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Otherkin / Fictionkin / Therians - Weirdos LARPing as animals, mythological creatures, and fictional characters
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If you're going to be an alien that's the only one of your kind, you could at least be kind of cool.
Or have superpowers.
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what makes it really funny is a-true-wolf just autoblogs posts that contain a wolf tag with that message
http://a-true-wolf.tumblr.com/
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It's a cross between a dragon and a slug. It's pretty gross-looking, but apparently pokefags have a huuuuuge boner for it.
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Are they a Valkyrie-kin or something? Sounds like a Valkyrie, except the rotting flesh. Unless they mean the rotting flesh of dead warriors? What is this? Why is this happening? I need an adult.
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It's a pokemon. Goodra is some kind of goo dragon that REALLY made an impression on the furries.
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Macha-kin? I dunno. Sounds like some kinda death god.
Funny thing about the Otherkin derplords is that transhumanism is absolutely a thing, but nowhere near the way they think it is. It's a futurist concept, and usually deals with things like digital immortality and the transference of consciousness, but with genetic manipulation, shit, anything is possible. Wanna be a wolf? Grow a lupid sleeve in a vat and download your mind into it. Just remember to spring for the opposable thumbs and human vocal cords packages so you're not completely fucked over when you do. Eclipse Phase is a really well done exploration of transhumanism in a role-playing game, but it's not hard to find good transhuman SF stories (Scalzi's Old Man's War series is a good place to start).
So on the whole, wanting to be more than human is a surprisingly human thing. Hell, we've been trying to transcend humanity since the goddamn berserkers. In another hundred years, who knows? That computer-kin might actually be able to upload their consciousness directly into the cloud.
But by and large most of these otherkin are delusional weirdos with advanced cases of speshul snowflake syndrome.
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Last week, I re-read Cursed From Birth, a collection from among the last writing and correspondence of William S. Burroughs, Jr. (son of the famous Beat writer). Having read this thread and a few relating to the transgendered, I noticed a few passages that I hadn't paid much attention to before. What follows is a rambling post juxtaposing Burroughs, Jr. (Billy) and our otherkin friends.
People naturally question and play with their identities, exploring them as interfaces with the world and with themselves. One difference between Billy (and his father) and the examples others have pointed out is that Billy is in this respect not a hostile enforcer of other people's perception. This in spite of Billy's increasingly violent mood swings (thanks, particularly, to the steroids). I can empathize both with Billy's difficulties—and the sad conditions of his death—and with the environments and issues these otherkin are trying to cope with.
I try not to draw a line anywhere that says "experience A is valid, while experience B is invalid," but I think a lot of the people we see on Tumblr and elsewhere don't want to compromise with the harsh reality that not everyone will entertain their perceptions, nor will everyone respect them, nor will everyone alter their ingrained language so that "pronouns" might as well be replaced with proper nouns. Here's hoping that things work out for them.
Billy was an alcoholic and drug addict, and he eventually needed a liver transplant to stay alive. The transplant came from a woman named Virginia. His pre-existing suffering, the physical pain and disgust he lived with after the transplant, and the effects of the steroids he was taking to prevent the rejection of the transplant liver brought to surface some of the same behavior we see in the otherkin illustrated in this thread. Many others have pointed out that "headmates" and basic otherkin identity can serve as coping mechanisms. Billy's case was no different. He just used the physical fact of another person's flesh in his body as the starting point.
He briefly used this presence as a motivation to improve his life.
Unfortunately, he continued to abuse alcohol and other drugs. He also became suicidal, and seeking some escape from that possible route, briefly considered that he was transgendered, contemplating sex reassignment surgery.
This parallels a lot of what we see in these communities.
In a later letter to his father, Billy stated that he had a "problem" and called it schizophrenia—commonly confused with dissociative identity disorder (formerly multiple personality disorder). He went on to identify "three persons who compose my fractured I." Billy seems to be coping with dissociation from himself ("Billy the Writer"), tries to single out aspects of these personalities who cause his drug problems ("Zorba"), and, as with others, fills the third person in as the one who motivates real-world, survival actions ("the Fox on Ice").
(Bold emphasis mine.) He finishes this letter: "P.P.S. There is a fourth. It is Virginia. Aaak!" The last we see of this in Cursed From Birth is Billy's signature of "Zorba the Schmuck" on a subsequent letter, without further mention in the letter itself of these entities.
I'm on the fence about professionally-diagnosed dissociative identity disorder From my perspective, it seems to follow a spectrum between involuntary and voluntary, with a lot of self-diagnosis and "headmates," in my opinion, as manifestations toward the latter end. I see the voluntary side as a literary exercise, much as I view Freudian analysis and tarot: it's a way to impose one's experiences onto a given framework. To that end, I think Billy, a writer himself, was practicing just this. His father, an accomplished crazy guy in his own right, thought it was brought on by the prednisone, but acknowledged that valid insights can come from such experiences.
