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Allanon said:
So here's my issue with it. Including Marchi allowed Marchi's lawyer to question Vic in depo. Ty didn't depo Marchi. He has to run up a bill not just sitting through the time Marchi's lawyer questioned Vic but in filing a response to her TCPA in the hope of her not getting it. If it's granted what good did suing Marchi do? They didn't get any discovery from her whatsoever, they didn't get to crosscheck her answers with Monica's in deposition, it served no purpose but to lose them money, Now, it would be unfortunate if that's what happens, but I don't see how Ty could look at that possible path and say "We need to sue Marchi", knowing they didn't have enough to keep her in the party when TCPA hit presuming her TCPA was at all competent (which was the assumption until Monica and Ron's insanity).
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In most sane lawsuits, the defendant would almost immediately file anti-SLAPP, before the majority of discovery and definitely before depositions. Sam Johnson getting to grill Vic prior to the TCPA filings was extremely unusual. And yeah, it helped Marchi, since Vic admitted to touching her hair, even if Vic immediately denied the abusive elements of the incident.

In the end though, I'm sure Ty went into the lawsuit assuming he wouldn't be able to have Top-CEC verbally murder grill Marchi and had at least a decent case already to get through TCPA.
 
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Yuusha-sama said:
I don't post often my opinions because my English isn't the best, but I must ask:
Why do so many people believe that Monica and Jamie won't be hired by the industry anymore?
There must be a reason Funimation didn't say anything then Monica and co. cited Funi's tweet as proof of Vic's alleged misconduct.
I'm also 99,99% sure they didn't produce the full discovery to cover for people like Sabat under the promise to work as a writer or something similar with a pseudonym for them, and I would bet that Monica and co. will perjury themselves to cover for them.
They might not get spotlight as VA anymore, but they will be sent to events or cons because of people like Sabat and get work.
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Post your opinions more. I don't think anybody has problems understanding your English and if some slight things are off they will get the gist of your message.

I think it depends on how badly they have fucked Funimation. If Funi is out of the lawsuit at TCPA and isn't man handled by Sony afterwards then they'll get bit parts at best and never again be best girl. If Funimation stays in then i see them never getting any VA work from the company again. Their flunkies might be able to get them some work under pseudonyms, but as others have said their liability costs are already high and proper management (at companies like Sony and WB) will be starting to have a good look at these studios. They will see how these studios are run as highschool mean girl cliques and start bringing down the hammer. Not only are these studios ripe for another Vic situation, they might get the government interested and the IRS could easily fuck them way harder than any 100 Vic's.

There are enough soyboys and wahmen to keep getting them convention invites, but i also think that their invitations and lines are already diminished due to the events.
 
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She does not, however, have a First Amendment right to say that Vic committed a criminal act where he did no such thing, which she did in saying that she found that Vic committed "simple battery", which is her accusing Vic of "simple battery".
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I think it's worth arguing that Jamie's claim is contested. She claims he jerked her head in close so that she couldn't move, whispered something sexual in her ear, and she can't remember exactly how she got away but that it probably involved screaming profanity at him. Vic claims he ran his fingers through her hair and said it was lovely and nothing else happened. At very best she could argue her interpretation of events is that he briefly grabbed her hair in a violent manner, but there's no way to try to say those two scenarios are a matter of perception. If Vic's version of the story is correct, Jamie could only be lying about it, not 'experiencing it differently'.
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I'm just providing what her argument is, since people seem to be confusing a lot of other stuff, like other people's affidavits and depositions, with what the judge will actually be ruling on. I don't buy it at all, but it's important to know what you're actually arguing with, because people keep going with, "her TCPA will fail because (reason that's not even part of her TCPA)".

I think their 2 versions of events are too different to be matters of interpretation, and instead are matters of fact; however, there's at least a possibility that the judge might feel otherwise. I think it's important to keep in check the possibility that, even if you feel strongly that one decision is the right one, that doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna work out that way.

All of this is also without getting into the public figure stuff, which I think has been discussed to death so I left it out.
 
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Jub-Jub said:
Post your opinions more. I don't think anybody has problems understanding your English and if some slight things are off they will get the gist of your message.

I think it depends on how badly they have fucked Funimation. If Funi is out of the lawsuit at TCPA and isn't man handled by Sony afterwards then they'll get bit parts at best and never again be best girl. If Funimation stays in then i see them never getting any VA work from the company again. Their flunkies might be able to get them some work under pseudonyms, but as others have said their liability costs are already high and proper management (at companies like Sony and WB) will be starting to have a good look at these studios. They will see how these studios are run as highschool mean girl cliques and start bringing down the hammer. Not only are these studios ripe for another Vic situation, they might get the government interested and the IRS could easily fuck them way harder than any 100 Vic's.

