Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[RodgerDodger]

Looks like Nick's argument is that there was no intent to the fraud and it was an honest mistake, which is fine or whatever, but man filing like that, man I'm not sure if I agree that there's no intent there.

Regardless, Ty's notary commission should be revoked.

Which is a fair call. But what impact does this have on the defendants? How is this in any way prejudicial? For what reason should such a technical error or stupidity be taken out on the client or the clients cause of action?

 

[HTTP Error 404]

I've no idea. I just know that he told Vic that he never received the email, and told me he did. Vic seemed to be of the understanding that my statement would be included originally, but Ty said he wasn't going to include it until after the Hei interview.

It's possible he didn't remember when he talked with Vic about it?

Which is a fair call. But what impact does this have on the defendants? How is this in any way prejudicial? For what reason should such a technical error or stupidity be taken out on the client or the clients cause of action?

"Because him actually defending against the TCPA really hurts our case." -- Mosquitocuck, esq.

 

[Laundui_or_douchette?]

Regarding the Erica affidavit, I would put it more down that they are expecting to have the Faisal and all “supplemented” affidavits struck, and to not worry about including it at this stage.

 

[quickthrowaway]

And I imagine now I'll get a message asking me to "stop talking about it" again. -_- but Freedom for Speech, and all that stuff.

I won't tell you to stop talking about it. But if you think this is all such a big problem you should be talking to Vic and/or Ty. The farms aren't gonna help you settle any of your worries.

 

[EriMin]

Possible? Well yes, anything is possible. Anyways, I've said my peace on the matter so I'm just gonna leave it at that.

 

[Harvey Danger]

The part about missing the e-mail AND getting back to her late stands out to me more. It's just one more on a growing list of sloppy goofs, which, while are going to happen in things this large, seem to be happening more frequently. Missing an e-mail from a potential affiant on it's own is a goof but understandable. I get that in real world how the soup gets made in any industry is usually messy, but this raises eyebrows on just how messy the kitchen is.

Yeah. The sloppiness of the filing is indicative of it being rushed. This feels like a "too busy to handle everything" situation.

Over the last month, Ty has mentioned around 3-4 cases he's been on, plus he's been in court a few days. That alone is enough to fill the 30-odd days he had between the agreements and Aug 31st, before you add in anything else like traveling to cons.

I get the feeling that in a normal case the leeway each side gets to file and re-file, to supplement or correct your pleading, means that these kind of rushed documents don't matter too much. SOP could be to evolve the suit multiple times without anyone throwing a fit. Things like not having Marchi's tweets until yesterday's revised petition are legally fine, as long as they're added before the ruling. So Ty is probably used to that pace and the "extra time" the e-file system grants.

But in this case, we have two groups of autists (KF and LawTwitter) scrutinizing everything, plus a raging one-lunged lawyer who's shown he will jump at any technicality to try and cause trouble. BHBH should have tightened up their game. Not just to look good, but to avoid stupid-yet-proper filings like today's which will muddy the waters of their legal argument.

Like Nick said, you need to keep the judge on point to remind them the proper use of the TCPA, and getting bogged down in a fight over notary fraud (of all the fucking things) is an unforced error.

 

[Imperial Agent]

It's possible he didn't remember when he talked with Vic about it?



"Because him actually defending against the TCPA really hurts our case." -- Mosquitocuck, esq.

A lot of things are possible, but it’s hard to know what is true without more information. It’s times like these that having goodwill is important, and it turns out improperly notarizing docs can have a negative impact on aforementioned goodwill...

 

[BlehFail.451]

I've no idea. I just know that he told Vic that he never received the email, and told me he did. Vic seemed to be of the understanding that my statement would be included originally, but Ty said he wasn't going to include it until after the Hei interview.

I can't ascribe any intentions to those statements.

And really, in the scheme of things, my declaration has zero bearing on the case, and likely wasn't even necessary because they likely would have gotten Faisal's affadavit stricken. That and it wasn't even part of the original filing.

I'm simply becoming worried because first I find out Vic and I got conflicting stories from Ty. And then there's the business with the notarizations. I'm a little closer to this than most of you because he's my friend IRL.

And I imagine now I'll get a message asking me to "stop talking about it" again. -_- but Freedom for Speech, and all that stuff.

Well I can see how you would get that sort of message, because although this is interesting it does just essentially fuel the opposition. Well it is an odd scenario with too many loose ends at this point. Hopefully it was just a miscommunication. As when it comes down to it what he told you is likely true, but it's what he told Vic that is odd. I doubt there was anything untoward going on unless you buy into the long con angle of twitter, but there is still multiple places information is going through so a miscommunication is very possible.

 

[EriMin]

I won't tell you to stop talking about it. But if you think this is all such a big problem you should be talking to Vic and/or Ty. The farms aren't gonna help you settle any of your worries.

Well, Vic knows, as we came to the realization in the conversation we had. And it is 100% not my job to bring that up with Ty. If Vic had a problem with it I'm sure he addressed it.
I was simply adding to the conversation regarding something I personally encountered in regards to the case.

 

[10SorrowfulObject]

Which is a fair call. But what impact does this have on the defendants? How is this in any way prejudicial? For what reason should such a technical error or stupidity be taken out on the client or the clients cause of action?

It's more than just a technical error, but I agree that Ty's alleged notary fraud ought not to notably harm Vic's case. The appropriate remedy would probably be sanctions for Ty (+ whatever disciplinary actions notaries receive for notary fraud), and rejecting the fraudulent affidavits.

Admittedly, I think Vic's case was already dead on the merits, so I'm biased.

