Megathread TERFs / Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists / Gender Critical Feminists - ft. r/GenderCritical & related reddits, Mancheeze, Cathy Brennan, GCDad, RadFHarva, Jamie Shupe, etc; "Gender Critical Feminism is Homophobic" - Cathy Brennan, 2019.

[Attackhelicopter89]

What amazes me about their porn obsession is how they're able jump through hoops to make pornography or "porn-sickness" the root cause of so many widely different problems. Doesn't matter the topic, eventually they will link it back to society (men's) porn consumption somehow.

On r/GC you can also see them simultaneously upvote completely contradictory ideas along as porn use is ultimately to blame
e.g. a thread about sex a comment; "porn usage has made modern men take ages and ages to cum during regular sex, and that harms women"
upvoted right next to "men cum really quickly and can't last long in bed, that's directly due to their use of porn"
Both completely conflicting but as long as it blames men and porn then they will upvote regardless, (and the mods delete any dissenting opinions).

They also argue that the porn actresses do not consent to be in pornography and even say it's rape on tape or rape tapes. By this logic I wonder what they would think of hentai since there's no real sex.

 

[Comrade Autogynephilia]

By this logic I wonder what they would think of hentai since there's no real sex.

They don't allow amateur porn either. It's pretty much any expression of male sexuality that disgusts them, sometimes the mask slips and you see them talking about gay men and gay male lifestyle and you could easily be reading the screed of fundamentalist religious homophobes.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

What amazes me about their porn obsession is how they're able jump through hoops to make pornography or "porn-sickness" the root cause of so many widely different problems. Doesn't matter the topic, eventually they will link it back to society (men's) porn consumption somehow.

I wonder how they explain the fact crime has existed since the dawn of time and well before porn was readily available.

 

[mdrop22]

So I found a GC "adjacent" subreddit specifically about porn called r/loveafterporn. This is where GC women (and some normie women it appears) gather because they think their relationships are going too smoothly, and of course they need something to cause issues and make things interesting again. To do this, they demonize normal male behavior like, jerking off once in a while and thinking random e-thots are attractive. They call men who jerk it to non-nude photos of e-thots "porn addicts", completely disregarding the actual devastation that a true porn addiction can cause. I actually haven't read an account from these women that sounds like true addictions. Most of the dudes seem completely normal, and are being shamed by insane harpies into thinking they are disgusting, lying, and addicted.




Here we see a psychotic woman wishing she could attach cameras to her SO while she is away. This is a control fantasy. I honestly think these women would be better off alone. They justify their bullshit by saying things like "We suffer from ~hypervigilance~ and ~anxiety~." Well that sounds like a you problem. That sounds like maybe you should be in therapy because you think the fact that your husband touches his dick once in a while is a psychiatric issue that needs treatment.



Here, one of them is told by a mental health professional that they are insane. In the comments, OP is told it's their own fault for not going to a therapist that already agrees with them. Yes, how silly to try to get an opinion from someone outside the circle, don't you know everyone else is "porn sick"? Don't listen to them, only to us. Only usss...



This is your typical post on r/loveafterporn. Her husband has an erection BECAUSE HE IS ATTRACTED TO HER but because he was also tangentially seeing women on screen wearing sexy outfits, well that's not enough. It's like these women are completely Borderline or Narcs or something. Not everything revolves around the woman in the relationship. He literally says in the story he wants to bone her and that she does this all the time, turning him down and making him feel bad. There's only so many times you can do that sort of thing to a non-beta male before they snap. She literally goes on to say that she went back to the sex toy website afterward and cried because of all "the beautiful women" oh boo hoo I'll never be a porn star. What? Why would you cry and wish you were the exploited women on the website when your husband wants to buy you some lingerie for your own personal sexy time? Get help ladies.



I had to add this in because the comments on that last post are GOLD. "He is nothing more than a 12 year old lying to his mommy", "take away privileges", "you've been betrayed so get back at him". Is this...is this a kink? I'm serious. This sounds like a fucking kink. I bet they'd like it if their man wore a chastity belt too.


Radfems wonder why no one listens to them. This is why. They're basically Puritanical Christians, but instead of worshipping Jesus, they worship old GC writers. Instead of mass, they congregate in support groups to discuss non-issues like their husbands' apparent thought crimes. Instead of converting people, they shame you until you feel like you have to agree with them because theyve made you feel guilty over nothing.

