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[GenericReviewerDraco]

The "sub v. dub" debacle in general is cancerous and I don't get why anime fans can't let bygones be bygones; we learned here or in another thread recently from an insider that anime voice-actors sound weird because a lot of them don't actually enjoy their work, and that sucks. If anything, that's what more people should call for when it comes to quality dubs are of people who actually give a damn about quality, but they're unfortunately so hard to find, and a lot of them appear to have retired or died, too.

But I once came across a statement years ago (I can't remember where anymore, sadly) that said they laugh at the sub elitists who claim the Japanese has better acting because the Japanese exaggerate their acting, too. Non-fluent speakers think the Japanese sound better simply because they don't pick up the little nuances like we do with English voice-acting, such as if we can tell they're just reading a script or emoting funny, etc. Hell, Papa Franku touched upon this making fun of weeaboos who pick up Japanese through anime because that's not how the Japanese actually speak in public. The scripts are more simplified compared to one-on-one conversation.

Also there are terrible Japanese seiyuu as well. You usually can pick them out because of wooden acting and also by the amount of roles they have in anime. 'Course, that means you'll have to do some research into them to see where they came from: Yoshino from Digimon Savers, for example, is played by Yui Aragaki. Chances are high you have no clue who she is unless you live in Japan/watch a lot of Asian dramas because she's just a regular model and actress Toei decided to hire to play Yoshino, and she's fucking terrible. Yui just couldn't emote into a microphone and her monotone voice was grating on the ears. She only had one or two other anime roles elsewhere afterwards, but she's not a voice-actress. (In general, I think Savers was just a rough sit in either sub or dub, otherwise-good voice-actors such as Soichiro Hoshi just sounded off in this show.)



The entire dub is a fucking treasure, and it's a damn shame the whole show never got a proper home video release.

Savers is complicated as a whole. I liked it but it felt like it really ran outta steam after Kurata died.

 

[Adach_Ame]

The "sub v. dub" debacle in general is cancerous and I don't get why anime fans can't let bygones be bygones; we learned here or in another thread recently from an insider that anime voice-actors sound weird because a lot of them don't actually enjoy their work, and that sucks. If anything, that's what more people should call for when it comes to quality dubs are of people who actually give a damn about quality, but they're unfortunately so hard to find, and a lot of them appear to have retired or died, too.

But I once came across a statement years ago (I can't remember where anymore, sadly) that said they laugh at the sub elitists who claim the Japanese has better acting because the Japanese exaggerate their acting, too. Non-fluent speakers think the Japanese sound better simply because they don't pick up the little nuances like we do with English voice-acting, such as if we can tell they're just reading a script or emoting funny, etc. Hell, Papa Franku touched upon this making fun of weeaboos who pick up Japanese through anime because that's not how the Japanese actually speak in public. The scripts are more simplified compared to one-on-one conversation.

Also there are terrible Japanese seiyuu as well. You usually can pick them out because of wooden acting and also by the amount of roles they have in anime. 'Course, that means you'll have to do some research into them to see where they came from: Yoshino from Digimon Savers, for example, is played by Yui Aragaki. Chances are high you have no clue who she is unless you live in Japan/watch a lot of Asian dramas because she's just a regular model and actress Toei decided to hire to play Yoshino, and she's fucking terrible. Yui just couldn't emote into a microphone and her monotone voice was grating on the ears. She only had one or two other anime roles elsewhere afterwards, but she's not a voice-actress. (In general, I think Savers was just a rough sit in either sub or dub, otherwise-good voice-actors such as Soichiro Hoshi just sounded off in this show.)



The entire dub is a fucking treasure, and it's a damn shame the whole show never got a proper home video release.

Indeed. I despise that. Cause it's a VERY disingenuous and often slanted argument. It's slightly more dumber than Anime vs Manga. It's the whole A vs B argument, it solves nothing, but try and actively stir up drama for one reason or another. It only serves to divide the community even further. This is my perspective. (Though there is one exception to the rule, ENG Dub of Yu Yu Hakusho is DEFINITELY better than the original japanese version).

