Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

More likely more than one person working on it were reverting each other's edits and otherwise stepping on each other and so you had a document that was just not coming together at the end. Throw in some more messing around with it to try to make it fit the filing system and possible version control issues, at least that's what it looks like. Then references to stuff that someone probably intended to fill in at the end, but maybe someone else was working on it by the end or maybe the first person just forgot.

Then maybe they decided they needed documents notarized which they didn't actually need to notarize, and someone with a notary commission who never uses it. . .who knows?

Looks like it's a tempest in a teapot but I hope they learn a lesson from it.
At least it happened here, with only ~$5 million on the line and the only thing lost maybe some reputation.

Imagine if similar issues had popped up in a $250 million business merger.
 
  • Feels
  • Thunk-Provoking
Reactions: AnOminous and 774
As much as I'm also impatient for new developments, part of me hopes Judge Chup is like us. "Hm... what will happen... if I give them just a little more rope..."

#2 might be a hard-sell in court, since it's Ty's notary stamp. At least if the court is seriously entertaining Lemwah's conspiracy theories. Kinda moots that point.
Eh not really. If Ty did it remote and thought he was allowed to only to find out later he was not authorized to do so. But the underling still used the Notarized affidavits. Granted just using 10+ years of dealing with Airmen mistakes and playing "What is their excuse going to be" due to them being on a different shift.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Prompt Critical
I don’t even care if Ty fucked up or whatever, I still think it’s exceptional that the defense is willing to scream fraud over a set of documents that were retracted. Lemoine of all people should not be shaking fingers at anyone over attempts to “mislead the court”.

I’ve been that person messing up formatting and certification on big-ass technical PDF’s to my boss’ horror. It’s easy to underestimate how long that bullshit is gonna take, and miscommunications happen, especially when your supervisor has even less of a clue how to work the PDF editor than your sorry intern ass.

Long story short Ty’s a fucking boomer and anyone surprised by this hasn’t been watching his streams. He’s likeable and smart but smart people make mistakes and errors like this happen in courtrooms all over the fucking country every day. It’s his firm, and he’s responsible for the mess but regardless of how big a mess it actually is, it all tends to seem larger when it’s the only thing we have to comment on.
 
I don’t even care if Ty fucked up or whatever, I still think it’s exceptional that the defense is willing to scream fraud over a set of documents that were retracted.

The problem is that it seems that Ty retracted the documents AFTER opposing counsels screamed at him.

It's not looking good.
But even before The Fuhrer screamed at fraud, I found it strange that the 2 most important documents (Slatosh/Hubert testimonies) were dated the last day of the deadline...

It seemed crazy to me to wait until the last day to get such important documents.

Ty seems very nice to me when I see him on Youtube. But I must admit that it is not very bright to brag 30 days before "the judge gave us more time than we were asking for, so we will even argue the constitutionality of the anti-SLAPP", to finish with an unreviewed document, whose main exhibits are suspect and to to top it all off, a delay due to a technical problem.

Before this moment, it was a great week for Vic...
It's already the second time that unreviewed BHBH documents change the dynamic of the events.
 
The problem is that it seems that Ty retracted the documents AFTER opposing counsels screamed at him.

It's not looking good.
But even before The Fuhrer screamed at fraud, I found it strange that the 2 most important documents (Slatosh/Hubert testimonies) were dated the last day of the deadline...

It seemed crazy to me to wait until the last day to get such important documents.

Ty seems very nice to me when I see him on Youtube. But I must admit that it is not very bright to brag 30 days before "the judge gave us more time than we were asking for, so we will even argue the constitutionality of the anti-SLAPP", to finish with an unreviewed document, whose main exhibits are suspect and to to top it all off, a delay due to a technical problem.

Before this moment, it was a great week for Vic...
It's already the second time that unreviewed BHBH documents change the dynamic of the events.
Well at least I'm pretty confident Monica and Ron are fucked. Others I'm no too sure
 
The problem is that it seems that Ty retracted the documents AFTER opposing counsels screamed at him.

It's not looking good.
But even before The Fuhrer screamed at fraud, I found it strange that the 2 most important documents (Slatosh/Hubert testimonies) were dated the last day of the deadline...

It seemed crazy to me to wait until the last day to get such important documents.

Ty seems very nice to me when I see him on Youtube. But I must admit that it is not very bright to brag 30 days before "the judge gave us more time than we were asking for, so we will even argue the constitutionality of the anti-SLAPP", to finish with an unreviewed document, whose main exhibits are suspect and to to top it all off, a delay due to a technical problem.

Before this moment, it was a great week for Vic...
It's already the second time that unreviewed BHBH documents change the dynamic of the events.
Ty did indeed screw up, but it remains to be seen if it will harm the case. I'd be very surprised if it did.
The only thing "suspect" about the affidavits was the notarization, which wasn't even required (unsworn declarations would have sufficed at this point). They were promptly withdrawn and replaced. Lemoine just wants the judge to sanction Ty for something, anything, so he can score points on Twitter.
Yes, the filings were sloppy, and Ty will just have to take that one on the chin. Considering how good he's been up to this point, I'm willing to cut him some slack.
As for the delay, Nick has said more than once that late filings happen all the fucking time, and courts grant leeway for technical difficulties. Lemoine is an idiot for chimping out over the filings being half an hour late.
 
