Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Kate Farms Shill]

Not my phone lol. It’s a screenshot of a photo someone took of their phone on twitter

Why... would that person not just post a screen shot instead of a photo of their whole phone?

 

[Redandvino]

Why... would that person not just post a screen shot instead of a photo of their whole phone?

Fuck if I know

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Not my phone lol. It’s a screenshot of a photo someone took of their phone on twitter

I didn't notice that at first and choked on my drink laughing when I clicked back in after seeing your comments lol.
I'll livestream my ambulance journey for y'all

 

[AnOminous]

We have a thread on a true and honest paranoid schizophrenic woman: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/gail-chord-schuler-gabrielle-chana.521/

She has a Youtube channel and her delusions are based around that she thinks the Jesuits are out to kill her and she writes bizarre books which generally feature Brent Spiner. Her videos are outrageous but at the same time it's kind of sad how her mental illness has affected her life.

I think schizophrenia is one of those illnesses that everyone thinks is easy to fake because of the way it's portrayed on tv and in movies. That's not at all what it's like, looking at Gail's and Terry A Davis's youtube videos you can get some idea though of how it really affects people.

Someone once did a study sending fake schizophrenia patients in to mental institutions. The other patients had no problem telling they were faking, but the psychiatrists were completely oblivious.

Rosenhan experiment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[c6h1206]

I actually hadn't seen much on this woman, but this sounds like a fun thing to unpackage.

Some schizophrenia patients do have persistent hallucinations but they're never near as alarming as a fucking clown. Also, when you're having an episode of any form the reason schizophrenia is classified the way it is, is because theres a level of disconnect between what's real and what's not. For her to perfectly describe her hallucination and mind be lucid everywhere else is a big stinking alarm.

As for the accent, due to medications and so forth that schizophrenic people have to be on. Things such as speech pattern and even writing as well as typing patterns can and will change.

I've never heard of it causing an accent, but things like drawls and slurring can appear.

If you look at her videos she states her parents disowned her because she came out as mentally ill. At least that is how I took it. Sure parents do fucked up things but that seems bizarre. A lot of things don't fit as far as I am concerned.

This article states she had childhood schizophrenia. https://www.collegian.psu.edu/news/campus/article_8d95ff52-d58e-11e8-955c-d7938b62235d.html Yet she claimed she called up her mom and said she was unwell after she entered college. A lot of inconsistencies. She also was grifting saying she can't pay her medical bills and that she was a victim of domestic violence. But zero is explained about the domestic violence angle. In one video she talks about her HS boyfriend and she told him about the clown;. She said it looks exactly like the clown from the original movie IT. She stated he had never seen it so they looked it up and he thought the clown looked funny and laughed and the relationship ended and bc he laughed and she was devastated.

 

[CN 925]

Guys, ugh. My vagina is so yeasty right now.

(This is herfoggymind.)

 

[Cold Waffle]

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Guys, ugh. My vagina is so yeasty right now.

(This is herfoggymind.)

Why ask a trained medical professional when you can ask an internet stranger? The world deserves to know about your vag! Shout it from the rooftops!

 

[AnotherLolAnon]

So what gives? These girls we talk about didn't suddenly wake up one day and decide that they really want a port, a feeding tube, and a wheelchair for no reason. I guarantee the lion's share of them start off with physical symptoms caused by anxiety, depression, aging/growing/developing, disordered eating, or what have you, that show up during their scary tumultuous adolescent years. They see on social media and in "news" sites like The Mighty that other people with their symptoms get these radical interventions, asspats, and don't have to work or be an adult, and that it often takes them years of doctors telling them its in their heads before they're "correctly" diagnosed. When their doctor instead suggests they stop drinking energy drinks, get a good night's sleep, take an SSRI, and try meditating, it triggers this cycle where they want to prove they're as sick as they claim to be. So many of them are totally transparent about this, saying things like "he doesn't think I'm sick enough for a feeding tube? Well I'll just have to keep losing weight until I'm sick enough for him!" as if that is a completely rational sentiment because to them it is: they're suffering, they think they need this treatment, therefore starving themselves for a few weeks to hasten the problem is no big deal. Others of them have real eating disorders that come with manipulative behavior to protect the disorder as a symptom and therefore getting diagnosed with a rare stomach condition that causes them to be unable to eat through no fault of their own is very attractive. But 10 years ago no one was getting these interventions because it wasn't yet plastered all over social media.

When you're a kid everything is fine for most kids, and certainly most kids priveleged enough to grow to be munchies. Your body feels fine and is just a vessel to serve you to have fun.

When you're a teenager things may not be as easy as when you're a kid. Injuries that you used to bounce right up from might take longer to recover from. For some people this is the first indication their body is failable.

Further, despite what our munchies claim: POTS is common in teenage girls. Like ridiculously common. It's not a disease. It's a syndrome. Which means it's not life long. It's a set of symptoms that may be caused by similar events. Have a growth spurt and don't stay hydrated? You're damn near guaranteed a run in with POTS. It's not special.

I don't know how I found Mary Frey on YouTube, but I know I wasn't searching for sick bloggers. She still popped into my recommended. As soon as I watched some Frey Life my recommended was Spoonie City. And there was Jaquie, who patholagized everything. That's not an ingrown nail: that's systemic mrsa and you need IV Vanco. That's not a day of low appetite: that's gastroparesis and you need a surgical feeding tube. On and on and on.

To wrap it all up, teenagers already experience a psychological phenomenon known as personal fable. They're the star of their own show. They're special and unique. That's not poor parenting. That's not due to being a Spoonie or a YouTube star or an Instagram influencer. It's every teenager at baseline as their developmental stage.

 

[suck my pickle]

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Guys, ugh. My vagina is so yeasty right now.

(This is herfoggymind.)

this bitch is Amanda/Ren level TMI and it's downright baffling to me... WHY?!

 

[CN 925]

this bitch is Amanda/Ren level TMI and it's downright baffling to me... WHY?!

It's the autism.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Hello, today we will be celebrating the 29th birthday of my all-time favourite spoonie warrior, Amanda “Skinwalker” Winig. To thank her for the hours of entertainment and the glorious hunting trips she has sent me on, I have created a retrospective of her entire life using sources I have been carefully curating for almost two years. I hope to remind her that even though she nuked her accounts, internet is forever.

Spoiler: Don't mind if I do.

Name: Amanda Louise Winig
DOB: July 30, 1990
Address: 9538 Lynwood St. Clermont, Florida.