ONLY thing I COULD EVER recommend still actually buying dvd set of from Funi cause it was likely done WAY before Funimation turned rotten.

 

[TheClappening]

4) Funimation has revealed itself to be an unprofessional organization run by hypocrites and a possible rapist. Its CEO lets its employees do whatever they want and has very little interest in equitable treatment. One of their own runs a casting couch. For all their complaints of harassment, they've run extremely inappropriate skits with IP they do not own. Vic got fired for a jellybean, trying to have a threesome with no one who ever reported him and allegedly pulling hair in a lobby a decade ago. Now we have affidavits sexual jokes, sexual relationships and all sorts of inappropriate behavior was common. Why was Vic singled out? Why wasn't any other male implicated if this was common?

Just a correction: he was never investigated or fired for the hair pulling. The third incident was him making out with Sara Bachmeyer. They say it was forceful. Vic says it was consensual.

And you'll notice a complete lack of complaints or affidavits from Sara. If she becomes the next Stan Dahlin I'll laugh my ass off.

 

[SpanndAxe]

Let's be real. Everyone, friends or foe, makes fun of Vic's pants.

Gay men even shudder at the unreasonable flamboyancy of Vics pants.

 

[Secret Asshole]

The "sub v. dub" debacle in general is cancerous and I don't get why anime fans can't let bygones be bygones; we learned here or in another thread recently from an insider that anime voice-actors sound weird because a lot of them don't actually enjoy their work, and that sucks. If anything, that's what more people should call for when it comes to quality dubs are of people who actually give a damn about quality, but they're unfortunately so hard to find, and a lot of them appear to have retired or died, too.

But I once came across a statement years ago (I can't remember where anymore, sadly) that said they laugh at the sub elitists who claim the Japanese has better acting because the Japanese exaggerate their acting, too. Non-fluent speakers think the Japanese sound better simply because they don't pick up the little nuances like we do with English voice-acting, such as if we can tell they're just reading a script or emoting funny, etc. Hell, Papa Franku touched upon this making fun of weeaboos who pick up Japanese through anime because that's not how the Japanese actually speak in public. The scripts are more simplified compared to one-on-one conversation.

Also there are terrible Japanese seiyuu as well. You usually can pick them out because of wooden acting and also by the amount of roles they have in anime. 'Course, that means you'll have to do some research into them to see where they came from: Yoshino from Digimon Savers, for example, is played by Yui Aragaki. Chances are high you have no clue who she is unless you live in Japan/watch a lot of Asian dramas because she's just a regular model and actress Toei decided to hire to play Yoshino, and she's fucking terrible. Yui just couldn't emote into a microphone and her monotone voice was grating on the ears. She only had one or two other anime roles elsewhere afterwards, but she's not a voice-actress. (In general, I think Savers was just a rough sit in either sub or dub, otherwise-good voice-actors such as Soichiro Hoshi just sounded off in this show.)



The entire dub is a fucking treasure, and it's a damn shame the whole show never got a proper home video release.

I just don't want Western shit infecting anime, and dubbing is where that comes in. All I hear from dubbing is changing words, censoring, all that terrible shit. Its where the normies come in as well. The only thing with subs is if they're good or bad. With this its just going to get way worse. Nobody wants anime censored and its going to come from American dubbing studios to get to the mass market. Fuck. That. Sony with its censorship standards, running an anime dubbing company? Nightmare. Eventually anime will self-censor to get to a larger audience through dubbing. No thanks. I've grown sick of Western entertainment and its cowardice, I don't need more of that from the east just because people are terrified to read.

That's weeabos. I don't pretend to be learning normal Japanese and that's fine if I don't pick up on it, because I don't want to. If I can't tell, all the fucking better. You speak like that's a negative. That's a ++. Problem is I know all about English so I can hear that shit and it makes me want to pop my fucking eardrums when I hear a vast majority of dubs. So if I can't fucking tell, good.

