Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

"A jilted ex lover posted a mean thing online about me with no evidence! My life is over!"
5 years and hundreds of thousands of donations later
*10 years ago I had to hide in my ex lovers house for being in Canada illegally. It was abuse! I have no evidence but I'm so scared! But don't ruin his life ;)"
Chelsea you literally did what you testified to Congress about making illegal. You have blood on your hands.

Alternative post:
5 guys //murder// and fries
 
Don't play much Indie shit myself but its amazing that this is how people viewed Scott Benson's writing.


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This games morals don't age well.



The furry community being a degenerate hellhole filled with actual pedophiles and chair-sniffing creeps may play a role...

They ought to have a sequel where the moral is if you make shitty friends, like SJWs, they'll kick the stool out from under you when you have the noose around your neck, then piss on your dead body. Then they'll preen themselves on how moral and enlightened they are.
 
So putting aside hyperbole and such for a moment, what are the chances of actual consequences? Beyond this being brought up against Zoe for the rest of her life, does anyone else thing nothing much will happen?

Zoe was likely using the Alec story as a way to get back interest after her star had waned, but that turned sharply on its head following Alec's death and she had to outright nuke her public account.

My guess on what'll happen: She'll probably come back and spin a "I was harassed off Twitter" narrative that her journo friends will report on and everyone will use to try and own "the gamers" or something, Zoe will get some Patreon pity bucks and probably have a boring consentual relationship with another developer that in five years she will report as a daily string of rapes, beatings and mandatory sessions of Scrabble.

There are some narratives she can go with but you have keep in mind this guy was a big deal in the indie scene to the people who actually code. She also has to square a lot of uncomfortable circles that are hard to approach. I was a victim that lead a mob for my past relationship, but I was a victim of gamergate because my ex aired out our past relationship. Bullying to suicide is bad, but sexual assaulters deserve to die. I forgave him, he victimized and abused me.

I agree that making it about her being a victim is the trusty stand by, but it doesn't seem to be working so far and even her own ilk isn't buying it. People aren't even buying the sister saying how stunning and brave Zoe is for helping push her brother along to suicide. But I don't think she doesn't have an ace up her sleeve.

I think the line she's gonna go with is "Re read what I wrote. I said I forgave him. I never said he raped me. All I did was try and stand with the brave victims and the internet took it too far because they didn't take the time to listen to what I was actually saying. The thing about listen and believe is you have to LISTEN." I think she's gonna blame the people who accused him of being a rapist and made it bigger than it was. Why throw the betas to the wolves? They will do nothing about it, they don't have the balls to slap her back, she doesn't have to recant her accusations, she doesn't have to take any responsibility for her actions and can blame the people who backed her for not listening fully to her, and she will be technically right.

>she said she forgave him and he was a changed person at the very begining of the letter
>she never outright said he raped her
>she never said the rough shitty sex was non consensual, only that he abused her and manipulated her meaning the abuse she went through was sexual abuse by nature

After that, she'll go back to what she knows, being bullied and begging for money. If GG won't do it to her anymore she can be victimized by the mentally unstable mob she sent after Alec by blaming them and claiming they weren't good allies and listen too poorly. She did that when her fan base flipped on her for not making the Chuck Tingle game they paid for.
 
So putting aside hyperbole and such for a moment, what are the chances of actual consequences? Beyond this being brought up against Zoe for the rest of her life, does anyone else thing nothing much will happen?

Sorry to shoot down any hopes, but the people here suggesting this might be criminally actionable are way off base. Nobody's going to be hauled into court for this. The Carter case in MA is really not comparable, the circumstances were vastly different. Even if someone were willing to bring the case to civil court via wrongful death suit, it'd almost assuredly be dead on arrival.
 
Honestly, I think the fact that he murked himself instead of trying to tell his "side of the story" pretty telling.

It's likely that due to his mental illness, he actually did harass people. The only caveat is that Zoe shouldn't have aired her dirty laundry to try to destroy his reputation, as a stint in jail would have done that just fine.
 
Honestly, I think the fact that he murked himself instead of trying to tell his "side of the story" pretty telling.

It's likely that due to his mental illness, he actually did harass people. The only caveat is that Zoe shouldn't have aired her dirty laundry to try to destroy his reputation, as a stint in jail would have done that just fine.
Or his mental illness led him to believe there was no hope no matter what he had or hadn't done. Either way, jail wasnt in the cards because we all know Zoe had no intention of going to the cops. That's not her way.
 