There are enough soyboys and wahmen to keep getting them convention invites, but i also think that their invitations and lines are already diminished due to the events.
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Jub-Jub said:
Post your opinions more. I don't think anybody has problems understanding your English and if some slight things are off they will get the gist of your message.

I think it depends on how badly they have fucked Funimation. If Funi is out of the lawsuit at TCPA and isn't man handled by Sony afterwards then they'll get bit parts at best and never again be best girl. If Funimation stays in then i see them never getting any VA work from the company again. Their flunkies might be able to get them some work under pseudonyms, but as others have said their liability costs are already high and proper management (at companies like Sony and WB) will be starting to have a good look at these studios. They will see how these studios are run as highschool mean girl cliques and start bringing down the hammer. Not only are these studios ripe for another Vic situation, they might get the government interested and the IRS could easily fuck them way harder than any 100 Vic's.

There are enough soyboys and wahmen to keep getting them convention invites, but i also think that their invitations and lines are already diminished due to the events.
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They are safe until the lawsuit is over. To do anything to them when the lawsuit is ongoing would be like admitting guilt. They will get the Asterios Kokinos treatment after the lawsuit no matter if fuimation wins or losses. You don't keep around employees who get you sued. You get rid of them.
 
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feral cat #6385 said:
They are safe until the lawsuit is over. To do anything to them when the lawsuit is ongoing would be like admitting guilt. They will get the Asterios Kokinos treatment after the lawsuit no matter if fuimation wins or losses. You don't keep around employees who get you sued. You get rid of them.
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You just don't want it to be an admission of liability while you're still being sued. Also Cuckinos still might have weaseled out if he hadn't stupidly continued talking about it in violation of a specific rule.
 
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feral cat #6385 said:
They are safe until the lawsuit is over. To do anything to them when the lawsuit is ongoing would be like admitting guilt. They will get the Asterios Kokinos treatment after the lawsuit no matter if fuimation wins or losses. You don't keep around employees who get you sued. You get rid of them.
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They’ll get whatever the VA equivalent of a Japanese boredom room is.
 
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It was posted a few pages back, but it's a great meme. Some good burns on Nick, but even worse ones on Douchette.
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Oh, sorry I didn't realize that, I will take my late and gay ratings with honor.
The guy who posted this is also the guy who made Nick's outro if someone haven't seen the song here you go:
 
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AnOminous said:
hiring a competent lawyer who isn't a complete shithead.
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Been meanin' to make this post for awhile now...guess her lawyer (Sam Johnson is it?) just hasn't been publically exceptional enough...

But yeah, I see people praising him for not being as exceptional as Lemonparty, his defendants, and their whole legal team, but I can't forget his line of questioning in the depo. Seems to me like while Lemonparty is a steamroller full of exceptionalism, Marchi's lawyer is a snake in the grass biding its exceptional time.

"Is this a statement of fact about you?" So disingenuous. Nick alluded to this being a dirty tactic to catch Vic in some "gotcha" moments since "statement of fact" is a legal term that most people are not even famiar with. Of course, Vic handled that line of questioning like a fuckin' BOSS. But even if Vic would have "got" himself while answering, would it even have mattered to the court since he OBVIOUSLY didn't know what he was even answering exactly?

Idk, I'm a wee bit intoxicated, just something that I observed that I've been meaning to get off my chest.
 
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I just hope no one happened to be passing by down below at the time. Kind of reminds me of the story Chunk told to the Fratellis in The Goonies.
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I've missed these. It's the unsung hero like Hero Hei.

Hotfartz :) said:
Been meanin' to make this post for awhile now...guess her lawyer (Sam Johnson is it?) just hasn't been publically exceptional enough...

But yeah, I see people praising him for not being as exceptional as Lemonparty, his defendants, and their whole legal team, but I can't forget his line of questioning in the depo. Seems to me like while Lemonparty is a steamroller full of exceptionalism, Marchi's lawyer is a snake in the grass biding its exceptional time.

"Is this a statement of fact about you?" So disingenuous. Nick alluded to this being a dirty tactic to catch Vic in some "gotcha" moments since "statement of fact" is a legal term that most people are not even famiar with. Of course, Vic handled that line of questioning like a fuckin' BOSS. But even if Vic would have "got" himself while answering, would it even have mattered to the court since he OBVIOUSLY didn't know what he was even answering exactly?

Idk, I'm a wee bit intoxicated, just something that I observed that I've been meaning to get off my chest.
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I'm pretty sure the competent ones are Funimation's lawyers, and Casey if you want to take the line of thinking that he's trying to do his best but his clients are putting their feet down with every moronic decision they make.
 
