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So chuck huber said that vic never voiced broly in this trailer. And i got to admit this voice sounds nothing like vic, and these scream clips are not in the movie at all.

This voice could be the backup broly after vic got fired from funimation

Does anyone have any idea who could be voicing broly in this clip


For reference compare the screams


Since he doesn't say anything in the trailer, could it be the Japanese VA Bin Shimoda edited in?
 
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So chuck huber said that vic never voiced broly in this trailer. And i got to admit this voice sounds nothing like vic, and these scream clips are not in the movie at all.

This voice could be the backup broly after vic got fired from funimation

Does anyone have any idea who could be voicing broly in this clip


For reference compare the screams

I'm usually good at IDing VAs since I actually unironically like dubs, but I need more than two guttural screams to pin the voice down.
 
Since he doesn't say anything in the trailer, could it be the Japanese VA Bin Shimoda edited in?
Shimoda's Broly doesn't match that trailer at all, might just be me tinfoiling but it legit sounds like Sabat's typical Piccolo/Vegeta/Armstrong/All Might gravel voice thrown through some filers.

 
So a thought, In Japan the US military is considered one entity for public affairs type stuff. Like if an Army guy fucks up big time basically all services fucked up big time according to the Japanese. Their "you represent the entity" type of thinking. So if the Funileaks gain enough traction in Japan, Do you think Toei will have to answer to the Government or Olympic Committee due to Goku being one of their ambassadors for the upcoming games? Since Goku will be representing Japan on a sort of official level.
 
I'm a true anime fan because I don't watch horrible, horrible fucking dubs by Americans who can't voice act for shit and make me want to put pincushions in my ears. As well as changing the dubs for a 'western' audience. Fuck that. There's a reason these people get .50 cents an hour and videogame/movie/TV voice actors make bank. Every time I listen to a dub it makes me want to kill myself because the voices are so over-dramatic and fucking terrible, with like 2 or 3 being good, which makes it worse.

Not to mention these people would LOVE to censor the fuck out of anime. So yeah, get fucked and get a lein forever you crazy dumb cunt. I'm rooting for Vic even though I never listen to dubs because these are the types that would dictate what we're allowed to watch and hear, and #metoo anyone who didn't agree. They deserve to be burned to the ground.

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Also Vic isn't a public figure, even in Anime circles because I don't listen to dubs and wouldn't have known who the fuck he ever was if he hadn't gotten sued.
“True fan” is bs. If you enjoy the medium then you’re a fan. Dub or sub. It doesn’t matter. Jamie can go screw herself with her tard gatekeeping. She and no one else gets to decide what makes me or anyone else a fan.
 
Shimoda's Broly doesn't match that trailer at all, might just be me tinfoiling but it legit sounds like Sabat's typical Piccolo/Vegeta/Armstrong/All Might gravel voice thrown through some filers.

I was thinking it was sabat, didn't seem like much of a change between Vageta and Broly, and Goku's scream was similar too.
 
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I'm a true anime fan because I don't watch horrible, horrible fucking dubs by Americans who can't voice act for shit and make me want to put pincushions in my ears. As well as changing the dubs for a 'western' audience. Fuck that. There's a reason these people get .50 cents an hour and videogame/movie/TV voice actors make bank. Every time I listen to a dub it makes me want to kill myself because the voices are so over-dramatic and fucking terrible, with like 2 or 3 being good, which makes it worse.

Not to mention these people would LOVE to censor the fuck out of anime. So yeah, get fucked and get a lein forever you crazy dumb cunt. I'm rooting for Vic even though I never listen to dubs because these are the types that would dictate what we're allowed to watch and hear, and #metoo anyone who didn't agree. They deserve to be burned to the ground.

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Also Vic isn't a public figure, even in Anime circles because I don't listen to dubs and wouldn't have known who the fuck he ever was if he hadn't gotten sued.