(Here’s a nice little vidya tour.)

Occupation: hospital clogger, and sporadic concierge at the Walt Disney World Polynesian Village Resort; former youtuber
Parents: Paul and Donna Winig, both living at the same address.
Siblings: Jessica Janicek of Columbus, Nebraska (plus husband Terrance and daughters Kaitlyn and Charlotte); Joshua Winig also of 9538 Lynwood St.

Amanda was born in Aurora, Colorado, a fact that she casually let slide on Facebook while making the Dark Knight theater shooting about herself and her upcoming birthday. Let this serve as a preview of how entitled and self-absorbed this human being is.


Her father Paul was in the US Air Force so it is reasonable to assume they were based at Buckley AFB in Aurora. She was such a cute little bugger.



In 1992, the family was relocated to Kaneda Air Base in Okinawa, Japan, where they lived until 1997.



Her dad left the force and they moved to Columbus, Nebraska. Here’s a cute little human interest story about the older sister’s experience volunteering in animal shelters in Japan from a small town newspaper that has nothing else to write about. Dad left the Air Force to become an instrument technician for the Archer Daniels Midland company, a food processing conglomerate, in November 1997. Mom became an animal control officer in August, 1999 and eventually rose to Lead Officer by her retirement in 2016. In November 2000, little brother Josh was born. Now a legal adult and graduated from high school, Josh spends his time committing grand theft.



They grow up so fast!

Amanda was raised extremely religious and loves to talk about the big sky daddy until she’s cyanotic. In 2007 she made her first public facebook “note” (remember those?) describing her magical experience as a missionary in Minneapolis.

Second row, second from left. Gotta love that single comment her novel got.

Other than her early life in Japan, Amanda had a totally normal Midwestern upbringing, playing volleyball and tennis, attending church, spending time with her family, and singing. Most of her early postings on the internet can be divided into three categories: 1) Jesus-sperging/Deep Thoughts ™; 2) family togetherness and/or pets; 3) food. Like the rest of her family, Amanda piled on the pounds over her adolescence and by her high school graduation she was ...solid. Not fat yet but definitely on the cusp. Her food posts showed that she cared very little about nutrition and more about “but can I put crushed oreos in it?” She often posted about various coffee chains’ seasonal sugar bombs which she seemed to buy very frequently. Here are some of her word-vomit posts about jesus.


In 2007, a friend of hers was killed in a single-vehicle accident, the first real tragedy in her social media life. Jessica Jean Klug-Brehm died when she lost control of her vehicle on 400th Avenue north of Columbus and rolled into a ditch.


Also this is how I learned that Nebraska has an enormous state-wide grid of streets, holy shit look at this.

Ahem. Sorry. Amanda loved kids and spent a lot of time around them, working at Columbus Middle School’s after school program beginning in October 2006. She worked for a daycare called Cartoon Corner beginning in November 2007 but didn’t last very long, leaving it in January 2008. She took a job at a Christian daycare called Little Messengers in June 2008 teaching kids the wonders of God. She was a student leader for Youth for Christ from August 2008 until May 2009. She left her job at Columbus Middle School at the same time.



Despite being around little disease-vectors for several hours a day, Amanda makes no mention of being sick in her early history aside from seasonal allergies. What an enviable immune system!



She graduated from Columbus High School in May 2008, but deferred her further education for two years, starting at Southeast Community College in 2010, where she became a student ambassador in her first year. She was studying communications and quit her job at Little Messengers in 2010 to work at Finch on the Run Entertainment & Productions in Bennet, Nebraska as an office manager. Around this time she became more active in posting, showing scenes of a happy family life and friends.





I have to laugh at the fact that she subtly stretched this photo to make herself look less chubby but kept both versions uploaded for easy comparison.



She soon started taking all of her photos with Fat Girl Angles, showing a real insecurity for how she looked. The camera angle might as well be on the moon for some of her photos.



She was apparently in an abusive relationship beginning around this time but only ever vagueposted about it later. Most of her posts were happy normal shit.


As part of her college program, she interned for Froggy 98 FM country music radio in 2011. Other than meeting the radio personalities she listened to, she reported very little in the way of happy times during her tenure at this prestigious academy. Most of her posts were more of her food & jesus sperging, just with added complaints and vaguebooking.



In Summer, 2012, she and her family went on vacation of Walt Disney World, and based on her reaction this was the first time she’d ever visited the Vacation Kingdom of the World. This trip changed her life course, but that will come in due time. The family also visited Universal Studios, but Amanda was less impressed by the this latter theme park, feeling that the customer service was not as good and it was not quite the magical experience she had at Disney. She barely mentions going there at all, spending her whole vacation report talking about Disney. Towards the end of the trip, she also visited her grandparents in Stuart, Florida, a beach community just south of Port St. Lucie.


Back home, she started posting much more, but not very much that was interesting.


In September of that year she began pursuing a bachelor’s degree at Nebraska Wesleyan University in Lincoln studying social work and psychology. Her Facebook use grew over this time as she lived near campus and away from her home. Despite a diet of shit food and alcohol, skipping sleep to study, and her abusive relationship which was stressful and caused her to publicly vaguebook constantly, Amanda had no major health issues while at college.





At the end of her first semester, she joined a now-defunct MLM called Uppercase Living that sold vinyl wall decals. Also her mom had to have gallbladder surgery which I mention only because she did.





After this flurry of activity, her posting sharply decreased. Whether she was posting things as friends only and I’m just not privy to them or it was because she moved home to escape the abusive relationship and was avoiding talking to people or deleted a bunch of shit or what, I’ve no idea. It's entirely possible there were dozens of photos with her boyfriend in them that she nuked after they broke up. She did later say her mother and sister drove out to the place she was living to pick her up at 3 am on very short notice when she was ready to leave him, but doesn’t specify when that was. But slowly she came back to us. In Spring she came out of her silence to sperg about Jesus. Then she announced she was going to get healthy and lose weight and the literal next day she’s drinking and eating at a dive bar. Lol. Vagueposting also continued.





You can see she gained quite a bit of weight since her last photos. Even just from her Disney trip a year prior it’s really obvious she’s gotten a lot bigger. Speaking of Disney, she started posting about it a lot more towards the end of the semester along with taking her weight more seriously… for five seconds. Then she went back to midwestern meals and Fat Girl Angles.