I just hope these women get help. Living like this must be miserable.

 

[PBJ Sucks]

They also argue that the porn actresses do not consent to be in pornography and even say it's rape on tape or rape tapes. By this logic I wonder what they would think of hentai since there's no real sex.

This is another point where I can concede they are probably right, in some cases. Consent is a tricky thing and can be forced. But you just can't tell by watching a vid.

I suspect that at the end of the day they really do think no woman would agree to male penetration without being pressured by the man, thus rape. Which of course is bull, women also have sexuality, but while they don't necessarily deny this they seem to be a majority of lesbians. They don't understand attraction to men and so it either is a lie, conditioning by men, or a just a problem to be overcome.

And of course they mistake 'women shouldn't have to do things they don't want to' with 'women shouldn't do things they don't want to'. Do they understand how life and healthy relationships work?

Edit to respond to above comment: My time there legit made me question if I was crazy for not being bothered by male behavior as a whole. I'm not stupid, I know there's terrible pitfalls mostly attached to them being men. I realized that they just can't see beyond that and realize they're still just people.

 

[Comrade Autogynephilia]

Saw this a while back, 'ihatelifeandmyself20' says her boyfriend is 'pornsick' because he looks at girls on Instagram.

r/GenderCritical - My Boyfriend is pornsick and I don’t know what to do

62 votes and 103 comments so far on Reddit

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Of course the unanimous verdict of r/GC is 'dump this misogynist'.

 

[AnOminous]

I've seen a number of people who've been generally unfamiliar with radfems until recently comment on how bizarrely conservative they are for feminists. I think that mostly comes down to the movement being a product of the 1960s and staunchly refusing to change over the years.

People don't grasp that at its core, "radical" isn't just a synonym for "extreme," it's a lot more equivalent to "fundamentalist," with the conservatism that entails, not in a right/left sense of "conservatism," but simply adherence to a core set of principles and unwillingness to change them to bend to the whims of the moment.

 

[FierceBrosnan]

Saw this a while back, 'ihatelifeandmyself20' says her boyfriend is 'pornsick' because he looks at girls on Instagram.

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r/GenderCritical - My Boyfriend is pornsick and I don’t know what to do

62 votes and 103 comments so far on Reddit

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Of course the unanimous verdict of r/GC is 'dump this misogynist'.

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Y'know if your boyfriend needs porn after an hour of banging to finally blow a load the problem might not be entirely because of a porn addiction. Maybe stop laying there like a cold dead fish and actually try to enjoy yourself? Nothing kills a boner faster than some bitter broad just waiting for it to hurry up and be over so she can whine about Insta THOTs on Reddit later.

 

[Attackhelicopter89]

This is another point where I can concede they are probably right, in some cases. Consent is a tricky thing and can be forced. But you just can't tell by watching a vid.

I suspect that at the end of the day they really do think no woman would agree to male penetration without being pressured by the man, thus rape. Which of course is bull, women also have sexuality, but while they don't necessarily deny this they seem to be a majority of lesbians. They don't understand attraction to men and so it either is a lie, conditioning by men, or a just a problem to be overcome.

And of course they mistake 'women shouldn't have to do things they don't want to' with 'women shouldn't do things they don't want to'. Do they understand how life and healthy relationships work?

Edit to respond to above comment: My time there legit made me question if I was crazy for not being bothered by male behavior as a whole. I'm not stupid, I know there's terrible pitfalls mostly attached to them being men. I realized that they just can't see beyond that and realize they're still just people.

Also isn't having a constant victim mentality hinder one's empowerment. I know from personal experience that constantly feeling sorry for myself gets me no where.

 

[raritycat]

Y'know if your boyfriend needs porn after an hour of banging to finally blow a load the problem might not be entirely because of a porn addiction. Maybe stop laying there like a cold dead fish and actually try to enjoy yourself? Nothing kills a boner faster than some bitter broad just waiting for it to hurry up and be over so she can whine about Insta THOTs on Reddit later.

I've learned to tune out most women who complain about "pornsick/porn addicted" boyfriends. Unless she also casually tells me about her exploits in beaning herself off, it's safe to assume she's shit in bed. I've only met one genuine porn addict, and he was a gay dude with BPD who beat his meat constantly to the point of it chaffing.

