Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

I can find the silver lining in anything.

The silver lining in this is that we get a period of quiet from Zoe. She has just enough awareness and low cunning to realize that making any noise right now wouldn't look good to the saner game developers who she could otherwise threaten, bribe, or swindle into letting her on their development teams.

Having said this, I probably jinxed it and either tonight or tomorrow she'll pipe up with a completely insincere public statement decrying suicide and advocating for treating mental illness. As though she knows dick about it, even with that antigame riddled with depression stereotypes that she barely helped out with.

I take it back: there's no silver lining. She's going to open up another social media account and repeat the horrific process of standing atop a (dead) guy's shoulders to make herself more visible.
 
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Morgenti said:
i don't know why we're letting this type of person having some attetion to be honest, i still belive she is just trying to get peoples attetion to,i don't know feel famous about something?



if she belives that it's the right way to create her own fanbase, i'm sorry to say she's just creating a feminist gang solely to destroy carrers of guys she just doesn't like, until she proves that she got abused, i don't belive in a damn word from her.
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I've seen it suggested elsewhere that MGTOW would protect men from this kind of stupidity. Fact is, whether it's ZQ, or some Bar Bitch Barbie, there are women out there that will happily take advantage of the current climate of "Believe wahmen! Not all men, but #YesAllWomen!"

Imagine you go to a bar with Null, and you're having a great time, drinking beer, plotting to mean-word troons to death on the internet, and flirting with chicks, when some broad that completely puts you off (doesn't matter why, just that she's got vibes you don't like) comes over and starts trying to weasel drinks out of you, or suggesting that you could have a good time dumping a load of baby-batter in her box, around the back of the bar. Nulls off chatting up some fattie to take home and feed, so he's not paying attention as you respectfully suggest that you're "just out with a buddy, having a good time, and not looking to hookup with anyone tonight."

Well, women don't like being rejected, and it used to be that a woman rejected like that got the same treatment as a guy rejected like that -"They're just fucking gay, fucking homo, that's why they don't want some of this!"

Slight problem nowadays, though; now, all that woman has to do is go tell the bouncer that you copped a feel, that she saw you try to slip something into someone's drink, and now you're getting hauled out of the bar by your ankle down a flight of stairs, and your head is getting used to open a firedoor 5 or 6 times, while the cops are on their way to book you for attempted or actual sexual assault. Even worse, it doesn't even take that much, now, because you're front and centre, watching someone like ZQ weaponize that societal insistence that we believe women uncritically to vicious effect on social media, with an even more non-existent burden of proof.

You don't even have to be in the same room as someone for your job to be taken, your relationships ruined, your life completely destroyed, and people like ZQ and the far-left types that support her would love to make the abuse of PayPal, Stripe, Patreon and all the rest even more prevalent. We're talking about people that WANT a social credit system like China has, because they somehow believe they'll be in charge of it, and they'll not only be the ones that dictate the nature of the crimes for which you can be found guilty without due process, but they magically believe, contrary to all historical precedent, that they'll never be subject to such unpersoning.

If we ignore how this could tie into the current downward plunge of civility and ever-widening social gulfs between the various groups of actual radicals and reactionaries, we're watching as Nero fiddles.
 
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TerribleIdeas™ said:
She got busted for allegations by her recently-converted fundie ex-porn-star-hubbie, who claimed that her and her boyfriend were abusing the child she'd had with the ex-hubbie. The best current info is that Mercedes and the boyfriend categorically deny all charges, and there's no evidence that any sexual abuse was occurring, last I saw reported, but it's going to trial in late September. Also worth noting that the ex-hubbie was seeking custody, and had already claims that Mercedes having a cam studio on the property was grounds to be awarded full custody without visitation, even though Mercedes had been able to prove that the studio area was under lock and key, and completely inaccessible to the daughter.
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Didn't the police find meth in the house too though?
 
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Interesting stuff. Sorry if this has been posted already, I just haven't seen it here yet if it has.
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JohnDoe said:
You think that skinny bitch is me? Don't tell me that all hyenas look the same to you, that's speciesest!
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oh shit bro sorry

go kick that canid's ass tho, he let down the side
 
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Didn't the police find meth in the house too though?
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And an unloaded handgun, both in the locked up portion of the house that the cam studio is in. I think I saw something about those charges being dropped, because both were discovered during a search of the premises about child abuse allegations, but the only source I can find is the XBiz article, which is essentially the only place that even mentions the case, right now.
 
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Jaimas said:
Alec killing himself was a fucking tragedy. But do you know what was just as bad? Him being surrounded by "friends" that, rather than take his side, immediately threw him under the bus so they wouldn't be caught in the crossfire. A family that wouldn't stand up for him and publicly condemned him as guilty. All while a legion of shrieking autists called for his head and demanded he kill himself (go look at the ResetERA thread if you want to see that shit in real time), and all without so much as a scrap of evidence was dropped beyond a few anecdotes.