My problems with dubbing nowadays are far less about personal preference and far more about fears about censorship and the future of the industry. As anime gets popular, it will want to make more money. And as Hollywood caters to the Chinese market, Japan will cater to the Western. And I don't want that. Its going to get to the Western market through dubs. Like it or not. Its why I don't subscribe to crunchy roll or any other fucking anime streaming service that dubs. I want them to remain poor as shit. I'll buy the Blu-Rays to support the studios directly.

That's why I hate dubbing. Because I know where this shit leads to.

I'm really taking in the current behavior of our defendants right now, and see what'll change in their online behavior between this time and after the hearing.

Because as of now, they're behaving typically as smug and as if nothing at all is burning around them, when that's far from the case.

Nothing. Oberlin college was handed a 44 million dollar ass raping and then started shit-talking the courts involved. The amount was paired down, but their shit talking got so bad, people might think the amount they're required to pay will go right back up.

Seriously. You will literally have to beat the smug out of them. That's why they're so dangerous. There is nothing that will EVER change their minds. Reality does not exist for them. They are mentally ill authoritarians. They will never reconsider their positions because anyone who doesn't think like they do is a violent, Nazi extremist one second away from gassing the Jews. They don't see us as human. They see us as 'things'. That's why when reality kicks their teeth in, they double down and double down and double down until they look absolutely insane.

Just a correction: he was never investigated or fired for the hair pulling. The third incident was him making out with Sara Bachmeyer. They say it was forceful. Vic says it was consensual.

And you'll notice a complete lack of complaints or affidavits from Sara. If she becomes the next Stan Dahlin I'll laugh my ass off.

Sorry, the amount to keep track of is insane. Same shit. Also, didn't they have like, friendly encounters years and years and years after that?

 

[P5Fever]

People who say: "ONLY THE TRUE FANS SUPPORT ME" are losing. Its because they no longer have any sort of majority and are in the minority and are desperate to cling to any support they have. If you have mobs of people supporting you, you don't need to say it. You can see it. The reason why she's saying it, is that she doesn't see it because its not there. And she's doing anything she can to get any more people over to her side.

Ah, that makes more sense, forgive me for being exceptional and getting confused.

But yeah I completely agree. “Not A True Scotsman” is a fallacy for a reason.

 

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do they not realize how bad their outlook is on this?
not only can nick do all the legal work for himself without having to hire and pay an attorney, such a suit would also provide him with infinite content to cover on his live streams and videos, which generate tons of income for him.

so, unless they are 100% convinced that they will win in court and convince the judge to straigth up bankrupt nick, this would be a lose/lose move from them.

If I may devil's advocate here for a second:

• Nick gets sued for some stupid bullshit reason. (Doesn't have to make sense, just has to be plausable enough -- defamation, TI, theft of trade secrets, etc.)
• Suddenly, Nick is a party to the greater legal action against KickVic.
• This means that Nick discussing it on his show becomes problematic from an ethics and legal standpoint, if not a legal defense standpoint.
• They might even demand a gag order or a protection order from a judge if they go the "he's leaking our TRADE SECRETS" angle.
• Thus, they silence Nick, at least temporarily

Which is their goal. Shutting Nick up. Considering he spent last week completely destroying Ron, Funimation, and when he covers Sabat's Rape Dungeon he keeps at the Otakutron 5000 offices -- you can call it a casting couch if you want, I prefer "Rape Dungeon" -- on tonight's stream, well.

They're probably pretty damned desperate to get him to stop talking by now.

Them attempting to do so in a Federal Court would be interesting because IIRC Nick has said he hasn't taken the bar for Federal cases or ... somesuch. I don't fully understand and may be misremembering. But the takeaway I got is that a Federal Court would require he get an attorney, because Nick doesn't do federal cases.

In addition, by going federal, even if it's bullshit, they might avoid Nick's home state's Journalist Shield laws. At least temporarily -- They would no doubt try to push the case to be tried in Texas, Nick would push to have it in Minnesota, and as we've seen with Meyer vs Waid, jurisdiction games can take fucking forever.

 

[Beavis]

Wait most people who are losing say what I said or are you talking about Jamie?

Most anime fans have abandoned Jamie and Monica. The only people still supporting them are types that won’t monetarily support their work and would never go to a convention to see them.

