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Is Alec Peters the idiot whose so butthurt that Vic got to continue his Star Trek fan show while his got shut down and sued
by CBS? And decided to join into the smear campign?


 
Is Alec Peters the idiot whose so butthurt that Vic got to continue his Star Trek fan show while his got shut down and sued
by CBS? And decided to join into the smear campign?
yes... and its a shame, Axanar looked soooo good...
 
I'm guessing you're not super familiar with fujoshi communities, or possibly with the fujoshi side of cosplay? One of the earliest accusations I found about Vic attacking women came from AMV.org where a user told a story very like Jennifer's affidavit and said 'this happened to our AMV coordinator'. (Jennifer was AMV coordinator).

Happen to have a year for that accusation? Over in ManJaw's thread, we nailed down 2007 as her last year as Tekko's Head of AMV, then a male user named Vlad took over in 2008. And unless she's changed her story (yet again), IIRC ManJaw said he grabbed her butt while she was working in Guest Relations.
 
I just saw the trailer..Those visuals, damn looked really good
And he go Tony Todd? And the dude who play Martok?
Yeah, he had the pontential for sure, too bad he wanted to monetize it.

Thanks to Peters, CBS dropped an anvil in the form of rather draconian guide lines for future fan films.
Needless to say, Trekkies are pissed at him for that.
 
Thanks to Peters, CBS dropped an anvil in the form of rather draconian guide lines for future fan films.
Needless to say, Trekkies are pissed at him for that.
Wow, so Big Daddy CBS came with the belt, huh? Wonder if that’ll be a preview of what’ll happen if Toei is confirmed to be involved at some point.
 
Rare show for us weeb wars news!

Just what we need SJW westerners committing suicide once they find out working in Japanese Animation studios is way harder than being lazy by shipping storyboards to North Korea and Canada for free real estate animations.

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Thanks to Peters, CBS dropped an anvil in the form of rather draconian guide lines for future fan films.
Needless to say, Trekkies are pissed at him for that.

It's funnier as well as about a half dozen Trek Fan films got nuked at the same time as Araxanar thanks to Peters exceptionalism.

Guess who simply emerged through the rubble with some smudge make up and a lightly ripped golden-yellow shirt?

Yuuuuuuup. Star Trek Continues did. It was one of the few fan productions that happened to have been already set up as a non-profit by Vic and the others. It'd already met the new guidelines set out by CBS ages before it was ever to become an issue.


That's why Peters is so salty. He tried to ride the line too hard and CBS basically told him to match some "inferior" product in their charitable nature.

Hence the pointless, stupid fucking rants. Stuff like not being able to use STC's sets (Ones they had built themselves) and other impotent whining.

What's funny is Vic transferred the sets only in 2018 (Post production wrapping in late 2017) to the guys over at Starship Republic who are also set up as a charitable gig, meaning all their stuff hasn't been nuked either.
 
WELL JUST DON'T STAND THERE. GIVE IT TO US.

Okay, as I said, this is circumstantial, but I wanted to dig into that one person on AMV.org who had that eerily similar story to Jennifer's. Here is the statement in question:

This isn't just based on rumors either :/ Our AMV Contest Coordinator had to deal with him one year for the con and he was an uptight asshole the entire time. Not to mention the con heads at another convention (not going to drop the name here) had to deal with his BS too. Parents complaining about him taking young girls into his room and him refusing to do anything he had signed on to do unless he had fricken' rose petals in his toilet. He's a temperamental man-child.
Plus a friend of mine was once in line with someone she knew waiting for autographs. My friend could give a shit less about English dubs but her buddy was into that stuff so she stuck by her. Vic overheard her talking to her friend about why she didn't care for dubs (not ranting and raving, just calmly giving her opinion) and Vic had her removed from the line because "she didn't need to be there".

The person saying it is called 'radical_yue', and lucky for me she never bothered to change her name anywhere. It stands out here because almost all responses to the OP complaining about people complaining about Vic are either 'subs > dubs', '[citation needed]' or 'I've staffed for Vic and he hasn't given me problems', but then Radical_Yue jumps in with something extremely specific and different from everyone else.

Now, she's flown under the radar because she doesn't talk much about anime - although she still hosts Nan Desu Kon AMV contests and makes her own AMVs, her twitter feed is mostly full of her being depressed, getting angry for trans people and color blind people (she is neither) and playing Overwatch. However, when asked about Vic, she has some interesting things to say:

This was in response to Hanleia's original tweet making the rounds. She talks about how she's heard rumors since forever, and how he's a "high maintenance child sexual predator at basically every con he's gone to" but magically stays in the industry and keeps getting invited to cons because moms like Edward and Tamaki. That's not really that noteworthy or interesting, until you see her follow up tweet in response to one of her AMV girls getting mad at ISWV here and here is where she gets more specific about where she heard that from.

This is relevant because she says "My first con in 08 he came up in convo and one of the staffers that overheard said that he was a prick and a pedophile so to stay the hell away from him."