At the end of the summer she regret this choice to live large (literally) and announced THIS time she was SERIOUS about losing weight. And then made cookies. Her vagueposting has also become markedly more optimistic and she ramped up her Disney posting as well. Seems like she’s got something planned.





On September 25 she made the big reveal: she applied for and was accepted to the Disney College Program. This is an “internship” where students work grueling hours at menial jobs in the Disney parks for a semester for almost no pay, most of which goes towards rent at company-owned apartments and food at company-owned restaurants, take some disney-run professional development classes, and somehow this is supposed to help them in their careers. She would spend the Winter-Spring 2014 semester working at Walt Disney World, a dream come true for our little warrior. She decided that this was the chance that would change her life. The rest of 2013 was filled with excitement and preparing for the big day. She started a blog to document the magic. She also started her Youtube channel although, sadly, this was nuked in 2018 with no archives. She even dressed up as Minnie Mouse for Halloween in celebration of this personal victory. This decision also fueled her to actually lose some weight in the hopes of buying a new wardrobe for her trip.



Of course, there was lots of food!


The one break from the unrelenting excitement was the death of her friend and former coworker at Little Messengers, Amanda Asche, who also died in an automobile accident, this time caused by a drunk driver. Other than that, she was so excited she barely posted about the end of the semester or Christmas. It was all Disney all the time.




On January 8, 2014 the Winigs set out on a long drive to Florida to drop their dear daughter off at her temporary home. She enjoyed some time at the universal parks and shopping at Downtown Disney while she waited for the big day.





Now I know some of you guys are probably like “KFS, this is the munchies board, not the Boring Adult Disney Fanatics board.” Patience, it is important that we establish that through the first almost-decade of her internet presence, Amanda was almost offensively healthy if a little overweight. She ate out, drank alcohol, rode roller coaster, played sports, and went out with friends late at night then got up early for work. Knowing this makes her evolution into Skinwalker that much more hilarious. So stick with me here. She got a job working at the EPCOT parking lot which involved standing on blacktop in all kinds of weather but mostly the oppressive Florida heat, humidity, and sunshine, to ensure people parked in an orderly and efficient manner. She makes few complaints about this, and when she does it’s same complaints all Florida residents make about our weather like, “it should not be this humid in February” and “oh god it’s only 50 degrees out today, I’m freezing!” Nothing about being sick, dizzy, or passing out. By February she’s hinting that she might stay in Florida permanently.



Some minor vagueposting returns...



But mostly it seems like her life is sunshine, lollypops, and rainbows. She enjoyed going to the parks and to the many parties Disney throws for its DCP members. And because Disney barely pays its workers least of all its interns, she lost more weight on a self-reported diet of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, pop tarts, and wine. She even won a perfect attendance award.



Her only health complaint was the usual seasonal allergies that were kicked up by the EPCOT Flower and Garden Festival, and of that quintessential Disney World experience: having your foot run over by a lardass on a scootypuff.


In March she started complaining of a mysterious allergic reaction she couldn’t quite pinpoint the source of. Eventually she decided it was just her usual allergies but in Florida Mode.


But even that was just a minor glitch in an otherwise perfect DCP experience. She even went on launched, inverted coasters with no problems. And she still had the stomach for tons of alcohol and sugary coffee drinks. [Author’s note: JellyRolls is a Disney-owned bar at the Disney-owned Boardwalk Inn but locals also frequent it because it’s got great entertainment and surprisingly strong drinks. Highly recommended. Do yourself a favor and request the song “Rainbow connection” if you go.]





Even though things were sometimes stressful like when she had 21 consecutive days of work, she stuck it out. A lot of people quit or get “termed” from this program for minor things, so you have to kind of respect her tenacity here.





In May her internship drew to a close and she said many sad goodbyes to her mouse-mates, frequenting bars and farewell parties, which helped her reverse that tragic weight loss she suffered in the beginning.





But Amanda wasn’t ready to leave. She successfully got an extension of her internship!


And her siblings and older niece visited on vacation. In addition to the Disney parks and a giant ice cream, she enjoyed Universal’s harry potter land and sampled Butterbeer, but was still less than thrilled by the Universal experience in comparison to her beloved home.





A few days later, she visited her grandparents with them.





Later that week she announced she was staying in Florida permanently. She wasn’t sure whether she was going to extend her internship again, try to go full time, or take their professional development classes but she knew Disney World was where she was meant to be. In July she applied for another extension of her EPCOT parking position. She “reverse transferred” her college credits to Central Community College in Grand Island, Nebraska and got an Associates degree. Her only health complaint was her ever-present struggle to lose weight when delicious food was all around.





So this little rant might be about Brian Finch, her boss at Finch on the Run, which she seems to have had a romantic relationship with and whose home she seems to have lived in during her semester at college. Finch is about 10-12 years her senior and has a history of bouncing checks and tax evasion and at least one of his employees offed themselves. She left that job right after she accepted the DCP position, months before it actually started. However she seems to have moved home months prior to that, so I really can’t be certain.


Mostly just more disney posting though, and going to see that awful The Fault in Our Stars movie, and seeing herself in the lead character... who is a young woman who dies of cancer. Wow. Foreshadowing much?



One by one her friends left but she stayed. She made another valiant effort at losing weight




She got featured in Eyes & Ears for some magical moments she created for a little autistic child which her local newspaper also reported on.



In November her aunt, one of the people who encouraged her to apply for this internship, died.




But her Christmas was magical. Just as her last possible extension of her DCP was set to end, Disney offered her a full time position as part of the parking crew at Downtown Disney.


‘Okay,” I hear you cry, “when does she start faking illnesses?” Soon, soon. I promised a complete retrospective and it is important that we set up her life prior so that we may fully grieve for the healthy young woman she destroyed and/or mock what she's become. By now she had sharply declined in her Facebook use again and was way more active on Instagram. Unfortunately for her fan club (of which I am obviously the president) she locked down her instagram in 2018 and does not accept randos. From memory, most of her posts were more of the same. Lots of food, scenery, Disney photos, goofing off with roommates. Importantly, anons from LCF reported while it was still active that there was no mention of being sick at all until a specific trigger, which is also how I remember it. So at least we have something resembling verification that she was not kvetching about her health yet. However, this complicates our retrospective because anons only capped some of her posts and none of her vlogs are archives. I’ll recreate these years as best as I can.

