Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Relic 31]

I found an incredibly comprehensive article about Galaxy's Edge and its construction supposedly written by a former Disney insider columnist (Al Lutz) who offers some new details along with some shit about cancelled elements I've posted about before, and best of all... BEHIND THE SCENES DRAMA!

MiceAge Disneyland Rumor Update – Promising the Moon

This wasn't how the summer of 2019 was supposed to go for Disneyland. The TDA suits had been planning for years for the opening of Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge, fighting over budgets and parkwide projects that would help manage the huge crowds that would descend on Anaheim the moment Disneyland's...

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Its an interesting read and I suggest you all give it a whirl. It even goes into detail and drama going on during the park's construction, and its verifiable since everything he says matches up with what I've said about the interiors of the Kylo Ren ride, which he adds further by explaining that the reason the ride didn't open with the rest of the park was to numerous technical problems and delays. Apparently the ride isn't working as intended. He also mentions a shit ton of other things that were cut including what happened to the aliens and performers that would be at the park, like the bounty hunter. Its like that Tell All book we've been waiting for (almost)!

And to show Disney/Lucasfilm/Jake Lunt's "WTF" decision-making when it comes to aliens, the picture below was their new take on Banthas which were going to be used at Galaxy's Edge before getting replaced by a Dewback which got it quickly cancelled.
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And here's the unfinished and cancelled Bantha/Dewback animatronic.
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Also here's a very fitting meme.
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Thanks for linking that article, it was very informative. I really think this part says a lot about the whole situation:

“By 2017, the most cynical execs in Burbank defended the removal of the dinner show by insisting visitors would Instagram photos of their high priced cocktails and thus be entertained just as much as they would have been watching an expensive to operate dinner show.”

The arrogance is staggering.

 

[Ghostse]

And we are literally unable to get into "the machinations of the New Republic" since there is nothing of that sort. Until the movie novelizations (that no one reads) came out, no one had any clue what the fuck was going on in Abrams-Wars politically. And even after that, I'd argue that it's still just a really vast void of nonsense, since I doubt that the ones writing the novelizations are particularly clever or educated and thus lack the writing skills to come up with more than "Mon Mothma decided to abondon the military, since she was dumb enough to not realize what would happen in such a situation." There are no "politics" in the movie, most likely since JarJar couldn't lift a scene that establishes just what the hell is going on in the galaxy far far away... and he didn't think we might neet some establishing of how "The good guys won" went to "everyone is miserable, incompetent and is a massive failure."

There are plenty of real life historical examples of victors shooting themselves in the foot in roughly these sorts of ways.

They could have even done their #woke horseshit by having the Republic Military largely outsourced to elements that were open to corruption by secret Imperial sympathizers so when then FO shows up, armed with imperial-design weapons made of components made in Republic shipyards and factories but shipped to the hidden FO bases for assembly, the traitors in the Republic Military turn on any loyalist factions.
Then they destroy Republic command and control, leaving only planetary militia and scattered & isolated Republic forces - outposts deemed small or isolated enough they could be dealt with later. you could even have a nice "This isn't what I agreed to!" moment with one of the traitor generals.

The rest of the movie is surviving Republic elements regrouping for a counter attack to try to stem the advance and give the planetary militia and whatever is left of the Republic fleet time to prepare and fleet by taking out the nuDeathStar.

I still think the best thing they could've done that would've made audiences happy and allow JJ to rip off old plotlines was to make Starkiller Base into a Star Forge-sort of superweapon which eats stars to gain their metals and spits out warships and whatever else they need, so all they need is the crew and shit (which is where people like Finn come in). This was in Dark Empire too IIRC which they're ripping off in Episode IX. There, now you made a scary fucking weapon which could shit out a million of Snoke's flagship if you give them the chance instead of just Death Star but bigger.

That would be have been pretty cool and made sense about how the FO was able to build a fleet.

Boy StarWars.com is really desperate to try and salvage Galaxy's Edge OC hero Vi Moradi. They wrote a whole article describing everything about her with oodles of glorification. Seriously, why would you make a complete nobody the hero of your new STAR WARS park? A character who has never been in anything except a shitty novel about Phasma and periods.

Who is Vi Moradi, Resistance Hero of Batuu? | StarWars.com

StarWars.com takes a peek into this spy's dossier, and gives you what you need to know about her latest mission.

www.starwars.com

What the utter fuck.

