Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

[Clop]

As soon as the landwhale he calls his wife gets fed up of him.

I give it up to 6 months or so.

If they're both as incompetent at game development as was suggested earlier in this thread (basically completely out of their league without Alec) and especially with this publicity crushing down on a popular new IP, then they're sure as hell not sticking together because of financial stability.

As of this year he's doing a new project with someone else, and I hope he eats shit.

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"Creative director/writer" yeah, if his reputation is fucked by this event then he's screwed in the job market.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Longtime lurker, first time posting. Glad to finally join and I hope I can contribute something of value here to the Farms!

Thanks for indulging me.

I'm starting to believe that Zoe Quinn is the autism whisperer or some sort of autism uranium in the way she turns regular autism into weaponsgrade autism.

 

[Urban Superstition]

Fair enough point, but why keep working with such a disturbed individual then?

Alec's accusers are all treating him as some sort of Gaming Rock Star, but he merely had two successful games (Aquaria and Night in the Woods) and then made the soundtracks to a couple games.

In Scott's case, he said that they had already invested heavily into NITW by the time the worst of Alec's personality/mood issues surfaced and would be in debt if they had to start over. The kickstarter was such a success that NITW became his full-time job. He could have kicked Alec off the project, but then the team would have to hire another programmer, in addition to being afraid of firing Alec while he was mentally unstable, since it has been reported that he would sometimes threaten suicide.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Whats with those indie game soydevs anyway? Why do they all have to be fucked up bug people semi-personalities? It seems there are like ten, tops, video games made by indies which are playable/functional/actually pretty great.

Same reason why all youtubers and twitch streamers are so toothless nowadays. Because those that aren't have been filtered out.

 

[BananaBlue]

I'm gonna go against the grain here, even McMillen who otherwise gets away with saying whatever he wants and doesn't seem to be that bothered by indie clique is saying Alec was unhinged, he probably was.

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I know a lot await Zoe's downfall, but I don't think blaming her for Alex's suicide makes sense, he had enough issues on his own, and it wasn't merely Zoe he affected.

On other hand, this is still a great teaser of what awaits her, yet another abuser. They were birds of a feather and their fates won't differ.

She literally made all this shit publicly and turned Alec into a target. She has thousands of retarded followers that would do anything she asks and will seek and destroy anyone deemed a threat to Zoe.
You need to be a fucking retard and naive to think her intention wasn't to make him a target and be harassed by her followers.

She knew what she was doing. She did that shit many times already, letting her hounds devour whoever displeases her. She just didn't expect her harassment to cause the death of someone.
Again, ironic, for someone that was fighting online harassment (lol) she is one of the people to cause a suicide due to online harassment.

 

[Agent of Z.O.G.]

Man who got sued by Maddox and occasionally has Dear Leader on his show, Dick Masterson had an interesting reaction during the latest episode of his podcast, if any paypigs can get the clip from the video version that would be nice.

 

[Clop]

In Scott's case, he said that they had already invested heavily into NITW by the time the worst of Alec's personality/mood issues surfaced and would be in debt if they had to start over. The kickstarter was such a success that NITW became his full-time job. He could have kicked Alec off the project, but then the team would have to hire another programmer, in addition to being afraid of firing Alec while he was mentally unstable, since it has been reported that he would sometimes threaten suicide.

It would've been safer to kick him off the project, but when Zoe started broadcasting attention to them in loudspeakers, it was too late to do anything without becoming the villain. Somehow Scott still would rather blame the guy who killed himself, not himself for being so fucking spineless to not take charge and kick Alec off, and not Zoe for putting extra pressure on the guy who is threatening to jump. Where the hell was Scott's fear of Alec losing his shit when he was under even more pressure? He was more scared of the feminist hit squad than he was of Alec, that's what made him finally kick him off. A man's hollowed out shell filled with soy, that's Scott.

 

[PlasticOwls]

Alec's accusers are all treating him as some sort of Gaming Rock Star, but he merely had two successful games (Aquaria and Night in the Woods) and then made the soundtracks to a couple games.

Dunno about everyone else, but Night in the Woods had a soundtrack that just vibed with me, and I enjoyed that, ya feel?