Cursed From Birth p. 118 said:
He briefly used this presence as a motivation to improve his life.
p. 119 said:
Unfortunately, he continued to abuse alcohol and other drugs. He also became suicidal, and seeking some escape from that possible route, briefly considered that he was transgendered, contemplating sex reassignment surgery.
p. 127 said:
This parallels a lot of what we see in these communities.
In a later letter to his father, Billy stated that he had a "problem" and called it schizophrenia—commonly confused with dissociative identity disorder (formerly multiple personality disorder). He went on to identify "three persons who compose my fractured I." Billy seems to be coping with dissociation from himself ("Billy the Writer"), tries to single out aspects of these personalities who cause his drug problems ("Zorba"), and, as with others, fills the third person in as the one who motivates real-world, survival actions ("the Fox on Ice").
p. 182 said:
(Bold emphasis mine.) He finishes this letter: "P.P.S. There is a fourth. It is Virginia. Aaak!" The last we see of this in Cursed From Birth is Billy's signature of "Zorba the Schmuck" on a subsequent letter, without further mention in the letter itself of these entities.
I'm on the fence about professionally-diagnosed dissociative identity disorder From my perspective, it seems to follow a spectrum between involuntary and voluntary, with a lot of self-diagnosis and "headmates," in my opinion, as manifestations toward the latter end. I see the voluntary side as a literary exercise, much as I view Freudian analysis and tarot: it's a way to impose one's experiences onto a given framework. To that end, I think Billy, a writer himself, was practicing just this. His father, an accomplished crazy guy in his own right, thought it was brought on by the prednisone, but acknowledged that valid insights can come from such experiences.
Burroughs Sr. (p. 185) said:
People naturally question and play with their identities, exploring them as interfaces with the world and with themselves. One difference between Billy (and his father) and the examples others have pointed out is that Billy is in this respect not a hostile enforcer of other people's perception. This in spite of Billy's increasingly violent mood swings (thanks, particularly, to the steroids). I can empathize both with Billy's difficulties—and the sad conditions of his death—and with the environments and issues these otherkin are trying to cope with.
I try not to draw a line anywhere that says "experience A is valid, while experience B is invalid," but I think a lot of the people we see on Tumblr and elsewhere don't want to compromise with the harsh reality that not everyone will entertain their perceptions, nor will everyone respect them, nor will everyone alter their ingrained language so that "pronouns" might as well be replaced with proper nouns. Here's hoping that things work out for them.
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I was poking around in the otherkin part of tumblr and I just thought the tags were amusing. It's like they're saying "My stupid made-up bullshit is totes legits u guise but your stupid made-up bullshit is a dirty dang twoll!"
I mean, if you can be plant-kin and rock-kin and forest-kin, why not any other sort of kin that can have an animus spirit associated with it?
But down that path lies madness.
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'Cause wolves are cool and awesome and mysterious and on t-shirts worn by fat guys with beards at the county fair.
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To be fair to that person, they're probably just roleplaying, and are not really an otherkin. There's a huge RP community in Champions Online that only got larger when City of Heroes shut down. That looks like a bog-standard shitty-roleplayer character background if I've ever seen one (and let me tell you, I've seen a few).
That said, a lot of the CoH and CO roleplayers are pretty weird themselves.
That said, a lot of the CoH and CO roleplayers are pretty weird themselves.
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Not too sure to be honest, since she screamed at the guy in the screen shot when he pulled her in to PvP (since these people liked to gum up the PvP area and annoy the people there to actually fight. Outside the actual area of course, to not get slaughtered by irate PvPers and the like) that she'll destroy him when she gets bigger. She described it sort of like how her dragon OC would grow with age and squash/burn him or something.
Plus, there's roleplaying, and then there's saying "speak human".
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Still sounds like shitty roleplaying to me. It's not impossible that they're an otherkin, but there are dumb shitty roleplayers in those games that refuse to break character for any reason, or mix IC and OOC chatter (IE, more shitty roleplaying). Regardless, they're still, shall we say, not a well-adjusted person, I'm quite sure.
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To be fair I don't really have a problem with otherkin. Put on your fox ears and yiff it up for all I care. The only things I take issue with them insisting they are somehow oppressed, trans-something ("species dysphoria" is a favourite term I've heard) or have "phantom tails/ears/wings" or other made up shit to justify any criticism of them being "ableist". Plus [noun]self pronouns. A lot of otherkin will ramble on all day about things being white-male-centric, but they forget that their precious flowerself/bunself/pickleself pronouns don't work when translated in to most non-English languages.
But, at the end of the day, if you go through the profiles of these otherkin characters, most of them are 10-14. When I was 10 years old I was utterly convinced that I was, in fact, a werewolf. It's mostly the product of an overactive imagination and 98% of them will grow out of it.
But, at the end of the day, if you go through the profiles of these otherkin characters, most of them are 10-14. When I was 10 years old I was utterly convinced that I was, in fact, a werewolf. It's mostly the product of an overactive imagination and 98% of them will grow out of it.
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Found these on an otherkin blog.
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