Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

Scott's tweets are vomit inducing, and so are the responses. I usually don't wish for anyone to get falsely metoo'd, but today I kinda do.
Agreed. The guy's body isn't even cold and yet we've got a business partner already writing his tell all about how bad he was (wow some temper prone outbursts big deal).

I dunno I guess in the #MeToo era attacking people is more important than respecting those who cannot talk back. Kiwifarms is more respectful to deceased lolcows than these "enlightened indie artists" are.
 
For those who don't know what Scott looks like and his fat cow troon of a wife or partner or whatever the fuck she is. Here they are.
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I should warn you all, they both look like twins trooning the fuck out.
 
I decided to revisit the Newsweek article I posted on page 697, to see if they posted an update or deleted the comments section. It's kind of ghoulish now in light of recent developments:
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Holowka has not posted his own statement on social media, and he could not be reached for comment by Newsweek.

*days before Alec commits suicide* "Hi, this is Hayley Prokos, from Newsweek. Yes, Newsweek. Care to comment on how big of a piece of shit you feel like having abused Zoe Quinn? I'm writing a hit-piece on your dumb ass and would love it if you had a sword you could give me to skewer you on."

OF COURSE HE DIDN'T RESPOND FOR COMMENT YOU CUNT. YOU STRESSED HIM OUT SO MUCH HE KILLED HIMSELF.

No retraction or update to the story so far, other than the comments:
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So yeah, it's worth noting that this wasn't just mean tweets being sent to a mentally ill person, it was a mainstream news story in publications that are known for their newsstand presence. That's deep outreach, the kind that follows your career and haunts your business dealings forever after.
 
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I'm gonna go against the grain here, even McMillen who otherwise gets away with saying whatever he wants and doesn't seem to be that bothered by indie clique is saying Alec was unhinged, he probably was.
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I know a lot await Zoe's downfall, but I don't think blaming her for Alex's suicide makes sense, he had enough issues on his own, and it wasn't merely Zoe he affected.

On other hand, this is still a great teaser of what awaits her, yet another abuser. They were birds of a feather and their fates won't differ.
 
I'm gonna go against the grain here, even McMillen who otherwise gets away with saying whatever he wants and doesn't seem to be that bothered by indie clique is saying Alec was unhinged, he probably was.
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I know a lot await Zoe's downfall, but I don't think blaming her for Alex's suicide makes sense, he had enough issues on his own, and it wasn't merely Zoe he affected.

On other hand, this is still a great teaser of what awaits her, yet another abuser. They were birds of a feather and their fates won't differ.
He had his own issues yes, but we are all arguing that Zoe was the last straw for him.
 
I'm gonna go against the grain here, even McMillen who otherwise gets away with saying whatever he wants and doesn't seem to be that bothered by indie clique is saying Alec was unhinged, he probably was.
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I know a lot await Zoe's downfall, but I don't think blaming her for Alex's suicide makes sense, he had enough issues on his own, and it wasn't merely Zoe he affected.

On other hand, this is still a great teaser of what awaits her, yet another abuser. They were birds of a feather and their fates won't differ.
I was already accepting that Alec was probably an emotional train wreck and hard to work with, but I'll believe anything Edmund says. The problem remains however; Chelsea was a dumb fucking cunt to name Alec and rake him over the coals with her fucking clique of journalist friends, YEARS AFTER THE FACT WHEN ALEC ISN'T EVEN RELEVANT TO ANYONE, supposedly knowing he was a known suicide-baiter & the risk in doing so.
 
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he had enough issues on his own, and it wasn't merely Zoe he affected.
Most super stable geniuses don't kill themselves on a friday evening, but I feel like the fact that he lost his job, his reputation, support from his friends and his family in a week affected him. And without Zoe going on social media saying "Alec 10 years ago was an abusive boyfriend" nothing of that would have happened.
 
He had his own issues yes, but we are all arguing that Zoe was the last straw for him.
I get that, it's just I don't get this attempt at trying to make him look like a sympathetic victim, ultimately he was little different from her, and I wouldn't show that much sympathy for her when she'll inevitably fall from grace, and will get trampled and condemned similarly.
 
I'm gonna go against the grain here, even McMillen who otherwise gets away with saying whatever he wants and doesn't seem to be that bothered by indie clique is saying Alec was unhinged, he probably was.
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I know a lot await Zoe's downfall, but I don't think blaming her for Alex's suicide makes sense, he had enough issues on his own, and it wasn't merely Zoe he affected.

On other hand, this is still a great teaser of what awaits her, yet another abuser. They were birds of a feather and their fates won't differ.
Fair enough point, but why keep working with such a disturbed individual then?

Alec's accusers are all treating him as some sort of Gaming Rock Star, but he merely had two successful games (Aquaria and Night in the Woods) and then made the soundtracks to a couple games.
 
Quinn has more in common with Weinstein than any indie dev, they're both untouchable and have all the power in situations.

How the fuck can two people, who have both separately made games about dealing with mental illness, not know how to help or handle someone who’s dealing with mental illness. Fucking hypocrites, that’s what I say.
He was the wrong kind of mentally ill to them.
 
Fair enough point, but why keep working with such a disturbed individual then?

Alec's accusers are all treating him as some sort of Gaming Rock Star, but he merely had two successful games (Aquaria and Night in the Woods) and then made the soundtracks to a couple games.

That's still two more successful games than the average indie dev, though. As I mentioned earlier, despite the fact that under his own admission Alec was mental, Scott still envied him.

EDIT: Reminder that Chelsea only has a single game under her belt, and it can only barely called thus.
 
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