Highlights of 2015 year included being chosen for the Candlelight Cast Choir which performs nightly during the holidays, and being selected for a new position as concierge at the Polynesian Village Resort. She moved to the Camden Town Square Apartments in formerly Disney-owned planned community Celebration now that she no longer qualified for the DCP housing. A two-bedroom here is a cool $1600 but she lived with several roommates. She also visited the Bahamas on the Disney Fantasia cruise ship and ran a 5k while she was there. She's healthy, happy, and loving life.




By now she was really not posting much at all on Facebook. All I can find of her life in 2016 is she was still working at the Polynesian, and she visited Disneyland, she seems to have gone back to Nebraska to meet her new niece around February, and her family came to visit. Still looks healthy as all hell and was up for a promotion to Guest Relations which failed to materialize. On or near November 10, her parents and brother moved to Clermont where her mother took up a job as Walt Disney World Security and her father took a job with Polk County’s Board of Common Commissioners. Her brother studied at South Lake High School in nearby Groveland.

This concludes the first segment of my retrospective. I planned to do this all in one go but now that I'm looking at it I think Kiwi's servers might explode if I try to add any more photos. Join me in a few hours when I finally get my shit together for 2017-19, The Munchening of Amanda Winig.

Edit: formatting

 

[Burn Book]

Holy shit, that memorial post about her friend is wild. It's mostly just about how amazing, inspirational and talented poor dead Jessica supposedly thought our heroine was. You need to be a special kind of self-absorbed to post something like this.

 

[flappie]

In Autie's latest facebook live she has a really interesting BPD look in her eyes before she realizes the camera works and she "shifts" into "autism" mode.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Holy shit, that memorial post about her friend is wild. It's mostly just about how amazing, inspirational and talented poor dead Jessica supposedly thought our heroine was. You need to be a special kind of self-absorbed to post something like this.

Much like Jan Jan's eulogy for jaquie. Okay @Kate Farms Shill how long are you gonna tease us for? I'm hooked

 

[Redandvino]

1. Holy wow thank you KFS you truly are braver than the us marines

2. Moe had sepsis (I think. She said that’s what it was but it could’ve been just a line infection, no way to tell) a couple weeks ago and got her port pulled. She had a midline for IV abx and couldn’t stop complaining abt it, but she deleted the tweets before I could grab them ugh. Anyways. Here she is now vague-ing to her 5000 followers about how her heartache is so bad she wishes she had sepsis again. No joke.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

I return with part two of Amanda Winig's 29th Birthday Spectacular!

When we last saw Amanda she was happy and loving her new life working at Disney World. She had no health problems other than seasonal allergies, a few minor sports injuries, and a struggle with her weight. She lived in a nice apartment with roommates who liked her and was always striving to climb up that Disney ladder. It looked like it was all going to be Happily Ever After for this princess.

But if she was just a normal Disney-Fag I wouldn't be interested in her. Luckily, in 2017, she fell directly down the rabbit hole faster than any other munchie I have ever studied. It's incredible, and I promise it was worth the wait.

Spoiler: Amanda Winig 2: Munchausen Boogaloo

Tragedy struck Amanda's life in early January 2017 when her beloved grandfather passed away. Her family moving to Florida and her failed attempt to be promoted in late 2016 and her grandfather’s passing seem to be the trigger points for Amanda’s descent, even though just days after his death she was already going out to see musicals with her roomies. Based on the profound increase in eye wrinkles in the last two photos compared to ones from 2016 I'd say she's genuinely upset and has been crying quite a lot.



Look I’m not telling anyone how to live their lives but ripped jeans at a funeral seems a little… casual. However it’s pretty obvious she’s lost weight again so perhaps they were all that fit her.


In early February she had her first health crisis, an allergic reaction after a meal that her roommate had to save her from. She says she has only one food allergy and there’s no way it cross-contaminated her food (trust her…) so she’s not sure why she reacted and is now afraid it will happen again. She also says she’s seeing a cardiologist and was on the drug midodrine, used for low blood pressure, which she also reacted badly to. She has a meltdown over the price of Epi-Pens and how her insurance won't cover them. Despite this emergency, she went on a trip to New Jersey a few days later.


On the 16th, her mom posted a GoFundMe. While I can't see the whole text of it it (even scrolling back on her facebook, all I could bring up was the dead link) it looks like she's basically saying "give money because we don't know what's wrong with her!" Mom says that this has been going on for a long time. Amanda will waffle over the years on whether her problems started in January 2017 or in October 2016 or at birth. At first I'd be willing to believe her mom was just snowed but later evidence shows that mom is totally complicit in this.


On February 21, she announced that she’s purchased a golden retriever from Eagle Ridge Golden Retrievers, the same breeder Jaquie got her dog Harlow from. She also shared that she suffers from POTS. She is exploring an autoimmune disease that showed up in bloodwork (I’m guessing a positive ANA which can mean a serious disorder or it can mean nothing). She claimed fatigue, joint pain, chest pain, and loss of her fine motor skills. She revealed plans to self-train Sadie in mobility, retrieval, syncope recovery, and hoped she would learn to alert to her POTS episodes. (Despite that it sounds like she’s working with a service dog program, she’s not. Sadie got basic obedience from the breeder and then went home with Amanda to start her task training.) Now, it may seem like this is a quick jump from “okay” to “totally FUBAR” and you are correct. She later told a journalist that she was hospitalized and vomiting blood prior to her diagnosis, but her instagram made no mention of this. She posted about her trip to NJ and being single on Valentine’s day and then a week later that she was getting a service dog.



Like all munchies, she started an instagram for Sadie where she wrote as if she were the dog, adopting Jaquie's "my girl" instead of the more common but still stupid "my mom."


By March 30, she added EDS, MCAS, GP, and chronic migraines to her list of health problems and claimed to be fainting and bruising her face.


Ten days later she’s tagging chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, and polycystic ovary syndrome.


Two weeks later, she’s added anaphylaxis and idiopathic hypersomnia, suggesting she tried to get dx’d narcolepsy but fucked up her complaints; in narcolepsy naps feel refreshing but in IH napping makes them more tired, and munchies always fuck this up.


In May she brought the dog to meet the mouse. That spring, Jaquie had started posting videos of herself and Harlow in Disney World that got her a lot of attention, and Julian, Jaquie’s friend and fellow golden retriever-wielding munchie, went viral after a photo of his dog meeting Mickey was picked up by mainstream media, so Amanda was clearly trying to catch some of that success. Around this time she changed her insta handle to spoonielife_amanda, although I’ve not been able to figure out what it was before. Here we also see that she has the same pink gear Jaquie bought for Harlow - same brands, same Disney patches.