For all I know, he was completely innocent. If I'm wrong about that and there's evidence on that one, please, correct me, I'm not too proud to admit that's a possibility. What I do know is that between the offensives he was facing down and whatever went on in his own life, Alec found something he decided he couldn't live with.

I will reiterate what I said: While she is absolutely culpable, and fully deserves any and all contempt one can leverage, Quinn did not kill this man. She merely gave the word and the outrage mob, Alec's own friends, and Alec himself did the rest.
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"She didn't kill him, she was just solely responsible for the drama that resulted in his death."

Wow what a cool and smart take.
 
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stakenifes said:
She pretty much accused him of being controlling, blackmailing her with threats, being abusive (verbally), etc.
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She didn't even accuse him of blackmailing her. Just that he was abusive then gave some vague definitions that the consentual sex she had with him was rougher than she wanted and she felt coerced into doing it meaning it was sexual abuse. Everything was just exagerations of shit people do in shitty relationships (minus the grabbing her by the pussy, but that was lulzy as fuck)

Of course she also claimed she forgave him and he sought out therapy for these actions that happened 8 years ago, and she felt like airing out all this dirty laundry because a friend of hers just #MeTooed a dude and had a very good experience doing it (seriously, re read it. While not in those words she litterally admits she's me tooing a guy cause she wants to join the bandwagon and she already forgave him).

Good thing he apologized to her. Who knows what could of happened to Alec if he didn't apologize to Zoe and get Therapy to help with his mental issues.
 
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So putting aside hyperbole and such for a moment, what are the chances of actual consequences? Beyond this being brought up against Zoe for the rest of her life, does anyone else thing nothing much will happen?

Zoe was likely using the Alec story as a way to get back interest after her star had waned, but that turned sharply on its head following Alec's death and she had to outright nuke her public account.

My guess on what'll happen: She'll probably come back and spin a "I was harassed off Twitter" narrative that her journo friends will report on and everyone will use to try and own "the gamers" or something, Zoe will get some Patreon pity bucks and probably have a boring consentual relationship with another developer that in five years she will report as a daily string of rapes, beatings and mandatory sessions of Scrabble.
 
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Stand ups a bit of a strong word, she blocked a load of shit posters while a throng of idiots defended her, her interaction wasnt really required for GG. I see deeper courage than anything Zoe's ever done on a fairly regular basis. I can't help but notice that these people are all adults who act like nerdy 14 year olds, typically the ones who are slightly afraid to grow and clung onto childlike trappings a little longer than wholesome.

As I side note In find myself a growing increasingly distasteful of Eileen Holowka, If it was my sibling I'd want Quinns head on a pike and all those who cast the stones buried alive. Even if he was a cunt and what Quinn said was correct. Blood is blood.

I can't stand those who won't stand by their own kin.
 
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Dynastia said:
Did I miss something here? Since when do we accuse people of murder because some weak-willed moron killed himself over internet shit? Isn't that the same kind of ridiculous disingenuous accusation that we usually laugh at anytime a tranny hangs herself and we get blamed?

Also what kind of circlejerking MRA clubhouse has this become when any rape allegation is automatically dismissed as "LOL COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE HAPPENED, CLEARLY A LIE TO DESTROY A MAN'S LIFE". I mean, I think it's wrong to blindly accept accusations as the truth but y'all are pretty much doing the opposite by blindly dismissing them. It's entirely plausible that this guy tried to rape her and it should be taken seriously. Hell it's more than plausible ; she's an attractive woman and he was a male feminist.

Whole lotta feels over reals going on in this thread. You're acting no better than a socjus twitter mob.
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"You people are the REAL SJWs"

You're so gay and annoying. Hey nigger, do you say "y'all" in real life too? Everyone hates you.
 
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So putting aside hyperbole and such for a moment, what are the chances of actual consequences? Beyond this being brought up against Zoe for the rest of her life, does anyone else thing nothing much will happen?

Zoe was likely using the Alec story as a way to get back interest after her star had waned, but that turned sharply on its head following Alec's death and she had to outright nuke her public account.

My guess on what'll happen: She'll probably come back and spin a "I was harassed off Twitter" narrative that her journo friends will report on and everyone will use to try and own "the gamers" or something, Zoe will get some Patreon pity bucks and probably have a boring consentual relationship with another developer that in five years she will report as a daily string of rapes, beatings and mandatory sessions of Scrabble.
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What can be done to Chelsea at this point? The gaming media will spin this in a way to suit her because she has somehow finessed every single person around her and still defend her. That's something I don't quite understand; why she is respected in the industry at all, unless she has something over a majority of the indie scene. Perhaps evidence of something illegal or something like money laundering or something along those lines?

She's such a terrible person; nothing is off the table. If she was a superhero, she'd be called SuicideGirl and her power would be to make you commit suicide. Still can't take a nice photo though.
 
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