She's definitely got me. Аnime I've seen: the Ghost in the shell, some Miyazaki movies, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop. A long time ago, I encountered Sailor Moon, Grendeiser, Voltron, Ultraman, Pokémon, etc. I don't know if "Avatar: The Last Airbender" counts (not Japan).

In general, as far as I'm concerned, I'm not an anime fan at all. Besides, if I'm going to watch something now, I'm going to watch it with subtitles.

It's just weird why she thinks it's good. Vic has a lot of real fans standing in line for him at conventions. And she knows she can't compete here. But now he also has a massive external support group. And she won't have one. Those MeToo`s who haven't heard of this story yet won't stand up for the casting couch and leaked audio. But in our camp there will only be more people.
 
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From my own observations a lot of KV side seem to not really be fans of anime since they get upset about it so much and lack any real love for the hobby. All I see is those same people complain about how "problematic" a show is or just blindly gay ship two characters together.

Also the idea that only people that suck up to you and Monica are true anime fans is laughable at best since I doubt the vast majority of anime fans even know who you are.

Critical thinking goes against the cults teachings and is therefore banned, those that commit it will be shamed out of the community for being non-believers.

I don't know who most of these people involved even are and as much as they would like to be seen as the "voice" for a character that title will always be held by the original VAs. Even if I enjoy a dubbed series here and there it's never enough to make me look up who any of the people involved are.

I'm very glad that today it is so easy to ignore the dubbed community at large and just enjoy the relatively drama free subbed community where it's mostly people complaining about the quality of sub translation.

That's with all the moral busybodies. Do you think they like games, comics or movies? Fuck no. They're narcissists who feel entitled to be a part of everything. They want to be responsible for all of the content, because they feel only one voice should be heard: Theirs.

I am glad I can ignore the dubbed community as well. It was always a toxic den of little shits and prima donnas. The sad thing is you really can only go through Western companies nowadays instead of directly through Japan. I don't really want anything filtered for Western audiences, because my whole point in watching anime is that it isn't Westernized.

These faggots CONSTANTLY whine about cultural appropriation, but they're not afraid to do it to the East to 'correct' them. Their ideology is disgusting, authoritarian and thoroughly one of colonialism. They ignore minority voices that don't have their message and try to 'educate' the savage. They're nearly exactly like Victorians in their mindset. With no religious connotations. They want to impose their values of foreign cultures and entertainment. They want to impose their values on sex to the entirety of society, barring human nature.

Their ideology is inherently wrought with conflict. Because there is no middle ground. There is no agreement. The problem is that most rational people will try to reach a compromise. There is no compromise. Its never enough. There is no apologizing. You will submit with their boot on your neck and they will never release it once you let them put it there. That's what a lot of people don't understand I think, except maybe Nick and Ty, because they've been dealing with these moral absolutists. You have no choice but to destroy them. Because they will not negotiate or play fair.

“True fan” is bs. If you enjoy the medium then you’re a fan. Dub or sub. It doesn’t matter. Jamie can go screw herself with her tard gatekeeping. She and no one else gets to decide what makes me or anyone else a fan.

Most people who are losing say this.
 
I only want Vic-free, TRUE and HONEST anime fans to talk with me!!!

Of course, no one will show us, but it would be very interesting to see how much money she gets from her "true fans" at the same conventions where Vic is a participant. I have great suspicions that fans are waiting in line to be "harassed" by Vic, rather than talking to that diva who inserts her text into someone else's work instead of translating it.
 
Hoh it already happened.
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These cunts are so predictable you can come up with their next idiotic claim before they even make it.
 
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I'll... I'll just leave this here... Cause this lady is horrifyingly unhinged.

I would like to point out that Jamie is largely known for her roles in the more...pervy types of shows like Panty & Stocking, High School DxD, Freezing and the like. Any bets on whether she actually loves the fans of Rias Gremory? Cuz I'm pressing X to doubt on that one.
 