She went home to Nebraska in July and did a PSA on service dogs in the florist shop owned by her third grade teacher. By now she was claiming Sadie alerted to her POTS and MCAS idiopathic anaphylaxis episodes. Teacher asks her what happens when someone calls her out for faking or seeking attention and mentions a recent hospitalization. Amanda doesn’t answer the question and they change the subject to how cute the dog is. (I have this video backed up if she gets it taken down, of course.)



In August she was down to a good healthy weight and both she and Sadie had Chronically Jaquie “keep moving forward” shirts. Around this time she moved to Grand Island, Florida, a tiny town smack dab between Orlando and Ocala, where she lived with a girl who had her own "service dog in training," also a golden retriever and I believe also from Eagle Ridge. The roommate, Lisa, who had “several chronic illnesses” including asthma (n/s what else she claimed to have), referred to Amanda as “the Jaquie to my Janiece” on instagram. Amanda went on medical leave sometime around here but not sure exactly when, definitely by September. She and her roommate visited Disney Hollywood Studios in the August heat with their matching dogs. They crouched down in a position that someone with Amanda’s claimed conditions would probably not put themselves in under the best conditions but definitely not in Florida in August when it is so hot the dogs need shoes on. Amanda's dog has what looks like some kind of calming vest on, hopefully being used as an evaporative cooling garm. I've not been able to track what brand this is but I know Jaquie used one on Harlow in her early Disney training adventures, too. Both women have Ruffwear Slackline leashes which are about $40 and Jaquie was a big fan of and also have the same treat totes Jaquie used when training Harlow, $20.


By this time she had made a habit of running to the ER all the time for “anaphylaxis” and dehydration. She shows off that she purchased the same pink pulse ox Jaquie used and that she, too, could rub her skin until it turned reddish. I don't have date stamps for these (they were part of a slideshow video she made for Facebook in December) so I'm just going to lump them all together.


I especially love this fake cyanosis. Note that the coloration of her fingertips is fine and her whole face is discolored and plastic looking. It looks like she used some app with a filter.


Good to know her super serious EDS and POTS do not prevent her from picking up a large puppy, presumably crouching down to grab it from the floor and then standing back up.


Here are she is training at Disney and home depot (?) as well as proof that she finally starved her way into that new wardrobe she wanted... or EDS awareness shirts to draw more attention to herself and complement her hospital bracelets.


More "anaphylaxis"



Some time before September she got a port for saline and promptly squicked out her friends by showing a port access in an instagram video. And look how happy she is to have it!


Here we have an ana-chan angle and the same exact vogmask jaquie wore in her early vlogs. But she didn’t wear it later that day at EPCOT because why would she?


She even paused to share a personal moment with Sky Daddy. He’s such a character!


Hurricane Irma struck in early September, and the girls livestreamed themselves in a closet. It was very hot in the closet but Amanda wouldn't take off her hoodie and instead medicalized her predictably flushed face. Mentioned that both she and her roommate had sleeping pills but didn’t take them so they could monitor the storm instead. Her mother was working outside at Disney as the ride-out crew. Mentioned that the sound in the backround was the dishwasher running because they "ate food that day like normal people," but then immediately corrected that she did not eat food like a normal person. (I also have this video archived and will upload it soon)


After the storm, she reports that they suffered minimal damage and no loss of power. She’s now tagging immunodeficiency, malnutrition, and malabsorption in her posts.


Then their power did go out and Amanda lost her shit complaining about her heat intolerance and how it was more important that her power came back on than anyone else’s … despite going to Disney in August. People died in this storm, Amanda. Mommy and daddy saved you from mild discomfort.


Of course, the storm passed eventually and things went back to normal. Per her now-deleted vlogs, she moved in with her parents after this event because of an “unhealthy living situation” with Lisa. Who would have thought that IRL munchie olympics wouldn’t work out?! Lisa was never mentioned again and they didn't follow each other on Insta either. She continued to rapidly drop weight. She started claiming neurocardiogenic syncope. By October 2 she was in talks with her doctor about a feeding tube. Despite not even trialing an NG/NJ, within a week she had gotten a PEG-J tube and was running a GoFundMe to pay for her nutrition which insurance wouldn’t cover. What miracle nectar did she need that was so rare and precious that insurance wouldn’t cover it? Why, Kate Farms, of course! Shout out to Jaquie for letting her know about this life saving formula. She eventually got her parents to pay for it when insurance cruelly wouldn't. She was claiming to have lost 70 lbs at this point. Or was it 50? But despite all these horrible health problems, she also went to see Newsies just days after her surgery. And she mentions that she still has to buy regular groceries and eat food, obviously.



And she needs the exact same same feeding tube pump in the same vibedration bag as jaquie. Spoonie warrior fist pump activated.


And she also needs to take her dog to Disney for "training" all the time. Shows off that she’s really good at crouching down into a position no one with severe joint pain, fainting episodes from pots, and frequent dislocations would ever attempt.



And that she can pick up a ~50 pound golden retriever.


Amanda came to the attention of Lolcow.farm after she won an instagram contest by munchie favourite Brave Souls Blankets. Aubrey and Jaquie both shilled for this brand (Jaquie actually entered the same contest Amanda won) and I’m fairly certain Dani has one too but may have bought hers. Initial reactions by anons were somewhere between “well that’s unsettling” and “holy shit what is wrong with Florida?” (answer: relentless and oppressive heat and humidity, old people, Cubans, meth, alligators, giant flying roaches, tourists, hurricanes, sink holes, I-4, too many golf courses, toxic algae overgrowth, and a constant influx of new residents. In answer to why so many munchies proliferate here, my guess is a mix of disney, proximity to bottom-tier caribbean medical schools, and the fact that nearly everything is already disability-friendly and munchie toys are easy to come by because of the large population of old people.) They were quick to note that she was even tagging Jaquie, making no attempts to hide her brazen SWF behaviour. I cannot be held responsible for the quality of the instagram screengrabs that as I was lurking but not archiving then and can only preserve what other people posted.


At this point Amanda had moved on past her PEG-J win and was instead celebrating that her doctor cleared her for a custom wheelchair, IVIG (for her #immunodeficiency) and that thanks to her Kate Farms her body was fighting back from malnutrition. Most importantly, she was cleared to return to work at the Polynesian after strong-arming Disney into allowing her to work with her puppy. Sadie was officially a cast member now!


