Megathread TERFs / Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists / Gender Critical Feminists - ft. r/GenderCritical & related reddits, Mancheeze, Cathy Brennan, GCDad, RadFHarva, Jamie Shupe, etc; "Gender Critical Feminism is Homophobic" - Cathy Brennan, 2019.

magdalen berns is in palliative care for her brain cancer.
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I just read the tweets, she has literally lost her eyesight from the brain cancer. Cathy Brennan (a lesbian lawyer TERF I have learned a lot from) is gonna be so sad, she considered Magdalen the one young lesbian activist she was hoping would follow her in her footsteps. Those of you TERFs here who know Cathy put your issues aside and go be with her in this time of grief.
 
Can I just add: Magdalen is not in a position to defend herself from attacks and probably never will be again.

You can attack Fat Tony, "Wax my balls", Dr Harrassment, and whomever else. Heck, you can even attack the TERFs if you so choose. They can all respond and thus defend themselves. Magdalen can't, so you should leave her alone.

We can also attack Magdalen. The taboo against speaking ill of the dead has never had much traction here, and if any of us has beef or funny dunks to drop on Magdalen we're not going to let a little thing like cultural mores get in the way of it. We might not think highly of the ghoulish gravedancing that is so obviously born from culture-war asshurt, but we're not the type to be shamed into silence just because somebody we don't like died. And this is coming from somebody who liked Magdalen and has no intention of insulting or making fun of her, alive or dead.

I understand that you're making an appeal to our sense of decency, but this is a community that has collectively rejected decency in favour of truth. If people here have truths they want to say that are uncharitable towards Magdalen, they're going to do so, and we're going to put aside any emotions we might have and nod approvingly at them for it. This is who we are, and trying to stop us ; no matter how polite and gentle you've been about it, is tilting at a windmill with landmines taped all over it.
 
It isn't just because she's ill that I'm defending her. Magdalen is a good person who was working hard to defend the rights of lesbians. She has never hurt anyone. I think it's important to acknowledge that Magdalen really does not deserve any shit. She can't stick up for herself right now, so I'm going to stick up for her.

Some of the people slated on here, such as Yaniv, deserve everything they get. Yaniv is sexist, racist, homophobic, etc. He is trying to ruin the lives of many working-class women. Fuck him.
 
It isn't just because she's ill that I'm defending her. Magdalen is a good person who was working hard to defend the rights of lesbians. She has never hurt anyone. I think it's important to acknowledge that Magdalen really does not deserve any shit. She can't stick up for herself right now, so I'm going to stick up for her.

Some of the people slated on here, such as Yaniv, deserve everything they get. Yaniv is sexist, racist, homophobic, etc. He is trying to ruin the lives of many working-class women. Fuck him.

If 'deserve' mattered, Magdalen Berns wouldn't be dying of brain cancer right now. Deserve doesn't matter. If people here have critical or meanspirited things to say about her, they will, and decency be damned. Deserve be damned. That's the kind of place this is. That's the kind of place we want. Mainstream society is afraid to talk about Yaniv because too many people feel it's indecent to gawk at human trainwrecks, or to risk being seen as transphobic. Decency is the muzzle that had been letting him operate unimpeded. Decency is the muzzle keeps hundreds of ridiculous, dangerous, predatory people from being discussed anywhere but here.

The day we let decency muzzle us is the day there's no longer any point to this website. I understand that Berns' imminent passing is probably very emotional for you, and I truly do sympathise with that. Nobody is going to try and stop you from celebrating her life or defending her works. Nobody here is going to flood her memorials with hate or aggravate the grieving of her family and supporters, or be maliciously cruel just for the sake of it. We're not monsters.

But we will not be muzzled, and you shouldn't be asking it of us.
 
It isn't just because she's ill that I'm defending her. Magdalen is a good person who was working hard to defend the rights of lesbians. She has never hurt anyone. I think it's important to acknowledge that Magdalen really does not deserve any shit. She can't stick up for herself right now, so I'm going to stick up for her.

