Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

Rounding up broteampill's tweets on the subject, even they were taken by surprise by the news this weekend

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Fat blue-haired landwhale blockbot author and ZQ right-hand twitter capo Randi Lee Harper's hot take on the situation:

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HoneyBadgersOfOats said:
Considering the amount of women that been proven to be lying about rape just get off with a slap on the wrist and sometimes not even that, I'm willing to bet nothing will come of this. Probably get Gamergate 2.0 and the media will scream about white neo nazi men in their basements playing violent video games while ignoring the fact Zoe got a dude to off himself.
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bbfx said:
I don't think she committed any crime, beside (maybe) defamation. And it's not like he's going to report her to the police.
His family might sue her, but I don't think it's ever going to happen given how his sister reacted.
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The problem in general is that people let them get away with it for a long time.
I don't believe anything will happen to her, bad guys usually win.
 
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Apoth42 said:
And people like Projared and Alec Holowka are/were male feminists that would have otherwise enabled #metoo to destroy people other than themselves.

In some way these people were all victimized by the circumstances that they created.
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Hoisted on their own petard.

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Anthony Bourdain was a side-victim of metoo, too.
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Bourdain had a young daughter, though. Which is why I have zero sympathy for that cokehead.
 
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Did I miss something here? Since when do we accuse people of murder because some weak-willed moron killed himself over internet shit? Isn't that the same kind of ridiculous disingenuous accusation that we usually laugh at anytime a tranny hangs herself and we get blamed?

Also what kind of circlejerking MRA clubhouse has this become when any rape allegation is automatically dismissed as "LOL COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE HAPPENED, CLEARLY A LIE TO DESTROY A MAN'S LIFE". I mean, I think it's wrong to blindly accept accusations as the truth but y'all are pretty much doing the opposite by blindly dismissing them. It's entirely plausible that this guy tried to rape her and it should be taken seriously. Hell it's more than plausible ; she's an attractive woman and he was a male feminist.

Whole lotta feels over reals going on in this thread. You're acting no better than a socjus twitter mob.
 
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Agent of Z.O.G. said:
Okay hold up hold up hold up.
I reread the alecpost and there's basically no rape accusations.
But the articles and the response of the rest of the dev team make the accusation.
For example https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/08/29/developers-jeremy-soule-alec-holowka-luc-shelton-accused-of-sexual-assault/ (http://archive.fo/MH75Y)
Which has the company's quote of "Infinite Fall, the developers behind Night In The Woods, announced on Twitter that it will cut ties with Alec Holowka following allegations of sexual assault against him. "
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/0...olowka-luc-shelton-accused-of-sexual-assault/
Yo this is fucked up.
http://archive.fo/MH75Y
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When you re-read what Quinn wrote, all she is doing is reframing a shitty relationship and all the normal things that happen in a shitty relationship. Some of it is kind of like "ummmmm what were you expecting you dumb bitch"
- "He didn't buy my ticket there"
All he told you was that cost of living wash cheap in Winnipeg and you could live with him if you want. Why didn't you get a job and buy your own ticket like an adult.
- "He wouldn't buy me a ticket back home thus held me hostage and also isolated me"
Why did you stay? Why does he OWE you a plane ticket? How are you a hostage if you are not physically restrained.
- "He locked me out leaving me begging to come back inside"
LOL WUT? Bitch weren't you begging to run away and he held you hostage
- "He berated me in private but in public acted like shit was okay"
How dare he not fight with you in front of other people.
- "Rough sex all the time"
So leave and stop fucking him
- "fisted me through the pussy and dragged me all over"
LOL WUT?

But no where does she say rape. All she says is she had a shitty relationship that in retrospect she decided was abusive. I believe she had a shitty relationship, but she probably did all this crap willingly to keep him around because relationships in your 20s are shitty. She then weasel worded her way into saying (minus the vantriliquist act) all this crap anyone who has been in a shit relationship has gone through is basically abuse which is basically sexually abuse since they were sexual with each other, and sexual abuse is basically rape.

But yeah, technically there is no rape accusation. Just a whiny ex gf.
 
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Dynastia said:
Did I miss something here? Since when do we accuse people of murder because some weak-willed moron killed himself over internet shit? Isn't that the same kind of ridiculous disingenuous accusation that we usually laugh at anytime a tranny hangs herself and we get blamed?

Also what kind of circlejerking MRA clubhouse has this become when any rape allegation is automatically dismissed as "LOL COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE HAPPENED, CLEARLY A LIE TO DESTROY A MAN'S LIFE". I mean, I think it's wrong to blindly accept accusations as the truth but y'all are pretty much doing the opposite by blindly dismissing them. It's entirely plausible that this guy tried to rape her and it should be taken seriously. Hell it's more than plausible ; she's an attractive woman and he was a male feminist.

Whole lotta feels over reals going on in this thread. You're acting no better than a socjus twitter mob.
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cmon man dont copypaste old posts
 
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George Cuckzunian said:
When you re-read what Quinn wrote, all she is doing is reframing a shitty relationship and all the normal things that happen in a shitty relationship. Some of it is kind of like "ummmmm what were you expecting you dumb bitch"
- "He didn't buy my ticket there"
All he told you was that cost of living wash cheap in Winnipeg and you could live with him if you want. Why didn't you get a job and buy your own ticket like an adult.
- "He wouldn't buy me a ticket back home thus held me hostage and also isolated me"
Why did you stay? Why does he OWE you a plane ticket? How are you a hostage if you are not physically restrained.
- "He locked me out leaving me begging to come back inside"
LOL WUT? Bitch weren't you begging to run away and he held you hostage
- "He berated me in private but in public acted like shit was okay"
How dare he not fight with you in front of other people.
- "Rough sex all the time"
So leave and stop fucking him
- "fisted me through the pussy and dragged me all over"
LOL WUT?

