Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

MCG_Raven said:
make sure to let him know that he's done god's satan's DIO's work by sticking up for Vic and that everybody that actually cares about his work will continue to do so even if Sabat tries shit.
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oh I will guys don't worry about that I'll see if I can grab more info if he consents to it of course.
 
Something interesting I noticed in the filing that I haven't noticed mentioned yet, though maybe I missed it. From page 95:

17. I have appeared at a number of conventions in 2019. They are listed below, along with the amounts I earned at each (all amounts rounded down to the nearest thousand dollars):

a. Kamehacon - $37,000
b. Savannah - $13,000
c. Central PA - $5,000
d. Puerto Rico - $11,000
e. BakAnime - $5,000
f. Anime Matsuri - $30,000
g. Super World Con - $5,000
h. Ireland - $12,000
i. Liberty - $14,000
j. Jacksonville NC - $12,000
k. Bubba Fest - $17,000
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So, roughly $161,000 earned at cons this year. He also notes that:

18. Five of the conventions that cancelled me were as large or larger than Anime Matsuri. These were: Emerald City Comic Con, Florida Super Con, Fan Expo Toronto, Fan Expo Orlando (aka MegaCon) and Planet Comic Con. It is reasonable to expect that I would have earned similar amounts at each of these conventions that I earned at Anime Matsuri ($30,000), but I would have earned a minimum of $20,000 per convention because they were all larger in attendance than Anime Matsuri. I would have expected to earn at least $5,000 at each of the smaller conventions that cancelled my appearances, extrapolating from similar sized conventions that I did attend (i.e., the conventions listed in the previous paragraph other than Anime Matsuri).
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Which is to say, his estimated losses due to convention cancellations this year will amount to, at minimum, $135,000, and could be reasonably estimated to be in the range of $180,000-$220,000. To say nothing of lost income from cons not even inviting him for late this year and next year. I'll go fairly conservative and say $180,000 in lost earnings, plus the $161,000 in earnings he actually did get, which is $341,000 in estimated income just from conventions.

I would dare to say this is very much on the high end of convention earnings for anime voice actors in general, but it makes me wonder. How much more than Jamie, or Monica, or Chris, or Sean is it really? Double? Triple? Even more? Does he earn even more in total than Chris Sabat, who has all kinds of power and his own studio?

If there were rumors he were to get some kind of actual power in Funimation, like a director position, in addition to making more money than everyone and already being disliked by his peers...would that have been enough to get them to put together a conspiracy to bring him down? Seems plausible.
 
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Allanon said:
I think he's just made some generic believe survivors tweet at some point. He's mostly looked upon dimly because he falsely accused some other person of rape a year or two ago. Maybe about Christina Vee, or something?
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It was about his ex, Morgan, iirc. Etika made a video about it is, showing vehement distaste towards Nate, and people agreed with him. Nate even commented to get Etika to remove the video, but everybody told him that this is what he deserves, and told him to leave, essentially unwelcoming him from Etika's channel.

It became a joke for Etika's channel, as any antagonistic figure that appeared in a videogame would receive the name "Nate" should naming be possible (it was Etika trying out Pokémon Prism, iirc).
 
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SpiralStars said:
Just looking at Nick as a YouTuber, he picked the wrong holiday weekend to take off. Imagine his viewer count if he did a stream last night. He would also probably cemented himself as the go to in the larger media to follow developments.

That's some family commitment.
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I'm conflicted on this. On one hand weebs have to keep up the pressure. Which would require using more ammo.

On the other hand there is probably some strategic value of giving your enemy a break.

The leaks seem to have put Funimation in lock down with most voice actors not addressing them. (Jamie Marchi did because of course she did.) So now it would appear that Funimation has a pretty good amount of control over their voice actors.
 
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Allanon said:
Its function, allegedly, is to go for those people whom the law can't touch, so that the women who can't see justice any other way can get their justice.
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Metoo may have started with the ideals of dispensing justice towards the untouchable, but now its merely a tool for the opportunistic then the victim. Because there was little consequence for the accuser, ambitious women have used it as a measure to climb the corporate ladder. Quinn is a good example. Dragging in an accusation that by her own words was well healed and dealt with privately. She didn't want 'justice,' she wanted relevance and income.
 
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Zero Day Defense said:
Ya dork, you know what I mean...

But, what I'm suggesting is closer to the latter. They're likely not going to boot Sabat until they're forced to because he's instrumentally useful for them and upper management is likely already complicit with the conspiracy of Sabat's clique. That said... it might be Sony that does such an ousting, but I also find it more likely that if they go that far, they're just going to dissolve Funimation altogether and start looking towards Aniplex instead.



Amazing.

"It was all handled back then". Says who? Certainly not the voice actors, some of whom have been putting themselves in protected mode. Do we have evidence of any warning or sanction? How would it have been handled if these tapes still existed and were able to be leaked? Funimation can't even attest to handling the situation, and wouldn't comment on how they handled the situation at all.

This is curious-- they just flat out made this up.
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Eyeshield said:
This is ridiculous. There was no news about this back then. Despite their new sensitivity, they never bothered to delete it after all these years.

The only defense I can see is that they forgot or the new guard never knew about these recordings. Which really doesn't paint them in pretty pics.
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I think we are dealing with two separate claims that they are trying the same tactic to defuse.

@Zero Day Defense in that picture he is trying to say the "casting couch" stuff was already handled. When someone called him on it he said "I don't know. I don't care. It isn't relevant to the case."

The recordings they are claiming came out 4 years to a decade ago. That sounds fishy but I don't go to anime conventions so I don't know.
 
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Garm said:
I think we are dealing with two separate claims that they are trying the same tactic to defuse.

@Zero Day Defense in that picture he is trying to say the "casting couch" stuff was already handled. When someone called him on it he said "I don't know. I don't care. It isn't relevant to the case."

The recordings they are claiming came out 4 years to a decade ago. That sounds fishy but I don't go to anime conventions so I don't know.
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You know they're desperate when they're not even trying to craft a narrative anymore. They're just throwing out any lie that sounds good enough to try and buy a little more time before it all comes crashing down.
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
You know they're desperate when they're not even trying to craft a narrative anymore. They're just throwing out any lie that sounds good enough to try and buy a little more time before it all comes crashing down.
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Yep. Well, that one guy did. Not sure how the rest are faring.

They lost control of the narrative weeks ago. Funimation trending brought in a bunch of people who had no idea what was going on and were asking questions. There isn't enough KickVic left to control what is being said.

Edit: Welp. World Wide Weeb War.

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Garm said:
Yep. Well, that one guy did. Not sure how the rest are faring.

They lost control of the narrative weeks ago. Funimation trending brought in a bunch of people who had no idea what was going on and were asking questions. There isn't enough KickVic left to control what is being said.

Edit: Welp. World Wide Weeb War.

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KEK now they losing control of twitter trying to do whatever spin they can since the leaks and now with hubers affidavit along with slatochs though I have some information on him about kamehacon 3. the tide of twitter is now slowly pivoting into your favour hopefully with the hearing on friday it will tip even more. let the dominoes fall~
 
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