Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

They cannot entertain the possibility that you're innocent because that would mean they have to entertain the notion that the woman is lying / insane.
It's quite depressing that they cannot act like normal human beings and not believe something just because the person who said it has tits.

As for the lawyer stuff? Nah. You can't sue the internet, that's why this website still exists.
You can sue someone for defamation over shit they post on the internet, tho. If a specific person was accusing me of shit I never did, and ruining my reputation, I would absolutely sue them.
You really shouldn't make claims that harm someone's reputation if you can't substantiate them, not even on the internet.
 
Jesus! Look at those replies!
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Apparently, to these people, calling the fucking police is a thing a "coward" would do!
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No wonder these idiots believed Zoe with no evidence! They actively discourage anyone going to the goddamn police or demanding that this shit be proven in a court of law.
These SJWs are proving our point when we say we need the court of law to fix this shit ”but the police are bad guys!” Shut up, nigga! You idiots got a man killed and a blue checkmark person for once has a brain to report this to the police. We should do the same and call the cops on Zoe and her Minions.
 
I just wanna know what the end goal of #metoo'ing Alec was if he "wasn't supposed to kill himself".

Let's say Zoe's truthful and he did all that shit in the past.

Would he ever be able to work in games again? His friends say he'd been working on himself and was like "a new person". Was redemption possible, and if so, what would the parameters be for him to be forgiven and how long would it take?
 
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No wonder these idiots believed Zoe with no evidence! They actively discourage anyone going to the goddamn police or demanding that this shit be proven in a court of law.

That’s why I laughed when some people here thought people were going to be empathetic and introspective when Alec killed himself. They want these guys dead.
 
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No wonder these idiots believed Zoe with no evidence! They actively discourage anyone going to the goddamn police or demanding that this shit be proven in a court of law.
"He's confident enough in his innocence to let the legal system judge him, he's clearly guilty!"
 
However the more interesting person here is @notquitefrodo or Jared Rosen, being the lead skins writer at Riot Games down to even having a wiki page about him. Turns out he also posted about the Zoe Quinn callout post and he implies he has ties with Zoe by the wording here:
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So from this picture alone we can see that Zoe Quinn has ties to overly political woke furries, weird twitter, and gamedevs. Worth noting is that judging by the artist's commission prices this picture wasn't cheap at all.
Jared is how I initially found out about Zoe's allegations. I have no issues, he seems like a good dude but it's worth noting he was crowing about being one of the "good Jareds" left back in May after all the ProJared stuff surfaced.
 
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I remember me2 thing from a guy, about mental abuse. let me... oh, here it is. And thats a great example that you can't win this game. We already had suicide, police report, and here we have.. apology
Guy have read zoe's accusation and decided to talk
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Ken said sorry
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YOU ONLY SAY SORRY TO SAFE YOUR FACE (link)
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I just wanna know what the end goal of #metoo'ing Alec was if he "wasn't supposed to kill himself".

Let's say Zoe's truthful and he did all that shit in the past.

Would he ever be able to work in games again? His friends say he'd been working on himself and was like "a new person". Was redemption possible, and if so, what would the parameters be for him to be forgiven and how long would it take?

You know what, I wonder what every dude who has ever fucked Zoe is thinking right now. Cause she has fucked a lot of dudes. Like they must know deep down she is trouble, they must be replaying everything in their minds right now to see if she could concoct some fiction from it.

She's a psycho who looks like she loves rough sex, wears chokers, and probably asked to be slapped around in the past. Imagine being that guy right now. "In 2011 _______ grabbed me by the throat and threw me against the wall, I was terrified and had to suck his dick to get out of that situation." What she would neglect to include was her begging a skinny effeminate nerd to choke her and said "I'm a naughty slut are you gonna punish me daddy?" to someone who worships women and desperately wants to make them happy.

She very clearly has a type, and that type is weak men she can manipulate. Like she literally goes after guys she dominates physically given her size, compare her arms to Alec's.
 
These answers would be funny if the whole situation wasn't so fucking depressing.

What should an innocent person do, in their opinion? Just ignore it and wait till it goes away? Say "nou" on twitter, and enjoy being the target of a hate campaign?
Shit, if someone was alleging I'm a rapist online I'd be on the phone with my lawyer before I finished reading the tweet, and on my way to the cops as soon as the call ended.