Or his mental illness led him to believe there was no hope no matter what he had or hadn't done. Either way, jail wasnt in the cards because we all know Zoe had no intention of going to the cops. That's not her way.

Everyone in this thread want to believe that Zoe is telling a lie, and that the allegations are bullshit, but why wouldn't he at least release a statement saying that he hadn't done anything? Mental illness doesn't prevent you from at least telling your side of the story, clearly he could have had his judgement clouded by it, but if he wanted to confirm or deny what he had done, why hadn't he done it?

Clearly something fishy is on the books here.
 
I would if I could somehow figure out how to piss gasoline.
I wonder if injecting gasoline in your urethra would work. 🤔
Reminder that Phantom Thief was a VIP: https://resetera.kiwifarms.net/vip/Phantom Thief (warning takes forever to load cause its a giant fucking page with every post on it)
It looks like he only made two posts about Alec.

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Everyone in this thread want to believe that Zoe is telling a lie, and that the allegations are bullshit, but why wouldn't he at least release a statement saying that he hadn't done anything? Mental illness doesn't prevent you from at least telling your side of the story, clearly he could have had his judgement clouded by it, but if he wanted to confirm or deny what he had done, why hadn't he done it?

Clearly something fishy is on the books here.
Why bother releasing a statement? It's not like it matters much once you're dead. Anyways, Zoe's supporters would have attacked him. Maybe he didn't feel like dealing with that drama.
 
Everyone in this thread want to believe that Zoe is telling a lie, and that the allegations are bullshit, but why wouldn't he at least release a statement saying that he hadn't done anything? Mental illness doesn't prevent you from at least telling your side of the story, clearly he could have had his judgement clouded by it, but if he wanted to confirm or deny what he had done, why hadn't he done it?

Clearly something fishy is on the books here.

I reckon trying to redeem yourself is pretty low on the list of priorities before necking yaself.

Also, you're leaving out the possibility that he left a note.
 
I reckon trying to redeem yourself is pretty low on the list of priorities before necking yaself.

Also, you're leaving out the possibility that he left a note.

Redeeming yourself has nothing to do with it, if he wanted to denying the allegations before killing yourself is as easy as making a statement of "I did not do it". Killing yourself in this scenario almost seems like an admission of guilt, and I'm fairly certain regardless of his mental illness, he was cognizant enough enough to take that into consideration.

There will be no trial, no confirmation of either side being telling lies, it's all speculation. But he looks pretty fucking guilty right now.
 
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Well what do you know, he's right. Anyone have archives of Zoes not deleted twitter now that she has set it to private?

She has a lot of non-deleted handles

 
Everyone in this thread want to believe that Zoe is telling a lie, and that the allegations are bullshit, but why wouldn't he at least release a statement saying that he hadn't done anything? Mental illness doesn't prevent you from at least telling your side of the story, clearly he could have had his judgement clouded by it, but if he wanted to confirm or deny what he had done, why hadn't he done it?

Clearly something fishy is on the books here.
Aight, so I'm just unhappy. What are you on about you Cancel Culture apologist? The point wasn't whether or not he did it, the point is that how they handled it pushed a tormented human past their breaking point. Legal actions for what he's done in the past would mean he would get turned over to experts that could help him further better himself. He's dead now you tool, instead of rehabilitating someone and showing that people can and should change for the better, we've now got a scene of hostility and fear for any and all parties involved and you're content to ignore this and call us fishy.

Lemme go grab some words on this story from his old boss. https://www.reddit.com/r/NightInTheWoods/comments/cxqjp8/end_of_summer_backer_update/
"But beginning in this bad time for Alec in 2015 (and he's publicly talked about this, we're not dropping confidential info) he went through a good month or so of intense therapy and diagnosis. He emerged from that, honestly putting in the work, putting a lot of that past self behind him, staying up on therapy and meds. We were so proud of him. And relieved. By 2016 he was basically a new person, and we really got to be friends then I think, and we finished up NITW."
The blood is on the hands of Cancel Culture for killing what is "supposed" to be their goal, abusers bettering themselves. Just fuck off you angry little gremlin.
 
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