She celebrated with a body check.


On November 11, 2017 Amanda announced she had gotten a new adjustable bed. This, in and of itself, would not be noteworthy – a lot of people get them for a lot of reasons. The timing is where it gets creepy. Jaquie began talking about buying one on October 15, and announced that she finally got it in her November 10 blog, which was uploaded on the 11th. And someone who was either stupid or fucking savage wrote “congratulations on your new bed, Jaquie” on her post, which she took as an enormous compliment of course.


By this point she had made herself a frequent flier at Florida Hospital Celebration’s ER by fucking with her GJ dangler until it was dislodged or kinked multiple times, and they were no longer buying what she was selling. This led her to post hilarious frowny thumbs down photos from ER beds.



The way she speaks to and about doctors really shines in this Facebook post from this era.



In December she traveled home to Nebraska and was interviewed by local news. (archive) The article notes that her health problems started in January even though Amanda was by then claiming to have developed severe GP in October, 2016. She was clocked at 115 lbs with a high weight of 190 and was eating about 500 calories a day (receiving 1500 from her formula). Or so she claimed.


Still fine to travel and go to disney, obvs.


On the 15th she posted about experiencing DISCRIMINATION!!! from her employer, which was posted on fightlikeawarrior.org. By discrimination she means they didn't want her to be the center of attention and made her sit off to the side.



She had her dangler feeding tube switched out for a mic-key button after repeatedly kinking breaking it on purpose and was talking about IV benadryl


Her purging definitely real gastroparesis fucked up her teeth real fast and she had to have a broken one pulled on the 21st. She also mentions being on IV zofran and that she burns through local anesthetics too quickly due to her Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome and therefore it hurrrrrt.


On the 27th she went to the ER complaining that her tube was kinked and she was nauseous and vomiting. She was shocked and angered that they told her to take the medication she’s already prescribed and go home. The awful doctor wouldn’t even run blood tests even though her purging had dropped her potassium to critically low levels. She wasn’t tolerating her feeds at all and had terrible nerve pain as well. The next day she posted a video of her showing off that she now shopped in the children’s department and was still complaining about Florida Hospital Celebration sending her home despite her super severe malnutrition and her inability to make poopies. The doctor called her a “chronic patient” and complained about her frequent ER trips. It was so horrible even the nurse cried. Don’t worry, Aubrey was there to talk her through the doctor shopping process.


Taking Aubrey’s advice, she went to the Tampa Bay area, an hour from her home in Clermont, to visit Morton Plant hospital where her doctors (also presumably Jaquie’s doctors) practiced. She was seen by their ER for "anaphylaxis" aka rubbing her face until it turned red... because, you know, when you're in a scary allergic crisis you drive an hour away from your home to see doctors who might be nicer. By the 29th she was hospitalized, taking fake sleep selfies, and preparing to start TPN, but had to wait for a specially made variety that doesn’t have soy, because of her anaphylaxis.


As 2017 drew to a close, a still-hospitalized Amanda reflected on her past year of successfully faking illnesses to get a bunch of toys and be coddled like the little baby girl she still was at 27 years old. #zofranparty!


Her stay at this hospital was truly one of the highlights of her social media munchie career. At first she was claiming double vision, headaches, nausea, and limbs so weak they couldn’t hold her weight. Then she had chest pains and possibly had a heart attack!! Better take a selfie #heartbroken #brokenheart. The next day she announced anaphylaxis from a banana and tonsillectomy surgery #vitamindeficiency #mineraldeficiency. She also had a lumbar puncture followed by a blood patch surgery. She admits she was only eating less than 300 calories per day. (The profile pic left in the last photo is the original poster back in 2018.)


She used the prolonged stay to beg strangers to visit and send her presents. She made the big time when the Munchie Queen herself responded to this cry for company – she was even featured in a vlog! Snuggled under her Brave Souls blanket, she got to play Trouble and get some Harlow kisses which is great for someone who is immunocompromised, especially when you remember Harlow was eating a raw diet and undoubtedly shedding E. coli and Salmonella.

Now while she was hospitalized, she was complaining of “pins and needles” nerve pain, weakness, and being unable to walk at all. With her earlier positive ANA (which, remember, might mean nothing at all) and these new symptoms, she was given a diagnosis of Guillain-Barre Syndrome, an autoimmune demyelinating polyneuropathy. This was like hitting the munchie lottery because it was a rare n’ shiny that no one else in that coterie had managed to get diagnosed with yet. Furthermore, it came with its own toys and scary procedures like plasmapheresis, and incidentally made her port more legitimate: unlike the rest of those plebs who only used theirs for benadryl, zofran, and saline, Amanda’s was necessary because she needed access for the plasmapheresis to cycle blood to remove the autoantibodies. Whether Amanda actually has GBS or whether she simply had random autoantibodies like a lot of people and that plus her reported symptoms convinced one of her many doctors to hand her this coveted diagnosis will be left to speculation. I will say that factitious GBS is not unheard of. Now the rumor was that Amanda told Jaquie and Jaquie started asking too many questions. Amanda realized Jaquie was trying to steal her rare n' shiny, and suddenly she hated being compared to Jaquie. It is obvious after this meeting that Amanda was so over Jaquie. The fact that she never announced her GBS until much later suggests either it was real and she was actually scared for once, or that Jaquie threatened her rising munchie stardom and she didn't want anyone else to have this rare and special disease until she was done getting all the prizes it offered first. I always lean towards the latter. (Jaq went for the Roux-en-Y that ultimately killed her instead. Should have let her have GBS, Amanda. This is all your fault. )

After two weeks of her hospital vacation, she was discharged with a “useless” G tube after doctors at Morton Plant refused to give her a new GJ button. This made her boomerang back to Florida Hospital to have her GJ replaced. The doctors of Florida Hospital were now wonderful and good and could do no wrong because they scheduled her for the procedure she wanted right away, while those at Morton Plant hospital were awful and cruel to send her home to starve to death.


She let out some sass


This is my favorite moment in Skinwalker history. This curled-up-on-the-floor-from-pain fake-sleeping obvious selfie that is just to show off how good she is at starving herself. I cannot express how much I fucking love this photograph like I want to tattoo it on my body. January 16.