But no where does she say rape. All she says is she had a shitty relationship that in retrospect she decided was abusive. I believe she had a shitty relationship, but she probably did all this crap willingly to keep him around because relationships in your 20s are shitty. She then weasel worded her way into saying (minus the vantriliquist act) all this crap anyone who has been in a shit relationship has gone through is basically abuse which is basically sexually abuse since they were sexual with each other, and sexual abuse is basically rape.

But yeah, technically there is no rape accusation. Just a whiny ex gf.
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It's basically the same as the accusations against the Cultist Simulator and Sunless Sea dev. NONE of that is abuse. NONE of it. Cheating on someone isn't abuse. It's a shitty asshole move but it's not abuse. All she described was him kinda being a dickhead boy friend. That's it. And when he threatened legal action the cult screamed 'HOW DARE YOU TRY TO DEFEND YOURSELF BELIEVE WOMEN ONLY GUILTY PEOPLE USE LAWYERS IT'S THREATENING TO VICTIMS'

Fuck that. We live in such a shitty fucking timeline.
 
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Dynastia said:
Did I miss something here? Since when do we accuse people of murder because some weak-willed moron killed himself over internet shit? Isn't that the same kind of ridiculous disingenuous accusation that we usually laugh at anytime a tranny hangs herself and we get blamed?

Also what kind of circlejerking MRA clubhouse has this become when any rape allegation is automatically dismissed as "LOL COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE HAPPENED, CLEARLY A LIE TO DESTROY A MAN'S LIFE". I mean, I think it's wrong to blindly accept accusations as the truth but y'all are pretty much doing the opposite by blindly dismissing them. It's entirely plausible that this guy tried to rape her and it should be taken seriously. Hell it's more than plausible ; she's an attractive woman and he was a male feminist.

Whole lotta feels over reals going on in this thread. You're acting no better than a socjus twitter mob.
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One has to consider this happening to him in industries like this...
I don't feel much for the guy. I just want Zoe out of my Internets.
 
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Bad Headspace said:
The problem in general is that people let them get away with it for a long time.
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What Alec allegedly did to Zoe is not really illegal, beside maybe the whole turning her into a finger puppet thing that might be sexual assault? Even if he did whatever she said he did, it was more of a "2/10 boyfriend, wouldn't date again" than a "let the rapist rot in prison" thing. Being an asshole isn't a crime.
As a side note: probably the relationship was shitty on both sides, I've rarely met a couple where one of them was an asshole and the other was a saint. The fact that she keeps getting into relationships with abusers and she gets raped every other week also suggests that she isn't really the best human being ever.
What Zoe did to Alec might be illegal if what she said was false, and fine otherwise. Being a cunt and washing your dirty laundry on twitter isn't a crime, even if it hurts others so much they off themselves.
By all means, Alec is responsible of offing himself, even if I morally think Zoe is responsible to some degree.

TL;DR - Shit's messy.
 
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knightlautrec said:
It's basically the same as the accusations against the Cultist Simulator and Sunless Sea dev. NONE of that is abuse. NONE of it. Cheating on someone isn't abuse. It's a shitty asshole move but it's not abuse. All she described was him kinda being a dickhead boy friend. That's it. And when he threatened legal action the cult screamed 'HOW DARE YOU TRY TO DEFEND YOURSELF BELIEVE WOMEN ONLY GUILTY PEOPLE USE LAWYERS IT'S THREATENING TO VICTIMS'
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Are there any news about this drama? I haven't seen anything new after game journos got mad because he called a police. I hope he will fight for the truth and won't off himself.
 
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Lemmingwise said:
Yeah, Harvey Epstein. People would have had a lot more sympathy for his mental illness of liking kids if there wasn't such a hate mob of false accusers out there.

Another person who killed himself because he didn't want to hurt a fly and couldn't deal with people ubfairly thinking bad of him.
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....Please take note of the image in the upper-left corner of the webpage:

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Do this, and please remind yourself what website you are currently on, and what our general modus operendi is when covering people make asses of themselves. Now remind yourself that you just compared the victim of a recent suicide to a man involved with one of the most high-profile sex trafficking cases in the history of the world, and ponder if there may be a moment here where you might have missed the plot.
 
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Dynastia said:
Did I miss something here? Since when do we accuse people of murder because some weak-willed moron killed himself over internet shit? Isn't that the same kind of ridiculous disingenuous accusation that we usually laugh at anytime a tranny hangs herself and we get blamed?

Also what kind of circlejerking MRA clubhouse has this become when any rape allegation is automatically dismissed as "LOL COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE HAPPENED, CLEARLY A LIE TO DESTROY A MAN'S LIFE". I mean, I think it's wrong to blindly accept accusations as the truth but y'all are pretty much doing the opposite by blindly dismissing them. It's entirely plausible that this guy tried to rape her and it should be taken seriously. Hell it's more than plausible ; she's an attractive woman and he was a male feminist.

Whole lotta feels over reals going on in this thread. You're acting no better than a socjus twitter mob.
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Strange, when I accidentally double-post, they aren't usually 20 pages apart. 🤔 🤔 🤔
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