Sluthate.com

[mooooo]

No one cares.

You make a post, I respond to it, you act like I'm trying to draw attention to information without any kind of implicit request for it lol.

tldr even when with a triple post. there is an edit button

Ok. We're generally encouraged in work, for example, to send separate emails if we're addressing more than one topic. It's an organisational tool.

Take this from a lady, Mo*5, you're too pretentious - be humble bro.

1. I already have a wife. I don't need to be trying to impress girls.
2. The most sexually successful men around me are all arrogant douches. Therefore, your advice would be invalid even if I wanted to impress girls.

 

[Durable Mike Malloy]

I'm not interesting.

Fixed that for you.

 

[mooooo]

Maybe they seem like douches to you, but chances are every single one of them is charming one way or another. They make have a great sense of humor, an infectuous smile, a certain way they carry themselves. The guy I know who gets the most women, he's kind of a douche sometimes but he is also a funny dude and fun to hang out with. If you have these qualities, you tend to get away with more stuff. It's not unfair, it's just common sense.

They exude threatening body language, they invade other's personal space, they have a reputation for violence and alcoholism. They're not some kind of charming cad who's a bit cocky in a benevolent way.

You don't need to impress anyone, because the moment you try, you fail.

Depends on how good you are at covering the fact that you're trying to impress others.
In any case, this is why I dislike PUA. It quite possibly works, to a degree, but what's the point of success if you had to sacrifice yourself and live to please people to achieve it?

You have to be natural in the way you interact with people. These loveshy guys don't know to talk to others, I think their main issue is they don't know how to relate to another human being.
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lacking evidence

Also, you focus too much on who has or hasn't got "sexual success". You can sleep with a thousand women and still die alone, and you can sleep with only ten and find one to share the rest of your life with and be happy. It's not a competition, or a race, it's just life. And the only way to master life is to live it.

I'm not saying that I want what they have, I'm using them as a barometer of what girls find attractive. In maths, for example, we investigate the behaviour of equations by looking at the extremes of how it reacts towards infinity and towards zero. In the same way, we understand attraction more by looking at those most attractive and least attractive than looking at the moderately attractive. A guy doesn't need to be a complete asshole to get a girl, but asshole-ness is like the distilled essence of attraction to most girls.

 

[CatParty]

I'm not saying that I want what they have, I'm using them as a barometer of what girls find attractive. In maths, for example, we investigate the behaviour of equations by looking at the extremes of how it reacts towards infinity and towards zero. In the same way, we understand attraction more by looking at those most attractive and least attractive than looking at the moderately attractive. A guy doesn't need to be a complete asshole to get a girl, but asshole-ness is like the distilled essence of attraction to most girls.

you do know math cannot be applied to human personalities right?

 

[mooooo]

you do know math cannot be applied to human personalities right?

It's an analogy; it's not literal.

But technically we could apply maths. Everything in the universe is mathematical. It's just that describing brain activity mathematically in a precise way is far beyond our current abilities.

 

[CatParty]

But technically we could apply maths. Everything in the universe is mathematical. It's just that describing brain activity mathematically in a precise way is far beyond our current abilities.

and that's how someone would not get laid

 

[Positron]

I'm not saying that I want what they have, I'm using them as a barometer of what girls find attractive. In maths, for example, we investigate the behaviour of equations by looking at the extremes of how it reacts towards infinity and towards zero. In the same way, we understand attraction more by looking at those most attractive and least attractive than looking at the moderately attractive.

Is the Attraction Function differentiable everywhere in the interval (−∞, ∞)?

2. The most sexually successful men around me are all arrogant douches.

A guy doesn't need to be a complete asshole to get a girl, but asshole-ness is like the distilled essence of attraction to most girls.

The Fuckbot line has a new model?

 

[Saney]

The Fuckbot line has a new model?

He's Fuckbot-Lite.

