Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[troondetector]

More often than not, a contract (for a contracted worker) boils down to "we'll pay you X for Y amount of work". As such, as long as the person gets paid X, there's not a lot beyond that to say "we're done with the contract". I don't expect the contract specifies "as long as character A exists, voice actor B will voice it for X dollars", if it were that sort of thing then there wouldn't be any question about future iterations of the character, and yet, like the Simpsons/Maude example, characters do get new voices over simple pay disputes all the time. Anything more restrictive would be a double edged sword, because if the character for some reason exploded in popularity, the company can still hold the actor to a tiny wage because it wasn't a big deal at the start.

Funi has 1 year contracts for their VAs. They canceled the contract. They could have simply elected not to give him any work (depending on the contract) and let his contract run out, but they explicitly canceled it. If they didn't exercise a exit clause or did so under false pretense, they would be in breach afaik.

You can end at will employment without declaring cause, but usually for contracts you can't, though there very well could be incredibly vague exist options for Funi.

 

[Random Internet Person]

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That’s now how Streisand Effect works. There needs to be an attempt at removal first.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Holy shit, people are calling Nick racist because he used the word chimpout in one of his latest tweets! There's also someone saying we'll dox him because he's sperging out.

My brain needs a break.

What the hell is wrong with these people's racist brains? At least classical racists don't have any pretenses about everyone being as racist as them-- who the hell mentioned or even included black people in proximity of "chimp out" for people to start going "uh oh Nick you're being really racist right now"? Are they following the lead of the man who did his part to screw over the African-American community? Is that why I'm seeing all these people just assume that Nick is a racist because he used a term he didn't even work to apply to black people?

I'd rather someone outright be racist than have some mighty tighty whitey pretend that they're standing up for "the minorities" by blatantly projecting their racism onto others actually less racist than them so they can feel better for themselves. At least they're keeping up less pretenses for me to deal with.

 

[troondetector]

You’re both reading far to much into REN. REN is what used to be known in gaming and MMO circles a “griefer”. Her fun is causing pain to others. It isn’t so much ideology as she simply picks a side so she is allowed to fuck with the other side. She doesn’t give a shit about any of this beyond getting her rocks off harrassing people and having others praise her for it.

Griefer isn't a term Ren deserves. Ren isn't good at causing others pain. She's good at getting backpats and positive attention from desperate sjws. Which doesn't really take much on twitter, you don't even actually need a vagina, you just have to say you're a woman. Doubly so when you call a bunch of people the sjws already don't like Nazis and bigots. She engages and makes slightly less a fool of herself than the shoe eater, then brags about how she's "dunking" (its hilarious to me seeing fat white sjws brag about twitter dunking because actual dunking is such an impossibility in real life for them).

 

[AStupidMonkey]

Griefer isn't a term Ren deserves. Ren isn't good at causing others pain. She's good at getting backpats and positive attention from desperate sjws. Which doesn't really take much on twitter, you don't even actually need a vagina, you just have to say you're a woman. Doubly so when you call a bunch of people the sjws already don't like Nazis and bigots. She engages and makes slightly less a fool of herself than the shoe eater, then brags about how she's "dunking" (its hilarious to me seeing fat white sjws brag about twitter dunking because actual dunking is such an impossibility in real life for them).

Renfamous reminds me more of the "friend of a friend of the admin" on a minecraft server. "I'm going to tell my friend you were griefing, and he'll believe me, and you'll get banned, even though I didn't take any screenshots, and there's nothing in the server logs to back it up."

To extend the metaphor: go figure why nobody plays on her server. The only way to win is not to play.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

-Where do you think KF falls in all of this: "They're the motherfucking Predators in the motherfucking trees killing them all, one by one..."

Rial: I'm scared Ron.
Soye: Bullshit. You ain't afraid of no man.
Rial: There's something out there waiting for us, and it ain't no man. We're all gonna be doxed.

 

[Stoneheart]

"I'm going to tell my friend you were griefing

griefing is not okay in WoW? is there an even more kid friendly game than WoW?

