Manosphere Marijan Šiklić (ThatIncelBlogger) 2: The Revenge

[Lalala]

C'mon Marjikins, we just want to hang out with you and have a nice discussion about other topics you may enjoy. What about music?

I am pretty eclectic myself. I do like some Classical, but lately I have been enjoying some Electronic. Do you have any favorite bands Marjan?

This is a good topic, I noticed in your pic that you have the classic stud gloves, I have a pair too actually. Are you a fan of metal/rock perchance?

Note to self; the best method to kill a thread is to be civil.
Ok I have a question about your views on women then; how do you determine whether a woman is a western slut or not? What criteria would she have to meet to be considered as such or do you believe that all western women are sluts by default and there are no exceptions to this rule?

 

[Ryker]

Note to self; the best method to kill a thread is to be civil.

You may well be right, sadly. I was hoping that Holden might engage with us on a more personal level but It would appear that such a hope is misplaced. It is a pity as I was hoping for a rapprochement of sorts and a genuinely civil exchange of ideas. Maybe I should start insulting him again and he will come back. Could he be a glutton for punishment and simply need acrimony to function? Who can say?

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

But we've heard all that and you know we don't agree with it so it would just be treading old ground. We know we're not gonna change your opinions, you know you're not gonna change ours and it would just end up being yet another multi page insult thread. You don't have to talk about yourself in private details, just discussing games, music, movies, hell anything would be a nice change, you can't be 100% defined by your views on women after all, there's a human in there too dude.

alright. but i explained why i no longer want to.

Note to self; the best method to kill a thread is to be civil.
Ok I have a question about your views on women then; how do you determine whether a woman is a western slut or not? What criteria would she have to meet to be considered as such or do you believe that all western women are sluts by default and there are no exceptions to this rule?

criteria - live in the cultural west (not necessarily anglosphere or western europe, what imbeciles here can't understand), -not be a virgin and be unmarried

 

[Lalala]

criteria - live in the cultural west (not necessarily anglosphere or western europe, what imbeciles here can't understand), -not be a virgin and be unmarried

Ok so as an extension you believe that all women have to be virgins before marriage but men don't, correct?

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

Ok so as an extension you believe that all women have to be virgins before marriage but men don't, correct?

yes, all women aside from prostitutes.

also, something about the cultural west. not all of it is the same. country where i am living has many tenants of it but lacks others. an average young person here, while being a moron, is an einstein compared to a young anglosphere person of the same age. when i see young people here i am quite sad. but when i see young in anglosphere or western europe all i get is a gag reflex.

 

[SpessCaptain]

yes, all women aside from prostitutes.

also, something about the cultural west. not all of it is the same. country where i am living has many tenants of it but lacks others. an average young person here, while being a moron, is an einstein compared to a young anglosphere person of the same age. when i see young people here i am quite sad. but when i see young in anglosphere or western europe all i get is a gag reflex.

Are you really saying that people from your country are smarter?

Your country is below the average IQ at 10% below average and is ranked with the same intelligence as Chile and Turkey.

Proof: http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html


Want more proof?

 

[Ryker]

Serious question, Holden: would you say that you have the capacity to respect women individually as a basic tenet of an enlightened society or are women to serve as helpmeets to their menfolk? My point is, are women defined by their relationships with men, or by their worth as individuals?

 

[Lalala]

yes, all women aside from prostitutes.

also, something about the cultural west. not all of it is the same. country where i am living has many tenants of it but lacks others. an average young person here, while being a moron, is an einstein compared to a young anglosphere person of the same age. when i see young people here i am quite sad. but when i see young in anglosphere or western europe all i get is a gag reflex.

Heh well we do have a little common ground then, some of the young people in my country that I've met have made me wanna weep for humanity. Although the prostitutes thing intrigues me, I know you're not exactly a fan of women having the same rights as men since you believe we'd use that to start stripping men's rights from them (I of course heavily disagree but you already know that so I'll save it) so how would the prostitution system work in this context? If a girl knew that the only way she could get married was to stay a virgin, how would it be decided who'd be a prostitute since very very few women would want that?
As an additional with your idea that a woman must be dominated and raped, how would any girl get married if she's immediately being forced to have sex? Or is that literally just what you do to 'sluts'?

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

Are you really saying that people from your country are smarter?

yes, not connected to iq.

 

[4Macie]

1) i know how biology/human nature works
2) i would fuck one but not marry one. of course, in a sane society i'd just fuck a prostitute of that age
3) no
4) i don't remember saying the other. anyway, i still agree with the dog part, but it's completely hypothetical. like me telling what i'd do if i were barack obama.

1) I too know how biology works. But what about mentally? A 13 year old is not mentally ready to be a prostitute or a wife yet. What would a sane society to do promote mental health in these 13 year old prostitutes/wives. And why 13? Is there a reason that number stands out to you? A 13 year old, physically speaking, is the same as a 6 year old. The organs are at the same developmental phase and everything. The ONLY difference is that she MAY have hit her puberty. But some women hit puberty at 10 and some don't hit it until their 16-18. So is puberty the factor? Because that age is different for literally every girl. Why 13? What's so biologically different in them? Cuz, as I said, they are physically the same as a 6 year old. They may not even have boobs yet. And, as I also said, they sure as hell are mentally capable yet.
2) Why would you be ok fucking a 13 year old, but not marrying one? Why is it only sex with you?
3) If you asked her 3 times, out of desperation, why wouldn't you have done it if she said yes? Why did you even bother asking 3 times? What was the point in asking? It'd be like a starving man asking for food and then saying no when someone finally brought it to him.
4) You agree with it, but it's hypothetical. So you wouldn't actually do anything to your future girlfriend to keep her with you? Or are you saying it's hypothetical because you can't get a girlfriend?

