Chris Chan Documentary.

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Good idea, but I hold any judgements until I see the final version. Also, as a batshit crazy side project I always wanted to do this: gather random people in a room and show to them all Chris' videos (and his albums, and the pictures/drawings/etc.). See the reactions. And then flee to another country.

Science.

EDIT: would you be offended if we download the final version? Only for archivistic purposes.

I would not mind, archiving things is what the cwc community does. And that's why I like it so much.

Maybe it's too simplistic, but I think Sonichu: The Saga of Christian Weston Chandler has a nice vibe.
Allot of people are suggesting names. Its a little douche to do but I am just gonna call it Christian Weston Chandler it fits fine. No need for edits.
 
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What's the music in the trailer?
egmont overture finale beethoven

I got allot of royalty free music in it as background noise so I dodge most of the copyright claims. Also each saga kind of has a "theme" I guess. Just each one with different music to kind of get a tone going.

I'm gonna be honest, you guys have scared the pants off me. Now that I know at least a few people want to watch it I gotta raise that quality standard from "Eh" to "it was ok"
 
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I'm gonna be honest, you guys have scared the pants off me. Now that I know at least a few people want to watch it I gotta raise that quality standard from "Eh" to "it was ok"

We don't mean to overwhelm you, we're just super hyped, is all.
 
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count me in the "was gonna shitpost and laugh at you until i saw you were serious about it and now i wanna see it" camp.

good choice on using adobe premiere. i'm a video editor myself (final cut pro supremacy here) and i can tell this is gonna be done right. you have no idea how many people throw shit in windows movie maker and pass it off as a hackeneyed documentary. premiere is tough as shit to work with but when you work through adobe's bs the end product is worth it.
 
where's the star transitions i dont see enough star transitions i rate this a 1/5

More seriously though, it looks pretty good. Pretty curious as to what the reactions are going to be at school when they see the real deal. [Also, let's hope you actually pass, I 'unno if there won't be too much disgust at it.]
 
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i love this community exactly because of shit like this. there's no tolerance of assholes showing up and farting around about making a chris chan doc to such a degree that these threads get locked on an almost weekly basis, but when some well-intentioned, talented kid shows up with some solid work done, everyone is supportive and cool about it

way to go, you magnificent buttholes

btw. good job on the trailer, friend.
 
i love this community exactly because of shit like this. there's no tolerance of assholes showing up and farting around about making a chris chan doc to such a degree that these threads get locked on an almost weekly basis, but when some well-intentioned, talented kid shows up with some solid work done, everyone is supportive and cool about it

way to go, you magnificent buttholes

btw. good job on the trailer, friend.

Thank you! :heart-full:
 
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OP, you're a really cool guy, but WTF is your profile pic? It reminds me of the terrifying error screens from the Gameboy Printer. Behold, I bring you madness!
 
Thank you spylobster. Thank you for making this day so much better with your ray of sunshine that is that trailer.

I too, had my doubts, but this does look promising. I cannot wait to see the final results.

HAHA I made that trailer in like an hour so I would get a grade. But THANK YOU!

This thread is going a little off topic more about me, lets sway it towards Chris. I have the story set up like this if anyone has any suggestions go right ahead
Intro>childhood>high school> college> sonichu> every saga> towards the fire it fades into more of why Chris is like the way he is> why someone would troll> how it could have been prevented> how hyped he is and the obsession people have over him> final last words about morals> end.
 
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Alright, time for some honest truth here. I just watched the preview, and the tl;dr here is that I think if it's in any way indicative of how the final project will turn out, this is a dumpster fire that will require a complete re-cut. I'm going to spoiler tag the rest so if you all don't want to read a 10-year television post-production veteran ripping on some high school kid's best try, you don't have to. The television & film industry is a brutal place that subjects one to terribly harsh criticism, and blowing things up is something you must expect. So....

The first tell to me is that, in the preview, the first cut comes :15 in, the first 30 seconds of the video has only 3 shots. That's unbelievably low. One of the most basic, old-school editing techniques is the video insert. Start on the graphic with the audio trailing under, and get cutting. Move it along. There's no "sizzle" to this, nothing that could draw the viewer in, attention spans are incredibly short. If you want people to get interested in this, there has to be a hook. There's no question posed, there's nothing mysterious presented, as far as I can tell, this is just a collection of found footage. There's no dilemma, what are you building to here? If I wasn't familiar with the source material, I'd have no idea.

I think that this piece is going to be way too long. 67 minutes is a very long time to carry, especially considering you're using mostly found footage and probably graphics to depict the "sagas." It's hard to see that from the inside, but I can't imagine a requirement of a high-school course is that your final project must approach feature length. Cut that shit down, start now. First, I would absolutely kill outright the interview with the sped teacher. I don't think any education professional who is paid to care about kids would want their name anywhere near this thing, at the very least, you owe it to him to give him a first look and the right to deny his appearance in this, due to the subject matter. Kill it. I can't imagine a 20 minute talk with that guy would be very interesting or insightful, I can just see it being trouble, right out of the gate.

What's your approach here? Let's think about who the contemporary, popular documentarians are. Three that immediately come to mind for me are Michael Moore, Morgan Spurlock and Louis Theroux. Why are these guys popular? Because they have personality. You want to find Roger with Moore, you take a critical view of Spurlock's viewpoints, and Theroux has balls of steel around very dangerous people. These are personality driven -- you watch because you enjoy the slanted, opinionated and personal views of these filmmakers. It's compelling, funny, outrageous, sad, and very very deliberate. Look at what Simon Ostrovsky and Shane Smith do with Vice, they are your guides.

