Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

[TerribleIdeas™]

Everyone in this thread want to believe that Zoe is telling a lie, and that the allegations are bullshit, but why wouldn't he at least release a statement saying that he hadn't done anything? Mental illness doesn't prevent you from at least telling your side of the story, clearly he could have had his judgement clouded by it, but if he wanted to confirm or deny what he had done, why hadn't he done it?

Clearly something fishy is on the books here.

What difference would his side of the story make? SJWs aren't interested in redemption, they want blood.

Anything that wasn't completely accepting of 100% of the blame for everything she claimed would be considered an attempt to weasel out of responsibility, anything that suggested that she was a shitty person would have been considered whataboutism and derailment from his acknowledgement of his horrendous misdeeds. Even accepting 100% guilt isn't ever enough for the cancel crowd, they'll just use it as a bludgeon to extract more blood, until the person finally kills themselves, and then the person is just a coward, taking the coward's way out.

These people are working straight out of the Maoist playbook.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Redeeming yourself has nothing to do with it, if he wanted to denying the allegations before killing yourself is as easy as making a statement of "I did not do it". Killing yourself in this scenario almost seems like an admission of guilt, and I'm fairly certain regardless of his mental illness, he was cognizant enough enough to take that into consideration.

There will be no trial, no confirmation of either side being telling lies, it's all speculation. But he looks pretty fucking guilty right now.

Why would he have bothered saying "I did not do it", though? It changes literally nothing once you're dead.

Saying you're not guilty is what someone who wants to look innocent would say. Saying nothing just means he didn't care about what people would think.

There's also the possibility that he left a note that hasn't been released to the public..

 

[Jaimas]

"She didn't kill him, she was just solely responsible for the drama that resulted in his death."

Wow what a cool and smart take.

If you want criminally prosecutable like many people seem to, you're not getting it from this. I'm sorry to be a bearer of bad news.

 

[90ff]

What difference would his side of the story make? SJWs aren't interested in redemption, they want blood.

The difference is that if he had given any statement whatsoever, I would have taken that into consideration, SJWs are intense, but SJWs aren't the entire population, and people like myself would have taken his statements into consideration before forming an opinion.

It seems like the majority of the people on this forum just flat out Zoe is lying, as well, which is just as bad, seeing as they took the original Zoe note at face value.

Aight, so I'm just unhappy. What are you on about you Cancel Culture apologist?

I was active in the original gamergate, having a contrary opinion doesn't make me an apologist.

Why would he have bothered saying "I did not do it", though? It changes literally nothing once you're dead.

It absolutely does, people are always worried about the memory they leave behind, and him denying the allegations rather than flat out killing himself could contribute to the argument against airing dirty laundry on twitter.

 

[MediocreMilt]

Redeeming yourself has nothing to do with it, if he wanted to denying the allegations before killing yourself is as easy as making a statement of "I did not do it". Killing yourself in this scenario almost seems like an admission of guilt, and I'm fairly certain regardless of his mental illness, he was cognizant enough enough to take that into consideration.

There will be no trial, no confirmation of either side being telling lies, it's all speculation. But he looks pretty fucking guilty right now.

You understand approximately nothing about mental health issues. He's a random soycuck, not Bud Dwyer. Most suicides are just an expression of feeling like you're finished, not a final Nice Shot.

Spoiler: Gore

 

[cawk mcnibbler69^%]

How much you wanna bet they all view themselves as good people?

 

[TJ-Weber]

There are some narratives she can go with but you have keep in mind this guy was a big deal in the indie scene to the people who actually code. She also has to square a lot of uncomfortable circles that are hard to approach. I was a victim that lead a mob for my past relationship, but I was a victim of gamergate because my ex aired out our past relationship. Bullying to suicide is bad, but sexual assaulters deserve to die. I forgave him, he victimized and abused me.

I agree that making it about her being a victim is the trusty stand by, but it doesn't seem to be working so far and even her own ilk isn't buying it. People aren't even buying the sister saying how stunning and brave Zoe is for helping push her brother along to suicide. But I don't think she doesn't have an ace up her sleeve.

I think the line she's gonna go with is "Re read what I wrote. I said I forgave him. I never said he raped me. All I did was try and stand with the brave victims and the internet took it too far because they didn't take the time to listen to what I was actually saying. The thing about listen and believe is you have to LISTEN." I think she's gonna blame the people who accused him of being a rapist and made it bigger than it was. Why throw the betas to the wolves? They will do nothing about it, they don't have the balls to slap her back, she doesn't have to recant her accusations, she doesn't have to take any responsibility for her actions and can blame the people who backed her for not listening fully to her, and she will be technically right.

