Disaster Jeffery Epstein has comitted suicide - Matt Groening got him

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Convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein is dead, law enforcement sources said Saturday.

A gurney carrying a man who looked like Epstein was wheeled out of the Manhattan Correctional Center around 7:30 a.m. The ambulance went to New York Downtown Hospital.
 
Someone asked really early on for the description of what a suicide watch entails. I can't speak for corrections, but it exists in the military as "shadow watch," and also extends to people locked in the brig. When you get put on shadow watch, two people are standing beside you at all times, during every activity, and even as you sleep. The shifts are usually 4 hours each for the guys on watch, but there is always an overlap in shift change as to not allow for any breaks in monitoring. They will straight up lean over your shoulder and watch you pull your dick out to piss. Nothing goes unchecked. They also used to carry the little military style L shaped flashlights that had blue lenses in them, so anytime you were in a dimly lit area or while they were sleeping, they shined a blue light on your face and a blue light on your body. As you lay down to sleep, there's a dick sitting 7 inches away from you with a blue flashlight in your face. They don't talk to you and they don't respond when you talk to them. Their mission is to keep you alive, which includes a severe ass whipping if it means preventing you from self-harm. Mind you, these people on watch are always low ranking people with minimal seniority, as it's a boring and tedious duty that no one really wants. The only time I heard of someone duping their shadow watch was a kid that belly flopped off the third floor of the barracks as he was being walked to the laundry room, but he ended up surviving and crippling himself. Pretty sure he ate a bad conduct discharge for that stunt.
Pretty sure it's similar to that if not strapping you to a bed in the infirmary until it's over. Put it this way: their goal is to keep the prisoner alive until the sentence is served (or at least, until they get killed by bubba). If they wanted to let him an hero they'd reinstate the death penalty (yeah I read that article too).
 
Why would the Clintons?

It’s amazing you guys can understand 2+2=4 but will go the grave denying 3+1=4 as well.

Everything you have to say about the Clintons can be said about Trump. Either be critical of both or make like Etika. Trump has really got right wingers so up his ass they are denying things they would have called a conspiracy 5 years ago.

Dumb.

And not just because it’s more of the usual “hurr-durr both sides!”-bs. It’s dumb because it contradicts everything we know about the case.

The Epstein link has been investigated numerous times in the 16 election, and as an investigative reporter said back then: The case for the Clinton’s being connected were always stronger than with Trump. (Which is why the Dems don’t made more hay out of it.)

Whereas Clinton travelled numerous times on the Lolita Express, and even was a guest on Epstein’s private island, Trump travelled one time cross country on the plane, and never visited Epstein.

Yeah, Trump and Epstein were part of the same Palm Beach social circle, but that didn’t stop Trump from booting Epstein from his club when he got grabby with an underage employee of the club. Trump was also one of the only ones to voluntarily be interviewed by both police and attorneys suing Epstein, back when he first got in legal trouble.

But lemme guess... “Both sides!” And you saw a 30 year old soundbite of Trump saying Epstein is a terrific guy, before it was widely known he was a pedo?
 
Yeah, Trump and Epstein were part of the same Palm Beach social circle, but that didn’t stop Trump from booting Epstein from his club when he got grabby with an underage employee of the club. Trump was also one of the only ones to voluntarily be interviewed by both police and attorneys suing Epstein, back when he first got in legal trouble.
Your conservatardism is showing there, guy. Epstein straight-up recruited a girl from Mar-A-Lago.

The Jew York Times :
The fullest account is provided by Ms. Giuffre, who claims that Mr. Epstein forced her into being a “sex slave.”
In a sworn deposition, she said she first met Ms. Maxwell, the daughter of the British publishing magnate Robert Maxwell, and Mr. Epstein in the summer of 2000, when she was 16. At the time, Ms. Giuffre was working as a masseuse at the spa at Donald J. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort, where her father was a maintenance worker.
I've yet to see any receipts that Trump kicked Epstein out at any point.

EDIT: I'm not saying the Clintons aren't pedophile-er, but Trump is not squeaky clean in this.
 
What the fuck has happened to this week? Every morning I wake up and something new has come along to throw a wrench in things.
And how desperate do the elites have to be that they'd do this so blatantly? I'm worried something big will happen to try and distract people from the situation.
:story:

Why would Trump revive, kick-start, or otherwise engage in an investigation that would implicate himself?
And your evidence of this, I presume, is that one former Israeli Prime Minister?
So Bibi using Epstein as a weapon in some inter-Israeli political rivalry is proof that "powerful Jewish interests" are connected to Epstein?
Except that there wasn't likely anything in the cell to commit that method of suicide with.