 

[Mr. Sandwiches]

I just don't want Western shit infecting anime, and dubbing is where that comes in. All I hear from dubbing is changing words, censoring, all that terrible shit. Its where the normies come in as well. The only thing with subs is if they're good or bad. With this its just going to get way worse. Nobody wants anime censored and its going to come from American dubbing studios to get to the mass market. Fuck. That. Sony with its censorship standards, running an anime dubbing company? Nightmare. Eventually anime will self-censor to get to a larger audience through dubbing. No thanks. I've grown sick of Western entertainment and its cowardice, I don't need more of that from the east just because people are terrified to read.

That's weeabos. I don't pretend to be learning normal Japanese and that's fine if I don't pick up on it, because I don't want to. If I can't tell, all the fucking better. You speak like that's a negative. That's a ++. Problem is I know all about English so I can hear that shit and it makes me want to pop my fucking eardrums when I hear a vast majority of dubs. So if I can't fucking tell, good.

My problems with dubbing nowadays are far less about personal preference and far more about fears about censorship and the future of the industry. As anime gets popular, it will want to make more money. And as Hollywood caters to the Chinese market, Japan will cater to the Western. And I don't want that. Its going to get to the Western market through dubs. Like it or not. Its why I don't subscribe to crunchy roll or any other fucking anime streaming service that dubs. I want them to remain poor as shit. I'll buy the Blu-Rays to support the studios directly.

That's why I hate dubbing. Because I know where this shit leads to.



Nothing. Oberlin college was handed a 44 million dollar ass raping and then started shit-talking the courts involved. The amount was paired down, but their shit talking got so bad, people might think the amount they're required to pay will go right back up.

Seriously. You will literally have to beat the smug out of them. That's why they're so dangerous. There is nothing that will EVER change their minds. Reality does not exist for them. They are mentally ill authoritarians. They will never reconsider their positions because anyone who doesn't think like they do is a violent, Nazi extremist one second away from gassing the Jews. They don't see us as human. They see us as 'things'. That's why when reality kicks their teeth in, they double down and double down and double down until they look absolutely insane.



Sorry, the amount to keep track of is insane. Same shit. Also, didn't they have like, friendly encounters years and years and years after that?

Be it as it may, these three people are not Oberlin college. Their is a likelihood that they will need to pay a sum of money they cannot afford to. How that possibility doesn't have them focused on the case and not goofing off on twitter makes me really believe it's a defense mechanism. To their detriment.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Oh, there has been A LOT of toxic femininity in this case. Toxic femininity is a worldwide plague.

Wonder how Funimation views toxic feminity right about now...aw hell they probably still stand by their "ideals".

The entire MeToo movement is peak toxic femininity. What was that one chick who had a male MeToo her and literally nothing happen to her??? Can't remember her name but that shit was wild.

Dudes can't come forward about abuse like women (mostly white women too, for those virtue signaling idiots).

 

[Random Internet Person]

I would like to point out that Jamie is largely known for her roles in the more...pervy types of shows like Panty & Stocking, High School DxD, Freezing and the like. Any bets on whether she actually loves the fans of Rias Gremory? Cuz I'm pressing X to doubt on that one.

You think this KV crusade is some kind of atonement for her?

Indeed. I despise that. Cause it's a VERY disingenuous and often slanted argument. It's slightly more dumber than Anime vs Manga. It's the whole A vs B argument, it solves nothing, but try and actively stir up drama for one reason or another. It only serves to divide the community even further. This is my perspective. (Though there is one exception to the rule, ENG Dub of Yu Yu Hakusho is DEFINITELY better than the original japanese version).

ONLY thing I COULD EVER recommend still actually buying dvd set of from Funi cause it was likely done WAY before Funimation turned rotten.

When it comes to surperior dubs over subs, I’ve also heard that arguments made for Cowboy Bebop, FMA:Brotherhood, And Kira’s laugh (and it’s been said by some that Kira’s Italian laugh is even better than that).

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Most anime fans have abandoned Jamie and Monica. The only people still supporting them are types that won’t monetarily support their work and would never go to a convention to see them.