She's definitely got me. From the anime I watched the Ghost in the shell, some Miyazaki movies, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop. A long time ago, I encountered Sailor Moon, Grendeiser, Voltron, Ultraman, Pokémon, etc. I don't know if "Avatar: The Last Airbender" counts (not Japan).

In general, as far as I'm concerned, I'm not an anime fan at all. Besides, if I'm going to watch something now, I'm going to watch it with subtitles.

It's just weird why she thinks it's good. Vic has a lot of real fans standing in line for him at conventions. And she knows she can't compete here. But now he also has a massive external support group. And she won't have one. Those MeToo`s who haven't heard of this story yet won't stand up for the casting couch and leaked audio. But in our camp there will only be more people.

I enjoy the art style a lot, which is extremely varied compared to Western animation, which outside of the 1980s, has generally stuck to a very crude, bland, non-detailed style. Also most Western animation only falls into 2 groups: Children and Adult Comedy. There's really not much choice there.

So I say I'm a fan because I've loved it since Record of Lodoss War, Project Ako, Macross, Ghost in the Shell, Akira (I must have seen this when I was like fucking 10), Vampire Hunter D....etc. I could never gel with American voices. They were also so fucking bad, they didn't really seem to treat it seriously. Way different from Japanese voice actors. I mean when I was a kid, I had to hunt VHS tapes in stores and rental places for anything. There was literally nothing back then to guide you on what was good. Also good luck on trying to collect a whole series. That was a bitch.

She thinks its good because she's delusional. She's being reinforced by Twitter and by people who only agree with her. There's nothing outside of her bubble. Reality doesn't care about 'her truth'. In reality, I wouldn't be surprised if she was dead in the industry. Nobody wants a toxic cunt running around telling stories 20 years later. She doesn't have anybody. The only people she has are the very few sycophants who will forget her name when the case is over, and her inner circle who will likely never work in dubbing again after the Funi scandal.

Our camp grows because we can see the situation for ourselves. I mean, isn't it obvious? Just think about the case, logically:

1) Vic was unknown nearly to everyone on this forum, even those who watched Anime. I love me my Jojo, and I had no idea he was in it. Even if you listen to dubs, I highly doubt you can name the voice actor unless you're really hardcore about the character and that's a fraction. Nobody is going to know this guy except if he works local and the Starbucks barista recognizes him as the guy who 'makes Chinese cartoons'. Its not possible to view him as a celebrity. As a celebrity compared to normies? Sure. A celebrity among normies? Fuck no. Not even one among anime fans. Don't care what the court rules, no fucking way he's a public figure.

2) These 'traumatizing' allegations are decades old. The only evidence we have of them is a contradictory statement by the 'victim' and not a single, solitary police report, not any written disciplinary action, nothing. These traumatizing allegations just so happened to coincide with Vic possibly landing a directing job and the biggest opening for an anime, ever, in the US.

3) If he's attended cons with hundreds of people, why are there conflicting affidavits? If he is so sexually aggressive, why is there not one police report? I've known cases where men were sexually agressive and that shit got reported, constantly. These people had records. Not Vic. There's not a single, solitary picture in this age of a recording device on every living being, on every building and in every hallway? Not possible. The most autistic among us would have long since dug up any dirt and if he was what they say, we would have torn his spaghetti nigger ass to pieces. For fun, of course. Nothing like a little chaos for us Kiwis. We'd probably (God help us) hand that shit over to Lemoine. But here's the thing. We haven't. found. a. thing. Nothing. Nothing but vague rumors on a gossip forum. Nothing, but accusations with no proof. Why is there nothing? The truth is because there's nothing there. Vic is a handsome man. Most people weren't traumatized. Maybe uncomfortable. But making someone uncomfortable is not sexual assault, not in the eyes of the courts or public opinion of the sane.