Now, what was her first convention? ACEN 2008

Younique (that's her name: Younique Bales) is a strictly AMV obsessed fan. She doesn't cosplay, and she barely nerds anime at all. She's more of a gamer. During ACEN 08, she was still a minor, attended the con apparently alone (her father being absent and her mother being abusive), and was unbelievably obsessed with AMVs. She had tried for multiple years to go to conventions and signed up for 'video editors dinners' and such, but failed (presumably because of butting heads with her mother, or because being under 17 made it too hard to fly across the country for a convention)

What staffers do you think she might be hanging around? AMV staff, that's who.

Guess who was staffing ACEN AMV during 08? Yes. It was Jennifer. Who, as you can see, admits that she would hide in the 'AMV room' when she wanted to take a break where it was quiet. At this point she staffed Tekkoshocon and ACEN.

SO. I said it was circumstantial, but really. Younique has no personal experiences with Vic from what I can tell. Even though she speaks with authority, she does so entirely repeating what other people told her about him. Her very first con was a con which Jennifer Lynn Hunt staffed which is specifically the con she talks about going to hang out in the AMV gallery room when she wants to get away, and her story sounds eerily like the one Jennifer is peddling. She specifically identifies an 'AMV coordinator' who had a personal problem with Vic, and 'the head of another con' (like, say, Tekkoshocon, which she hadn't gone to but Jennifer sure did) who had to deal with Vic supposedly taking kids into his hotel room.

If Jennifer weren't a blatant liar this might give some weight and consistency to her story as she's apparently told it for a while, but what it looks like to me, is that since 2008 Jennifer's been spreading evil rumors about Vic and using her influence as 'staff' to give it more weight. She might even be the nexus for some of those 'Vic sleeps with underage fans at cons' rumors. The only problem left to solve is why she specifically has an issue with Vic.

Also, I did gather up Younique's full dox along the way, but I don't think it'll serve any purpose to drop it, since she's been quiet and I doubt she has more to offer. She doesn't follow any of the significant players on SM, because she's completely in her AMV/OW bubble.
 
Didn't Japan go fully digital fucking years ago and only go traditional in special cases?
It's largely mixed. I dunno japan's software art situation but I know corps will take the cheapest route. If that's traditional then god bless those brave souls.
That said, someone spoke rightly. Doing anime is far, far harder than a storytime animation. Seriously, ask Jaiden how much work she has to put into an animation she can say she'll be proud of 10 years down the line.... now multiply that workload by about 5. Then consistently pull it all off in about a week for every project.
People wonder why japanese committ suicide. large part of it is their work culture is shit. Not to rag on them but seriously. it's pretty bad. though thankfully they realized it themselves and are fixing it (seriously, the japanese government is fucking weird. On one hand its incestuous with corps and corrupt as all get out.... yet on the other hand it's been known to bring the belt).
 
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Alec Peters is also a shitbag that tried to blackmail people and use his "influence" to make people say things to come on his "successful" podcast. Those past podcasts are now deleted.
(Yes, she looks like a dangerhair, is a lesbo, but she believes in due process)
Edit: Go to 4:19 to get to the meat
TL;DR Bascially Alec tried to coeorice her to saying shit (or believing stuff) about Vic to work with him.
 
Happen to have a year for that accusation? Over in ManJaw's thread, we nailed down 2007 as her last year as Tekko's Head of AMV, then a male user named Vlad took over in 2008. And unless she's changed her story (yet again), IIRC ManJaw said he grabbed her butt while she was working in Guest Relations.

I made a full write up of it up-thread. The initial post I'm talking about happened in 2013, but the accusation appears to come from 2008, from someone who sounds very suspiciously like Jennifer. The story radical_yue regurgitates and seems to run with is the one about the underaged kids that appeared in his room, not the groping. I don't know what Jennifer's position was in Tekkoshocon during this time, but she claims to be working for them during that time according to her forum posts, and she definitely was still involved in the AMV staff in ACEN.

Alec Peters is also a shitbag that tried to blackmail people and use his "influence" to make people say things to come on his "successful" podcast. Those past podcasts are now deleted.
(Yes, she looks like a dangerhair, is a lesbo, but she believes in due process)
Edit: Go to 4:19 to get to the meat
TL;DR Bascially Alec tried to coeorice her to saying shit (or believing stuff) about Vic.

She's pretty leftist, she's just not leftist enough for tumblr. Thus, she ends up a target.
 
That's why Peters is so salty. He tried to ride the line too hard and CBS basically told him to match some "inferior" product in their charitable nature.

Hence the pointless, stupid fucking rants. Stuff like not being able to use STC's sets (Ones they had built themselves) and other impotent whining.

What's funny is Vic transferred the sets only in 2018 (Post production wrapping in late 2017) to the guys over at Starship Republic who are also set up as a charitable gig, meaning all their stuff hasn't been nuked either.

The sheer venality and spite and stupidity of every single one of these subhuman kick vic scum never ceases to amaze me. Is there a single one of these "people" who isn't an abject, disgusting, despicable waste of protoplasm?
 
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