Also people loosely involved in the whole weeb industry as a whole, and some others who are part of some woke movement but have no interest in anime as a whole. I follow someone who is a manga translator who is up their ass 24-7.
And you'll find exceptional individuals like Chuck Wendig nosing around every so often.

 

[Moguro Fukuzou]

4kids wasn't completely bad, With out 4kids we wouldn't have Pirate Rap opening for one piece, or the ultimate mucle opening song.

I have very fond memories of watching 4kids dubs growing up so I've always never understood peoples hatred towards 4kids openings, most are catchy earworms I still remember. Hate how they butchered the series or their terrible dubs but you can't honestly say that the Shaman king opening is bad or any other of the various openings.

That's with all the moral busybodies. Do you think they like games, comics or movies? Fuck no. They're narcissists who feel entitled to be a part of everything. They want to be responsible for all of the content, because they feel only one voice should be heard: Theirs.

I am glad I can ignore the dubbed community as well. It was always a toxic den of little shits and prima donnas. The sad thing is you really can only go through Western companies nowadays instead of directly through Japan. I don't really want anything filtered for Western audiences, because my whole point in watching anime is that it isn't Westernized.

These faggots CONSTANTLY whine about cultural appropriation, but they're not afraid to do it to the East to 'correct' them. Their ideology is disgusting, authoritarian and thoroughly one of colonialism. They ignore minority voices that don't have their message and try to 'educate' the savage. They're nearly exactly like Victorians in their mindset. With no religious connotations. They want to impose their values of foreign cultures and entertainment. They want to impose their values on sex to the entirety of society, barring human nature.

Their ideology is inherently wrought with conflict. Because there is no middle ground. There is no agreement. The problem is that most rational people will try to reach a compromise. There is no compromise. Its never enough. There is no apologizing. You will submit with their boot on your neck and they will never release it once you let them put it there. That's what a lot of people don't understand I think, except maybe Nick and Ty, because they've been dealing with these moral absolutists. You have no choice but to destroy them. Because they will not negotiate or play fair.

Honestly these people just leave me angry.

It always amazes me how these people never actually touch on the issues that affect Japan and instead try to shape a shows message to reflect their, often american, senses and issues. There are so many interesting Japanese cultural, social, and historical nuggets placed into anime by its creators yet I often see so many of these people miss them entirely or rush to think that it's referring to Western things when they go onto their twitters or blogs. It honestly frustrates me how little these people seem to care to actually research or analyze the anime they consume, instead calling it a day at some surface level "deep post" to explain how this show is either horrible problematic or super woke. It reminds me of the time one of the various writers for ANN was writing a review for Sabagebu, a show about airsoft and school girls running around shooting each other with realistic looking guns, instead of actually reviewing the show they just used it as a soapbox to lament american gun culture.

I could rant for paragraphs on my disgust for these kinds of people but I'll keep it short for now.

The "sub v. dub" debacle in general is cancerous and I don't get why anime fans can't let bygones be bygones; we learned here or in another thread recently from an insider that anime voice-actors sound weird because a lot of them don't actually enjoy their work, and that sucks. If anything, that's what more people should call for when it comes to quality dubs are of people who actually give a damn about quality, but they're unfortunately so hard to find, and a lot of them appear to have retired or died, too.

But I once came across a statement years ago (I can't remember where anymore, sadly) that said they laugh at the sub elitists who claim the Japanese has better acting because the Japanese exaggerate their acting, too. Non-fluent speakers think the Japanese sound better simply because they don't pick up the little nuances like we do with English voice-acting, such as if we can tell they're just reading a script or emoting funny, etc. Hell, Papa Franku touched upon this making fun of weeaboos who pick up Japanese through anime because that's not how the Japanese actually speak in public. The scripts are more simplified compared to one-on-one conversation.