Now how is any of that connected in a way that leads "Jewish interests" back to Epstein? Because as of now you're just throwing associations together to make a questionable cause.

The Clintons aren't Jewish, as well as several others in the supposed "top levels" of this scheme.

Seriously, what is this "guilt by ethnic association" nonsense people like yourself keep pulling with the Jews?So now the House of Windsor and the Clintons were just victims of blackmail, which you claim based on...what exactly?
>Literally just signed up today
>Already spewing nonsense about Israel

Oh and citation needed.

Fuck off with this self-righteous, fart-huffing autism, especially from someone who thinks that the Epstein case has an "essentially Jewish core" despite his apparent links to, among other things, a Gentile intelligence agency.

Ok Goldberg whatever you say.
 
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That guy is literally retarded and doesn't know the first thing about Epstein or that case. Everything that he knows about Epstein comes from this thread. Simply look at his career path and tell me that the case doesn't have "an essentially Jewish core". I don't care if you're anti-Semitic or not - this whole thing is Jewish.
 
Here's the PDF of his Little Black Book from the court documents. There's a few people boxed off and some marked a witnesses. Clinton's don't appear in it though.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted.html

I'm looking for the actual testimonies, I have only seen screen caps and articles in this thread. Do we have links to the actual documents? I could only find Virginia Giruffre's testimony.
http://images.politico.com/global/2015/02/03/edwardsdershaff1.pdf
 
Here's the PDF of his Little Black Book from the court documents. There's a few people boxed off and some marked a witnesses. Clinton's don't appear in it though.
Are we sure this isn't just one of those little dox notebooks that people used to carry around before the internet?
 
Your conservatardism is showing there, guy. Epstein straight-up recruited a girl from Mar-A-Lago.

The Jew York Times :

I've yet to see any receipts that Trump kicked Epstein out at any point.

EDIT: I'm not saying the Clintons aren't pedophile-er, but Trump is not squeaky clean in this.

Then you haven’t done your research. Quit relying on garbage like The NY Times.

Here’s one of literally a dozen of sources on it:

Best-selling author James Patterson — who wrote "Filthy Rich: The Billionaire's Sex Scandal--The Shocking True Story of Jeffrey Epstein" — told Fox News on Tuesday that then-private citizen Donald Trump threw alleged pedophile Jeffrey Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago after he was notified about complaints being made against Epstein.

Patterson responded: "Well, I know that there were some complaints about Epstein at Mar-a-Lago and also I spoke to the head of the spa there. I said ‘did you ever meet Epstein?’ She said, 'oh yes... he was inappropriate with some of the younger women
there.' She said she went to Trump and he threw him out of the club."


-kicked-ryan-saavedra
 
POTUS had one job to make Epstein stand trial. He can call up Mossad any time and ask a favor. Or Kim Jung's ninja squad trained by former NBA action film star Dennis Rodman. Clinton is too old to assassinate anyone, or even aim for a secretary's dress anymore.
 

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Then you haven’t done your research. Quit relying on garbage like The NY Times.
The girl said it in a sworn deposition. Your source is a guy who wrote something in a book. Also, this is not the way Epstein operates. Maxwell approaches the girls. He doesn't go around groping young-looking chicks.

You should go with the "Trump and Epstein had a falling out over a real estate deal" (Insider) narrative instead. Orange man wasn't clean, fam.
 
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Are we sure this isn't just one of those little dox notebooks that people used to carry around before the internet?
This is the blog that I found that link from. It looks like a legal blog that has been following the Epstein case but it has links to the originals so I think it's a good source.

Can't really know that for sure when there's names boxed out.
This is why I want to see the released testimonies, I think we'll be able to see why some people are boxed off and what level people were involved in. All I'm finding right now is the multiple motions to dismiss and Cernovich's petition to make the information public. They only have vague summaries of the testimonies and pretty much no names. The media aren't going to report on the really juicy stuff, there's a bit of a warning on that blog I linked warning against defaming statements in the media from information from the unsealed documents.
 
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This is the blog that I found that link from. It looks like a legal blog that has been following the Epstein case but it has links to the originals so I think it's a good source.