 

[cwcvillemayoress]

There has been something that's been on my mind for awhile since this began.
If all of the incidents that Monica and Jamie are claiming happened on Funimation property then wouldn't the building be equipped with security cameras in the main lobby? Most places of business have security cameras that record the comings and goings of the workers and visitors.
And the very least if Monica really wanted to prove that she went to Vic's room with him on the date in question then there might be footage (if the hotel doesn't erase security video) of the hallway of the block of rooms where guests at the cons stay. Because all hotels have hallway security cameras.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

There has been something that's been on my mind for awhile since this began.
If all of the incidents that Monica and Jamie are claiming happened on Funimation property then wouldn't the building be equipped with security cameras in the main lobby? Most places of business have security cameras that record the comings and goings of the workers and visitors.
And the very least if Monica really wanted to prove that she went to Vic's room with him on the date in question then there might be footage (if the hotel doesn't erase security video) of the hallway of the block of rooms where guests at the cons stay. Because all hotels have hallway security cameras.

They all came out with these shitty allegations eons later. Any video that was recorded is long gone. Who keeps security video of normal everyday shit for over a decade? Especially if nothing was reported at the time to clue them in that it might be important to hang on to for CYA purposes.

 

[Stoneheart]

Who keeps security video of normal everyday shit for over a decade?

Blackmailer...

 

[Mythrilius]

There has been something that's been on my mind for awhile since this began.
If all of the incidents that Monica and Jamie are claiming happened on Funimation property then wouldn't the building be equipped with security cameras in the main lobby? Most places of business have security cameras that record the comings and goings of the workers and visitors.
And the very least if Monica really wanted to prove that she went to Vic's room with him on the date in question then there might be footage (if the hotel doesn't erase security video) of the hallway of the block of rooms where guests at the cons stay. Because all hotels have hallway security cameras.

If there was any "video evidence" that would've worked in their favor, the landscape screencaps would've been the front of that clusterfuck of a TCPA they filed. By now, any video evidence they have amounts to nothing more than tentacle hentai...

 

[3 Cucks None The Richer]

Slaves to their own memes...

Court can't come fast enough to finally set some precedence for these clowns to be fucked if they ever try this shit on someone else in the future.

Oh trust me- their children's grandchildren are going to be in debt for this dumb horseshit.

Punitive Damages are going to be bad enough as is- but the Exemplary Damages are going to be through the goddamn rough with all the retarded little stunts they pulled... just look at that shitty little hit piece of theres... and speaking of that hit piece.

Isn't it real thunk-provoking that FUNimation randomly followed Sharon Grigsby before the hit piece came out, then SUDDENLY a whole bunch of FUNimation Employees "Independent Contractors" magically made the exact same statement about it, some of which are almost exact copies of one another?

Gee, it would be really fucking bad for FUNimation if something like, I don't know... a Funimation Employment Contract existed and stated that FUNi could determine what their employees are allowed to say on social media. It would be really, really bad for them in court if such a contract existed and a certain Texan litigator and a Whisky Drinking Lawyer mentioned it over and over again.

 

[3 Cucks None The Richer]

"let's meet across from Anime Matsuri and have drinks. 3 peeps showed.

Goddamn I forgot about that- Shit!
I wish I would have gone just to bitchslap Lauren with a goddamn plate of nachos.

 

[ClickerCar]

Goddamn I forgot about that- Shit!
I wish I would have gone just to bitchslap Lauren with a goddamn plate of nachos.
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Thats some comedy gold. Some random chick just came up and attacked the mans nachos?

 

[SpiralStars]

Oh trust me- their children's grandchildren are going to be in debt for this dumb horseshit.

Punitive Damages are going to be bad enough as is- but the Exemplary Damages are going to be through the goddamn rough with all the exceptional little stunts they pulled... just look at that shitty little hit piece of theres... and speaking of that hit piece.

Isn't it real thunk-provoking that FUNimation randomly followed Sharon Grigsby before the hit piece came out, then SUDDENLY a whole bunch of FUNimation Employees "Independent Contractors" magically made the exact same statement about it, some of which are almost exact copies of one another?

Gee, it would be really fucking bad for FUNimation if something like, I don't know... a Funimation Employment Contract existed and stated that FUNi could determine what their employees are allowed to say on social media. It would be really, really bad for them in court if such a contract existed and a certain Texan litigator and a Whisky Drinking Lawyer mentioned it over and over again.
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The reporter & her organization are probably immune, but the people who used the reporter and organized the social media push is a clear double down of the defamation as a weapon to burn Vic for fighting back. I really hope they can get pulled into the suit. Especially if J Lemon is involved.

 

[TheClappening]

Something was bugging me. There was a picture posted somewhere (not in this thread I don't think, but I don't know where) of people following that Grigsby lady.

Funimation is no longer following her.

