Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[ES 195]

Well based on Nick’s current tweets i’m Guessing Ty did NOT have everyone present for their notarization...

I’m not comfortable with this at all. First time I’ve felt this way in the case.

The cynical part of me thinks that Ty was going to try and sneak the notarizing by until Nick brought up that is was dumb and unnecessary. Hopefully we get an explanation of this mess tonight.

 

[Legioneer]

Well based on Nick’s current tweets i’m Guessing Ty did NOT have everyone present for their notarization...

I’m not comfortable with this at all. First time I’ve felt this way in the case.

Nick often plays his own game. Including game with Lemoine and T. Greg. That is, if he voiced some information, it means clarity will appear. But he can easily criticize Lemoine's approach and later all the situations that he considered can be purely hypothetical.

I will not deny that I now have certain doubts in Ty. But Nick can intentionally run the disinformation because he won't want to reveal the cards before the hearing. He won't lie directly. But he can persuade the audience that a date mistake is not a fraud. And Ty in court can then say that all the dates are correct and there are no mistakes at all.

 

[Padoru]

So, I've got something to add to this discussion.
Ty contacted me via email on 7/27 providing me with Faisal's affadavit and requesting "Could you read it and correct the untrue parts?" and giving me some info about getting things notarized in Japan. He then went on to state "My understanding is that you have to call for an appointment and time is short for us." about getting an item notarized in Japan.

I responded 7/28 with his requested info.
I received no response from him, which I'd expected to come quite quickly given his comment about time being short for them.
I reached out to him again on 8/2. He responded on 8/3 stating "...I’ll send you a proposal next week. "

I heard nothing from him. I reached out to him AGAIN on 8/20.
Again, I received no reply until 8/28 when he wrote me and said "Will be sending the email in a few minutes. We don’t have to have a notary; I’ll use a different procedure.... Oh and please get it back to us ASAP if you can. Originally, I wasn’t going to use your affidavit in the upcoming hearings. But I changed my mind after watching the livestream. Thanks again for your help."
Now, I complied the same day, 8/28 and provided the requested information.

I then spoke to Vic on 8/29, and during our conversation this came out ...View attachment 921281

So... Take that for what you will.

frankly that puts a bit of a bad light on Ty for me right now. With this possible screwup and him telling vic vastly different things than you this is looking weird

 

[Your Average Soyboy]

Well based on Nick’s current tweets i’m Guessing Ty did NOT have everyone present for their notarization...

I’m not comfortable with this at all. First time I’ve felt this way in the case.

If true, this is absolutely horrible. At best, it's gross negligence. While this doesn't automatically lose him the case, it's a huge blow to his credibility as a lawyer, especially since from what we've seen this case hasn't really necessitated a need to be slimy like this.

 

[Legioneer]

frankly that puts a bit of a bad light on Ty for me right now. With this possible screwup and him telling vic vastly different things than you this is looking weird

This part is perfectly normal.
That is, it means that there is a bigger mess in the BHBH than we thought. But it's not an indication that Ty is lying to Vic.
It's a sign that he can't handle holding all the ends in his hands.
He missed a letter from Erica and forgot about her. Then he told Vic that he hadn't seen her letter.

 

[EriMin]

This part is perfectly normal.
That is, it means that there is a bigger mess in the BHBH than we thought. But it's not an indication that Ty is lying to Vic.
It's a sign that he can't handle holding all the ends in his hands.
He missed a letter from Erica and forgot about her. Then he told Vic that he hadn't seen her letter.

But he confirmed in an email to me that he'd received my response...

 

[ES 195]

This part is perfectly normal.
That is, it means that there is a bigger mess in the BHBH than we thought. But it's not an indication that Ty is lying to Vic.
It's a sign that he can't handle holding all the ends in his hands.
He missed a letter from Erica and forgot about her. Then he told Vic that he hadn't seen her letter.

It's shitty but it's not like this is the only case going on at BHBH. They're probably pretty busy.
Still this doesn't look good.

I'm just glad no ones sitting around making up excuses for Ty like the threadnaught does for their hack lawyers.

 

[Darksydepickle]

I'm... not even angry. Just extremely disappointed in Ty.

It'd be so depressing if Vic lost because of Ty. The case was looking brightier and brightier for Vic, with all the information leaking and coming up about the den of snakes he was working with, only for his lawyer to start fucking up.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Oh, it just hit me.

We're at the "concern trolls start being very concerned" stage of this internet shitstorm.

Got it. Should have recognized it earlier today from all the times it was tried in KIA. Anyway, carry on.

 

[troondetector]

frankly that puts a bit of a bad light on Ty for me right now. With this possible screwup and him telling vic vastly different things than you this is looking weird

I can understand not telling a client exactly which way you're going until you've finalized the direction you're going on something like this. You don't necessarily want to talk to them about every possibility you're entertaining, and if you are thinking of changing your mind on something you discussed with them earlier, you're not going to tell them until a new plan is solid and you have a compelling reason to.

The part about missing the e-mail AND getting back to her late stands out to me more. It's just one more on a growing list of sloppy goofs, which, while are going to happen in things this large, seem to be happening more frequently. Missing an e-mail from a potential affiant on it's own is a goof but understandable. I get that in real world how the soup gets made in any industry is usually messy, but this raises eyebrows on just how messy the kitchen is.

Also, I have to think, how hard would Nick clown on this if it were J Sean?

 

[Markorian]

Oh, it just hit me.

We're at the "concern trolls start being very concerned" stage of this internet shitstorm.