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"Is this a statement of fact about you?" So disingenuous. Nick alluded to this being a dirty tactic to catch Vic in some "gotcha" moments since "statement of fact" is a legal term that most people are not even famiar with. Of course, Vic handled that line of questioning like a fuckin' BOSS. But even if Vic would have "got" himself while answering, would it even have mattered to the court since he OBVIOUSLY didn't know what he was even answering exactly?
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That's his job though. You want to get the other side to say things that damage their case. It's a lot easier if they're actually liars, but anyone who does defense is going to have to try to discredit a witness who is telling the truth at some point. While that's more often the case in a criminal defense, it's going to be the case any time you have a sympathetic victim or plaintiff who is actually telling the truth.
 
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AnOminous said:
That's his job though. You want to get the other side to say things that damage their case. It's a lot easier if they're actually liars, but anyone who does defense is going to have to try to discredit a witness who is telling the truth at some point. While that's more often the case in a criminal defense, it's going to be the case any time you have a sympathetic victim or plaintiff who is actually telling the truth.
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But does exceptional line of questioning like that actually sway judges and juries? God if people are that impressionable, then God please wipe us all out now.
 
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Emmett. dude. Man. Bro. Let me keep it real with you, really real.
There's sites on the web....kotaku, gawker (rest in piss), buzzfeed, io9.....they are the internet equivalent of reading bathroom graffiti. Nobody takes those sites seriously until the sites break the law.

Writing for one of them isn't something you want to brag about.
 
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SpiralStars said:
Marchi brings the clearest example of malice to the case. Her public statements like "I want his balls...".

Also proof of civil conspiracy may not exist between Funi and the rest but between Moronica and Marchi and the others. Her resistence to being served makes her look guilty as well.
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If they were verified, there are also the DMs where Jamie Marchi was hoping a minor would step forward, inside the statute of limitations.
Qualifying this with my fuzzy memory on what they said exactly - there could be a case where that's written proof of another instance of defamation per se (saying/implying it happened without evidence) and could also show a reckless disregard for the truth (if she was hearing this through the grapevine).

Not to mention to disgusting way she put it ... Ty has also indicated that he's got sources - Nick's had emails between Monica and others leaked to him (maybe all from BHBH, but I sometimes wonder). A while back, Nick said FUNi was leaking like a sieve, so my initial TCPA predictions are that Marchi has the best chance of dismissal/partial dismissal (TI w/contracts, seems to be the missing element in her case). That said, I'm waiting for Ty's final pleadings in this motion before I lock any predictions in.

Well, except we all know MoRon's is going to be trashed. I'm just hoping some kind of sanctions ( :optimistic: ) get dished out, in their case.
 
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Re: High Guardian Spice. Supposedly a lot of the staff posted farewell posts on their twitter accounts back in May. When I did a search, the only one I saw still talking about the show being a thing was the amorphous genderless blob that wrote the original Tumblr webcomic, and a lot of that was it replying to farewell tweets.

Basically, they filtered a bunch of money to a bunch of Dangerhairs and got nothing out of it other than woke points and the warm feeling of having paid the danegeld this year, so they don't have to deal with being called bad names by idiots on twitter.

As an aside, when I searched for HGS just now on Twitter I was reminded that Thundercats Roar was supposed to be a thing, too. And it's vanished off the internet completely, too.

... That Obama era "anti" propaganda bill that was funding most of the online woke journalists like Buzzfeed News and HuffPo, it ran out earlier this year. Was it also funding the Woke Cartoons industry, by any chance?
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King Negro did untold damage to this nation, and we aren't even seeing the last of his negative effects... Why do you think the SJW-era exists so badly as it does now? Who was the "liberal" globalist in charge for a near decade setting up all these faggoty bills behind the scenes? - with the soul-purpose of propagandizing and spreading leftist/globohomo agendas. Look to WOKE Netfux right now, as they have already given the Obongo's an exclusive streaming deal to create propaganda well into the future. You can blame SJWs being spawned, then enabled, by him and his administration.

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Marchi brings the clearest example of malice to the case. Her public statements like "I want his balls...".

Also proof of civil conspiracy may not exist between Funi and the rest but between Moronica and Marchi and the others. Her resistance to being served makes her look guilty as well.
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Correct me if I'm wrong... but I thought the kicker to this whole case was that if ONE person can be proven to have participated in TI and/or CC, then EVERYONE goes down for it. Marchi was one of the most outwardly malicious in text form. When she goes down, as she will, doesn't that seal everyone else's fate?
 
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