We explain to young people that hormones give us energy and drive, not just our sex drive but our overall ‘get up and go’.

“We also emphasised to them routinely that while on the blocker they would stay early puberty whilst their peers developed. This is a routine part of the discussion.

“In the end the decision to go on blockers is a balancing act weighing up these factors against the perceived distress of undergoing puberty in the ‘wrong’ gender and developing unwanted and potential hard to change secondary sexual characteristics.”

Jacob decided to come off the drugs on turning 16. He began to feel the benefits almost overnight.

“I grew taller, I lost weight, I felt livelier. It was like getting the poison out of my system,” he said. He will now wait until reaching 18 before making any big decisions.

“I’m just fed up with all of it. I’ve felt like a guinea pig from day one. [Blockers] only made my life more complicated and it was pretty complicated already.”

He added: “I’ll be 18 in two years, but for the past four years I’ve been stuck as a child. Blockers took away the chance I had to grow up with other kids. Now I want to give my body a break.”
 
Turns out puberty blockers aka cancer drugs/sex offender castration drugs are bad. Who would have thought?

And of course the scumfucks who lied to this poor girl are washing their hands of it.

The 2020s are going to be a fun decade as this shit keeps blowing up.
 
And of course the scumfucks who lied to this poor girl are washing their hands of it.

The 2020s are going to be a fun decade as this shit keeps blowing up.

Sue the motherfuckers. These fucking slimeballs need to be kicked out of the profession and/or criminally prosecuted.
 
It’s good to remember that legal adulthood isn’t that commonly used as the measurement for medical treatments. For example breast reduction isn’t recommended till at least 21 preferably after 25 because that’s how long breast are actively growing. If you do serious rearranging before breast are naturally done, the healing and end result are unpredictable and likely uneven. Also because the surgery is likely to affect and be affected by tard cum production, it’s recommended if children are something desired, make babies before surgery.

The NHS and the US going with GnRH agonists was, I assume, chosen because they have been used in children before. Also based on the lie that they're reversible. They're not, except in the very technical sense where if you stop injecting them then the gonads function normally again. Except the kid is still robbed of vital pubertal development.

The actual harm-reduction method should have been either:

1. Wait until trans kids are 25, when all of puberty is done, then put them on the normal adult HRT regimen. You can use counseling in the meantime or something.

2. Get them on HRT as soon as they're the age to undergo a "normal" puberty, SRS at 25.

Somehow everyone decided to go with the standard of care that actively harms children. The current crop of kids delaying puberty with GnRH agonists alone are going to be breaking their hips left and right in their early 30s.
 
The NHS and the US going with GnRH agonists was, I assume, chosen because they have been used in children before. Also based on the lie that they're reversible. They're not, except in the very technical sense where if you stop injecting them then the gonads function normally again. Except the kid is still robbed of vital pubertal development.

The actual harm-reduction method should have been either:

1. Wait until trans kids are 25, when all of puberty is done, then put them on the normal adult HRT regimen. You can use counseling in the meantime or something.

2. Get them on HRT as soon as they're the age to undergo a "normal" puberty, SRS at 25.

Somehow everyone decided to go with the standard of care that actively harms children. The current crop of kids delaying puberty with GnRH agonists alone are going to be breaking their hips left and right in their early 30s.

There's two schools of thought in psychiatry, as Scott Alexander describes here. The current state of trans-psychiatry is definitely Attitude 1 in the above example. Psychiatry sees a ludicrously high rate of suicidal thoughts in trans teens and comes to the decision that a quick medical transition is the best option. Don't get me wrong, this doesn't mean it's a good option, just the best that is available. The field is also likely influenced by the current cultural zeitgeist concerning gay rights, in that trying to tell someone "no, you're not really transgender, you're just using that as a maladaptive coping mechanism" could easily be interpreted as conversion therapy, which is unacceptable.
 
There's two schools of thought in psychiatry, as Scott Alexander describes here. The current state of trans-psychiatry is definitely Attitude 1 in the above example. Psychiatry sees a ludicrously high rate of suicidal thoughts in trans teens and comes to the decision that a quick medical transition is the best option. Don't get me wrong, this doesn't mean it's a good option, just the best that is available. The field is also likely influenced by the current cultural zeitgeist concerning gay rights, in that trying to tell someone "no, you're not really transgender, you're just using that as a maladaptive coping mechanism" could easily be interpreted as conversion therapy, which is unacceptable.

Ding Ding Ding

Where were all these trans kid suicides for the last 100 years? realistically the number of gender dysphoria cases should be very small and almost none existent in children.
 
Ding Ding Ding

Where were all these trans kid suicides for the last 100 years? realistically the number of gender dysphoria cases should be very small and almost none existent in children.