Also there are terrible Japanese seiyuu as well. You usually can pick them out because of wooden acting and also by the amount of roles they have in anime. 'Course, that means you'll have to do some research into them to see where they came from: Yoshino from Digimon Savers, for example, is played by Yui Aragaki. Chances are high you have no clue who she is unless you live in Japan/watch a lot of Asian dramas because she's just a regular model and actress Toei decided to hire to play Yoshino, and she's fucking terrible. Yui just couldn't emote into a microphone and her monotone voice was grating on the ears. She only had one or two other anime roles elsewhere afterwards, but she's not a voice-actress. (In general, I think Savers was just a rough sit in either sub or dub, otherwise-good voice-actors such as Soichiro Hoshi just sounded off in this show.)

Subbed vs. Dubbed is an eternal argument that will never be settled because both sides want to be "right way" to watch an anime. I myself am biased towards subs since I don't really follow the western anime scene that much and normally just watch subs since many of the shows I like never get dubs or have terrible ones. I do have several dubs that I like over the originals but mostly it's that the dub is good for a different reason.

My favorite example of this is the Devilman OVAs dub, mainly for the first one. It is a national treasure but turns the show into a great laugh with so many great quotes while the sub makes it a serious horror adaption of the manga. I love both but they have very different tones and being honest the dub isn't good as anything else but a fun time, it is in no way a good reflection of the actual OVA or Devilman as a whole.

Some choice clips for anyone who has no idea what I'm talking about when I mean the Devilman OVA dub.

 

[I can't imagine]

You think this KV crusade is some kind of atonement for her?

I wouldn't say "atonement", since she clearly likes playing very sexualized characters, and has continued to do so her entire career. I think she likes the attention it brings her, and it makes her feel good about herself. But I don't think she likes her fans.

The KV stuff is different. I believe she's involved because the others convinced her it was necessary. Not to excuse her actions, but she legit seems too dumb to plan anything like this on her own. It's more likely MoRon and Chris Sabat knew they'd need more voices and got their buddy to join the chorus.

This is all speculation on my part, obviously.

 

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Or she's just a mean, petty bitch who decided this "Vic" guy who wouldn't kiss her ass upon demand, refused to pretend she was fuckable, and couldn't read the room and kowtow to Sabat and his cabal her friends needed to die.

This shit is a lot easier to understand when you realize Marchi / Rial probably never grew emotionally past oh, 8 to 16 years old or so. They're just mean girl dipshits, but thanks to Social Media and Cancel culture they can do real damage.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Or she's just a mean, petty bitch who decided this "Vic" guy who wouldn't kiss her ass upon demand, refused to pretend she was fuckable, and couldn't read the room and kowtow to Sabat and his cabal her friends needed to die.

This shit is a lot easier to understand when you realize Marchi / Rial probably never grew emotionally past oh, 8 to 16 years old or so. They're just mean girl dipshits, but thanks to Social Media and Cancel culture they can do real damage.

I mean, if you've seen Marchi's photobucket dump, you get the feeling like she keeps trying to live like she's 18.

 

[Allanon]

So I guess the new talking point is Vic is a Trump supporter.

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Obviously the best way to prove this isn't about going after a conservative man in the industry is to flip out on the fact he's a conservative and voted for a conservative president. That'll throw 'em on the trail.

Also here's the main editor of ANN bitching about it, defending the use of the word 'faggot' despite being a faggot himself, and also going to bat for Sabat's casting couch because he probably runs one at Anime News Network himself

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Where in Chuck's affidavit does he say Vic is a 'huge Trump supporter'? All he says is that Vic suffered discrimination because of his 'support of Trump'. For all they know, that means Vic voted for Trump instead of Hillary (in California, so his vote meant nothing) and is wont to say milquetoast things like 'I just want our president to succeed, because it would be worse for everyone if he doesn't'.

I know the people involved in this push are stupid, but they're really barking up the wrong tree considering his most conservative standpoint is 'I don't like signing yaoi'.

Roundabout ways how things go, Kreepazoid Kaplan was and still is a jealous bitch who was assblasted that he was the male Kara Edwards who no one gave two shits about while Vic still got work~ He slunk away real goddamn quick once exposed, and hadn’t it not been for Sheepdog for Predators and Wifebeaters covering for that shitbird after Neil lied to protect the two cunts.