Also, Alec was the only one who made the game function. So there's that.

 

[Drunk and Pour]

I'm gonna go against the grain here, even McMillen who otherwise gets away with saying whatever he wants and doesn't seem to be that bothered by indie clique is saying Alec was unhinged, he probably was.

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I know a lot await Zoe's downfall, but I don't think blaming her for Alex's suicide makes sense, he had enough issues on his own, and it wasn't merely Zoe he affected.

On other hand, this is still a great teaser of what awaits her, yet another abuser. They were birds of a feather and their fates won't differ.

I don't know all the ins and outs, but was it not her directly claiming sexual assault that caused him to be ostracized? Lots of people are assholes and through temper tantrums. Let the community decide who would and won't work with him on projects. Quinn labeling him a sexual abuser of women makes him unemployable, and she knows it and he knew it. Even if someone was willing to put up with his shit, they couldn't because then their head would be on the chopping block.

 

[Snes9x]

I'm gonna go against the grain here, even McMillen who otherwise gets away with saying whatever he wants and doesn't seem to be that bothered by indie clique is saying Alec was unhinged, he probably was.

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I know a lot await Zoe's downfall, but I don't think blaming her for Alex's suicide makes sense, he had enough issues on his own, and it wasn't merely Zoe he affected.

On other hand, this is still a great teaser of what awaits her, yet another abuser. They were birds of a feather and their fates won't differ.

The most likely case is that Zoe was the straw that broke the camel's back. What makes me really curious is all these people who are coming out of the wood works to talk about their experiences with Alec after his death instead of directly discussing it with him. The way that they describe their experiences seems like he was some manipulative and abusive person. Though now everyone knows that he wasn't kidding about suicide and he wasn't trying to be abusive.

But a lot of people's issue(s) with this situation is how Zoe is making her experiences incredibly public instead of reporting it to the authorities. And instead of his friends and colleagues attempting to at least try to get him some time to explain his side of the story (or even try to help him with his mental problems), they decided to cast him aside because someone else accused him of sexual assault. This is especially amplified by the fact that his friends are all repeating the same message about him being mentally unhinged and threatening suicide on multiple occasions.

This is also disregarding other similar situations like with ProJared and Slazo.

 

[X Prime]

Somehow Scott still would rather blame the guy who killed himself, not himself for being so fucking spineless to not take charge and kick Alec off, and not Zoe for putting extra pressure on the guy who is threatening to jump. Where the hell was Scott's fear of Alec losing his shit when he was under even more pressure? He was more scared of the feminist hit squad than he was of Alec, that's what made him finally kick him off. A man's hollowed out shell filled with soy, that's Scott.

Scott couldn't kick Alec off even if he really wanted to. Alec is the person who did the dialogue editor, other programming tasks, and the music, two very important parts of the game. You can't remove the technical talent without a replacement.

 

[Water-T]

Also, if they were planning to make second game, even getting ready to start deving it, then why suddenly kick Alec out in drop of a hat?

Maybe Alec was tired of doing all the work and splitting the credit and profits with them, and was going to flounce with full ownership of the IP? With Alec gone, the IP is all theirs and they have a nice juicy sob story sure to bring the pitybux rolling in.

 

[Clop]

Scott couldn't kick Alec off even if he really wanted to. Alec is the person who did the dialogue editor, other programming tasks, and the music, two very important parts of the game. You can't remove the technical talent without a replacement.

Yes he could've. The game was kickstarted for chump change, if he showed the progress, informed people that they were having a crisis because of a programmer's health being at risk, he would've been showered with money. That shit is common in indie. That money could've gone to hire someone to pick up where Alec left off, even if it would've been a bit bumpy. Hell, even if that wasn't the case, was his game more important than someone's life if he seriously believed Alec was going to off himself?

Scott didn't do that because Scott was too scared of Alec and the extra work, and he cared more about his own butt, his own money and his own reputation, which shows in spades when he kicked Alec off fucking immediately as soon as it wasn't just his own health on the line.

