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@xtamarlover under what circumstances, in your theology, would it be permissible to engage in sexual relations with:

a) a 10-year-old girl
b) your teenage stepdaughter
c) your adult daughter

Please explain with theological answers. I find your grasp on theology fascinating, and you have definitely brought up some unusual and less-read/understood passages than all the people just talking about turning the other cheek, so I'd like to know.
 
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Fangsofjeff said:
Wait... so you think there's nothing wrong about forcing people to do things they don't want to do if it's not mentioned in the bible? Do you think fondling or kissing someone who's not into you is okay? What about peeping on them in the shower? I don't think those are mentioned in the scriptures.


I'm getting the impression she broke up with you for multiple reasons but she's too tired of dealing with you to elaborate.


A harsh punishment like what, exactly?
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Where did I say if its not mentioned in the bible im ok forcing people to do it? My point is that forcing someone to play a video game, even though that may be wrong to do, its very minor and not horrible. Whereas sexual crime is considered very heinous. The fact that we treat sexual force as far worse than other forcing is an indication that sexuality is something that deserves the utmost respect.

If someone isnt into you but consents, its not assault.

Peeping on your partner is fine if they consent to peeping. My ex girlfriend told me well before while we were happy together that her rule is any break up she is in in her life she will go jo contact and not be their friend that's her policy. I said ok. But i wasnt ok with it. But she did warn me that would happen if we did break up
 
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xtamarlover said:
Where did I say if its not mentioned in the bible im ok forcing people to do it? My point is that forcing someone to play a video game, even though that may be wrong to do, its very minor and not horrible. Whereas sexual crime is considered very heinous. The fact that we treat sexual force as far worse than other forcing is an indication that sexuality is something that deserves the utmost respect.

If someone isnt into you but consents, its not assault.

Peeping on your partner is fine if they consent to peeping. My ex girlfriend told me well before while we were happy together that her rule is any break up she is in in her life she will go jo contact and not be their friend that's her policy. I said ok. But i wasnt ok with it. But she did warn me that would happen if we did break up
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Then you should have talked to her about it. The fact that you didn't want it, but consented anyways, is a direct analogy to your attitude towards sexuality, and is another illustration of your hypocrisy.

chekovia said:
Oh God, is he back to his pedantic tricks?
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Yep. No matter how much he claims to change, he's still the pedantic, weasely, spendthrift, sadistic Spitting Mountain Jew he was at the start.
 
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Abortions4All said:
@xtamarlover under what circumstances, in your theology, would it be permissible to engage in sexual relations with:

a) a 10-year-old girl
b) your teenage stepdaughter
c) your adult daughter

Please explain with theological answers. I find your grasp on theology fascinating, and you have definitely brought up some unusual and less-read/understood passages than all the people just talking about turning the other cheek, so I'd like to know.
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Its ok to marry a 10 year old girl, but its wrong to have sex with her before she is 20. Its ok to marry a step sibling. Its not ok to marry a step daughter. Its ok to marry an adopted daughter but only have sex when shes 20 or older. The issue with a step daughter is its wrong to have sex with someone and their parent or someone. Like its wrong to marry a woman and have sex with her and then after she dies to marry your step daughter from the wife that died, because the step daughter is closely related by blood to someone you had sex with. Likewise its wrong to have sex with someone and to sometime after have sex with their sibling, aunt/uncle, or niece/nephew. But in the case of someone adopted, with no close blood connection to you or any of your partners, i see nothing wrong with adopting/buying a nonrelated daughter and taking her for yourself as a wife if she consents.

Exodus 21 "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.9 And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters."

I interpret this as endorsing adopting someone's daughter and marrying her. But even if not, i still think its ok to marry an adopted daughter thats nonrelated. Because in my view, blood parents will always be the true parents. I do not recognize the validity of adopting children as any true change of parenthood. The true parents will always be the biological, and nothing can change that. So if you adopt someone as your child you may convince yourself they are your child but they are not in any way shape or form. They are merely bought by you. They were sold by the parents or the state to you. But they are not bound to you as the true parents they will always be bound to first and foremost. Thus marrying adopting kids and having dex when they are adults is fine to me since i do acknowledge the legitimacy of adopted children.

Senior Lexmechanic said:
Then you should have talked to her about it. The fact that you didn't want it, but consented anyways, is a direct analogy to your attitude towards sexuality, and is another illustration of your hypocrisy.