But he’s on borrowed time until then, he’s on the list and even Niosi (Who was uninvolved in this shit) got what happened to him.

Wait, was he on the staircase thing or not? I heard about his dumb accusations (and scoffed at them) before all this broke.

AFAIK Vollmer retired from voice acting in 2011. I don't know whether Sabat did anything that forced her to retire. Seems like she retired from voicing Bulma because she decided to persue bigger things.

Per Dragon Ball wiki:


Idk how accurate it is, but it should be noted that I think many Kanzenshuu mods or posters, including A particular dbz reddit moderator manage the site.

The person who might have been a casualty of the casting couch decline is Linda Young (Z Dub Frieza VA). As TheAlanEdgeHead mentions Here,


Also sort of covered here around 3 minutes in. I think she has addressed it multiple times in other panels. If you find any other clips, please link it to the farms.

I initially took it in stride, but given everything we've learnt so far, I wouldn't be surprised if Sabat did block her from the part if she said no to him or some other exec at Funi. Also, she still voices Fortune-teller Baba (who got about 2 or 3 episodes in Super with little dialogue) , so who knows.



What even is this timeline



The 2020 Olympics is still just under a year away, there's plenty of time to take the IP away if they wanted too. My guess is that if they did start discussing things with Funi, the rights might only be forfeited after episode 131 of super airs as they've already recorded lines for it or Funi will make frantic offers in order to keep it or Toei will let them keep it but with certain restrictions or rules put into place in the wake of this shitshow

EDIT:

Realized Meredith Mccoy was also not present during Kai's recording. Post on Kanzenshuu seems to explain it. Also an uncertainty. Maybe she initially turned down Sabat but then accepted his offer afterwards or she really was unavailable during Kai's recording.

Linda Young was replaced by the not-gay brother of Greg Ayres, I doubt that it has anything to do with the casting couch. It's more likely to have been influenced by what TFS was planning for Frieza (as Greg's version is almost identical to TFS' version) than anything else. She's also an older woman, so it's unlikely.

Hello, lurker for more than a thousand pages, so I guess that means I will be forever late and gay.

Pretty sure the Slapp tweet is nothing but a threat from Greg who is simply trying to make Nick reconsider going to the hearing.
It's not like Jdolf himself said anything... (or did I miss something ?)

We can't know what Jdolf has to say, because he is hiding away in a protected account he's vigilantly guarding his followers for.

Never heard of that show but it better be great to excuse that hot take.

It's pretty decent for an action romcom.

So chuck huber said that vic never voiced broly in this trailer. And i got to admit this voice sounds nothing like vic, and these scream clips are not in the movie at all.

This voice could be the backup broly after vic got fired from funimation

Does anyone have any idea who could be voicing broly in this clip

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This has been discussed before. They claim that the trailer dropped with too short notice to get Vic to do the dubbing. Supposedly Vic knew and was okay with it, but this was all second-third hand discussion. Vic wasn't involved in the discussion on Twitter about it at all. Most likely Sabat voiced Broly in the trailer, as people were asking/hoping if he was going to be Broly in the new movie, and he said it wasn't in his hands.

 

[SpanndAxe]

I wouldn't say "atonement", since she clearly likes playing very sexualized characters, and has continued to do so her entire career. I think she likes the attention it brings her, and it makes her feel good about herself. But I don't think she likes her fans.

Quick point of inquiry if I may. What do you think happens when a VA enjoys playing sexualized characters only to have hit "the wall" years ago due to age?

 

[ColtWalker1847]

The entire MeToo movement is peak toxic femininity. What was that one chick who had a male MeToo her and literally nothing happen to her??? Can't remember her name but that shit was wild.

Dudes can't come forward about abuse like women (mostly white women too, for those virtue signaling idiots).

Asia Argento. She was one of the leaders of MeToo. But statutory rape charges only apply to men, apparently.