I also remember seeing Skyler McIntosh (A VA who started voicing maybe two years ago) following her. But, like Funimation, she's not following anymore. She does follow Vic. Also her twitter profile says:

Skyler McIntosh (@SkylerMcIntosh) on Twitter

archived 8 Aug 2019 09:16:36 UTC

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Skyler McIntosh (@SkylerMcIntosh) | Twitter

The latest Tweets from Skyler McIntosh (@SkylerMcIntosh). Daydream Believer, Christian, Actress, Ironman, Optimist & Pancake Lover. https://t.co/RhLfcxGZ9r

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"Christian"

Means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things, but I was just curious since I saw her name in a screenshot. I'm starting to think the newer VAs (who you'd think would be the woke crowd) simply don't have a hate boner for Vic, and it's all the entrenched veteran VAs.

EDIT
Tia Ballard, another semi-new VA (5 years maybe? Also has some larger roles like 02 from Franxx) who I remember says she's Christian, doesn't follow Grigsby either. Doesn't follow Vic, though.

Tia Ballard (@TiaToony) on Twitter

archived 8 Aug 2019 09:33:05 UTC

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Tia Ballard (@TiaToony) | Twitter

The latest Tweets from Tia Ballard (@TiaToony). Grit anchored by grace. Lover, daughter, creator. #Happy #FairyTail 02 #DarlingInTheFranxx Kagura #FruitsBasket|| cons: info@primetimeappearances.com. Lovely and weird

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Also Christian.

 

[UY 690]

Oh trust me- their children's grandchildren are going to be in debt for this dumb horseshit.

Punitive Damages are going to be bad enough as is- but the Exemplary Damages are going to be through the goddamn rough with all the exceptional little stunts they pulled... just look at that shitty little hit piece of theres... and speaking of that hit piece.

Isn't it real thunk-provoking that FUNimation randomly followed Sharon Grigsby before the hit piece came out, then SUDDENLY a whole bunch of FUNimation Employees "Independent Contractors" magically made the exact same statement about it, some of which are almost exact copies of one another?

Gee, it would be really fucking bad for FUNimation if something like, I don't know... a Funimation Employment Contract existed and stated that FUNi could determine what their employees are allowed to say on social media. It would be really, really bad for them in court if such a contract existed and a certain Texan litigator and a Whisky Drinking Lawyer mentioned it over and over again.
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WOW! It's almost like they are spitting on real women who survive rape. How about that? Also, they always gotta pull the "I block you if you are a troll trick" yes because questioning liers is conserved trolling in 2019 according to the twitter metoo fags. Only got one more month until Vic blows them out of the park. Also, archive the tweets in case they delete them fast. I wanna see their reactions when they lose soon. I wanna see this train crash when I buy popcorn.

 

[CheezzyMach]

WOW! It's almost like they are spitting on real women who survive rape. How about that? Also, they always gotta pull the "I block you if you are a troll trick" yes because questioning liers is conserved trolling in 2019 according to the twitter metoo fags. Only got one more month until Vic blows them out of the park. Also, archive the tweets in case they delete them fast. I wanna see their reactions when they lose soon. I wanna see this train crash when I buy popcorn.

It's going to be just like Geoffrey Rush and Johnny Depp once Vic BTFOs the hasbeen Funi clic.

 

[Luminugget]

You will be interested to know that Funimation just burnt Monica Rial and Jamie Marchi by including a new affidavit with a testimony that just screwed them over.

Vice President of Operations, Karen Mika - "Funimation did not control or direct any of the Twitter or other social media posts made by Jamie Marchi or Monica Rial about Vic Mignogna. Nor did Funimation control or direct any other communications made by Jamie Marchi or Monica Rial about Vic Mignogna"

This statement alone shifts any burden of responsibility from Funimation and onto Monica Rial and Jamie Marchi for any defamatory statements made online.

Hear that Monica & Jamie, you just got screwed by your own employer!

 

[CheezzyMach]

You will be interested to know that Funimation just burnt Monica Rial and Jamie Marchi by including a new affidavit with a testimony that just screwed them over.

Vice President of Operations, Karen Mika - "Funimation did not control or direct any of the Twitter or other social media posts made by Jamie Marchi or Monica Rial about Vic Mignogna. Nor did Funimation control or direct any other communications made by Jamie Marchi or Monica Rial about Vic Mignogna"

This statement alone shifts any burden of responsibility from Funimation and onto Monica Rial and Jamie Marchi for any defamatory statements made online.

Hear that Monica & Jamie, you just got screwed by your own employer!

The bus throwing begins...