Yep. No matter how much he claims to change, he's still the pedantic, weasely, spendthrift, sadistic Spitting Mountain Jew he was at the start.
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I have not done love-spit on any lover since 2010. But its still a possibility for any future relationship. Consent is the name of the game.

Correction: i meant to say: Thus marrying adopting kids and having sex when they are adults is fine to me since i dont acknowledge the legitimacy of adopted children.
 
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xtamarlover said:
There is nothing holy about crucifixion. Thats like saying no one should name their children Jesus or Joshua or Yeshua because the name is too holy. The reality is Jesus became a man, and thus the human things he was subjected to arent somehow holy because he suffered them. We can still use vinegar in our food. And i will relish my vinegar with full knowledge that our lord and savior rejected the vinegar. And i will pound nails into wooden boards too with full knowledge that Jesus died in that way. so what i dont care. I respect his death but the method he died isnt somehow holy cause he died from it. Thats like people who carry around crosses and worship them as if they have power.
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He's completely right about this but everything else he's said has been either autistic or wrong. Legalism is one thing but he's not even getting the legal parts right. It's like Phariseeism was hit on the head and needed a special helmet.

Okay what the fuck is this

xtamarlover said:
I interpret this as endorsing adopting someone's daughter and marrying her. But even if not, i still think its ok to marry an adopted daughter thats nonrelated. Because in my view, blood parents will always be the true parents. I do not recognize the validity of adopting children as any true change of parenthood. The true parents will always be the biological, and nothing can change that. So if you adopt someone as your child you may convince yourself they are your child but they are not in any way shape or form. They are merely bought by you. They were sold by the parents or the state to you. But they are not bound to you as the true parents they will always be bound to first and foremost. Thus marrying adopting kids and having dex when they are adults is fine to me since i do acknowledge the legitimacy of adopted children.
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:chicken::chicken::chicken:

ETA: Dude are you having a seizure or a breakdown
 
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xtamarlover said:
I have not done love-spit on any lover since 2010. But its still a possibility for any future relationship. Consent is the name of the game.
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Not according to the Mosiac law you so love it isn't. Onanism is a serious sin, rape is only a crime if either of you are married, and homosex is a sin worthy of death. You contradict yourself more often than a confabulating drunk.
 
xtamarlover said:
Its ok to marry a 10 year old girl, but its wrong to have sex with her before she is 20. Its ok to marry a step sibling. Its not ok to marry a step daughter. Its ok to marry an adopted daughter but only have sex when shes 20 or older. The issue with a step daughter is its wrong to have sex with someone and their parent or someone. Like its wrong to marry a woman and have sex with her and then after she dies to marry your step daughter from the wife that died, because the step daughter is closely related by blood to someone you had sex with. Likewise its wrong to have sex with someone and to sometime after have sex with their sibling, aunt/uncle, or niece/nephew. But in the case of someone adopted, with no close blood connection to you or any of your partners, i see nothing wrong with adopting/buying a nonrelated daughter and taking her for yourself as a wife if she consents.

Exodus 21 "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.9 And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters."

I interpret this as endorsing adopting someone's daughter and marrying her. But even if not, i still think its ok to marry an adopted daughter thats nonrelated. Because in my view, blood parents will always be the true parents. I do not recognize the validity of adopting children as any true change of parenthood. The true parents will always be the biological, and nothing can change that. So if you adopt someone as your child you may convince yourself they are your child but they are not in any way shape or form. They are merely bought by you. They were sold by the parents or the state to you. But they are not bound to you as the true parents they will always be bound to first and foremost. Thus marrying adopting kids and having dex when they are adults is fine to me since i do acknowledge the legitimacy of adopted children.
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Misreading the Bible is a hell of a drug...

Jesus's sacrifice got rid of the old covenant, you fool.
 
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chekovia said:
Misreading the Bible is a hell of a drug
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I would almost swear he’s correctly reading Connor Bible, who was also violently opposed to adoption because he thought all adoptive parents had shitty and selfish motives.

Come back, Connor. We found the guy you were right about.
 