I can imagine him penning a reply to such accusations right now; "You don't know what I did for Alec, you don't know what I went through" etc. etc. but he'll never admit to anyone, least of all himself, that if he gave a shit about his health he would've either kicked him off the project to get him proper help ages ago, or stuck to his side when Zoe came screeching through the window. He did neither, because he's a coward.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Maybe Alec was tired of doing all the work and splitting the credit and profits with them, and was going to flounce with full ownership of the IP? With Alec gone, the IP is all theirs and they have a nice juicy sob story sure to bring the pitybux rolling in.

I don't think it will work.

First off he's effectively permanently tarred everyone involved with killing himself. These were all people who wanted to end cyberbullying and other e-activist bullshit who wound up actually doing it and accomplishing what they claimed to be against with the end result of the bullied person killing themselves. So now any claims of them being harassed and demanding pity bucks is kinda falling on deaf ears. Especially since that many of the NITW fandom are people who related to things like deep emotional scars and mental illness, they are kind of not taking it well what happened to Alec/Alex.

Secondly while the dude's sister may have thrown him under the bus, his parents certainly didn't. There could be more to the story with them. I mean when Vilerat was killed in Benghazi it was his mother who kept up the fight trying to get answers.

 

[ElAbominacion]

This was retweeted by Heart Machine/Alyx Preston:
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Interesting to hear another retelling from a former male roommate, parroting the narrative. But even better, it's always nice to see Google dangerhairs policing pronouns and autistically remembering her enby tumblr posts as thoroughly as we do.

Also decided to check some of Chelsea's older neglected sites, looks like she's not as thorough as she'd like to think she is in shutting down comment sections:
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hmm, 140 comments on a shit comic that was largely ignored?

Spoiler: Let's Play SPOT THE FALSE FLAGS

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Enjoy seeing these comments cited as "the harrassment she endured while bringing Alec's awful crimes to light" in all the usual rags when she gets around to stealing our archives of it & sends them off to Klepek and crew.

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Oh hi Chelsea, nice job locking down facebook after I already got everything.
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The amount of Brazilians in there makes me proud of my country.

 

[Frosted Snowflakes]

 

[0xBADB17E5]

"Before I even start talking about giving you a recap of what happened in the last episode of Indie Dev Suicide Squad Z, don't forget to like and subscribe! "

Also, hi Jeremy, you can actually get to the point faster in your videos, you know. They're probably getting demonetized anyway, so what gives?

 

[Stab You in the Back]

The way that they describe their experiences seems like he was some manipulative and abusive person. Though now everyone knows that he wasn't kidding about suicide and he wasn't trying to be abusive.

He sounds like any other bipolar, drug addict, alcoholic or generally self-destructive person, though. Most people will want to avoid him or sever ties, but the humane thing to do is to do so privately and not broadcast their grievances to the world. Relationship drama is not a #metoo story and it, nor any of the other instances of so-called abuse, should never have been made public.

 

[Snes9x]

He sounds like any other bipolar, drug addict, alcoholic or generally self-destructive person, though. Most people will want to avoid him or sever ties, but the humane thing to do is to do so privately and not broadcast their grievances to the world. Relationship drama is not a #metoo story and it, nor any of the other instances of so-called abuse, should never have been made public.

Most definitely, but it seems like nobody respects this notion.

 

[mrdk_04]

I'm beyond disgusted with this situation.

They didn't warn eachother, they fucking dropped a close associate & colleague over unproven accusations.

"That they still cared for him... that they believed he could do better"
BETTER?! Is that why they had no qualms about using mob rule to target Alec?
He was a part of their circle, clearly shared their morals & politics, what reason was there for this to have blown up like it did?
These fucks are all about self-care and mental health, yet when push comes to shove, they're content to use nukes when nerf darts would have stones.

"Wish he were still alive", I'm certain they didn't desire his death, they just thought believing a supposed victim and immediately denouncing someone who they knew was prone to suicide was the right course of action.

It's clearly all those chuds just want to start GG again, isn't it? It's never your fault, never your mistake,
never your fuckup.

Go back to playing pretend activist and "serious thinker" on your YT, Innuendo.
Take care to never grow beyond the hugbox and do make another video series about why people radicalize and get angry at this kind of shit, maybe you'll hit the point eventually, you unbelievably myopic individual.

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