Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Gar For Archer]

Vic has to want to settle though. Obviously I don't know what he is thinking, but I have to imagine him glancing around twitter and still seeing the likes of Armzgurl and other Pull maniacs still wanting to fuck with his future earning capacity and thinking 'I've got to push the laws suit for all I can get'.

Unfortunately for him, no matter how this case ends up, there are always going to spiteful catlady cuntz in his future.

Based on what Ty’s said about Vic in the past, it seems like he would rather settle and not to go full scorched-earth.

Then again, that was Vic months ago. Who knows how he feels now?

 

[I can't imagine]

Vic has to want to settle though. Obviously I don't know what he is thinking, but I have to imagine him glancing around twitter and still seeing the likes of Armzgurl and other Pull maniacs still wanting to fuck with his future earning capacity and thinking 'I've got to push the laws suit for all I can get'.

Unfortunately for him, no matter how this case ends up, there are always going to spiteful catlady cuntz in his future.

The counter point to that, however, is that he's still stuck in a lawsuit that could easily keep going for quite a while, with more lawsuits potentially following behind it. I'm not sure if you've ever been in a lawsuit before, but even if you're in the right, that shit can get pretty fucking tiring to deal with.

 

[GeneralMint]

Based on what Ty’s said about Vic in the past, it seems like he would rather settle and not to go full scorched-earth.

Then again, that was Vic months ago. Who knows how he feels now?

Vic is unfortunately kind. And thats not always a great quality to have amidst a legal battle.

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

Funi is going to double down. They are run by leftist morons without much business sense. Leftists cannot admit they were wrong.

I'm hopeful for this purely for the trainwreck getting better.

You're wrong about being forced to employ vic. Toei has the ability to force VA's into roles against the wishes of Sabat, who owns the studio DBZ is voiced in. If Toei pushed it, with a loss under Funi's belt, they could force Funi to employ Vic again and they can really only refuse to dub DBZ in response which... do I need to say how much money they'd lose?

FUNi started this fight and I can see them dying on that hill. Besides, almost everyone there hates Vic and purging all their invalid employees for one man is a never ever, regardless of Toei power. They'd rather be hollowed out and turned into Aniplex South or something equally as laughable.

 

[Hakuba Gaijin]

I'm hopeful for this purely for the trainwreck getting better.

Same!

 

[feral cat #6385]

Based on what Ty’s said about Vic in the past, it seems like he would rather settle and not to go full scorched-earth.

Then again, that was Vic months ago. Who knows how he feels now?

Going scorched earth sounds expensive. Not sure Vic has or wants to spend the two million it will take to go after everybody. Also the more people he takes down the more people will rise up to take their place as has been illustrated by Jennifer Lying Cunt.

 

[Crazedking]

why did ty quote that useless chink?

Ty is a war otaku. i mean the guy got a fucking terracota statue. Of course hed quote Sun tzu.

 

[Drip Feed]

I'v been reading the last few pages but didnt see anything on the next trial dates, do we have any dates for anything soon? i missed Nicks recent stream.

 

[Aria]

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What an idiot. And this is the guy who Nick wants to meet in person

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"Vic is a criminal" okay what crime did he commit and why hasn't he been convicted and charged of crimes he didn't commit.I wonder why this hasen't happend it's like this events didn't happen.

And vic has lost the case for the 400th time today its over guys.

 

[Random Internet Person]

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I never understood why Ty constantly gets blasted as a moron. Are these people so unwilling to be like KF that they won’t even speculate what’ll happen, even if it’s an L?

Based on what Ty’s said about Vic in the past, it seems like he would rather settle and not to go full scorched-earth.

Then again, that was Vic months ago. Who knows how he feels now?

I’m betting he’d still want to settle because I think that the more this goes on, the more he looks like a dick and the less he’ll be able to do what he loves. I don’t think he understands Twitter mobs as well as somebody like Nick, but him actually going to court shows he won’t go quietly. I think even actually suing was a tough choice for him to make because he saw them (and possibly still does) see the defendants as friends. Except Ron.

Same!