Got it. Should have recognized it earlier today from all the times it was tried in KIA. Anyway, carry on.

I mean, there definitely is a reason to be concerned. No matter how you look at it, Ty screwed up. The depth and severity of his screwup is still in the air, and depending on that, it could have potentially large ramifications for the case. It's outside all of our spheres of influence though, so naturally, people are concerned. We've all sunk a lot of free time just keeping up with this case, so the mere chance of it all going up in smoke due to a last minute procedural error, even if it's a minimal chance, is a reasonable concern.
My main hope is that Friday evening, we're all laughing that we ever thought this was an issue, but none of us here can say that for certain right now.

 

[quickthrowaway]

Oh, it just hit me.

We're at the "concern trolls start being very concerned" stage of this internet shitstorm.

Got it. Should have recognized it earlier today from all the times it was tried in KIA. Anyway, carry on.

I don't think it's concern trolling. I just think it's people who are freaking out like headless chickens when all the info still isn't available.

For as big and bad as the farms are made it to be, it's userbase is more temperamental than anything.

 

[RodgerDodger]

It's never a dull day in Weeb Wars! Much like the clap, the gift that keeps on giving.

At this point I don't think anybody would blame Chupp if he just sentenced all attorneys involved to five years in jail, and told the litigants to take it to Fight Club.

 

[Legioneer]

But he confirmed in an email to me that he'd received my response...

So he just forgot. I'm not going to justify him here. It just depends first of all on how people organize their processes.
If people answer the mail from the phone, they often forget that the conversation took place. If they don't read the mail from the phone and on the fly, they usually remember it much better.
Actually I personally got used that to certain people in the moment of an overload of their brain the information always should be duplicated on several channels. And if necessary, you have to remind them of yourself 3-4 times.

This is typical for very sloppy people, or for any ordinary person, if at some point he was under too much pressure. When you need to keep 4-5 independent processes in your head at the same time. This does not justify such people at all. But it just happens. Even with the best.

And in this situation it can explain a lot. If the rest of the case Ty isn't gonna be like that, it means he had that moment in august-september. He won't justify himself and will not explain it to the people around him, especially not in public - it's not right. You owe people an apology, but you shouldn't make excuses. If you screwed up, you screwed up. He will just silently take a beating, because he deserves it. If he is smart. And then he'll try to rehabilitate himself.

The fact that he was involved in Nick's streams isn't that revealing either. The brain did not get tired in the same way as the muscles. It wouldn't have been better if he had spent the same amount of time at work. If you are physically tired, at some point you will fall. If your brain is tired, at some point you will start to get stupid and your memory will start to fail.

 

[BlehFail.451]

But he confirmed in an email to me that he'd received my response...

You don't think there was a potential miscommunication somewhere along the way? It is odd, but it sounds closer to some things were forgotten than something malicious or untoward was happening.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

Looks like Nick's argument is that there was no intent to the fraud and it was an honest mistake, which is fine or whatever, but man filing like that, man I'm not sure if I agree that there's no intent there.

Regardless, Ty's notary commission should be revoked.

 

[Nontransferable]

Ty was initially short on time with the hearing coming up on August 8th, but after he got that month-long extension on August 1st, it is a head-scratcher as to why he blew off Erica or how these last-minute errors appeared. Nick had bragged that Ty had time for trial and a stream in the days before their deadline. Chuck Huber stuck his neck out for Vic in a potentially career ending move, only to have his testimony immediately withdrawn. Unless he was told that was part of their strategy, that would feel like a gut punch.

 

[EriMin]

You don't think there was a potential miscommunication somewhere along the way? It is odd, but it sounds closer to some things were forgotten than something malicious or untoward was happening.

I've no idea. I just know that he told Vic that he never received the email, and told me he did. Vic seemed to be of the understanding that my statement would be included originally, but Ty said he wasn't going to include it until after the Hei interview.

I can't ascribe any intentions to those statements.

And really, in the scheme of things, my declaration has zero bearing on the case, and likely wasn't even necessary because they likely would have gotten Faisal's affadavit stricken. That and it wasn't even part of the original filing.

I'm simply becoming worried because first I find out Vic and I got conflicting stories from Ty. And then there's the business with the notarizations. I'm a little closer to this than most of you because he's my friend IRL.

And I imagine now I'll get a message asking me to "stop talking about it" again. -_- but Freedom for Speech, and all that stuff.

 

[Imperial Agent]

Yeah, this is a bridge too far for me to take on good faith.

It’s either an integrity issue (doesn’t take the Notary Oath of Office seriously, if y’all don’t care about that more power to you, but I personally care if my lawyers takes their oaths seriously) or a competency issue (somehow didn’t understand the straight forward Notary rules?) or both.

Did he lose the case? No. Does it still matter? It does to me, and very well could matter to the judge.

I’ve given Ty and Co. the benefit of the doubt on everything up until this point, this definitely will leave me wary in the future.

 

[Steve Smyff]

Ty was initially short on time with the hearing on August 8th, but after he got that month-long extension on August 1st, it is a head-scratcher as to why he blew off Erica or how these last-minute errors appeared. Nick had bragged that Ty had time for trial and a stream in the days before their deadline. Chuck Huber stuck his neck out for Vic in a potentially career ending move, only to have his testimony immediately withdrawn.

my best guess - the affiants he wanted (Huber basically) decided at the last minute, and they had to work around that.

2nd best guess - they were waiting to decide how far to go with the Sabat stuff.