4) Funimation has revealed itself to be an unprofessional organization run by hypocrites and a possible rapist. Its CEO lets its employees do whatever they want and has very little interest in equitable treatment. One of their own runs a casting couch. For all their complaints of harassment, they've run extremely inappropriate skits with IP they do not own. Vic got fired for a jellybean, trying to have a threesome with no one who ever reported him and allegedly pulling hair in a lobby a decade ago. Now we have affidavits sexual jokes, sexual relationships and all sorts of inappropriate behavior was common. Why was Vic singled out? Why wasn't any other male implicated if this was common?

The results don't add up to Vic doing anything worse than any of the others did. The answer is extremely, extremely simple. Vic is a good-looking man. He has the wrong politics. He has the wrong religion. He doesn't keep the right friends. He didn't kiss Sabat's ring, made a lot of money, and was in danger of threatening Sabat's hold on the studio with a director position. So there was a monetary danger. There was jealousy. And they just did not fucking like him. So he had to go.

They stabbed him in the back and thought he wouldn't resist. He did. Now its all falling apart. Their reputations are in shambles, their company is in shambles, they are most likely suffering financially. Vic can lose right now. He can lose the case this very second. It no longer matters. Ty can sleep easy knowing he fulfilled his promise to Vic's mom.

Vic, in every respect, has already won. The people who destroyed him have been exposed. Their company will never, ever be the same. Its been revealed that they're abusers themselves, disrespectful of properties they don't own. Their word has been shown to be worth absolutely nothing and no one will ever trust them again in business. His support base has grown exponentially. Theirs, if they ever had one, will move on and forget they ever existed in a few months, moving on to the next outrage of the week to get their dopamine high from.

In my mind, the war is over. The result is decided. There's only the matter now of how big of a victory it will be.

Wait most people who are losing say what I said or are you talking about Jamie?

People who say: "ONLY THE TRUE FANS SUPPORT ME" are losing. Its because they no longer have any sort of majority and are in the minority and are desperate to cling to any support they have. If you have mobs of people supporting you, you don't need to say it. You can see it. The reason why she's saying it, is that she doesn't see it because its not there. And she's doing anything she can to get any more people over to her side.
 
The "sub v. dub" debacle in general is cancerous and I don't get why anime fans can't let bygones be bygones; we learned here or in another thread recently from an insider that anime voice-actors sound weird because a lot of them don't actually enjoy their work, and that sucks. If anything, that's what more people should call for when it comes to quality dubs are of people who actually give a damn about quality, but they're unfortunately so hard to find, and a lot of them appear to have retired or died, too.

But I once came across a statement years ago (I can't remember where anymore, sadly) that said they laugh at the sub elitists who claim the Japanese has better acting because the Japanese exaggerate their acting, too. Non-fluent speakers think the Japanese sound better simply because they don't pick up the little nuances like we do with English voice-acting, such as if we can tell they're just reading a script or emoting funny, etc. Hell, Papa Franku touched upon this making fun of weeaboos who pick up Japanese through anime because that's not how the Japanese actually speak in public. The scripts are more simplified compared to one-on-one conversation.

Also there are terrible Japanese seiyuu as well. You usually can pick them out because of wooden acting and also by the amount of roles they have in anime. 'Course, that means you'll have to do some research into them to see where they came from: Yoshino from Digimon Savers, for example, is played by Yui Aragaki. Chances are high you have no clue who she is unless you live in Japan/watch a lot of Asian dramas because she's just a regular model and actress Toei decided to hire to play Yoshino, and she's fucking terrible. Yui just couldn't emote into a microphone and her monotone voice was grating on the ears. She only had one or two other anime roles elsewhere afterwards, but she's not a voice-actress. (In general, I think Savers was just a rough sit in either sub or dub, otherwise-good voice-actors such as Soichiro Hoshi just sounded off in this show.)

That ultimate muscle opening is a fucking treasure.

The entire dub is a fucking treasure, and it's a damn shame the whole show never got a proper home video release.
 
I'm really taking in the current behavior of our defendants right now, and see what'll change in their online behavior between this time and after the hearing.

Because as of now, they're behaving typically as smug and as if nothing at all is burning around them, when that's far from the case.
 
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