I’m here because of RWBY. At least I got to see FMA:Brotherhood before a potential unpersoning.

 

[nohm]

I'v been reading the last few pages but didnt see anything on the next trial dates, do we have any dates for anything soon? i missed Nicks recent stream.

The hearing on the TCPA motions will take place on September 6th, but there will be new documents filed before on or before August 30th in preparation for that hearing.

 

[Allanon]

You're wrong about being forced to employ vic. Toei has the ability to force VA's into roles against the wishes of Sabat, who owns the studio DBZ is voiced in. If Toei pushed it, with a loss under Funi's belt, they could force Funi to employ Vic again and they can really only refuse to dub DBZ in response which... do I need to say how much money they'd lose?

I don't know what you mean. Toei is totally separate from Funi, and could force them to keep Vic in Toei roles with or without the lawsuit. However, there's no reason at all to believe they will do that. It's not Good Guy Toei vs Bad Guy Funi. Have you seen Toei step in and slap Funi around at all yet? Sabat got confrontational with Toei over his studio tour and they slapped him by forcing the name/image change and yanking their VA. They've done nothing else so far, so Vic would be foolish to rely on 'Japan will come to my rescue'.

Based on what Ty’s said about Vic in the past, it seems like he would rather settle and not to go full scorched-earth.

Then again, that was Vic months ago. Who knows how he feels now?

Vic is nice and holding back the dogs of war, but he's also been very clear about the fact that he wants his jobs back. This isn't about making millions, this isn't about humiliating and getting revenge on these people who screwed him. This is about clearing his name and getting his work back. Any settlement that will accomplish that is something you have to assume he'll consider, and anything that doesn't accomplish that you have to assume he'll ignore. It's easy to forget and assume that he's got the same vindictive desires as ISWV, or that he wants to humiliate them for amusement like KF, but that's not what this lawsuit is about for him.

 

[AnOminous]

0 clue as to whether it was posted on the thread yet, but terez made a post about 11 days ago on the r/dbz subreddit regarding super part 2. Once again, it is confirmed funimation has no knowledge of any continuation to the series. Most of you won't care, but I think this might indicate that Toei might have other plans with who holds their English dubbing rights. Of course, It could just as easily turn out to be nothing.

I will begin to doubt all I have heard about Japanese corporations supposedly being extremely concerned with losing face and honor if they are not deeply offended by this very American and very public degradation of their properties.

 

[Garm]

I’m betting he’d still want to settle because I think that the more this goes on, the more he looks like a dick and the less he’ll be able to do what he loves. I don’t think he understands Twitter mobs as well as somebody like Nick, but him actually going to court shows he won’t go quietly. I think even actually suing was a tough choice for him to make because he saw them (and possibly still does) see the defendants as friends. Except Ron.

There are pro-Vic factions in every company and convention involved with this. There are also pro Monica factions.

Pro Monica factions have the upper hand right now because "believe all women." Once Monica is revealed to be a liar all those pro Monica people will lose credibility.

Especially when the accountants start pointing out that Vic brings in more money off-site than all the VA's on site.

 

[Stoneheart]

Ty is a war otaku. i mean the guy got a fucking terracota statue. Of course hed quote Sun tzu.

He lost the case again...
the chink is useless. his claim to fame is that he beat some bug people who didnt know how to war...

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Vic is nice and holding back the dogs of war, but he's also been very clear about the fact that he wants his jobs back. This isn't about making millions, this isn't about humiliating and getting revenge on these people who screwed him. This is about clearing his name and getting his work back. Any settlement that will accomplish that is something you have to assume he'll consider, and anything that doesn't accomplish that you have to assume he'll ignore. It's easy to forget and assume that he's got the same vindictive desires as ISWV, or that he wants to humiliate them for amusement like KF, but that's not what this lawsuit is about for him.

For Vic, according to him in his deposition, he hardly knows what he's supposed to do in order to make things right-- his former friends are shittalking him and stonewalling any attempt for him to even figure out what he could have done wrong (because he didn't do anything wrong), damaged fujos and other adult girls with learned autism who couldn't be bothered to say anything when he hugged them for a photo are speaking out just because they want to be known and cause damage, and even crazier cat ladies (along with his former friend's fiancé boy toy beard ...breadwinner?) are trying to run his income to zero by tortiously interfering with his contracts and business prospects.