 

[AP 297]

They exude threatening body language, they invade other's personal space, they have a reputation for violence and alcoholism. They're not some kind of charming cad who's a bit cocky in a benevolent way.


Depends on how good you are at covering the fact that you're trying to impress others.
In any case, this is why I dislike PUA. It quite possibly works, to a degree, but what's the point of success if you had to sacrifice yourself and live to please people to achieve it?

lacking evidence

I'm not saying that I want what they have, I'm using them as a barometer of what girls find attractive. In maths, for example, we investigate the behaviour of equations by looking at the extremes of how it reacts towards infinity and towards zero. In the same way, we understand attraction more by looking at those most attractive and least attractive than looking at the moderately attractive. A guy doesn't need to be a complete asshole to get a girl, but asshole-ness is like the distilled essence of attraction to most girls.

Wow, that whole comment is distilled envy, too. I find that rather than envy a person, try to find the aspects you admire in them and develop them in yourself.

The things you call being an "asshole" are confidence, charisma, presentation, and perseverance. Women are drawn to those things. Women do not like people who abuse them. Sorry to break that to you.

If you focused on those aspects rather than rely on envy, you might see where you can change. Otherwise, welcome to the Kiwi farms. We really want you to keep posting!

 

[Durable Mike Malloy]

He's Fuckbot-Lite.

This one seems to have come with the Trivers package already loaded; it's been programmed to spew bad math and unfounded assertions, assault its colleagues, and creep on students until it is no longer welcome at conferences.

 

[Cuck Norris]

2. The most sexually successful men around me are all arrogant douches. Therefore, your advice would be invalid even if I wanted to impress girls.

If you see an asshole in the morning, you've seen an asshole. If you see assholes all day, you are the asshole.

 

[24isthehighestnumber]

Fucking hell, another "women only like assholes" NiceGuy™? I think we had our share of arrogantly stated unsubstantiated claims from marjay. Granted marj's views were more extreme and pathetically transparent with regard to his violent fantasies about women, but this mooo guy is essentially spouting the same discredited shit. You'd just need to add some fschmidt dogma and a sketchy understanding of world history tainted with confirmation bias.

 

[Cuck Norris]

Why do you think I think men are entitled to sex?

I'm not entitled to a job, but I can still want one, and be upset if I fail to get one.

I think you believe men are entitled to sex because this is the "sluthate" thread and you're here to defend the site. Loveshys, Wizards, Incels, MRAs, it's all just different flavors of the same entitlement cake. It's a common theme among that whole overarching "Red Pill"-type crowd that women shouldn't have a say when it comes to sex, and men are entitled to it simply by existing. As for the second part, business relationships aren't really comparable to interpersonal relationships. People don't go into relationships with expectations like "if you take out the trash, help clean the house, and go to work everyday I will give you a salary of 4.5 vaginas a week". I've literally never negotiated a relationship. I've negotiated a salary.

 

[Saney]

@mooooo, what's your opinion on Fschmdit?

 

[WaterMoccasin]

I think it's one thing to say that jerks are more successful with women than is desirable, but it's quite another to say that they're successful because they're jerks. And even if it were true that jerks get women because they're jerks, that would mean women aren't worth it as wives or sex objects. It would be like a starving person eating food they know is poisoned because they see it as better than nothing. The whole Sluthate thing is just the sourest of grapes.

 

[melty]

This is a flawed comparison, because evopsych isn't about a detailed understanding about the mechanisms behind psychology. In computer terms, evopsych is like finding Microsoft Word and saying "I bet this is here because people want to use their computer for word processing". It just identifies a trait and makes deductions about why that trait is there, which factors pushed us in this direction. What you're talking about is more like the programming behind the program. Evopsych doesn't attempt to explain such things. Why do we have legs? Probably, in large part, to walk. How do legs function biochemically? Don't ask me.