>she said she forgave him and he was a changed person at the very begining of the letter
>she never outright said he raped her
>she never said the rough shitty sex was non consensual, only that he abused her and manipulated her meaning the abuse she went through was sexual abuse by nature

After that, she'll go back to what she knows, being bullied and begging for money. If GG won't do it to her anymore she can be victimized by the mentally unstable mob she sent after Alec by blaming them and claiming they weren't good allies and listen too poorly. She did that when her fan base flipped on her for not making the Chuck Tingle game they paid for.

Again, please read her actual post, I made the mistake of thinking she forgave Alec, but she was actually forgiving someone else before she met Alec who had she explicitly claim sexually assaulted her. Meanwhile, Nowhere in her story actually about Alec does she explicitly say he sexually assaulted her.

 

[90ff]

You understand approximately nothing about mental health issues. He's a random soycuck, not Bud Dwyer. Most suicides are just an expression of feeling like you're finished, not a final Nice Shot.

Nice assumption, but I have my own personal experiences and anecdotes with suicide. If that was truly the action that led him to suicide, then believing that he did it is a completely valid position.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Or his mental illness led him to believe there was no hope no matter what he had or hadn't done.

I think that's the case. In the example I posted about that kid from Argentina, the ex accused him of rape only to have something to share with other feminists. Even after she said she made it up, his name was already everywhere and everyone was talking about him. Even though some days he felt better, his mother said he was often moody and eventually killed himself. The kid was 19 and had all his life ahead and more hope than he probably expected. But he didn't think so.

Now, the kid was, up until that, normal and well. This Alec (or Alex? aargh...) guy seemed to have had some issues before. It probably hit him harder, especially considering that, unlike this Arg. kid, he had no support because everybody abandoned him.

 

[heathercho]

It's almost like these narcs in the SocJus world made a gun that was designed to "Shoot Assholes", stood smugly around whilst it took out those they disliked, walked it around like a cuntpuppet, huffed it's dopamine farts and then shocked pikachu'd when it finally shot them....

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

This is horrible. Convenient that she’s “dipping out” of social media right before this happens. This woman is going to come back as a cockroach in her next life.

That is insulting to cockroaches.

 

[Particle Bored]

Alternative post:
5 guys //murder// and fries

Maybe people will stop calling her "5 Guys..."

 

[GavinBranson]

You think Zoe Quinn will still write stories for comic books?
“Suicide Squad” does seem like a title suited for her.

Edit: too soon?

 

[TJ-Weber]

An actual positive message about Alec from one of his good friends it seems:

Kimberly Sheehan on Twitter

“I hope you don’t mind me sharing this Alec, but I hope the tea is so much better where you are now. I love you and I miss you and I will never forget you. I love you. I’m sorry you couldn’t stick around any more. You were a great friend. You blessed my life.”

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Twitter

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[George Cuckzunian]

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Hmmm, can't find that tweet. Wondering if they got back lash and now this tweet is whats up

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

@90ff Being a forced contrarian does not make you an interesting nor intelligent person. You're still blatantly ignoring people's point about how right/wrong stopped mattering, he's dead and therefore can't be a better person now, try harder to troll.

 

[90ff]

@90ff Being a forced contrarian does not make you an interesting nor intelligent person. You're still blatantly ignoring people's point about how right/wrong stopped mattering, he's dead and therefore can't be a better person now, try harder to troll.

Excuse me?
What matters now is if Zoe lied or not.

 

[MediocreMilt]

An actual positive message about Alec from one of his good friends it seems:

Kimberly Sheehan on Twitter

“I hope you don’t mind me sharing this Alec, but I hope the tea is so much better where you are now. I love you and I miss you and I will never forget you. I love you. I’m sorry you couldn’t stick around any more. You were a great friend. You blessed my life.”

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Twitter

archived 31 Aug 2019 20:49:47 UTC

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She's /ourguy/

 

[stakenifes]

Nice assumption, but I have my own personal experiences and anecdotes with suicide. If that was truly the action that led him to suicide, then believing that he did it is a completely valid position.

You keep dancing around the fact that he was fired from his job, ostracised by his peers, and had his name completely tarnished because of the allegations, whether true or not. Even if they were true, they were hardly serious accusations.

 

[90ff]

You keep dancing around the fact that he was fired from his job, ostracised by his peers, and had his name completely tarnished because of the allegations, whether true or not. Even if they were true, they were hardly serious accusations.

Yes, that's terrible, but that's the nature of the soyboy game industry. He was a feminist sympathizer and facilitiated the culture that brought his demise.