Total sidebar, but as a kid, before the prequels, I always assumed that "Ben" was Kenobi's "Real" name and "Obi-Wan" was his "Jedi name". There is literally nothing to indicate this, but it was my own personal head-canon for reasoning why he would use "Ben Kenobi" as an alias for "Obi-Wan Kenobi". It isn't an alias! Its just his real name that he re-adopted after the Jedi fell.

But then the prequels happened and pretty much killed all of that, lol.

Same.

 

[Creep3r]

The more I read the more I want to know...

MiceAge Disneyland Rumor Update – Promising the Moon

This wasn't how the summer of 2019 was supposed to go for Disneyland. The TDA suits had been planning for years for the opening of Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge, fighting over budgets and parkwide projects that would help manage the huge crowds that would descend on Anaheim the moment Disneyland's...

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Instead of professional performers, by 2018 Chapek’s team had pivoted to an idea that the much lower paid Operations Castmembers who would staff the shops and rides and restaurants could be used to elevate the experience at a cheaper pay scale and would interact with the visitors with themed phrasing and gimmicky greetings. All of the interactive land performers, the roaming droids and drones who would be controlled remotely by higher-paid professional puppeteers, plus the rooftop stunt shows and unique alien characters that would not have come cheap were all cut by early 2018.

This explains so much. All the named shop owners and aliens with bios and descriptions who don't exist (which I've mentioned before) and all the little details and the obviously vacant areas feeling like they're missing essential occupants, it all makes sense. Not to mention all the treads and footprint markings from droids and animals in the park despite their absence. I mean for those who didn't read my GE info dumps (which start at page 500), each store in the park has an owner with unusual attention to detail despite not existing. This explains so much of that, all cut for the sake of cheapness and thinking Instagram whores and the SW label would be enough to bring in park goers and make cash. The absolute arrogance.

 

[Dom Cruise]

I just really can't get over how incredible this all is.

I remember in the 2000s Disney went through a rough patch, a lot of people seemed to just kinda be over them or at least discontent with their current state, I remember the "save Disney" campaign around 2004/2005 that ousted Michael Eisner.

Then a funny thing happened as the decade ended and the 2010s began, Disney became cool again, people liked them and were interested again.

So it took less than a decade for Disney to revive it's public image only to then fall flat on it's face again, it's just mind blowing.

How I long to return to 1998, when I got the Star Wars trilogy on VHS for Christmas of 1997 (granted it was the SE but that's all I knew as a kid) and I could watch the movies as much as I wanted, back before the Prequels, before the Sequels, before all this bullshit.

I still have that VHS boxset too.

 

[ManateeHunter]

I just really hate how they handled Phasma. Here I was, thinking she was gonna be this cool dominatrix badass villain, then they killed her off in the most stupid way possible in TFA, resurrected her, then made her die like a chump again in TLJ. For all the talk on "strong independent wahmen characters" they sure love to fuck her up.

 

[millais]

I just really hate how they handled Phasma. Here I was, thinking she was gonna be this cool dominatrix badass villain, then they killed her off in the most stupid way possible in TFA, resurrected her, then made her die like a chump again in TLJ. For all the talk on "strong independent wahmen characters" they sure love to fuck her up.

I can understand their thought process. They rather sacrifice the opportunity to set up a credible, competent antagonist who can actually pose a serious challenge to the protagonists, in favor of making sure it's very obvious who is the real Mary Sue that the audience should be cheering on.

 

[nobodytm]

I don't know if its been mentioned in the 600 pages, but the thing that got my blood churning was the "period planet of thot"

so much fluid

oh and shaming chewie for eating fried chicken wtf.

and every other second of the cancer.

 

[Relic 31]

The more I read the more I want to know more...


This explains so much. All the named shop owners and aliens with bios and descriptions who don't exist (which I've mentioned before) and all the little details and the obviously vacant areas feeling like they're missing essential occupants, it all makes sense. Not to mention all the treads and footprint markings from droids and animals in the park despite their absence. I mean for those who didn't read my GE info dumps (which start at page 500), each store in the park has an owner with unusual attention to detail despite not existing. This explains so much of that, all cut for the sake of cheapness and thinking Instagram whores and the SW label would be enough to bring park goers and make cash. The absolute arrogance.

It was already an uphill battle basing the park on the sequel trilogy characters and ideas, but then they cut so many things in the interest of greed and laziness that the park was always doomed to it’s current failure.

Anything even remotely interesting or creative was burned away, and all that remains is the echoes of someone’s ideas.