The longest piece I ever cut, my senior documentary in college, weighed in at 11:30, cut down from over 14. It was still criticized as moving too slowly, and I'm sure I'd agree if I could find a VHS player to watch it again. We had tapes upon tapes of original urban exploration footage, beautiful stuff that we had to leave behind because it just didn't fit the time constraints. If you want to be a guide through the world of Chris-Chan, insert yourself into it. Shoot some stand-ups in front of a green screen, pose questions, lead the audience, think out loud, and for fuck's sake, MOVE IT ALONG. I know you're a student, but get ready for it, because losing an audience can be a terrible experience. These are my suggestions as someone who does this shit for a living. There will be times where you put a lot of care and time into cutting something, show your executive producer, he/she says "I don't like it" and walks out of the room. What do you do then?

CUT, CUT, CUT, CUT. Get out that hatchet and bring that runtime down significantly, keep it moving.
 
Alright, time for some honest truth here. I just watched the preview, and the tl;dr here is that I think if it's in any way indicative of how the final project will turn out, this is a dumpster fire that will require a complete re-cut. I'm going to spoiler tag the rest so if you all don't want to read a 10-year television post-production veteran ripping on some high school kid's best try, you don't have to. The television & film industry is a brutal place that subjects one to terribly harsh criticism, and blowing things up is something you must expect. So....

The first tell to me is that, in the preview, the first cut comes :15 in, the first 30 seconds of the video has only 3 shots. That's unbelievably low. One of the most basic, old-school editing techniques is the video insert. Start on the graphic with the audio trailing under, and get cutting. Move it along. There's no "sizzle" to this, nothing that could draw the viewer in, attention spans are incredibly short. If you want people to get interested in this, there has to be a hook. There's no question posed, there's nothing mysterious presented, as far as I can tell, this is just a collection of found footage. There's no dilemma, what are you building to here? If I wasn't familiar with the source material, I'd have no idea.

I think that this piece is going to be way too long. 67 minutes is a very long time to carry, especially considering you're using mostly found footage and probably graphics to depict the "sagas." It's hard to see that from the inside, but I can't imagine a requirement of a high-school course is that your final project must approach feature length. Cut that shit down, start now. First, I would absolutely kill outright the interview with the sped teacher. I don't think any education professional who is paid to care about kids would want their name anywhere near this thing, at the very least, you owe it to him to give him a first look and the right to deny his appearance in this, due to the subject matter. Kill it. I can't imagine a 20 minute talk with that guy would be very interesting or insightful, I can just see it being trouble, right out of the gate.

What's your approach here? Let's think about who the contemporary, popular documentarians are. Three that immediately come to mind for me are Michael Moore, Morgan Spurlock and Louis Theroux. Why are these guys popular? Because they have personality. You want to find Roger with Moore, you take a critical view of Spurlock's viewpoints, and Theroux has balls of steel around very dangerous people. These are personality driven -- you watch because you enjoy the slanted, opinionated and personal views of these filmmakers. It's compelling, funny, outrageous, sad, and very very deliberate. Look at what Simon Ostrovsky and Shane Smith do with Vice, they are your guides.

The longest piece I ever cut, my senior documentary in college, weighed in at 11:30, cut down from over 14. It was still criticized as moving too slowly, and I'm sure I'd agree if I could find a VHS player to watch it again. We had tapes upon tapes of original urban exploration footage, beautiful stuff that we had to leave behind because it just didn't fit the time constraints. If you want to be a guide through the world of Chris-Chan, insert yourself into it. Shoot some stand-ups in front of a green screen, pose questions, lead the audience, think out loud, and for fuck's sake, MOVE IT ALONG. I know you're a student, but get ready for it, because losing an audience can be a terrible experience. These are my suggestions as someone who does this shit for a living. There will be times where you put a lot of care and time into cutting something, show your executive producer, he/she says "I don't like it" and walks out of the room. What do you do then?

CUT, CUT, CUT, CUT. Get out that hatchet and bring that runtime down significantly, keep it moving.
The black spot at the start is something I didn't even know about and it didn't matter enough because considering everyone else movie trailer was just slideshows. I whipped it up in an hour.

Also I got this speech from the instructor and yeah it looks long when I say "so yeah its about 60 minutes." But when I personally look at the movie so far it seems like I just briefly talk about things. I give the audience a quick overview of whats happening and I show them the result and it still seems too short. Thanks for the advice but this is a movie that has coming from my heart and I am just gonna go with my gut feeling. But that being said I am definitely gonna go turn some of the videos of Chris into highlights to cut down on some major time. I don't think time is an issue just what i do with that time.

And the special ed teacher, I showed him the trolls and the worst of the fanbase. He is completely aware what its about and he feels that if I try and make people understand the mind of an autistic child it will help people laugh at Chris less and understand his actual problems. While still laughing at the goofball moments.

that being said thank you for the feedback and I will keep it in mind.
 
This thread is going a little off topic more about me, lets sway it towards Chris. I have the story set up like this if anyone has any suggestions go right ahead
Intro>childhood>high school> college> sonichu> every saga> towards the fire it fades into more of why Chris is like the way he is> why someone would troll> how it could have been prevented> how hyped he is and the obsession people have over him> final last words about morals> end.

You posted earlier about the length. it sound like there are more materials than you are able to cram into your project's length. If that's the case I suggest instead of "every saga" you can only briefly go over ones that are set up by trolls or even omit them altogether. This leaves only sagas that Chris brought upon himself (Game Place, Gamestop, Megan, Running over Snyder, each of these have the benefit of being related to one another as well), which is already plenty of material and more interesting anyway. Plus it is freeing you from having to go off on a tangent every time to explain every troll, and allowing the audience to focus on Chris's faults alone.
 
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