But he had to endure a man with 45% lung function interrogate him as to whether he's called anyone a con slut, after having to admit that he hired a prostitute, after having to admit that he failed his fiancée, after having to admit that he's been sleeping around for years. He had to face the fact that he didn't know the people who he called friends, who he palled around with for two decades, who he worked with in all kinds of circumstances. He presently has to deal with some failure of a lawyer and a man turning a character he was honored to voice into a slur as he continues to throw his bar license clout around, and other lawyers of similar levels of failure similarly trying to gain clout. He has to deal with Mr. 45% Lungman try to embarrass him on a national scale by framing his being defamed as a #metoo case-- doubtless by the order of his former friends, who, even now, are trying to ruin his reputation and his life.

And he still doesn't know why.

Dumb lawsuit wishlists aside, I think ISWV is essentially of the very reasonable understanding that the best chance Vic has at sufficiently restoring his reputation and his job prospects inherently involves the stark humiliation of his defendants. There's this trope in this forum that Vic's isn't vindictive enough to completely wreck his former friends in court, that he's too Christian for it, that he's too "New Testament"y.

I wager that all of that is absolutely irrelevant to what Vic will find that he needs to do.

Regardless of how much Vic wants to hold back, there is no verdict, nor is there any settlement, that will accomplish what he wants that will not absolutely ruin his defendants. The support Rial and company have will dry up very quickly between the force of the verdict and the force of the publicized evidence, even among their woke allies, who will more than likely make like vultures and desert them when they realize they don't have an audience anymore because everything's been said and done for most people. If they have to get to judgement, they'll have at bare minimum a million in attorney lien as well as what they owe to their own attorneys. Their job opportunities will dry up because they will have demonstrated themselves an absolute liability to any workplace, and their SEOs will probably be accordingly screwed, so who knows if they won't be considered radioactive outside the VA industry.

There are other dubbing firms with other well-known VAs. Funimation not only has competition, but can be replaced altogether, and the loss of trust should they have to pay out for Vic (and potentially also on behalf of Rial and company) will wreck public trust in them. Perhaps instantly, perhaps merely rapidly, perhaps only eventually, but the weight of their failure will follow them and sap away any good will in their direction until there's nothing left and they become white noise.

Those aren't necessarily things that Vic will want to accomplish, but Vic wants his reputation restored, Vic wants his job security back, and he wants this defamatory nonsense to end-- and that can't happen via verdict or settlement without his defendants facing the music and accepting that they'll be the ones passing out of the industry.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

I never understood why Ty constantly gets blasted as a moron. Are these people so unwilling to be like KF that they won’t even speculate what’ll happen, even if it’s an L?

Like Nick mentioned, these people quickly married a point of view and dug-in on it. Anything contrary to their point they dismiss and try to discredit by any means possible, hence the ad homenim attacks on Ty, trying to discredit him as a professional.

This was also a product of Doucette framing Ty in a negative way when he introduced the case to his audience; which was likely a calculated move by Doucette in the first place.

It seems like T. Dolt is trying to distract Ty and get him fighting anything but the defense, much like how Nick is getting Lemongrab to fight him instead of BHBH's motions etc.

 

[AnOminous]

It seems like T. Dolt is trying to distract Ty and get him fighting anything but the defense, much like how Nick is getting Lemongrab to fight him instead of BHBH's motions etc.

He's wasting his time. He could blow through ten thousand tweets without getting more than a laconic equivalent of μολὼν λαβέ out of Ty.

 

[Stoneheart]

Like Nick mentioned, these people quickly married a point of view and dug-in on it.

digging in always works...

mansteining around some fags...

 

[Dopey Cunt]

He's wasting his time. He could blow through ten thousand tweets without getting more than a laconic equivalent of μολὼν λαβέ out of Ty.

Is it bad that I want Nick to troll him and piss him off so bad that Lemuah hyperventilates himself to death?