The funniest thing is that these idiots thought they were guaranteed success, that people would pay their ridiculous per day ticket prices, buy their overpriced food and drinks, and be satisfied with half-baked stores and poorly conceived rides.

Actually, I take that back. The funniest thing is seeing it all blow up in their faces.

 

[Maggots on a Train v2]

Vi Moradi makes me think that the failed Hasbro attempt to rebrand Sabine as orange-black wan't just a strange product design choice, but somebody trying to overwrite a minor character with their own recolor OC. And then when that toy and cartoon line bombed, they took their donut steel and made it a theme park character.

 

[Creep3r]

I just really hate how they handled Phasma. Here I was, thinking she was gonna be this cool dominatrix badass villain, then they killed her off in the most stupid way possible in TFA, resurrected her, then made her die like a chump again in TLJ. For all the talk on "strong independent wahmen characters" they sure love to fuck her up.

Funny thing is she wasn't even supposed to be in TFA. The film was almost 90% done when Kathleen Kennedy showed up one day to the art room and saw a sketch of a silver nu-trooper, she then went gaga over it and ordered them to put it in the movie but make it female despite not having enough time to even make that possible, hence her limited appearance. And she was conveniently revealed during the peak of the feminist gaming drama over the non-issue that was skimpy female armors in games, which just added more wood to the fire that was pop culture drama and conveniently creating a lot of free press for Phasma which involved endless clickbait articles about how she's the "wake up call" fandoms need to "grow up". Also that trash compactor gag irritates me to no end, not just because its another memberberry moment but the fact that wasting time going around a highly secure base to look for a trash compactor just to toss a random trooper into it is stupid in and of itself when Han would normally just shoot the fucker without a second thought. She was honestly more wasted and underwhelming than both Fetts.

In other news Hux not-Tarkin has no fans.

 

[Vault Boy]

In other news Hux not-Tarkin has no fans.

Not surprising, going from a ruthless bastard to an utter buffoon without warning would kill any character's credibility.

Any word if he's in IX, or is he just getting discarded entirely?

 

[Creep3r]

Not surprising, going from a ruthless bastard to an utter buffoon without warning would kill any character's credibility.

Any word if he's in IX, or is he just getting discarded entirely?

I mentioned before that he is (like around page 520 or 540 maybe) but he's been demoted and will now be playing second fiddle to "Allegiant General" Whyte Pryde.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I can understand their thought process. They rather sacrifice the opportunity to set up a credible, competent antagonist who can actually pose a serious challenge to the protagonists, in favor of making sure it's very obvious who is the real Mary Sue that the audience should be cheering on.

Finn, since he takes out Phasma both times? Wonder if that's acceptable given the progressive stack, does a cishet (assuming FinnxPoe isn't canon) black guy have an advantage over a white woman (maybe lesbian/bisexual since I think someone posted Phasma is canon homo).

I don't know if its been mentioned in the 600 pages, but the thing that got my blood churning was the "period planet of thot"

so much fluid

oh and shaming chewie for eating fried chicken wtf.

and every other second of the cancer.

Are you talking about the novel with Phasma and Vi Moradi written by that woman who thinks it's very important that periods be represented in books (especially Star Wars books)?

In other news Hux not-Tarkin has no fans.

Poor guy. I liked his performance in TFA even though his character was a blatant Tarkin knockoff. Him and Kylo were the only two interesting characters in the movie.

 

[Vault Boy]

I mentioned before that he is (like around page 520 or 540 maybe) but he's been demoted and will now be playing second fiddle to "Allegiant General" Whyte Pryde.
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Ouch. That's certainly the cherry on top of the shit sundae for his character...

 

[nobodytm]

perhaps i was.
everything is symbolic

 

[ManateeHunter]

Funny thing is she wasn't even supposed to be in TFA. The film was almost 90% done when Kathleen Kennedy showed up one day to the art room and saw a sketch of a silver nu-trooper, she then went gaga over it and ordered them to put it in the movie but make it female despite not having enough time to even make that possible, hence her limited appearance. And she was conveniently revealed during the peak of the feminist gaming drama over the non-issue that was skimpy female armors in games just adding more heat to pop culture drama and creating a lot of press for Phasma with endless clickbait articles about how she's the "wake up call" fandoms need to "grow up". Also that trash compactor gag irritates me to no end not just because its another memberberry moment but the fact that wasting time going around a highly secure base to look for a trash compactor just to toss a random trooper into it is stupid in and of itself when Han would normally just shoot the fucker without a second thought. She was honestly more wasted and underwhelming than both Fetts.