Armchair diagnosing porn addiction in their boyfriends/husbands seems like the go-to for most women because it doesn't involve any self-reflection. Actual sex forces you to deal with another human being with all your senses. If someone smells bad, it kills the mood. If someone tastes bad (rank breath, dirty body/genitals), it kills the mood. If someone's body is unsightly to look at (sight), they have a shrill/annoying voice (sound), or if their technique is poor (touch), it kills the mood. These same women would bring up their boyfriends bringing these issues into the bedroom, but refuse to accept the reality that they may be doing the same.

At the same time, if you label a dude as a porn addict, you're setting up a self-fulfilling prophecy in the bedroom. Now he has to prove himself by getting off to sex at your standard or else he proves your hypothesis right. That pressure leads to further performance anxiety leading to an endless loop of jerking off to porn rather than interacting with the wife/girlfriend.

 

[FierceBrosnan]

I've learned to tune out most women who complain about "pornsick/porn addicted" boyfriends. Unless she also casually tells me about her exploits in beaning herself off, it's safe to assume she's shit in bed. I've only met one genuine porn addict, and he was a gay dude with BPD who beat his meat constantly to the point of it chaffing.

Armchair diagnosing porn addiction in their boyfriends/husbands seems like the go-to for most women because it doesn't involve any self-reflection. Actual sex forces you to deal with another human being with all your senses. If someone smells bad, it kills the mood. If someone tastes bad (rank breath, dirty body/genitals), it kills the mood. If someone's body is unsightly to look at (sight), they have a shrill/annoying voice (sound), or if their technique is poor (touch), it kills the mood. These same women would bring up their boyfriends bringing these issues into the bedroom, but refuse to accept the reality that they may be doing the same.

At the same time, if you label a dude as a porn addict, you're setting up a self-fulfilling prophecy in the bedroom. Now he has to prove himself by getting off to sex at your standard or else he proves your hypothesis right. That pressure leads to further performance anxiety leading to an endless loop of jerking off to porn rather than interacting with the wife/girlfriend.

Self-reflection requires effort and effort is a tool of the patriarchy..or some such bullshit probably. I'm gathering the Reddit poster in this scenario is a teenager from the "we're young" statement so inexperience may play a tiny part in this. Still relationships require that both parties at least try a little. Like maybe the dude would be less interested in softcore thottery is she didn't give a handy like she was churning the world's most boring butter.

 

[raritycat]

Self-reflection requires effort and effort is a tool of the patriarchy..or some such bullshit probably. I'm gathering the Reddit poster in this scenario is a teenager from the "we're young" statement so inexperience may play a tiny part in this. Still relationships require that both parties at least try a little. Like maybe the dude would be less interested in softcore thottery is she didn't give a handy like she was churning the world's most boring butter.

I'm guessing she's young, too, because in another post she says she doesn't want to leave him because they've only been together 3 months. 3 months barely qualifies as a relationship.

 

[FierceBrosnan]

I'm guessing she's young, too, because in another post she says she doesn't want to leave him because they've only been together 3 months. 3 months barely qualifies as a relationship.

3 months in and seeking relationship advice from r/gendercritical Like it was already bad enough but good lord.

 

[Orange//Net]

3 months in and seeking relationship advice from r/gendercritical Like it was already bad enough but good lord.

She seems like the type of girl that gets paranoid every time "her man" looks in the general direction of any other woman, even his own mother.

 

[Feline Darkmage]

TERFs discuss using vigilante justice against rapists in South Africa. Unsurprisingly, most of them are happy to take the Targaryen approach and burn them all, even when some of the accused men were later proven innocent.
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They completely gloss over the part where vigilante justice often kills the wrong person. I guess that's because the guy probably deserves it for something else so it's all good.

Has it occurred to them that most women are attracted to men because biology, and it has nothing to do with choices? And furthermore it's kind of a necessity.

The way they dehumanize half our population is not attractive. Or, like, most of it actually, because any rational woman who gets confused when you tell them that any peaceful interaction with a man only happened because she just bowed down to him. Handmaiden victim/traitor!

This reminds me of a certain book, you may have heard of it. It's To Kill a Mockingbird, a black guy gets falsely accused of rape and a lawyer has to defend him.

They sound a bit like the racist hicks in that book who wanted to lynch the poor dude.

Yes, as we all know, there was absolutely zero backlash against BLM, and black people definitely aren't stereotyped all the time. Only women.

