Inactive Nick Bate / Nickalaus B. Stoutzenberger (Thread 1)

[Coldgrip]

Also, I do believe he's mentally ill enough that he'd be sent to a locked down mental health facility.

There's plenty of mentally ill people in prison. It's not right, but it happens.

Though in this case I believe that, while he's obviously not right in the head, his actions are more due to him just being a sicko and knowing (or thinking he knew) just how far he could push his boundaries than mental illness.

 

[Space_Dandy]

We might see him in jail sometime near 2021.

 

[Coldgrip]

We might see him in jail sometime near 2021.

Assuming his teeth don't kill him first.

 

[Treblinkachu]

Wow, Nick's sister accused him of molesting her.

I guess it's a good thing for Nick that he's never confessed to doing just that. And it's good that he's never posted things on his public Twitter account saying that he would like to have sex with children. And it's good for him that he's never spent days defending pedophilia to people on 789chan. And it's good that he never leaked his own mental health review where he admits to looking up child porn and wanting to have sex with children. And it's good for him that he's never made songs with titles like "Doing Children in the Butt".

Oh wait, he's done all of that.

 

[MiloWuCollusion]

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Anyone worried he might get off easier for this?... Sure hope not.

Reading about this guy, and it sounds that his mom actually knows how fucked up his son is and is in denial. I would feel sorry if it was not for the fact that is her daughter the one that ends suffering. Like with others lolcows, their family is their biggest enablers, in this case with denial.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

He doesn't seem that worried, and someone let him around animals.

 

[Sonic Speed Monkey]

He doesn't seem that worried, and someone let him around animals.

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He shouldn't be allowed around anyone or anything that doesn't know to steer clear of him. In fact, Nick should just be stuck in a kind of solitary confinement. That would be okay with me.

 

[Frank Rizzo]

"waterin'" them?

He's aware cats aren't plants, right?

 

[Ti-99/4A]

He can't even properly care for his OWN cat, yet he volunteers to take care of other cats?

 

[TaterBot]

His aunt reads his twitters ( she got pissed when he said he resented having to watch her dogs for her.) But she's an enabler, Nick's primary enabler.
His mother is ignorant. She knows something happened bc she started restricting him being alone with Amber.

The incident itself happened when Amber was 8 or 9, several years ago. She's old enough now to start thinking for herself, and maybe talking to her friends. Nick may think he dodged this bullet...but the gun's still loaded.

 

[Protoman]

I'm normally against the death penalty, but I can't say that I'm not sorta alright with the idea of a child molester being opened up by a couple other inmates.

I hope there's enough evidence to prove this is legitimate in a court of law. It's hard to have any doubt whatsoever when she comes out and confirms it after he's admitted to it online, but I'm not entirely certain how admissible those chat records would actually be in a court of law. Hopefully the prosecution has a solid plan for all this.

All my support goes to Amber. She's an incredibly brave person for coming out with this, and I hope she turns out okay in spite of all the terrible things she's been through.

 

[WonkeyDong]

Well, holy shit.

i doubt any lawyer could defend him, even phoenix wright couldnt help him, its so obvious he did it that the prosecution could just say "he raped that child" and the verdict would given guilty within 3 minutes

 

[Gan]

"waterin'" them?

He's aware cats aren't plants, right?

I think that's just a weird regional thing. A lot of people around where I live will say "water the dog/cat" to mean give them water.

 

[Petronella]

This is kind of late, but pleading insanity in court can be tricky because it really has nothing to do with whether or not the person is mentally ill. Insanity in a legal sense means that the person couldn't distinguish right from wrong at the time the crime was committed, and/or that they believed committing said crime was the right thing to do. In this case, Nick is insisting he didn't do anything and trying to provide proof that there was no way he could have, which shows that he knows molestation is a wrong thing to do.

 

[AnOminous]

Can any of the e-lawyers on here tell us how possible it would be for Nick to plead insanity? He seems to be kind of an ambiguous case -- not actually delusional, but clearly separated from reality

Pedophilia is one thing where you don't want to get off on an "insanity defense." There is an increasing trend of civilly committing people convicted of sex crimes against children after their prison sentences expire even without it, and many such commitments are effectively permanent. The standard for civil commitment is also lower than the beyond a reasonable doubt that led to the original conviction.

In any event, someone "successfully" pleading insanity in a case like this may very well end up locked up longer, possibly much longer, than someone criminally convicted, since the argument, such as it is, goes that the person is mentally defective to the extent that re-offense is basically guaranteed, justifying indefinite commitment.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

I don't know about wherever Nick lives specifically but most US states use the M'Naghten rules which basically state that, to be found not guilty by reason of insanity, a defendant must have been so insane that they either didn't know what they were doing or they knew what they were doing but didn't know it was wrong.

Nick obviously knows who his sister is and what sex is, so he can't get away with it under the first clause. The second clause is a little more dubious but his chatlog with Anna shows that he thinks she'll judge him being a 'pedo' so he can't claim he doesn't know what he did is wrong.

So, legally, he's fucked. I wouldn't start breaking out the champagne yet, though, these kinds of complaints can take a long time to be investigated and an even longer time to be prosecuted.

 

[Konstantinos]

I was getting ready to be cynical and bitter again this year but now I have reason to think I won't need to be. Sick Nick is a horrible person and his heinous misdeeds are finally being brought before the unyielding eye of the law. If that's not indicative of the good in the world than I don't know what is!

 

[nad7155]

Sick Nick is a horrible person

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[Ho Mo for Women]

I think this is the only cow whose shenanigans I wouldn't mind not seeing more of.

Agreed. If and when Chris and Jace go to jail, I'll miss following their autistic antics. Nick's sperging can be pretty amusing at times, but at the end of the day, he's a genuinely vile human being who needs to be locked up.

 

[Anchuent Dictata]

Agreed. If and when Chris and Jace go to jail, I'll miss following their autistic antics. Nick's sperging can be pretty amusing at times, but at the end of the day, he's a genuinely vile human being who needs to be locked up.

For his antics, I genuinely enjoy observing the ongoing Sagas of christory, and despite his growing malignancy, I would actually be somewhat loath to see OPL incarcerated. He gets that much from me at least, for now.

This Nick character I've known about for considerably less time, and there is no amount of kindness that I would spare for his sake. There are lines crossed here that Chris at his most malevolent does not approach.