It's one thing to make "deductions, " it's another thing to take what amounts to guesswork in an unfalsifiable and brand spanking new field and applying it to your life and your relationship decisions. That's just autistic.
Evolutionary psychology is basically taking the shaky foundation that's all the bad stuff in psychology (see http://www.arachnoid.com/trouble_with_psychology/index.html) and trying to layer stuff we don't know a lot about (early human evolution, suspiciously devoid of current work in anthropology) on top of it. People take this seriously, somehow.
Don't get me wrong, it is absolutely a field worth investigating! It needs to be done. But it's no more a guide to understanding the human brain than Freud's work was.
Again, I find it really fucking obnoxious that ~real~ scientists (like physicists) shat on Psychology for YEARS and suddenly EvPsych comes along and they get to pretend like it's worth something now. Evpsych is just drawing different conclusions from the same damn studies they were rejecting all along! Making up scientific explanations for research produced in a field that is beyond flawed doesn't magically make it more scientific. It doesn't help that people are so readily accepting of this because so much of it explains "common sense" knowledge (like women love jerks) when science-minded people should really know better, especially someone with a physics degree.

Edit: this article is ok http://www.newsweek.com/can-we-blame-our-bad-behavior-stone-age-genes-80349
Though in some areas it suffers from a similar "same-study syndrome" and ignores the larger problems in the field of psychology.

 

[MACH-IV]

I think you believe men are entitled to sex because this is the "sluthate" thread and you're here to defend the site. Loveshys, Wizards, Incels, MRAs, it's all just different flavors of the same entitlement cake. It's a common theme among that whole overarching "Red Pill"-type crowd that women shouldn't have a say when it comes to sex, and men are entitled to it simply by existing. As for the second part, business relationships aren't really comparable to interpersonal relationships. People don't go into relationships with expectations like "if you take out the trash, help clean the house, and go to work everyday I will give you a salary of 4.5 vaginas a week". I've literally never negotiated a relationship. I've negotiated a salary.

I know this a thread about incel people, but I wanted to say that incels have a pretty extreme view that isn't representative of MRA/PUA/etc stuff you mentioned. I'm not trying to get back into this convo because I really can't stand up for obnoxious, clueless posters like moooo and I have never, even once in my life browsed the LS forum, or identified with their culture but it is not a common theme in MRA, even PUA culture that men feel entitled to sex. That is only the very small minority. The first time I've ever heard that claim was ITT.

Most guys who get involved with MRA/PUA/red pill type stuff are simply looking for answers from a different perspective after feeling disillusioned with mainstream "feel good" advice. Some of those guys end up crawling into the deeper conspiracy-type mentality and only leave their computer to grab a new cum rag, but the majority find what they need and use it as a springboard towards positive improvement. You can forever think it is all negative but it isn't, and I bet it has helped more men than it' has hurt. You'll believe what you want, and say what you want, but I think it's wrong to group incels with that other stuff. That's like using Soulja Boy as proof all music is garbage.

inb4 meowth calls me a virgin and gets 30 upvotes.

 

[AnOminous]

Most guys who get involved with MRA/PUA/red pill type stuff are simply looking for answers from a different perspective after feeling disillusioned with mainstream "feel good" advice.

Well, from what I've seen, sites like sluthate are reflective of the general phenomenon, and their wiki proudly lists Elliot Rodger as their "literature."

I'll grant that feel good advice, it ain't, but nobody made them choose the incel version of the Unabomber Manifesto as their creed.

 

[MACH-IV]

Well, from what I've seen, sites like sluthate are reflective of the general phenomenon, and their wiki proudly lists Elliot Rodger as their "literature."

I'll grant that feel good advice, it ain't, but nobody made them choose the incel version of the Unabomber Manifesto as their creed.

Yea it's messed up, but it's also the very far end of the spectrum.
From what you've seen it seems like it's all bad and that's understandable because nobody talks about the positives. It really doesn't need to leave their specific forums. Nobody can identify with the positives until they honestly seek them out.

 

[Surtur]

Why can't people keep their autism out of this thread? Explain that shit to me?!