2nd Amendment.

I just wanna know what the end goal of #metoo'ing Alec was if he "wasn't supposed to kill himself".

She killed people for fun, internet points and attention on Helldump. Why not just assume she has the reasons as now? She probably didn't think the guy would kill himself but ruining people for attention and precious victimhood fits her MO.

Let's say Zoe's truthful and he did all that shit in the past.

Let's not waste time and space doing this. Male feminist or not, I'm not inclined to believe a word from her.
 
I don't believe it was ever about Alec. It was always about Zoe and her need for notoriety.
Alec was a tool to an end. He died for her personal need for retweets and patreons. Don't delude yourself there is something deeper.
It was more of a metaphorical question.
I don't believe they had an end goal in mind for Alec except "kick him out of the game industry". I don't believe they had thoughts or ideas beyond that.
 
It was more of a metaphorical question.
I don't believe they had an end goal in mind for Alec except "kick him out of the game industry". I don't believe they had thoughts or ideas beyond that.

"Do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they
think it's funny." -Christian Weston Chandler.
 
LMAO of course. It's the abuse victims fault. Sure, idiot.

Let's shit on all abusive victims because hurr durr Zoe Quinn evil.

I hope she reads this, bro.

This Quinn drama is going to be a boon to the MGTOW community.

I explained why it doesn't matter, up-thread. Linus Torvald spent a decade avoiding being alone with women, because he felt he had a reasonable fear of being exposed to a honey-pot situation, and when the feminists trying to jam codes of conduct couldn't get him that way, they convinced his daughter to become a feminist. It doesn't matter if you use the Pence Rule or not, they're willing to rewrite the rules to ensure that you can be punished, because you're a man.
 
Here's Albertine Watson's screed against Alec (littlebluerobot on twitter). Think somebody already posted this. Posted this one day before his suicide. Boils down to: "He was mean and dificult to work with and didn't respond to us (her and the other ppl in his dev team) about the allegations right away." also accuses him of wanting to fire her for not dating him. no evidence. she might've just been bad at her job. also interesting to note that she says alec never responded to them about the allegations - so didn't confess. she's friends with his sister.

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She locked her account now, but apparently tweeted about the situation. Here are some tweets to her. I did not archive them because there are so many and I didn't deem it necessary. Also these go on for quite a while.

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Addis is an insanely creepy trans woman game dev.

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what did weinstein ever do that warrants prison?
from what i know about the case (which is not much, i admit) he would offer to use his influence and power to give a big career bost to an actress in exchange for her sucking him off. didn't force himself on anyone, didn't rape anyone, didn't drug anyone, just offer sex for favors. i don't even know if that is technically illegal (maybe it qualifies as soliciting a prostitute?) but even if it is, i'm pretty sure it's a LOT less severe of an offense than actual rape or sexual assault.

Weinstein's case was way way different; in that it was several shades of perversion Hollywood style and with the added bonus of political criminal behavior/intrigue added into it.

For starters, the casting couch is a huge thing and several women did come forward to stating point blank that their careers were FUBARed when they wouldn't fuck Harvey on command. Also, Harvey was THAT powerful; he had the Hollywood A-List on speed dial, his studio had the most powerful PR/advertising division in the industry, and routinely bought up properties that were Oscar gold and gave roles in said productions to his most loyal sychophants and the actresses who were willing to fuck him or (in the case of Jessica Lawrence) provide him a steady stream of nudie pics for the roles or, if they were too old (like Judi Dench and Meryl Streep) provide him a steady stream of young newbie actresses for him to pump and dump.

Second, Weinstein's behavior was a well known secret but never got made front page news because Weinstein used his pull and powerful friends to kill any attempt to report it. In the early 00s, Weinstein actually had several big name actors (Matt Damon, Russell Crowe, among others) personally contact a reporter who had Weinstein dead to rights and got said reporter to drop the story. Other reporters, Weinstein flat out bribed himself: getting them developmental deals "to write a movie for him" or outright buy the movie rights to said writer's garbage movie script or book they were writing in their spare time but couldn't get anyone to publish it.