 

[ES 195]

But in this case, we have two groups of autists (KF and LawTwitter) scrutinizing everything, plus a raging one-lunged lawyer who's shown he will jump at any technicality to try and cause trouble. BHBH should have tightened up their game. Not just to look good, but to avoid stupid-yet-proper filings like today's which will muddy the waters of their legal argument.

Aside from @EriMin though, no one here or on the threadnaught matters. If this is how Ty normally does things, which I doubt, then it's still fine. Trying to play to an audience is what's been fucking up the KickVic side so I'm perfectly fine with BHBH not doing that.
Hopefully at least after this Ty will be playing it a bit safer, this is definitely not a good look for a guy who cares about integrity.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

It's more than just a technical error, but I agree that Ty's alleged notary fraud ought not to notably harm Vic's case. The appropriate remedy would probably be sanctions for Ty (+ whatever disciplinary actions notaries receive for notary fraud), and rejecting the fraudulent affidavits.

Admittedly, I think Vic's case was already dead on the merits, so I'm biased.

I'm not sure how you can think Vic's case is totally dead on the merits, he arguably has Ron/Monica pretty dead to rights on the TI claim.

 

[Francis York Morgan]

Yeah. The sloppiness of the filing is indicative of it being rushed. This feels like a "too busy to handle everything" situation.

Over the last month, Ty has mentioned around 3-4 cases he's been on, plus he's been in court a few days. That alone is enough to fill the 30-odd days he had between the agreements and Aug 31st, before you add in anything else like traveling to cons.

I get the feeling that in a normal case the leeway each side gets to file and re-file, to supplement or correct your pleading, means that these kind of rushed documents don't matter too much. SOP could be to evolve the suit multiple times without anyone throwing a fit. Things like not having Marchi's tweets until yesterday's revised petition are legally fine, as long as they're added before the ruling. So Ty is probably used to that pace and the "extra time" the e-file system grants.

But in this case, we have two groups of autists (KF and LawTwitter) scrutinizing everything, plus a raging one-lunged lawyer who's shown he will jump at any technicality to try and cause trouble. BHBH should have tightened up their game. Not just to look good, but to avoid stupid-yet-proper filings like today's which will muddy the waters of their legal argument.

Like Nick said, you need to keep the judge on point to remind them the proper use of the TCPA, and getting bogged down in a fight over notary fraud (of all the fucking things) is an unforced error.

More or less my read on the situation as well. Ty seemed stretched thin for the last couple of months with other cases (didn't he say that he didn't expect having to go to court a week ago or so) and, even with having to fend off the additional bits of autism from Akiva and Lemoine's supplemental filings, he and his team would still need to dig through the massive shit heap flung at them from Team MoRon and who-knows-what-all-they've-been-getting with Funimation. This sucks and is almost dangerously reckless given that Ty knows that he's got a lot of lawyers gunning for his head right now, but we'll see what happens with it on Friday.

I don't think this has completely doomed Vic's case but it certainly damages Ty's credibility and integrity.

 

[ObeseScreamingBlackMan]

Fraud - the ultimate boomer moment.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Hopefully at least after this Ty will be playing it a bit safer, this is definitely not a good look for a guy who cares about integrity.

Literally the first time "not a good look for Vic" is applied correctly.

 

[quickthrowaway]

Well, Vic knows, as we came to the realization in the conversation we had. And it is 100% not my job to bring that up with Ty. If Vic had a problem with it I'm sure he addressed it.
I was simply adding to the conversation regarding something I personally encountered in regards to the case.

You mean you told Vic about the notary troubles that people are sperging about? As another poster has mentioned you're just fueling the opposition if you're just posting here instead of telling Vic.

 

[Imperial Agent]

You mean you told Vic about the notary troubles that people are sperging about? As another poster has mentioned you're just fueling the opposition if you're posting here instead of telling Vic.

"Fueling the opposition"? This is not the court room, we're just discussing the case.

People should feel free to share whatever, not just stuff that makes one side look good.

 

[quickthrowaway]

"Fueling the opposition"? This is not the court room, we're just discussing the case.

People should feel free to share whatever, not just stuff that makes one side look good.

You're not discussing anything. You've been running around in circles over the notary stuff for hours. We still have yet to have all relevant info.

I say she's "fueling the opposition" as I agreed with the sentiment of another poster. Obviously this isn't the courtroom, neither is Twitter or Nick's streams. But those all go back to the idea that Vic's rep is being fought for outside of the courtroom as well.

And my main point is that if she is so concerned about the supposed fraud that everyone is sperging about then she should be telling this to Vic, who she has a direct line for and whose livelihood this actually depends on. Like I hope she's feeding the feeders here and telling Vic her worries.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

You're not discussing anything. You've been running around in circles over the notary stuff for hours. We still have yet to have all relevant info.

I say she's "fueling the opposition" as I agreed with the sentiment of another poster. Obviously this isn't the courtroom, neither is Twitter or Nick's streams. But those all go back to the idea that Vic's rep is being fought for outside of the courtroom as well.

And my main point is that if she is so concerned about the supposed fraud that everyone is sperging about then she should be telling this to Vic, who she has a direct line for and whose livelihood this actually depends on. Like I hope she's feeding the feeders here and telling Vic her worries.

We're not here to fight for Vic's rep. We're here to talk about the case. Fuckoff.

 

[EriMin]

You mean you told Vic about the notary troubles that people are sperging about? As another poster has mentioned you're just fueling the opposition if you're posting here instead of telling Vic.

I'm afraid you've misunderstood my post if that's the conclusion you've come to.
I spoke with Vic about the unsworn declaration I made. We then realised that we had received conflicting stories from Ty about its inclusion in the filing.