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In response to webbits question in the melinda thread, i wanted to say that the previous appeal in the lower court took the court 6 whole months to dismiss. The supreme court will probably be similarly just as long. Anywhere from 6 months to a year you can expect nothing to happen probably. Then itll just quietly be dismissed randomly without announcement. I already replied to her shit in the lower court's appeal and i decided not to bother replying to thus one. Cause they arent even going to read what i say so there's no point.
 
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xtamarlover said:
Its ok to marry a 10 year old girl, but its wrong to have sex with her before she is 20. Its ok to marry a step sibling. Its not ok to marry a step daughter. Its ok to marry an adopted daughter but only have sex when shes 20 or older.
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Why should 20 years old be the legal age?
Like its wrong to marry a woman and have sex with her and then after she dies to marry your step daughter from the wife that died, because the step daughter is closely related by blood to someone you had sex with. Likewise its wrong to have sex with someone and to sometime after have sex with their sibling, aunt/uncle, or niece/nephew.
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Having sex with your dead spouse's sibling was considered ok in the bible though.

Deuteronomy 25:5:
“If two brothers are living together on the same property and one of them dies without a son, his widow may not be married to anyone from outside the family. Instead, her husband’s brother should marry her and have intercourse with her to fulfill the duties of a brother-in-law."

xtamarlover said:
I have not done love-spit on any lover since 2010. But its still a possibility for any future relationship. Consent is the name of the game.
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So what was the sex with your latest girlfriend like?
 
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Fangsofjeff said:
Why should 20 years old be the legal age?

Having sex with your dead spouse's sibling was considered ok in the bible though.

Deuteronomy 25:5:
“If two brothers are living together on the same property and one of them dies without a son, his widow may not be married to anyone from outside the family. Instead, her husband’s brother should marry her and have intercourse with her to fulfill the duties of a brother-in-law."


So what was the sex with your latest girlfriend like?
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20 years is what the bible says is the age of an adult. Also the Dead Sea Scrolls which i accept as Scripture says 20 years is the age when you can start having sex. But also it to me makes sense to have it at 20 cause 18 you still seem like a child. And if you are going to argue for 18, why not 17? Why not 16? Why not 15? Why not 14? The age variance is very arbitrary it seems cause some states allow kids to get married and have sex 16, 15, and 14, if they have parents permission to get married. Thats really illogical. Its statutory rape unless your parents say you can marry the person then its magically not illegal? Yet thay is how the law works in many states of the US. So either sex is ok when someone reaches fertility from puberty, or, when they are an adult. And if the US says 18 is still too young to drink how can they be old enough to have sex its so illogical. But 20 seems a great age for people being deemed as becoming adults. And let people drink with parental oversight when they are 5 or older imo lol.

The bible uses the word brother in a broader sense sometimes like as meaning relative. So in my view marrying your dead brothers wife is wrong. But if a man dies, his closest nonincestual male relative should marry her. Like a first cousin is good in my view as i dont consider that to be incest.

My ex and I never had sex. She's a virgin and I didnt want to take that from her unless we were ready and after we moved in together. We never did move in together. We made out plenty, and did lots of dry humping, and that gave me total satisfaction, so I'm not complaining. I'm glad we didnt have sex because she deserves to give her virginity only to someone that is right for her. In a way you could call the dry humping a form of sex I guess since I orgasmed over 100 times from our sessions, but we never saw each others genitals, nor did we ever touch each others genitals so its not actual sex. But we were both topless many times together that was nice I enjoyed the caresses and got to touch everything else besides her genitals. She never got orgasms from the dry humping though unfortunately. So it was kind of one sided. But kind of hard to make someone orgasm if you cant touch them and they dont know how to pleasure themselves properly by their own humping.
 
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xtamarlover said:
I was asked if she engaged in the humping. She engaged with me every time, but not always in the humping stuff. She always engaged with making out with me and gesturing me to touch her body and embracing and trying to turn me on.
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So when she wasn’t reciprocating the humping, what precisely was she doing, if not just laying there?
 
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So when she wasn’t reciprocating the humping, what precisely was she doing, if not just laying there?
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Usually kissing me on the mouth. There was a couple times I had her face down and humped her, but she told me she didn't like doing that because she felt like she was just laying there and didnt want to do that. So i complied with her wishes and didnt do that anymore to her facedown just lying there. I think there was only one time after she told me she wasnt interested that i asked if we could do it please even though i know you dont like it can we do it this one time please. She said ok.
 
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