On the 19th she posted this shameless before-and-after anorexia photo, now claiming her high weight was 200 lbs and the second photo was at 120 but now she’s down to 105. Shout out to Kate Farms!


But she was also healthy enough to go to Disney World to show off how her service dog is really just a pet and she can still crouch down next to her just fine. There were also photos of her at other Disney parks and the beach.


At the end of the month, she announced that she was finally medically cleared to return to work with her dog and a custom lightweight wheelchair she would be getting soon. To celebrate, she bought this custom wrap for Sadie’s pull-strap that fits the Hawaiian theme of the resort (in case you can't make it out it says "Aloha! Service Dog. Do not pet. Mahalo!")



In February she made a feeding tube awareness video where she talked about how Kate Farms is the life-saving food of the gods but alas, it has been lost to the ages. From anons’ posts we can glean that she was eating only 300-500 calories and had “failed” TPN (read: hospital discharged her with the g-tube and told her to fuck off) but thanks to her Kate Farms nutrition she was fighting back! Since I can’t resurrect her youtube, have some insta posts instead.


She also vomited some more about Kate Farms and her struggle to survive.


She started a sahara but closed it quickly as people kept calling her out for being a terrifying skinwalker and anorexic. She is now approaching full chimp out mode.


On the 15th of February she got a new shiny prize, a custom wheelchair with smartdrive, the exact same one Jaquie got with slightly different colors. As you can see in the second image, she also has a standard Drive chair we had never seen her in before.


Now at this time the pressure was truly on. Julian had spilled the beans on Jaquie stealing diagnoses (and was quickly outed as a munchie herself). Callouts were coming left and right. If Skinwalker wanted to save herself, she needed to disassociate herself with Jaquie and shed her SWF behavior. On February 20 she showed herself returning to work.


In late February, 2018 the Munchausen by Internet threads were closed and banned at LCF, probably in part due to munchies themselves brigading the anonymous Town Hall votes, but mostly because of moderation, namefagging (BrochureAnon, EmpathAnon), and blogging issues. Thus IllnessFakers was born. A few posts were made about her antics there, including training Sadie to get a water bottle out of the fridge like Jaquie did. One of the final posts about her was a complete chimpout about how she was nothing, NOTHING like Jaquie, and references her GBS (kind of) and the fact that she has a job while Jaquie does not, but also implies that she’s always been sick.


Within a few weeks of this new sub being created, Skinwalker herself entered the sub under the name PoppySeedRunner and wrote a tearful post about seeing the error of her ways and that she was just trying to get help for the health problems that had plagued her for her whole life, but sees now that she got sucked into the toxic social media realm and was being OTT. She promised she was seeing a therapist, getting out of the sickstagram realm, and seeking more conservative treatments for her really real illnesses. Her reddit history seems to have since been wiped clean (after I mentioned her on here a few weeks ago, the first time she’d been brought up in gossip boards for over a year. How odd!) Thankfully for us internet is forever and i’m not new here.

(Senpai noticed me! My first profile pic was her smiling with a carton of Kate Farms and her shirt pulled up to show her tubes and to my knowledge I was the only one talking about her, too!)

Amanda closed Sadie's account, locked down her own account, changed her name to amanda.and.sadiemae, unfollowed all the munchie squad, and we know very little about her activity between February 2018 and February 2019. Her last public instagram post, for which I have no receipt, was a complaint that shortly after returning to her job at Disney’s Polynesian Village Resort, she was possibly going to have to go out on leave due to what she claimed was a very small accommodation issue. I believe this was concerning her fake service dog and I will explain why but I have to give a little anecdotal information. I am a big fan of Disney’s Polynesian Village and as a local I often go there just to eat at its many fine restaurants and soak up the atmosphere (try the Tonga Toast!) There is at least one concierge at the Kamehameha Club that is in a wheelchair, and another young woman who works with a service dog and possibly in a wheelchair (I honestly cannot remember and I haven’t seen her in a while.) Elsewhere on property I've seen CMs in power chairs, even one guy who has no limbs. So the problem is not that the resort habitually violates the ADA or doesn't want to accommodate the disabled, but something specific about Amanda’s case. Since the whole resort is very wheelchair-friendly and I've seen the wheelchair-bound concierge escorting guests just fine, I don't see any reason that would be the problem. Therefore, it's gotta be her specific dog. Right?

Moving on. What we know about Amanda’s activities after the social media armageddon can be gleaned from a few posts she did not lock down, a random leak or two that might have been from her, and a little media attention she got. In early April 2018 it was announced that Amanda got her port removed and got a gastric pacemaker. Her weight was no longer dropping precipitously. She was working full time. A post a few weeks later (now deleted and no receipt, unfortunately) announced the GBS diagnosis and how Jaquie tried to steal it from her, causing her to turn her back on the munchie queen and not mention this diagnosis anywhere else. Take it for what it’s worth as I have no proof. After these few remarks, MBIr banned her as a topic.

So now her social media is on lockdown and she’s banned as a topic on IF. Now what? Well, fortunately, she can never shut up about her plight and it’s just a matter of patiently waiting for her to slip up or to seek more attention. In August she was seen in the Daytona Beach News-Journal at a New Horizons Service Dog event to meet her new service dog Hickory (though apparently they weren’t formally matched until October). You can see she’s really skeletal, her hair is falling out, she’s pale, and she just looks like utter shit, but also that she has a port again (or still.) New Horizons is the same program Julian got Atlas through and they source some of their dogs from Eagle Ridge. Atlas and Harlow share a parent. [I do not have a single clue where the first photo in this series comes from since it's not the article above. It was just in my hoard. B/w one is a facebook pic she shared the same time the article came out]


Here they are at Christmas time, crouching down as always

Amanda with her sister from December.

In February she and her sister posted photos of her having just completed some of the RunDisney Races on her handcycle. I love how her eating disorder makes her head look so distorted. Her friend here is also a spoonie with the munchie combo platter who sometimes needs a wheelchair unless she feels like running a race on her totally functional legs.


Silly skelly, You're supposed to eat food!


She also posted on Facebook about missing others because, as her doctors told her, she was too weak and she would die. She was on plasmapheresis, split her head open in a fall, and she had to have an InterJugular line. She claimed to be suffering from her “autoimmune disease” but also GBS, suggesting she claims two different autoimmune diseases, an unnamed kidney disease, and the ever-present malnutrition. She was also getting people at a church back home in Nebraska to pray for her.