This is why I want to see the released testimonies, I think we'll be able to see why some people are boxed off and what level people were involved in. All I'm finding right now is the multiple motions to dismiss and Cernovich's petition to make the information public. They only have vague summaries of the testimonies and pretty much no names. The media aren't going to report on the really juicy stuff, there's a bit of a warning on that blog I linked warning against defaming statements in the media from information from the unsealed documents.
If you're talking about the Giuffre testimonies then at least some of those can be found over here. These are the ones I've been referring to whenever someone gets their hopes up that Trump's going to be implicated in any of this. She explicitly states (pg. 25) that though she was recruited at Mar-A-Lago--since she was working there at the time--Trump never had any connection with that, never personally saw Epstein and Trump hanging out, never flirted with her, and that she never saw him taking part in anything that went on at Epstein's island.

People are still going to speculate endlessly about it, I'm sure, but this testimony by itself doesn't implicate him. If you want the short run-down, it starts on page 40, but anything with a ✔ beside it means that there's a statement somewhere in that summary sentence that's untrue, which she's clarifying during the full testimony, or what we've received of it so far.
 
If you're talking about the Giuffre testimonies then at least some of those can be found over here. These are the ones I've been referring to whenever someone gets their hopes up that Trump's going to be implicated in any of this. She explicitly states (pg. 25) that though she was recruited at Mar-A-Lago--since she was working there at the time--Trump never had any connection with that, never personally saw Epstein and Trump hanging out, never flirted with her, and that she never saw him taking part in anything that went on at Epstein's island.

People are still going to speculate endlessly about it, I'm sure, but this testimony by itself doesn't implicate him. If you want the short run-down, it starts on page 40, but anything with a ✔ beside it means that there's a statement somewhere in that summary sentence that's untrue, which she's clarifying during the full testimony, or what we've received of it so far.
Thanks for those. I had seen the 2 pages about Trump being thrown around as screen caps. Any idea where the Matt Groening stuff came from?
 
how did he do it? bet it was masturbation by asphyxiation while jerking it to his favorite CP the sick fuck. one final fap before going to hell.
You fap in hell. Read your Bible people

Considering the kind of evidence that the police got their hands on just by raiding a single one of his properties, it's not as though it makes a tremendous difference whether Epstein was dead or alive at this point. Even just that one safe was loaded with videos and pictures with names on the labels. I can't imagine what sort of crap they must have found in any of his other properties, let alone the island. I do think it's hilarious that yesterday we had a name drop and massive, ~2,000 page infodump, and today we have a suicide, though.
How do these guys think they can get away with all this?
 
Thanks for those. I had seen the 2 pages about Trump being thrown around as screen caps. Any idea where the Matt Groening stuff came from?
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That's an excerpt from the Virigina Roberts testimony in the full document drop; Groening pops up on page 722 of the PDF. It's worth mentioning that on pg. 716 she says that she just recently had her 16th birthday, so she could have passed as being 18. The thought of Matt Groening receiving a foot massage from what he perceived to be an 18 year-old girl is still deeply unsettling but I wouldn't go so far as to say that it definitively proves that he did much more than that, although I wouldn't be surprised at this point.

I don't have much faith in Hollywood personalities, these days.
 
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The girl said it in a sworn deposition. Your source is a guy who wrote something in a book. Also, this is not the way Epstein operates. Maxwell approaches the girls. He doesn't go around groping young-looking chicks.

You should go with the "Trump and Epstein had a falling out over a real estate deal" (Insider) narrative instead. Orange man wasn't clean, fam.

I don’t know why you’d be so autistic as to assume that only one of the two can be true, when it’s perfectly plausible that there’s some truth to both.

Oh, and the girl whose sworn deposition you’re citing as 100% accurate (Cause nobody would ever lie in one of those, when there’s a million dollar lawsuit in play!). Let’s see what her lawyer has to say:

"There is no debate over what happened," Edwards told VICE news. "I served Mr. Trump with a subpoena for deposition in 2009. He talked to me voluntarily, and consequently we withdrew the subpoena in light of his voluntarily providing information…. I can't imagine there being any dispute of any of this."

Edwards also said that it is "obvious" Trump himself was not involved in any of Epstein's illicit activity.”


As for “some guy writing a book”, that’s not the only source for Epstein getting kicked out of Trumps club. It was widely reported over a decade ago.

On September 27, 2007 — a few weeks before the New York Post reported that Epstein was banned from Mar-A-Lago

Lurk more and read more buddy. You seem to think that you know everything, because you read a couple of articles from The NY Times and CNN, but this is an old story with tons of research done years ago.

And all that research shows that Trump had nothing to do with Epstein being a pedo.

As for whether their fallout was over a real estate deal, or because Epstein was a creep in Trumps club (as widely reported over a decade ago and again in 2016) in either case, that shows that Trump hasn’t been close to Epstein for many years, despite the exceptional attempts at linking them.
 
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