Children are being induced into dysphoria. Tomboyish girls are being told they are "trans men" by some schools now. I remember one kid getting mad at the school and insisting that she is not trans, but just a tomboyish girl.

Good thing the parent was siding with the girl. This kind of induced dysphoria is the worst thing ever.

I'm not a professional or anything of the sorts, but it's common sense to not tell kids they're trans!
 
There's two schools of thought in psychiatry, as Scott Alexander describes here. The current state of trans-psychiatry is definitely Attitude 1 in the above example. Psychiatry sees a ludicrously high rate of suicidal thoughts in trans teens and comes to the decision that a quick medical transition is the best option. Don't get me wrong, this doesn't mean it's a good option, just the best that is available. The field is also likely influenced by the current cultural zeitgeist concerning gay rights, in that trying to tell someone "no, you're not really transgender, you're just using that as a maladaptive coping mechanism" could easily be interpreted as conversion therapy, which is unacceptable.
This is why gender issues have no place being linked to LGB. Speaking of conversion therapy, the trans movement really loves to push that instead of being opposed to it. "It doesn't matter what your sexuality is! You WILL accept my girlpeen/boipussy, bigot!" It's also saying that an effeminate gay man or Butch lesbian must be trans because clearly if you don't fit into a neat little box of outdated stereotypes you're the opposite sex. Pushing this shit on confused adults is gross enough but to do it to children who are still discovering themselves and growing is outright abuse. I hope we see lawsuits against the clinics, doctors and parents within the next decade or so.
 
Children are being induced into dysphoria. Tomboyish girls are being told they are "trans men" by some schools now. I remember one kid getting mad at the school and insisting that she is not trans, but just a tomboyish girl.

Good thing the parent was siding with the girl. This kind of induced dysphoria is the worst thing ever.

I'm not a professional or anything of the sorts, but it's common sense to not tell kids they're trans!
I remember being a young boy and telling my mom I wanted to be a girl during an angry fit. My mom laughed at me.

I shudder to think what could have happened had my mom said "Okay you're my little girl then, let's get you some new clothes and call you Cathy."
 
I remember being a young boy and telling my mom I wanted to be a girl during an angry fit. My mom laughed at me.

I shudder to think what could have happened had my mom said "Okay you're my little girl then, let's get you some new clothes and call you Cathy."
Thank goodness it didn't go any further for you.
 

Now this is baffling. You started with 1 boy and 1 girl, and now you have 1 "boy" and 1 "girl". And both of them have a higher chance of not making it to 30 years old, all because they likely wanted to --God forbid -- play with the others' toys and wear their clothes.

If someone's grown up with siblings of a different gender, of course you're going to want to find some common ground.
 
Now this is baffling. You started with 1 boy and 1 girl, and now you have 1 "boy" and 1 "girl". And both of them have a higher chance of not making it to 30 years old, all because they likely wanted to --God forbid -- play with the others' toys and wear their clothes.

If someone's grown up with siblings of a different gender, of course you're going to want to find some common ground.
Grew up in a brother and sister household and can confirm, there were violent altercations over a certain kitchen set with vanilla scented fake muffins, and the TMNT submarine, not to mention the box full of Batman shit. I never thought of that time as particularly enlightened, but at least neither one of us got trooned out. We also used to dress in each other's clothes for pranks. What is going on with these parents that they are so drastically misinterpreting normal childhood stuff?
 
What is going on with these parents that they are so drastically misinterpreting normal childhood stuff?

If you don't believe biological sex is tied to gender, then you have to follow other cues such as the stereotypically gendered products that feminists have been railing against for at least 50 years :^)
 
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Now this is baffling. You started with 1 boy and 1 girl, and now you have 1 "boy" and 1 "girl". And both of them have a higher chance of not making it to 30 years old, all because they likely wanted to --God forbid -- play with the others' toys and wear their clothes.

No big deal. If they kill themselves from the trauma this has caused them, then the shitty parent will just get more asspats for being so brave and beautiful.
 
Now this is baffling. You started with 1 boy and 1 girl, and now you have 1 "boy" and 1 "girl". And both of them have a higher chance of not making it to 30 years old, all because they likely wanted to --God forbid -- play with the others' toys and wear their clothes.

If someone's grown up with siblings of a different gender, of course you're going to want to find some common ground.

Oh no, I used to wear my older brother's hand-me-downs. Am I going to become a troon?
 
Also I gotta say it:

1. Fat, hideous mother clearly loving the shit out of what is probably the only positive attention she has gotten since she was a newborn.

2. Jewish last name. It's not that I go looking for these things, it's just that they keep popping up and making me wonder what the actual fuck is going on in certain cultural subgroups to make them so fond of certain types of perversion.
 
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