And that's not counting Weinstein's political connections. He was into some serious criminal shit with the DNC/Clintons/Obama breaking all sorts of campaign contribution laws. Politicians can only accept X amount of money donation-wise from a single person/organization; which is a bad thing when you get regular donations from the media elite; one big check could max out how much someone can give over the course of a single campaign. Weinstein helped the left get around this via being a "bag man"

Whenever the DNC, the Clintons, or Obama needed money for their campaigns? Weinstein would take donations from Hollywood's elite and hand it over to the DNC/Clintons/Obama without a paper trail (all campaign contributions must be recorded on record). This let the elites funnel money to the Democrats while skirting campaign donation laws.

Furthermore, whenever the DNC had SJW talking points (gay rights, trans right, feminist crap, global warming, gun control) they wanted spread via Hollywood? Weinstein was there to make it happen. The DNC would give him the talking points and he would pass it along to the writers, directors, actors, etc to shill in interviews and in the plots of their movies and TV shows.

As for why Weinstein ultimately got brough down? A couple of reasons:

1. His studio hit a multi-year rough patch financially and Weinstein's brother and the board of directors wanted Weinstein out because he didn't want to do anything to try and course correct. Since Weinstein only cared about winning Oscars and holding court with his elite friends and circle jerk with them, especially after Trump won.

2. Weinstein had helped Mia Farrow's kid Ronan Farrow get a gig on MSNBC and when Farrow's SJW-centric show flopped? Ronan was livid that MSNBC had canceled him and that Weinstein refused to intercede to keep his show on the air. So he decided to get revenge on Weinstein by creating the ultimate dossier of his being a sexual predator and get someone to publish it.

3. Steve Bannon. Bannon knew that Weinstein was breaking campaign donation laws AND was the point man for the DNC spreading anti-Trump hate mongering/Russiagate lies via Hollywood's elite. He wanted to bring down Weinstein, since that would have delievered a major blow to the Democrats financially by killing their golden goose and damage the Hollywood/DNC pipeline for spewing anti-Trump talking points. And he knew that Ronan was shopping around the mother of all Weinstein exposes and knew that the media had been spiking similar exposes for years.

Once the media knew that Bannon knew what Ronan was doing, they couldn't dismiss Ronan like they did all of the other reporters. Because Bannon would swoop down and deliver the story to Fox News or worse, go public with the fact that the mainstream media had purposely spiked yet another expose on Hollywood's biggest sexual predator/that Hollywood/media had no right harping on Trump being a predator when both Hollywood and the media was protecting an even WORSE predator.

Weinstein's studio and his brother had their excuse to oust him, Hollywood was scrambling to distance themselves from Harvey because of the number of older female stars (Dench, Streep) who were his pimp and manipulated younger actresses to be pumped and dumped and the male actors who actively ran interference for him, along with everyone fearful that Harvey would leak how he was funnelling money to the DNC illegally and how the DNC was using Hollywood as a handpuppet to shill their various agendas.

The only reason Harvey wasn't suicided was due to the fact that he fell on his sword to cover up his position as bagman. Even now, he's been rewarded for his silence as attempts to criminally prosecute him have largely stalled out. He'll never work in Hollywood again, but given that he was already checked out professionally, he probably doesn't care. He's got enough money that he can just retire to Europe if he wanted to.
 
I just wanna know what the end goal of #metoo'ing Alec was if he "wasn't supposed to kill himself".

Let's say Zoe's truthful and he did all that shit in the past.

Would he ever be able to work in games again? His friends say he'd been working on himself and was like "a new person". Was redemption possible, and if so, what would the parameters be for him to be forgiven and how long would it take?

Redemption isn't fully possible. It's more likely that they'd play nice to his face, but all future endeavours would be soured, and they (industry, friends, family) would talk behind his back about how, "you need to watch it around Alec."

The same thing happens in social groups all the time. People get accused of things, and despite all evidence contrary, they hold onto their beliefs that, of course they're right. "That one person acted weird one time, or someone said something (unfounded), so that's good enough for me." No reason why it'd be different here; especially given the extreme nature of that crowd.
 
1) innocent people have a defense. jumping straight to suicide shows he didn’t have one.

2) imagine committing because zoe quinn called you on your shit. people already don’t trust her bro. if you were innocent it would’ve been so fucking easy to destroy her.

3) more people than zoe said alec did this shit. so even if Zoe herself is being an exaggerating drama queen for the clout, i doubt everyone else is just making things up to lick her boots.
 
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