JFC when the character design you like the most is revealed to be some last-minute woke jerkoff character…

Please go to Hell Kathleen. Fuck you.

 

[Creep3r]

Finn, since he takes out Phasma both times? Wonder if that's acceptable given the progressive stack, does a cishet (assuming FinnxPoe isn't canon) black guy have an advantage over a white woman (maybe lesbian/bisexual since I think someone posted Phasma is canon homo).

Who can say really. Standards are so wacky I can't keep track. But as far as being a lesbian goes, I don't think she's actually been involved with anyone. Although its mentioned that the tribe she came from were a bunch of violent "free love" warrior hippies who engaged in casual sex or something regardless of gender. And I was told that the new comic she got recently had a female rookie nu-trooper fall in love with her only for Phasma to constantly scold her then eventually betray her, and all the while in the comic Phasma revealed that she was sort of a coward who sacrifices others, even her own, just to survive. She's also a huge "racist/xenophobe" due to hating anything having to do with aliens and scolding a former comrade for snorting spice and drinking wookiee alcohol because they were alien goods.

Are you talking about the novel with Phasma and Vi Moradi written by that woman who thinks it's very important that periods be represented in books (especially Star Wars books)?

That seems to be the most likely culprit.

Delilah S. Dawson

Delilah S. Dawson (born October 21, 1977) is an American author who wrote the short stories "The Perfect Weapon," set before the events of Star Wars: Episode VII The Force Awakens, and "Scorched," a prequel to Claudia Gray's novel Bloodline, published in Star Wars Insider 165. It was revealed on...

starwars.fandom.com

And the author is writing a LeiaxHoldo comic as we speak...

Seriously Disney, stop pushing this character already. She's fucking everywhere now. Also for those of you barely interested, the comic's story revolves around Holdo and Leia going on a getaway for some private time on Coruscant where Leia teaches Holdo how to ride a speeder, and it ends with them getting trapped in the criminal levels of Coruscant where they fight off gangsters despite being in their 60s.

Poor guy. I liked his performance in TFA even though his character was a blatant Tarkin knockoff. Him and Kylo were the only two interesting characters in the movie.

Hux's actor really got the short end of the stick in all this, and his and Finn's characters are probably the most shamed and humiliated ones under Disney (not counting the abuse suffered by pre-Disney characters). Neither characters even get a role or meet&greet at Galaxy's Edge surprisingly despite supposedly being sequel focused.

 

[CWCissey]

I mentioned before that he is (like around page 520 or 540 maybe) but he's been demoted and will now be playing second fiddle to "Allegiant General" Whyte Pryde.
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Oh Richard E Grant, noooo.

 

[Adamska]

It's impressive that they're spite forcing a character who appeared and died in a movie they're going to mostly wipe. I know it's the mentally retarded monkeys at Marvel and the Story Group doing it, but seriously, absolutely no one likes Holdo as she stands.

And the thing about Hux, Finn, and many other characters were they all had potential in even a mediocre writer's hands (no seriously, there's a reason I was doing the scripts besides as a way to see what could have been; I was highlighting this). But at no point are they given something to build on. In the case of Poe, he never had anything since they fucking rewrote him to ensure Oscar Isaac had nothing to do for the movie for very vague reasons.

Shit, it's embarrassing that Disney won't even use 2/3's of their "trio" for their fucking park and are pushing wokeshit that don't sell.

Remind me tomorrow to write a pt. 5 to TLJ, I think I have my ending in mind too...

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Delilah S. Dawson

Delilah S. Dawson (born October 21, 1977) is an American author who wrote the short stories "The Perfect Weapon," set before the events of Star Wars: Episode VII The Force Awakens, and "Scorched," a prequel to Claudia Gray's novel Bloodline, published in Star Wars Insider 165. It was revealed on...

starwars.fandom.com

And the author is writing a LeiaxHoldo comic as we speak...
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I looked her up on Amazon, and from what I saw, she's a reasonably competent writer of trash-tier romance novels. Not as bad as I was hoping- no perpetual present tense or Chuck Wendig word salad, even though she meanders as many female authors are wont to do.

Though it is extremely telling that Disney is hiring romance novelists to do their pulp sci-fi tie-ins instead of... you know, science fiction writers. She must work for cat food and Ben & Jerry's.