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

Heh well we do have a little common ground then, some of the young people in my country that I've met have made me wanna weep for humanity. Although the prostitutes thing intrigues me, I know you're not exactly a fan of women having the same rights as men since you believe we'd use that to start stripping men's rights from them (I of course heavily disagree but you already know that so I'll save it) so how would the prostitution system work in this context? If a girl knew that the only way she could get married was to stay a virgin, how would it be decided who'd be a prostitute since very very few women would want that?
As an additional with your idea that a woman must be dominated and raped, how would any girl get married if she's immediately being forced to have sex? Or is that literally just what you do to 'sluts'?

prostitutes would be women forced into it by poverty or just women who aren't interested in marrying but aren't asexual. a good idea to create a permanent caste of prostitutes would be to enslave known feminist fanatics as well and use their offspring for this.

you are right about the last part. sane women don't want to be raped. they want to be dominated, but by gentle, sane men. modern sluts just want to be treated like scum and rape. any politeness and gentle treatment is a grave crime to them.

 

[Lalala]

prostitutes would be women forced into it by poverty or just women who aren't interested in marrying but aren't asexual. a good idea to create a permanent caste of prostitutes would be to enslave known feminist fanatics as well and use their offspring for this.

you are right about the last part. sane women don't want to be raped. they want to be dominated, but by gentle, sane men. modern sluts just want to be treated like scum and rape. any politeness and gentle treatment is a grave crime to them.

Use....their offspring. For prostitution.
Ok I agreed to be civil and polite about this, truly, but think about that for a second. You believe that a daughter of a 'feminist fanatic' deserves to be immediately forced into a life of prositution, looked upon as a slut and a whore by the society you describe and denied the right to be considered anything more than a sex toy good to be used and then thrown away for the sake of money for no reason other than who their parents where. Can you please explain what a girl in this situation could have possibly done to deserve that fate?

 

[NobleGreyHorse]

you are right about the last part. sane women don't want to be raped. they want to be dominated, but by gentle, sane men.

Okay, so when you say this, do you have a meaning for "dominated" that doesn't have to do with sex? Like, I usually let Mr. Horse do all the driving when we go places together, on the simple grounds that he's five years older than me and has been doing it five years longer. Is that a possible way in which a man might be a "dominant" partner out of bed?

 

[Lalala]

Okay, so when you say this, do you have a meaning for "dominated" that doesn't have to do with sex? Like, I usually let Mr. Horse do all the driving when we go places together, on the simple grounds that he's five years older than me and has been doing it five years longer. Is that a possible way in which a man might be a "dominant" partner out of bed?

I interpreted that as a woman doesn't get a say in...anything really. Like the man decides who drives the car, what they have for dinner, what colour to paint the walls, everything. The woman is only meant to smile and nod and say yes dear and do the dishes after cooking the dinner, that kinda stuff.
Basically I think @Holden wants the 40's.

 

[NobleGreyHorse]

I see what you mean, except in the '40s, women were all over the workforce because WWII. You mean the latter half, I trust, when men came home and muscled women back out of jobs they were doing with a high degree of excellence because they were the MEN, goddamnit?

 

[Lalala]

I see what you mean, except in the '40s, women were all over the workforce because WWII. You mean the latter half, I trust, when men came home and muscled women back out of jobs they were doing with a high degree of excellence because they were the MEN, goddamnit?

Spot on, the point where women had established they were capable of holding the same positions as men but were pushed aside the second the men wanted their dominance back, I think this is what Holden wants, for women to surrender their potential to allow men to be dominant in everything again rather than it being an equal share.

 

[Cuck Norris]

I interpreted that as a woman doesn't get a say in...anything really. Like the man decides who drives the car, what they have for dinner, what colour to paint the walls, everything. The woman is only meant to smile and nod and say yes dear and do the dishes after cooking the dinner, that kinda stuff.
Basically I think @Holden wants the 40's.

Naw, he thinks Saudi Arabia and Iran are basically the best places ever.

 

[Lalala]

Naw, he thinks Saudi Arabia and Iran are basically the best places ever.

Of course, the 'Virgin until marriage' is a classic example of this, the entire purpose of it is for a man to be able to stake a claim on a woman since once she loses her virginity in these societies she basically becomes the mans property as she has no other rights and no other man would want her.
Makes me wonder how Holden would feel knowing that some women grow their hymens back after a while and could pass as virgins easily.

 

[AP 297]

@Holden

What does the term rape actually mean to you?

What does the term dominate actually mean to you?

I think your definitions are different from ours...

 

[Cephalometrist]

(INCOMPLETE - APPRECIATED IF SOMEONE CAN POST THE FULL VERSION)

I have the first part, so here's the complete log now:

This is the backstory as to why Holden is mad at me.
So, I think I'm the crazy person and mental patient Holden is talking about, just to let you guys know. Maybe @Holden could confirm or deny this.

But I have to say: I just love the fact that you are willing to talk about the most horrible things about what your twisted worldview implies and when it comes to talking about things that would actually make you look likable, you suddenly feel the need to restrain yourself.

the way the crazy person is trying to do now.

How am I supposed to do that? Tell me please.
But since it is such a popular demand: I'm willing to swear not to use the picture of your dog in case you decide to post it here. So just give them what they want.