Some of the people slated on here, such as Yaniv, deserve everything they get. Yaniv is sexist, racist, homophobic, etc. He is trying to ruin the lives of many working-class women. Fuck him.
I've said this once before in this thread (this thread tends to attract this kind of reasoning because of the subject), but I feel it's good to restate it once more: This is a site to have a laugh at people. It's not about justice, who is right or wrong, who is a piece of shit, who we should lynch and who deserves to be reprimanded/tortured/shot, or anything of that sort. It's about laughing at people, full stop. Some perfectly morally good people, or otherwise innocent people, have been the subject of mockery on this site and the fact that they did nothing wrong, or had their heart in the right place, did not prevent anyone from laughing at them. It's perfectly understandable that people might find it easier to laugh and mock a complete sack of shit like Yaniv because you skip the concept of having to wonder if laughing at someone is morally good or bad, and there's a reason why people like him attract a lot of traffic. But it's very important to remind yourself that ideology (or in this very precise case, nefarious disease and ever-approaching death) is not a barrier that forbids us to laugh at someone.

In other words, it's not because that insane troons dressed like clowns trying to abuse Canadian law exist that we can't laugh at TERFs or Radfems, even if one of them happens to be dying of brain cancer. This is what makes KF unique, for better and for worse. At best it creates an environment where no matter the gravity of the subject at hand, you can poke fun at it, but at worst it creates an environment where things you feel strongly about will eventually be mocked, one day or another.

You cannot stop people from having fun at the expense of someone, so the only option here is to just disengage and realize that this is where KF goes too far for you. And that's okay. Most people here will have that thread that makes fun of someone or something that is infinitely precious to them, and they'll need to avoid that thread like the plague. But asking for censorship because she used to do something you considered good? Nah. This is not what KF is about.
 
I'm not trying to shut down the discussion. I believe in free speech.

I just want people to know that Magdalen cannot respond to any criticism herself. I personally wouldn't criticize someone who wasn't able to respond.

Since Magdalen cannot defend herself, I want to defend her. I will be here on this thread defending her. She is a good woman.
She's not going to put out for you, you know. Although I don't blame you for angling for the blind if this is what you have to do to get some action.
 
Since Magdalen cannot defend herself, I want to defend her. I will be here on this thread defending her. She is a good woman.

You're announcing a slapfight when nobody had any inclination to start slapping. You're painting a gigantic neon target on yourself and letting everybody know what's going to emotionally affect you and inviting them to try. You're telling an entire forum of autistic sociopaths with oppositional defiance disorder "don't" when they hadn't even thought about "doing". I'm trying to be as gentle as possible here but you are trying to put out a fire that doesn't even exist yet with high-octane gasoline and begging for a match.
 
OK I take back what I said about radfems being more sane. Everybody seems to be telling this female she's doing the right thing by not having sex even though she seems to want to. a few people give reasonable advice and are downvoted.
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u/WotNoKetchup is a fucking goldmine of mentally deranged man hating, yet she's regularly upvoted in r/GC. Her and u/Yishengqua666 are full blown reddit lolcow TERFs.
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What the hell? I honestly can't tell whether or not this is a batshit crazy woman or a guy acting out a really elaborate femdom fantasy :story:
 
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I never thought I'd read something that was more stupid than "We Wuz Kangz", fully automated gay luxury Anarcho-Communism, and "Gender is an entirely social construct" combined and then exponentially multiplied in its stupidity and delusional insanity...yet here we are

Forget Clown World, this is like a real-life version of CarnEvil and we're all jacked up on PCP and meth while it's happening
 
We can also attack Magdalen. The taboo against speaking ill of the dead has never had much traction here, and if any of us has beef or funny dunks to drop on Magdalen we're not going to let a little thing like cultural mores get in the way of it.

The bitch isn't dead yet, though, is she? She's still alive, even though her brain is so totally eaten by cancer that it basically doesn't exist any more.

this actually isn't the place to discuss Magdalen Berns. she's not a cow, she's not a cow's victim or orbiter. this isn't the place to mourn her, there are plenty of places for that. frankly, she deserves better than this kind of back and forth.

I'm not sure what she is but I'd probably bang her.
 
this actually isn't the place to discuss Magdalen Berns. she's not a cow, she's not a cow's victim or orbiter. this isn't the place to mourn her, there are plenty of places for that. frankly, she deserves better than this kind of back and forth.

You're correct. r/GC are the orbiters and the cows. And also the angry a-logs who hated her too.
Basically, through little fault of her own, she became another third thing: an autism magnet.

And nobody deserves to be one of those, except maybe DSP.
 
I never thought I'd read something that was more stupid than "We Wuz Kangz", fully automated gay luxury Anarcho-Communism, and "Gender is an entirely social construct" combined and then exponentially multiplied in its stupidity and delusional insanity...yet here we are

Forget Clown World, this is like a real-life version of CarnEvil and we're all jacked up on PCP and meth while it's happening
The dark carnival awaits for us all
 
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