They've clearly never read or watched the fox news coverage of BLM.
Or they have and are lying because biowombical moon goddesses are the only truly oppressed group in this world.

also damn look at the crossover posting between GC users and KiA, mensrights, and r/jordanpeterson,

At least gc'ers love the nation of israel like we do here on the farms.

 

[Koresh]

This is another point where I can concede they are probably right, in some cases. Consent is a tricky thing and can be forced. But you just can't tell by watching a vid.

I suspect that at the end of the day they really do think no woman would agree to male penetration without being pressured by the man, thus rape. Which of course is bull, women also have sexuality, but while they don't necessarily deny this they seem to be a majority of lesbians. They don't understand attraction to men and so it either is a lie, conditioning by men, or a just a problem to be overcome.

And of course they mistake 'women shouldn't have to do things they don't want to' with 'women shouldn't do things they don't want to'. Do they understand how life and healthy relationships work?

Edit to respond to above comment: My time there legit made me question if I was crazy for not being bothered by male behavior as a whole. I'm not stupid, I know there's terrible pitfalls mostly attached to them being men. I realized that they just can't see beyond that and realize they're still just people.

How do you mean "They are probably right?"

If you're talking some vid where it's not professional and just two people banging with no context then maybe? One may not consent to the camera being there, but outright rape? The amount of actual rape videos out there that people are dumb enough to upload, well I haven't heard of any and it's a tiny drop in a huge ocean of internet porn.

But a professional video made by an actual company requires contracts and testing and as much work as any short film. Anyone who says some Brazzers broad is being raped when she goes back to work for the company and comes back for shoots is exceptional. It's a job as any other. Yes, there's a lot of damaged porn stars, but there's a lot of damaged people in any profession and something about the implication that high-functioning people who may have trauma or mental issues (like most of the population) shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions because a group of harpies and Christians are against what they choose just rubs me the wrong way. If Alyssa with HPD and was raped by her daddy is high-functioning enough to work at Tesco or Google, she has every right to choose to work in porn. That is not rape. People need to stop diluting rape to the point it is meaningless. Rape is a specific crime that deeply alters individuals and wrecks lives. Starring in Big Booty Bitches 16 is not that.

 

[PBJ Sucks]

How do you mean "They are probably right?"

If you're talking some vid where it's not professional and just two people banging with no context then maybe? One may not consent to the camera being there, but outright rape? The amount of actual rape videos out there that people are dumb enough to upload, well I haven't heard of any and it's a tiny drop in a huge ocean of internet porn.

But a professional video made by an actual company requires contracts and testing and as much work as any short film. Anyone who says some Brazzers broad is being raped when she goes back to work for the company and comes back for shoots is exceptional. It's a job as any other. Yes, there's a lot of damaged porn stars, but there's a lot of damaged people in any profession and something about the implication that high-functioning people who may have trauma or mental issues (like most of the population) shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions because a group of harpies and Christians are against what they choose just rubs me the wrong way. If Alyssa with HPD and was raped by her daddy is high-functioning enough to work at Tesco or Google, she has every right to choose to work in porn. That is not rape. People need to stop diluting rape to the point it is meaningless. Rape is a specific crime that deeply alters individuals and wrecks lives. Starring in Big Booty Bitches 16 is not that.

I don't mean they don't know what's going on, just the part where consent isn't always pure. I wouldn't call this rape obviously. I roll my eyes very much at GC's attitude that sex being at all transactional and not purely because a woman wants it is some kind of rape. And I will be the first to admit I know zilch about producing porn but I do know a thing or two about people, and people suck when there's a profit to be made and are always happy to take advantage of others. But I guess this isn't anything special because of the subject, it's true of literally everything.

 

[Daughter of Cernunnos]

There's a radfem on Facebook who's going on long crazy rants about racism and taking out her male hatred on DGR cofounder Derrick Jensen, who talks sense.

 

[tuscangarder]

I hope they walk in on their boyfriends jerking it to virtual reality porn. He will have stage 5 porn sickness at that point.

 

[AF 802]

I have a question about TERFs. Are TERFs just uniquely critical of trans people in general, or are they just critical of the ones who force themselves into everything and may not actually have gender dysphoria? If they're just critical of trans people in general, is it possible to be a TERF when someone really is just doing it for attention/ill-doings?