In April of this year she completed her first handcycle half marathon at Disney. Wow, amazing that even though she’s fucking skeletal and dying she can do vigorous exercise like training for a 13.1 mile race! Almost like... she doesn't want to gain any weight from TPN?


She's also registered/registering for more races


She also posted a video for Hickory's birthday showing even more photos of how terrifyingly thin she is. Also why is she always fucking crouching next to her dog?! I could understand if she was sitting on something but crouching is a lot of work for legs that she claims can barely hold up her weight.


And here's a may-may she made about how the dog calls its anorexic owner out for eating twinkies. hahah, isn't that hilarious!?


Amanda also posted a fundraiser for the service dog program she got Hickory from, in which she caught us up on the past seven months of her life. Between October and April she failed a number of treatments that had worked in the past, lost more weight, got put on TPN again, had sepsis from a central line infection and an infection at her pacer, but it’s okay because in October she got Hickory. Sadie who?


In mid-May she made this long dramatic post about her life, mentioning that she was in a three-year domestic violence situation (giving more credence to the idea that it was the Finch on the Run guy). Now she was claiming to have lost 150 lbs to get down to 90lbs, making her top weight 240. She retcons her two week vacation at the hospital as two weeks in ICU for anaphylaxis, talks about her pacer being removed for sepsis, an abscessed surgical site, a second port placement, and her desire to continue exercise purging her TPN through races. She also says she had to retire Sadie.





But that part about Sadie is not true, is it Amanda? Because on Mother’s Day she accidentally toggled her locked down instagram account to crosspost to her long-disused Twitter account allowing me to have a rare glimpse into her current life. She and her mother went to the Magic Kingdom where they indulged in an expensive dessert, champagne, and fireworks viewing package ($70 per person!) You will notice that not only does Amanda have a champagne flute and a dessert plate in front of her, clear indications that she is capable of both eating and drinking despite claiming to be totally TPN dependent, but both Hickory and Sadie are present. Well, either the retired dog is still being taken out in public just for the fun of things, or Mom’s claiming to be disabled now and using Sadie as a service dog.



Also in mid-May she started up the current saga in her life, a public war with the Dunkin’ Donuts on Florida Rt. 50 in Clermont. You would think that someone with such severe GP that she needed to be on TPN couldn’t drink a blueberry crisp latte but you know, adjustable diagnoses will be adjustable diagnoses! Her complaint, though, was someone’s lap dog was allowed in the store and lunged at Hickory and then the staff was rude when she complained. Can't you just feel the self-righteous indignation in her text?


When dunkin’ didn’t respond by showering her with praise and begging forgiveness and giving her unlimited free blueberry crisp lattes for life, she got mommy involved. These text messages are fucking hilarious. The tl;dr is that the Winigs think this location that they continue to visit because of course they do, deliberately tried to poison Amanda by using the wrong kind of mílk and not adding sugar. Here, mom confirms that Sadie has been pulled out of retirement to be her service dog.





Further corroborated on Mom’s own facebook, where she posts about leaving her job as Disney Security to become a guest services representative at their call center after an injury.





So, did the dog do something that made Amanda retire her, or did Amanda just want the prestige a program service dog brings? We can’t really know but from what I can tell she and Julian are now pretty tight and Julian may have influenced her to get rid of her owner-trained service dog and get a professionally trained one, then mom also wanted the attention a service dog brings. Who knows? Here’s Amanda exploiting her expensive highly trained totally necessary service dog to do parlor tricks and shill for Bahama Buck’s in June.


And here she is, also apparently in June, wearing a fucking jean jacket in Florida. Do you know what the weather here it is in June? 95º daily, 75% humidity, and every day it rains just long enough that when the sun comes back out and heats the place up again it makes it feel like you're trying to breathe through a warm dish sponge.



This brings us up to just a few days ago, where Amanda posted on her sister’s facebook that she had gotten a blood transfusion in May, shortly before the flurry of activity but after her Disney races. Fascinating!

I know that by posting this I am shooting myself in the foot and will probably never again get to experience Amanda Winig’s breathless indignation and masturbatory prose because she reads, possibly even posts, here and will likely stop posting anything publicly now. As previously stated she doesn’t ever accept randos and because her friends list is private I can’t even see if there’s someone I can talk into leaking me information. Unless someone comes forward to talk to me (I’m all ears and I will always protect the identity my beloved leaks!) the only updates I will get are the slip ups and the periodic media appearances she makes. But it was worth it. I had to sacrifice my dairy supply so that we could all come together to make Amanda’s birthday truly special.

Happy birthday to a creepy anorexic skinwalker from a creepy internet stalker! Try not to starve to death!

edit: fixing the 700 photos I fucked up bear with me.

 

[Loneliness&Cheeseburgers]

Bless. That was like a novel. I wondered why her face hadn't shrunk, and you mentioned purging. I wondered where poor Sadie went, and then there she was. All the plot points tied up nicely. A masterpiece. Also, I know it's standard with anachans but holy shit she aged herself. She looks like a 40 year old Walmart cashier who's had a terrible life.

 

[iluvmylife]

Pulizter worthy.

Edit: I can't spell.

 

[Yutyrannus]

It's absolutely insidious she was working that dog that hard so young. It looks like she started PA at like, a few months. The dog looks 5 or 6 months MAX at the first Disney trip and it was carrying weight in packs. Disgusting.

Let puppies be puppies. There's a reason most dogs don't finish until 2.

Oh, also? The puppy looks 8 weeks old when she brought it home. There's no way it had any actual obedience training. Early socialization and puppy culture sure, but NOT training.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

It's absolutely insidious she was working that dog that hard so young. It looks like she started PA at like, a few months. The dog looks 5 or 6 months MAX at the first Disney trip and it was carrying weight in packs. Disgusting.

Let puppies be puppies. There's a reason most dogs don't finish until 2.

Oh, also? The puppy looks 8 weeks old when she brought it home. There's no way it had any actual obedience training. Early socialization and puppy culture sure, but NOT training.

This is why I think she had a behavior issue with Sadie that caused her to 'retire' her / pass her off like a hot potato. I think between the last vlogs she made when Sadie was still only about a year old and when she got Hickory, that dog got absolutely neurotic. I also wonder if the reason mom now takes her is that she has severe separation anxiety from never being taught that it's okay to just be alone and rest.

If I find out her fatass mom is using that dog for heavy mobility I will personally drive to Clermont and liberate both of them.