Last edited:
So what I am getting from all of this:
1: The creation of the TCPA response was rushed and sloppy
2: Beard pawned it off to an underling and failed to review it
3: This lead to Notary shenanigans.

Conclusions:
No fraud, as the narrative here is solid that it was a clusterfuck, no damage to Vic's case, no damage to defendant's cases, no likely result from this all.

Well this was a whole lot of to-do about nothing. Beyond a slightly impinged view of Beard's professionalism, this resulted in a fat lot of fuck all.
Ty is the Notary, any notarization mistakes are completely on him and no one else.

The rules are pretty straightforward, so it strains belief he didn’t understand he was acting improperly by notarizing them.

The main relevance this seems to have is how it reflects on Ty and his ethics, and likely that will be the same issue the judge may take from it.

Edit: Still baffled by people who continue to put e-celebs on a pedestal, do y’all never learn?

To those of you think critiquing Ty when he fucks up is “concern trolling”:

He’s still not going to have sex with you.

If you want people to stop talking about said fuck up, stop whiteknighting for a grown as man who represented a false notary to the court. The conversation would have already died out if people weren’t trying to rewrite history for Ty. It wasn’t innocent and it wasn’t lazy.

If you think it doesn’t matter, cool. It’s fine to think it’s no big deal, just don’t try to lie about what happened because you like this particular boomer.
 
Last edited:
It was a dumb move for Ty to notorize those documents. However, the exceptional behavior from the defense in response just seems so desperate. Crying over being 20 min late due to technical issues? Going all in on Ty not being physically there when something is notorized because map quest says it his far and random pictures found online? This is some weak shit to be focusing on the week of a major hearing.
 
To all idiots concern trolling over Ty's mistake: fine he fucked up. However, how the fuck did you miss the tard rage that was Lemoine's recent filing, claiming that Ty tried to fraud the court when occams razor demands that its a simple, innocent mistake?

And if you aren't concern trolling then please take a cold shower, take a nap, and don't drink & post.
 
Now I think there's nothing ordinary about this case at all.

They have an exceptional individual in the person of Führer Limoncello. Marchi's and Funimation's lawyers try to score cheap wins wherever they can in a cost-effective way, but the Führer is going well out of his way to be obnoxious at any cost.

That's what's infuriating about Ty's fumble: it gives him oxygen and it energizes their base. The case should get quiet during TCPA but instead we're gonna get filler arcs with new characters and unrealistic plot lines that bear no relevance to the main story.
 
They have an exceptional individual in the person of Führer Limoncello. Marchi's and Funimation's lawyers try to score cheap wins wherever they can in a cost-effective way, but the Führer is going well out of his way to be obnoxious at any cost.

That's what's infuriating about Ty's fumble: it gives him oxygen and it energizes their base. The case should get quiet during TCPA but instead we're gonna get filler arcs with new characters and unrealistic plot lines that bear no relevance to the main story.
its because the anime is getting ahead of the manga, really we should expect filler
 
Kick Vic:
Ron was beating his wives - it's okay, he's a different person now.
A bunch of Funimathion actors were pervertedly mocking the characters of the Dragon Ball - it' s a joke and it's the guilt of those who leaked it.
Chris Sabat organized a casting couch inside Funimation and everyone knew about it - so far you have no proof.
A lot of the defendants' documents can't be read and it's like a madman's bullshit - it's genius, you just don't understand and are biased.

The other side:
The plaintiff's answer to the motion for dismissal was very sloppy - it's so embarrassing.
Ty made a mistake in notarizing the documents, which in fact did not even have to be notarized, and it does not change anything in the case - oh, my God, if it's true, Ty is destroyed, the BHBH has compromised its reputation as never before.

I agree that self-criticism and a healthy dose of pessimism are much better than outright optimism on the verge of dementia.
But I think we need to take a deep breath from time to time. Being realistic and not turning a blind eye to the flaws is good, experiencing panic attacks is much less good.
 
Also interesting to see the amount of KF users that are heavily invested in Vic's side of the case, rather than shitting on everyone. This might be because the other side has been doing a lot more lolcow shit, but it seems a departure from what I see elsewhere on the site.
 
No one here appears to be having a panic attack, unless you are referring to yourself.

Well, the whole previous reaction to the story about notarization was probably an overreaction.

Nothing critical actually happened. Apparently. On September 6th we will know for sure.

Yes, those who had too high opinion about Ty and thought he was very strict and professional, should slightly adjust their assessment.

But. Most likely, Lemoine will not even be able to strip Ty of his notarial license even in the worst-case scenario.

That is, the reason why Ty wasn't ready for this and neglected to look at this aspect, is because in all 20 years of his practice nobody was stupid enough to raise this argument in front of the judge.

Also interesting to see the amount of KF users that are heavily invested in Vic's side of the case, rather than shitting on everyone. This might be because the other side has been doing a lot more lolcow shit, but it seems a departure from what I see elsewhere on the site.

That's also because Vic's case is gonna have a big impact on a lot of things. It's not just a question of what will happen to Vic.
 
Last edited:
Back