 

[Secret Asshole]

If I may devil's advocate here for a second:

• Nick gets sued for some stupid bullshit reason. (Doesn't have to make sense, just has to be plausable enough -- defamation, TI, theft of trade secrets, etc.)
• Suddenly, Nick is a party to the greater legal action against KickVic.
• This means that Nick discussing it on his show becomes problematic from an ethics and legal standpoint, if not a legal defense standpoint.
• They might even demand a gag order or a protection order from a judge if they go the "he's leaking our TRADE SECRETS" angle.
• Thus, they silence Nick, at least temporarily

Which is their goal. Shutting Nick up. Considering he spent last week completely destroying Ron, Funimation, and when he covers Sabat's Rape Dungeon he keeps at the Otakutron 5000 offices -- you can call it a casting couch if you want, I prefer "Rape Dungeon" -- on tonight's stream, well.

They're probably pretty damned desperate to get him to stop talking by now.

Them attempting to do so in a Federal Court would be interesting because IIRC Nick has said he hasn't taken the bar for Federal cases or ... somesuch. I don't fully understand and may be misremembering. But the takeaway I got is that a Federal Court would require he get an attorney, because Nick doesn't do federal cases.

In addition, by going federal, even if it's bullshit, they might avoid Nick's home state's Journalist Shield laws. At least temporarily -- They would no doubt try to push the case to be tried in Texas, Nick would push to have it in Minnesota, and as we've seen with Meyer vs Waid, jurisdiction games can take fucking forever.

If Nick got sued in Federal or State court, he wouldn't represent himself. Lawyers don't typically do that because you need distance from your case. Nick isn't licensed to take federal cases and doesn't want to be.

Regardless, Ty has hinted he would defend Nick and knows people who would defend Nick. The problem is that YouTube is Nick's main source of income. The problem is that its very, VERY hard to make this lawsuit look like it isn't just being filed to quash speech and harm him economically. Its why he constantly refers to himself as a journalist. That's not just him inflating its ego, that's him legally defending himself. He states it because Journalists have insane first amendment protections.

If Nick was sued, they would immediately file an injunction so he could keep streaming. I imagine whatever motions to bash that lawsuit in as fast as possible would be invoked as well. I don't even think they'd let it get to jurisdiction. You can try to have it tossed if its frivolous enough. Waid is doing the jurisdictional issues to Myer to make him run out of money. Once that is settled, he'll appeal. Once that's done, he'll file his TCPA. Nick would forgo all that and try to have to lawsuit deleted post haste, with the court as punishing as possible to the litigants.

As I said, the court doesn't really like frivolous lawsuits to quash free speech or a journalist or even opinions, so filing against him would be extraordinarily stupid. The move was a very clear ploy at intimidation to keep him from coming to the hearing, to which Nick doesn't even know if he could go anyway.

Honestly these people just leave me angry.

It always amazes me how these people never actually touch on the issues that affect Japan and instead try to shape a shows message to reflect their, often american, senses and issues. There are so many interesting Japanese cultural, social, and historical nuggets placed into anime by its creators yet I often see so many of these people miss them entirely or rush to think that it's referring to Western things when they go onto their twitters or blogs. It honestly frustrates me how little these people seem to care to actually research or analyze the anime they consume, instead calling it a day at some surface level "deep post" to explain how this show is either horrible problematic or super woke. It reminds me of the time one of the various writers for ANN was writing a review for Sabagebu, a show about airsoft and school girls running around shooting each other with realistic looking guns, instead of actually reviewing the show they just used it as a soapbox to lament american gun culture.

I've got nothing but contempt for them. I'm a free speech absolutist. And I believe that the First Amendment should be applied to art, to business, to everything. It is why our society is strong, because we can say and do what we want. We can go against the current dogma without repercussions. We can have brave, new ideas that change the world. They want to take that away. They believe people should be silenced. That only one message should be heard. It infuriates me. "We know what is good for you. You don't."

Of course they do. These people are narcissists and think the world revolves around them. We're talking about people so comfortable, they can afford to bitch about entertainment on Twitter all day. They call us entitled? Hah. Get fucked. The thing is with these people, nobody listens to them except each other and companies too stupid to know better. They're idiots who live in a bubble. The sooner the bubble gets popped and people realize the consequence of ignoring them is....absolutely nothing. They can't actually do anything because the only power they have is the power you give them, the better.